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Sooooo all the respected guru's out there, please help me!
There are so many flavours to choose from!
Which ROM is the most complete, stable? I installed the Vanilla ROM. Looks nice. I miss a good messenger though..
Are there any upcoming complete ROMS?
And what about the second camera at the front of the phone? Is it usable as a webcam for a messenger?
Thanksss
dmxl said:
Sooooo all the respected guru's out there, please help me!
There are so many flavours to choose from!
Which ROM is the most complete, stable? I installed the Vanilla ROM. Looks nice. I miss a good messenger though..
Are there any upcoming complete ROMS?
And what about the second camera at the front of the phone? Is it usable as a webcam for a messenger?
Thanksss
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Are you talking about WM6 rom stability? If so these are still BETA versions with all of us as the testers (version 02 is still only a few hours old).
I can't test these because my phone's broken, but reading the threads for both Kyphurs and Vanilla rom they appear to be mostly stable and faster, but have some known issues - most of these are listed in the first couple of posts in the release threads (or burried in the discussions).
The only way to test if they are stable for you is to load them and the relevant fixes to known issues - then report back to the rest of the forum with any new problems to help make the next release better. Have fun...
Heh.. If you want stable, wait for your carrier to present you with the ROM..
Everything on this site is "take it with a grain of salt"
Granted, I loaded XDA v0.1 and then XDA v0.2 and aside from a few items, they seem to both work very well.
As with any "testing" you may have issues, and/or brick your unit.. there is always a chance..
GL and hopefully you have fun testing out Windows Mobile 6 on your phone.
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the [ROM] kitchen!
Just kidding, but not really.
richy240 said:
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the [ROM] kitchen!
Just kidding, but not really.
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I agree.
dmxl said:
And what about the second camera at the front of the phone? Is it usable as a webcam for a messenger?
Thanksss
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You could use coolcamera.........it works as a streaming USB webcam. I opened a thread on this a while back take a look?
Thanks for the replies all of you.
I have two HTC Hermes pda's. One is kind of bricked. The other one is superCID. Is there a benefit of flashing the device with the AKU 2.06 Cingular ROM, compaired to the available HTC ROM's?
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Thanks for the replies all of you.
I have two HTC Hermes pda's. One is kind of bricked. The other one is superCID. Is there a benefit of flashing the device with the AKU 2.06 Cingular ROM, compaired to the available HTC ROM's?
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If you want WM5 and are on Cingular, then use the AKU 3.3 leaked Cingular ROM.
If you want WM6 then the choices are a plenty.
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If you want WM5 and are on Cingular, then use the AKU 3.3 leaked Cingular ROM.
If you want WM6 then the choices are a plenty.
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Wpbear, thanks. I'm not on Cingular, I have an original HTC, but my device is superCID though.
Ofcourse I would like the latest WM6. But how stable is it? Should I try the the LVSW version?
Thanks!
dmxl said:
Wpbear, thanks. I'm not on Cingular, I have an original HTC, but my device is superCID though.
Ofcourse I would like the latest WM6. But how stable is it? Should I try the the LVSW version?
Thanks!
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Spending a 5 minutes reading the LVSW thread will give you a very good idea how stable it is. Runs fine on mine
dmxl said:
Wpbear, thanks. I'm not on Cingular, I have an original HTC, but my device is superCID though.
Ofcourse I would like the latest WM6. But how stable is it? Should I try the the LVSW version?
Thanks!
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They are all about the same, quirky just like all Hermes ROM's.
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They are all about the same, quirky just like all Hermes ROM's.
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compaired to:
Wam7 said:
Spending a 5 minutes reading the LVSW thread will give you a very good idea how stable it is. Runs fine on mine
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Comparing the above statement of Wpbear with Wam7's, does not clarify things for me in 1 minute reading here.
Is it possible and wise if I wish to stay with WM5 for a while, to upgrade my superCID HTC device with the Cingular AKU 3.3 ROM, since there isn't a shipped AKU 3.3 ROM from HTC?
If I choose for WM6, do I choose the LVSW or XDA Live 0.20 edition?
And which Extended ROM suits best with either one?
Thanks.
dmxl said:
Comparing the above statement of Wpbear with Wam7's, does not clarify things for me in 1 minute reading here.
Thanks.
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You see, that 1 minute reading is part of the problem. Just spending a few more minutes skimming through the relevant threads will indicate whether a particular ROM is for you. If you do not have the time or inclination to try them yourselves that is the least you can do.
There is no contradiction between mine and Wpbear's statement. On one hand I read through the LSVW Rom thread and quickly came to the conclusion that I would try it and so far I have no problems... I did have a low memory problem with the XDA .20 which was easily solved with a reg fix.
Wpbear is saying all the ROMS have different quirks; what one person has a problem with somebody else will say it runs fine... quirks.
There is a tacit feeling that too many people expect easy answers and to be spoon fed without putting in a little leg work themselves.
best of both worlds!!
I installed lvsw rom, updated radio to 1.34, next i had taken an spb backup of an previously installed xda live 0.20 and restored it on top of the lvsw rom, reinstalled a couple proggies, deleted an invalid startup, and voila! The most stable rom and os i ever experienced on a ppc. All done yesterday, and not one time did i have to soft reset behind instability! how did i learn how to do this? all i did was let the forum talk, and i read!
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I installed lvsw rom, updated radio to 1.34, next i had taken an spb backup of an previously installed xda live 0.20 and restored it on top of the lvsw rom, reinstalled a couple proggies, deleted an invalid startup, and voila! The most stable rom and os i ever experienced on a ppc. All done yesterday, and not one time did i have to soft reset behind instability! how did i learn how to do this? all i did was let the forum talk, and i read!
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May ask what was the "invalid start up" you deleted?
I think the best thing to do is flash ROMs to the phone and try them... eventually settling on the one you like best... why you need people to tell you what to put on your device is beyond me.
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You see, that 1 minute reading is part of the problem.
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I said I spent 1 minute reading here, I did not say I didn't read other threads. Maybe I should have indicated cleary here that I read through most threads about the new ROM's, so people would not make hasty conclusions.
Wpbear is saying all the ROMS have different quirks; what one person has a problem with somebody else will say it runs fine... quirks.
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Wpbear is not saying that all ROM's have different problems, but all ROM's are the same, quircky, like all HTC ROM's.
So when you tell me "what one person has a problem with, somebody else will say it runs fine", You can not understand why things remain unclear to me? I mean, the people trying out these ROMS are all using a HTC Hermes like me. So it would be a big guess, I could have problems, or I could not.
There is a tacit feeling that too many people expect easy answers and to be spoon fed without putting in a little leg work themselves.
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I'm sure there are people like that.
Princeasi: thanks for your reply.
Olipro: Ok you're basicly saying when I read this forum, and things are unclear to me what ROM to use, that because this is not unclear to you or others, I should shut up and not ask questions?
no, I think you should just try the ROMs yourself; flash Hard-SPL if you're worried about buggering your phone up, and then start plopping ROMs onto your device.
Reading the respective threads of the ROMs you try is generally a good idea since what's contained in them is listed in a far greater detail than anybody will go to the effort of writing here.
Might I add, that which ROM you use is a matter of personal taste, therefore there is no "right" or "wrong" ROM to use; therefore, how you can say "things are unclear to me what ROM to use" makes no sense.
at best you're too lazy to trawl the threads to look up the information yourself; as I said earlier, the respective ROM threads will tell you far more substantial information if you can make the effort to actually read through it... failing that, flash it to your phone.
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no, I think you should just try the ROMs yourself; flash Hard-SPL if you're worried about buggering your phone up, and then start plopping ROMs onto your device.
Reading the respective threads of the ROMs you try is generally a good idea since what's contained in them is listed in a far greater detail than anybody will go to the effort of writing here.
Might I add, that which ROM you use is a matter of personal taste, therefore there is no "right" or "wrong" ROM to use; therefore, how you can say "things are unclear to me what ROM to use" makes no sense.
at best you're too lazy to trawl the threads to look up the information yourself; as I said earlier, the respective ROM threads will tell you far more substantial information if you can make the effort to actually read through it... failing that, flash it to your phone.
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Asking which ROM to use does make sense, since I asked in my first post: Which is most COMPLETE and STABLE. I then mean, compared to original ones. You get it? In the first post I'm not asking about my PERSONAL ROM taste, but the most COMPLETE and STABLE. Since I'm not lazy, and read all the threads, I did not become wiser about which is the most stable one. Besides this, even Wpbear is saying: "what one person has a problem with, somebody else will say it runs fine". You might concider it to be a possibility that for one person reading all the threads makes him less wiser then some other person reading the threads. This doesn't right away mean he's lazy, does it?
All the threads are about ROM's for someone running fine and some other running awful. So no, I do not think my question is stupid, or out of lazyness.
well... I'm afraid to say that "COMPLETE and STABLE" is something that is rather subjective since unless a ROM is totally broken, it's generally not that easy to work out how much more "COMPLETE" or how much more "STABLE" it is.
also, in terms of how "COMPLETE" it is, you can easily work that out by checking what's bundled into the app.
so really, I fall back to my original point that you should try the ROMs for yourself.
Peeps - There in an Official Kitchen.... It has been released by the FINE folks over at
http://www.ppckitchen.org/
Please check it out....
Thx to all those responsible for this release.... You are very exceptionally talented people to whom we owe a debt a gratitude too.....
What are the advantages/disadvantages of using this kitchen over DCDs 3.0.1?
Isnt this an Apache kitchen?
Looks like the apache kitchen. Which reminds me how slow that PPC used to be. Then last night, I was playing around with the Touch. No keyboard was horrible, but it was so much faster. Didn't suffer from memory problems. If only the Mogul had 128 MB ram...
Titan compatible or NOT?
azclown said:
Peeps - There in an Official Kitchen.... It has been released by the FINE folks over at
http://www.ppckitchen.org/
Please check it out....
Thx to all those responsible for this release.... You are very exceptionally talented people to whom we owe a debt a gratitude too.....
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Ok, have you used this to build a rom for the titan? it only builds for apache, one good thing though, I'm able to get updated and new oem's which I'm able to use in DCD's kitchen.
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Ok, have you used this to build a rom for the titan? it only builds for apache, one good thing though, I'm able to get updated and new oem's which I'm able to use in DCD's kitchen.
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I have been following this it is supposed to eventually be a universal kitchen for multipple devices, checking it out tonight perhaps they have included the titan now.
Yup, looking at their main page they are thanking No2Chem for the titan kitchen, looking to see if I can find it now, perhaps DCD will be releasing his a compatible version of his kitchen, he and No2Chem seem pretty tight.
EDIT: Not quite ready for Titan yet here is a chat transcript from their chatroom>
<jjlwork> I noticed you are thanking no2chem for the titan kitchen, but i do not see anywhere to d/l throguh the updater, am I missing something?
<naigaman> jjlwork we are working on releasing that soon
So stay tuned!
It looks like a pretty intuitive kitchen, I hope we can get it released for the Titan, but until then DCD all the way.
If you read the full article HERE, You can see the dropdown box for what device your cooking for - I'm assuming there's a Titan device available, as dcd is listed in the credits aswell. In anycase I can't wait to try it tonight when I get home!
Jaquers said:
If you read the full article HERE, You can see the dropdown box for what device your cooking for - I'm assuming there's a Titan device available, as dcd is listed in the credits aswell. In anycase I can't wait to try it tonight when I get home!
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Don't waste your time, titan is not an option yet.
Damm, finally got back to my PC after the updater finished and alas....... IT IS NOT FOR THE TITAN.... When I read the read more section, down at the bottom I saw it say No2Chem for Titan Kitchen and bout pissed myself... SORRY to everyone who got too excited by my overzelous post........
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Don't waste your time, titan is not an option yet.
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Damn, that sucks. I went and got all excited... Really the only functionality I want from that is the ability to change the boot & splash screens.
Just recently coming from the 6700/Apache camp I can tell you how much I MISS the Apache kitchen. It was nothing short of a ROM addicts dream...
I got kind of spoiled using the kitchen and the Apache. Yeah, the 6700 was a somewhat limited device compared to the 6800 but it's the Kitchen that really made it compelling and seriously, probably kept it going for so long (and still going...)
Hopefully the Mogul development will eventually get there, but for now you can always dream....
i actually just spoke with gguruUSA and he said that the noChem's titan kitchen has been implemented, but the only delay is with the release of the new official rom, so they're working to make everything compatible. So, hopefully soon we'll be cooking roms apache style.
Jaquers said:
i actually just spoke with gguruUSA and he said that the noChem's titan kitchen has been implemented, but the only delay is with the release of the new official rom, so they're working to make everything compatible. So, hopefully soon we'll be cooking roms apache style.
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I don't know if anyone cares, but it seems there is now a version for the Titan.
juneau_shublik said:
I don't know if anyone cares, but it seems there is now a version for the Titan.
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It's No2chem 5060 (very nice), updated PPCGeeks_OEM.rar, and updated Shareware_OEM.rar.
This is not intended to be mean to the ap team but i am posting this because i feel they should of been honest to us from the beginning and just said we can't release yet. My reasons for feeling this way are listed below
1. About 1 month after pk3 dual was released, pawel and the rest of the team changed their signature to rom: top secret and it had been like that even after hdubli posted a ported copy of wm6.1.... why did'nt pawel post a wm6.1 rom when he changed rom to top secret?
2. the team keeps saying stuff like we have a BT bug or screen problems and i realize that there are some updates on the ati driver and stuff but the BT stack that is on the wm6.1 that hdubli released works great. i can use a BT mouse and a BT keyboard, and BT headphone all at the same time and it works great. I can provide a vid if there are doubts
3. Most is importantly even BoyGeniusReport says http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/03/28/htcs-manilla-gets-screenshotted/ this rom is from the x7510. something i said on the "Athena Project 4.0 coming, but needs...." post 228 but pawel denied this is post 229
in conclusion everyone should stop looking for the release of this rom and start looking for the release of the x7510 cause then and only then will this rom be released. I am only posting this so people can have a realistic outlook on the rom and can stop being dissapointed everyday in the hope it will be released. I did not post this to come down on the team i just feel like there is so much tension on this fourm and i wanted to make my thoughts known.
High Five
Hypothetically speaking...
... Even if this were the case, why would you want him to release pre-release software that could get him in trouble or again, hypothetically, his *source* in trouble? People get fired for leaking stuff, sometimes worse. Personally, I don't need to know where this stuff comes from.
How about we let him work on things and hey, at least there's a better chance that he'll be able to bring us more HTC gems for a possible v5.0.
ok dude the rom is a 7510 rom but no way do i have to wait for it to be released. there still isn't a solid release date. the rom i could give u right now but it needs to properly be tested and bugs be fixed. we release with bugs, u guys complain, we look bad. i can take complaining before the rom then praises when it comes out.
also we have had 6.1 for a while. something like november i got the first athena 6.1 rom with build 19145 if im not mistaken. we have had 6.1 even before that though.
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... Even if this were the case, why would you want him to release pre-release software that could get him in trouble or again, hypothetically, his *source* in trouble? People get fired for leaking stuff, sometimes worse. Personally, I don't need to know where this stuff comes from.
How about we let him work on things and hey, at least there's a better chance that he'll be able to bring us more HTC gems for a possible v5.0.
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1st i never said once that he should release it. what is said was he should tell us he cant release it. i don't remember anywhere in my post and any post for that matter where i said "you should release it right now even if it will get you into trouble or even if its not ready"
On a side note - i also live in orlando, fl and goto ucf do you play halo?
Go Knights!
irus said:
1st i never said once that he should release it. what is said was he should tell us he cant release it. i don't remember anywhere in my post and any post for that matter where i said "you should release it right now even if it will get you into trouble or even if its not ready"
On a side note - i also live in orlando, fl and goto ucf do you play halo?
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No kidding - I'm planning on getting back to school this fall myself. Live right around the corner from the Uni. No Halo, since my box was red-lighting again just before my damn cat knocked a cup of water over onto the PSU for it. So i've got a little bit of work to get my box working again... oh yeah and I was banned from Live just before all that too (modded firmware), so yeah I did play halo. Meh
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also we have had 6.1 for a while. something like november i got the first athena 6.1 rom with build 19145 if im not mistaken. we have had 6.1 even before that though.
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but that is my main point for saying that you can't release it yet. you had wm6.1 since november but released a cooked wm6 rom in late november. Don't get me wrong i am grateful for everything you have done and the only point i am trying to make is that you have to wait to release. I have logical points for these thoughts. example: in "Stop the stupid ap 4.0" post 36 - you told someone you have 2 newer builds than 9.5 build 405 but you can't release it.
Look im not trying to get into a pissing match with you, and nothing productive will come out of us arguing back and forth. So if you say it's still buggy and you need more time to test than its buggy and needs more time to test. i will not say another word about it.
High Five
PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
tomary said:
i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
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oooouch, i think that might be a little harsh. You forget they have already posted 3 roms so i think the people who have donated got their moneys worth
My first thought for the team is if you WANT to release, then there's nothing wrong with realeasing a beta--paid software makers do it all the time. Here is a beta with known bugs. Da-ta-da-tada. There's likely unknown bugs too--user beware. That's why its beta. Heck, while its not as optimal,some companies (cough, cough, microsoft,) can release betas as the real deal.
For free (please donations accepted look at the value) roms/software, the bar shouldn't be higher than that of the commercial stuff.
It's funny how this just suddenly went down hill with all the slandering etc etc... I appreciate the time EVERYONE on the AP Team took to make what was (and most of us if not ALL enjoyed it) and what is to be. I personally donated as a sign of gratitude and saying thank you, heck I would've donated if they had even asked for some sort of donation just to teach how they did it instead of releasing a new ROM. Some of you guys are just down right ungreatful and quickly forget all the hard work and time they Team puts in to stand behind their wonderful ROMS. And lets not forget the tons of apps they cook in the ROMS too. So what's the big deal if people want to donate I did it and I'll be doing it again in the near future.
If the team DOES NOT want to release. That is the team's perogative also. This seeming to hang forever on the edge of release is a little nerve wracking and is hard on the fan base,but so what? If we, the fan base, donate less--really--donations are piddly anyway. The team needs to do what they do for the fun of it and the satisfaction of it.
I think it's about time this ROM was released, bugs'n all. Just release as a Beta.
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but that is my main point for saying that you can't release it yet. you had wm6.1 since november but released a cooked wm6 rom in late november. Don't get me wrong i am grateful for everything you have done and the only point i am trying to make is that you have to wait to release. I have logical points for these thoughts. example: in "Stop the stupid ap 4.0" post 36 - you told someone you have 2 newer builds than 9.5 build 405 but you can't release it.
Look im not trying to get into a pissing match with you, and nothing productive will come out of us arguing back and forth. So if you say it's still buggy and you need more time to test than its buggy and needs more time to test. i will not say another word about it.
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thanx just dont like people saying i cant release this until the 7510 is out. i released snapvue before the shift was out and that was ok. i'll also release this new rom before the 7510 is out. i'll also be able to provide details when the 7510 is out and about what the price should be.
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PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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thats why if i cant get it to my liking by friday it will be released as a beta. the 19181 build was just to unstable. it got un usable after a while. u really wanted me to release that? we tried to make it better and got it to about 80% of what it should be but then decided to go for the new 19202 because we got the ok for that. by friday there will be a rom. if all goes well before that u might have a non beta build.
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i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
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you are really getting out of hand. u donate if u like. i provided 4 roms to everyone already. people wanted a vanilla so im making a vanilla. i guess u can't make everyone happy.
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thats why if i cant get it to my liking by friday it will be released as a beta. the 19181 build was just to unstable. it got un usable after a while. u really wanted me to release that? we tried to make it better and got it to about 80% of what it should be but then decided to go for the new 19202 because we got the ok for that. by friday there will be a rom. if all goes well before that u might have a non beta build.
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If you don't mind I don't like getting my hopes up (again). So I'll put it on my calendar for Friday. I'm not hoping for it to be released before that (or maybe I am but trying not to). Dare I say it...? You're not going to disappoint us are you?
And please note. I greatly appreciate your hard work. That’s why I donated! But checking every day to find out that it’s not released it getting a bit tedious . Considering it has been hanging close to being released for quite some time now.
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it will be 100% out on friday. whether in beta form or final form. it'll most likely be afternoon local time because thats when i'll have time to release. i would like a tuesday release though because would be very funny... dont u agree??
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it will be 100% out on friday. whether in beta form or final form. it'll most likely be afternoon local time because thats when i'll have time to release. i would like a tuesday release though because would be very funny... dont u agree??
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A few questions (if you don't mind, if you do just don't answer ):
Will the beta be usable? (maybe good to know for less experienced people);
What's your timezone?
NB: no not funny at all, as I said: I'm not getting my hopes up again.
Have I missed a memo?
Why is it that the only base ROM's that I can find for the Raphael are 19965 builds?
Seem to be plenty of newer ROM's knocking around as cooked versions, but as the chefs insist on protecting them all the time, they're as good as useless for a part-timer like myself who likes to cook his own personal ROM's.
I never had this problem with any previous devices, so what's gone wrong? Have I upset someone?!
I totally agree...
Want to get my hands on build 2755.0.1.4 and turn it into dutch and tweak the hell out of it!
But first we need a source-rom...
Seconded.
yep a bit strange
all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
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all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
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Is the procedure still the same like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389772
or alternatively I can unpack any 20755 ROM and copy the MSXIPKernel and MSXIPKernelLTK (also the SYS contents) to my base ROM and tweak it to my hearts content?
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Is the procedure still the same like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389772
or alternatively I can unpack any 20755 ROM and copy the MSXIPKernel and MSXIPKernelLTK (also the SYS contents) to my base ROM and tweak it to my hearts content?
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I've also started experimenting with porting. But can we just use any wm6.1 rom, as long as we keep the device oemkernelXP?
If I replace all 0409 files with 0413 in OEM en SYS will I have a flawless dutch rom? Or do I have to change links, rgu or dsm-files also? That's new for me...
jcespi2005 said:
all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
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Fair enough, I kind of guessed that 20755 was ported, 'cause it seems to be available for all devices.
I'm very surprised that after two months, there's still no native build newer than the original 19965. What are HTC up to!?
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Fair enough, I kind of guessed that 20755 was ported, 'cause it seems to be available for all devices.
I'm very surprised that after two months, there's still no native build newer than the original 19965. What are HTC up to!?
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19971 is the latest officially released build, check the wiki for the shipped ROMs we have available.
For 2 days I'm trying to find a 20755 based rom to port sys and xip from, but all the ones I find are protected...
Anybody found one? please link me to it..
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19971 is the latest officially released build, check the wiki for the shipped ROMs we have available.
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Cheers, I forgot about that one. Saw it in the Wiki a while back, and I flashed it briefly, but I've always struggled to customise Cingular ROM's in the past because of the amount of time it takes to get rid of every last little bit of their "tweaking". So I ignored it - partly because I assumed the slightly increased build number was only to do with the Cingular customisations.
I'll just have to wait until something new comes along from HTC.
I used to love the convenience of picking up an "almost perfect" cooked ROM to tweak for my own use, but it seems that chefs don't want us to do that these days. Thats their choice I suppose - BUT (and I'll get crucified for this!) it smacks of double standards when the "real" hard work was pinched from Microsoft/HTC in the first place.
I'm not trying to start an argument by the way! I just really wish that I could actually benefit from the various chefs' hard work, rather than having to do everything from scratch because of the restrictions they impose...
Only one chef that I know of (may have been kyphur?) still releases unprotected ROM's - maybe I just need to buy him a Touch Pro!?!
Here is what a collaegue chef has said:
"I'm not a big fan of people out there that protect "their" rom, which I think goes against the principle of forums and communities. Therefore I'm not protecting it against unpacking so that anyone can learn and share their knowledge. Of course, if you appreciate my work and want to buy me a drink, donation is welcome"
Thanks Spocky!!!
That's what it is all about indeed! But alot of cooks' egos are getting to big. Do not get me wrong, I really appreciate their efforts but by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it... And I think XDA is a place where we should learn from each other!
merten3000 said:
Here is what a collaegue chef has said:
"I'm not a big fan of people out there that protect "their" rom, which I think goes against the principle of forums and communities. Therefore I'm not protecting it against unpacking so that anyone can learn and share their knowledge. Of course, if you appreciate my work and want to buy me a drink, donation is welcome"
Thanks Spocky!!!
That's what it is all about indeed! But alot of cooks' egos are getting to big. Do not get me wrong, I really appreciate their efforts but by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it... And I think XDA is a place where we should learn from each other!
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What you will find is that in the process of tweaking the ROMs the dsm and rgu files are removed as they represent around 200 files which sit in \Windows doing nothing. The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is. Just happens that a side effect of this technique is that the dsm and rgu files are not present to allow a reconstruction of the ROM back into package form. Theres nothing wrong with ASKING for help when you require it about cooking etc...
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What you will find is that in the process of tweaking the ROMs the dsm and rgu files are removed as they represent around 200 files which sit in \Windows doing nothing. The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is. Just happens that a side effect of this technique is that the dsm and rgu files are not present to allow a reconstruction of the ROM back into package form. Theres nothing wrong with ASKING for help when you require it about cooking etc...
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
There are no any official ROMs for any device with build higher than 19971.
All these 20xxx ROMs can be simple fake - old builds with patched version number.
There is no any serious evidence that all these 20xxx builds are real. Only "trustful" words from some "elite" cookers
So, you may trust or not trust. I'm personally, don't trust any build if there is no any official (at least official beta) ROMs with such build. There are so many 100% fake builds are floating around.
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
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1) the tool used to compress the dsms into one single package (thus MANY rgu and dsm file compressed into a single dsm file) generates this string, by default it is "BETA go cook your own ROM" or something to that effect but a simple hex editor can change it to something nicer such as "dsms compressed, sorry".
2) These builds (regardless of what people will claim) are genuine and the tool to edit the version numbers (which are encrypted afaik) is VERY rare, too much hassle than its worth to edit ALL the version numbers it would take AGES. They may not have been released on the devices officially but none-the-less they are out there and they are genuine WM6.1 builds. Each to thier own, but the newer builds DO have some serious improvments over the stock releases on the raphael.
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
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I had asked your second question myself for a while and then I discover that many websites (in chinese though) such as xbeta.cn or 5dpda, they have the latest builds (many maybe fake) floating around. You can get one of them there. Or you can go to the Nike sub-forum, I find they have a nice storage of the most recent builds (such as 20748 to 20755), which are ported to NIke, you can re-port them using the same technique. My advice is to do a quick search of the whole forum, not just your device's, every one a while to check the newest build. Hope this help.
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There are no any official ROMs for any device with build higher than 19971.
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not true. there are genuine samsung i900/i908 ROMs containing 20270.1.3.1 and 20721.1.4.0 (and others). however I have not seen any genuine ROM containing 20748+.
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The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is.
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no offense sir, but i have never bought into this one.
it has been shown that using filemanager to scroll in the \windows folder is more sluggish with more files. many people have begun using this excuse as a reason for removing dsm and rgu files. however, i have seen no evidence to say that the device is more sluggish in general when more files exist in \windows. (and i have tested myself)
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alot of cooks' egos are getting to big....by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it.
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i mean no offense here either, but this statement is unfair. chefs can do whatever they please, and users have no right to be upset about their decisions.
(going way off on a tangent here...)
i agree that this community is based on sharing and intentionally making the process harder for another person is counterproductive. however, expecting every experienced chef to cater to every end user's desire to learn the process is the opposite extreme. taking up experienced chef's time to do nothing but train inexperienced chefs would also be counterproductive. in example, i generally do not answer questions on here after the answer has already been made readily available. if you have a legitimate question that you made an honest effort to answer on your own and were unable to, i would be glad to help, and so would most chefs.
i didnt learn how to customize a ROM by dumping other people's custom ROMs. i spent a year searching and reading forums to no end. the information i searched for and read hasnt gone anywhere, and its not my responsibility to nicely organize and summarize it for the next guy. you cant call out chefs because they arent making it easier for you than it was for them.
that said, i don't protect my ROMs.
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no offense sir, but i have never bought into this one.
it has been shown that using filemanager to scroll in the \windows folder is more sluggish with more files. many people have begun using this excuse as a reason for removing dsm and rgu files. however, i have seen no evidence to say that the device is more sluggish in general when more files exist in \windows. (and i have tested myself)
i mean no offense here either, but this statement is unfair. chefs can do whatever they please, and users have no right to be upset about their decisions. i didnt learn how to customize a ROM by dumping other people's custom ROMs. i spent a year searching and reading forums to no end. the information i searched for and read hasnt gone anywhere, and its not my responsibility to nicely organize and summarize it for the next guy. you cant call out chefs because they arent making it easier for you than it was for them.
that said, i don't protect my ROMs.
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1) which program do they use to compress the dsm's? I want to see if it makes a change...
2) I must agree to you about that they can do what they want, but for the part about making it easier I disagree. If it takes me a long time to figure somthing out I will share that knowledge on fora like this just to save others from putting the same effort into it as I did myself. (dutch expression: don't invent the wheel twice...) That's what the idea is isn't it? In my opinion it's selfish to think: I had too work hard so they will also have to do that (we are not 5 year olds are we?). And of course there will always be people who will 'steal a rom' and act as if they made it themselves, but that will be only a few. The majority would be pleased that they can 'finetune' a great chef's rom to their own needs!
I also searched for a year and read thousands of threads. I also started with shipped ROMS. But now I'm getting the hang of it a little and then it's dissapointing that you are not allowed to for example to port a newer xip/sys, to build your OWN cooked rom, because they do not want to share (not all like MrVanx mentionned). But it is just for argument's sake because I found a source for the 20755.1.4.0 XIP and SYS already. And if I can make somebody happy with those, I will be glad to share...
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1) which program do they use to compress the dsm's? I want to see if it makes a change...
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all_packages_to_one.exe
Included in Raphael Kitchen
Cheers
Hey Guys,
How are you today?
Like all of you can read on the title I need a Chef for cooking my personal ROM for my T-Mobile HD HD2, which at the moment, for me, is the best device and will never die.
My ideas are based on 2 roms, CRACING ROM & NRGZ28 ROM, specifically on CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX and Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Jul.04.
Both of the Chefs, CRACING and NRGZ28, know what I asking for but currently they don't have time to put together my ideas.
Practically my Project is based on CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX ROM and first work is to start change 4 things in this rom, I will be glad to have this rom with Classic Home Tabs, like the stock roms, the Menu/Start on top left corner, like the original 1, background of the small clock on top right corner white and the numbers of the clock black and upgrade some specs ecc. Is not becouse is not good, absolutely, is amazing rom, but I like the rom in different mode. Is just me, nothing is wrong with this roms but I pretend something for me.
Also I want to keep alive this ROMs.
After this 4 changes I will be happy to put into the CRACING rom all the Applications, Tweeks, Lunch Android and Set-ups like or from the Energy ROM, but keeping the full style and full ROM of CRACING, Folders, Themes, almost everything.
Also if we are inside that rom it will be good to upgrade the speed, graphics and ad more progs which I know, for speed and graphics just if is possible.
The most important thing, and I said MOST IMPORTANT, is the BATTERY.
The battery have to stay charge long as he can.
Guys, Chefs, Anybody, I am ignorant in this stuff and I can't do this job, so I will pay for the work if someone EXPERT can do this for me.
Like my Avatar, I need a brain for my machine!
My offer strat from 100 USD to make the small few changes on the CRACING ROM CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX,
and the payment for the work go up if all my request will be made by a Chef to cooking my ROM based on what I already said.
Who is with me?
Please, do not tell me "stick with some rom" or " it can't be done" or any excuses, I know it can be done but just by an expert in this section.
Anyone?
Folks, if my offer is too low just let me know how much it will cost to make my project.
I am serious about this, for someone maybe crazy, but I want do this.
Let me know.
You could try making the rom on your own, its pretty easy to make a rom once you learn the basics. To add all your extras and create a perfect rom that suits you can take some time, especially finding them and checking the battery drain. Since you want something like CRACING's rom use his kitchen and then add the extras you need.
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You could try making the rom on your own, its pretty easy to make a rom once you learn the basics. To add all your extras and create a perfect rom that suits you can take some time, especially finding them and checking the battery drain. Since you want something like CRACING's rom use his kitchen and then add the extras you need.
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I understand, but I really need help from someone who know how do this. I really can't do this by my own, I cry just to understand how I can upgrade my HTC, is not the job for me now and I want a massive ROM soon as is possible. I know we are in the community where nobody sell they roms but I asking for help of experts who can do this work. Is not so easy and I know the hard work of this people so I will pay, for real. If someone don't believe me i will pay in advance 50%.
Someone said, why do you not upgrade with Android? I will, not now, currently I have all what is working well with Windows Mobile 6.5.
Think also about that; I have a BMW M3 and I go to Garage Racing (I can do some work on my engine but everything I can't do by myself) so I asking to performing my engine like I like.
So here we are! Who can do this work?
I could try making it but haven't really made roms for hd2 the only one i made for was my HTC Hermes few years back. I'll download Cracings kitchen and try it if i still remember the stuff let you know tommorow or the day after if i can still cook roms, since i'm busy with school stuff these days. If i can i'll be glad to help you, but no promises yet.
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I could try making it but haven't really made roms for hd2 the only one i made for was my HTC Hermes few years back. I'll download Cracings kitchen and try it if i still remember the stuff let you know tommorow or the day after if i can still cook roms, since i'm busy with school stuff these days. If i can i'll be glad to help you, but no promises yet.
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thanks, I appreciate. I hope you can.
When you try to do some changes on the CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX ROM start with few basic changes which I will like to change, like:
Classic (Original stock) Home Screen Tabs inside the Sense, from Left to Right - all with style of the actual CRASING ROM.
Menu/Start on top left corner, like the stock one. (Original)
Background of the digital clock on top right corner, switch from black to the colour of the theme, should be white, and make the numbers of the clock Black, which right now are white.
We (you) try to do this for the beginning, later we think about the remaining stuffs.
Let me know,
Thanks.
PS: Anyone want help are welcome!!
Ok so last night downloaded two kitchen Cracings and GhostX's and tried them out. CRACINGS was something brand new for me and was a bit confusing but ii tried it out tried adding wm 6.5 build but had issues and not was not sure what to do. The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
Sorry but I think I might give up soon
but if you want something clean and stable with good battery and more than 270mb free with sense try : CleanEX RV Standard v1.02 WM 6.5 CHOOSE STANDARD 1.02 i flash back to it when i feel wp7 is too restricted like right now (*sigh* I'm addicted to flashing roms, I flash a new rom each month sometimes more frequent)
and if you want to make sense look like Cracing's rom: try this GTX THEME 1.8.5 it should work with that rom I think.
i'll try to see if i can get the rom to work if not you can always try my suggestion above and if you need help with somethin let me know
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Ok so last night downloaded two kitchen Cracings and GhostX's and tried them out. CRACINGS was something brand new for me and was a bit confusing but ii tried it out tried adding wm 6.5 build but had issues and not was not sure what to do. The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
Sorry but I think I might give up soon
but if you want something clean and stable with good battery and more than 270mb free with sense try : CleanEX RV Standard v1.02 WM 6.5 CHOOSE STANDARD 1.02 i flash back to it when i feel wp7 is too restricted like right now (*sigh* I'm addicted to flashing roms, I flash a new rom each month sometimes more frequent)
and if you want to make sense look like Cracing's rom: try this GTX THEME 1.8.5 it should work with that rom I think.
i'll try to see if i can get the rom to work if not you can always try my suggestion above and if you need help with somethin let me know
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No man, DON'T GIVE UP!
At the moment you are the only one who try to help me, see this thread, is dead!
if I lose you I will lose any hope.
I spoke to CRACING before open this section and maybe he don't know about this thread but he said he will help if I need too, so contact him and explain which problems you find to change his rom, also send the link of this thread and said I told you to contact him.
You already have the visual of his kitchen so you know what ask.
I try to contact him as well.
I saw the 2 link which you sended to me and is not the same, the ROM CleanEX RV has issue and the Theme GTX is different, is close but different and I will stick with something which is not working properly.
I also agree about WM7, is too restricted.
Let me know.
Cheers.
@Suhaib10
I too was using OSKitchen earlier but later I found it had memory leaks and etc which I don't remember now. OSBuilder is bit complex and takes some time to understand things. If there is a lil mistake, either ROM won't build or device won't boot up. But for professionals, its a great kitchen.
For making easier to people, I have included the kitchen I used to build ROM. If you tried to use it with your kitchen, either it would be osbuilder or etc, you will face major issues.
Wish I could help eclyptos but I no longer have HD2 to test and more busy in life. Not just my house construction (its almost over) but many different things. No time for learning programming languages that helps for develop things on android. :|
And acutully ROM cooking is not that easy. It takes lots of time and research. You will never endup in stable and/or bugfree ROM, even if you do then you will be a master. So becoming a master, Isn't so easy.
eclyptos just doesn't want stuffs in ROM but want to have WM6.1, So its a bit difficult job and things won't workout as expected.
Best of luck, eclyptos.
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eclyptos just doesn't want stuffs in ROM but want to have WM6.1, So its a bit difficult job and things won't workout as expected.
Best of luck, eclyptos.
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I don't know how it is work but should be WM6.1 with Sense, because if you say just WM6.1 somebody get confused because WM6.1 don't have Manilla or Sense or something like that. I hope keep you rom with modify Sense, like the stock ROM (Original One).
Thanks for the Good Luck, I (We) will need that.
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The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
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this is something, I can't understand exactly what you did but something you build, anyway if your HD2 is the EU and you can't test the rom, I can, actually I don't use HD2 becouse is not ready, I use my old Diamond 2.
if I brick the phone you will be not paid, ha ha ha :laugh:
Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
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I kinda forgot most of things now but I think I learn t my self and some help from OSbuilder developers and senior developers. Yes osbuilder is used for wp7 now but works for both. I guess I have seen guides for cooking ROMs using osbuilder but have to search again. If I find any, will let you know.
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AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
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WM6.5 had startmenu on top left? well, I cannot remember well. All I remember now is wm6.1 had startmenu on top and wm6.5 on bottom.
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P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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if you face any troubles, just post it here. even if I don't remember in forehead, they will be present in my back head.
eclyptos said:
this is something, I can't understand exactly what you did but something you build, anyway if your HD2 is the EU and you can't test the rom, I can, actually I don't use HD2 becouse is not ready, I use my old Diamond 2.
if I brick the phone you will be not paid, ha ha ha :laugh:
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Tmous/US HD2 or EU HD2 doesn't matter. my kitchen uses latest kernel and drivers which supports both devices. That also means a single ROM of mine supports both devices.
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I don't know how it is work but should be WM6.1 with Sense, because if you say just WM6.1 somebody get confused because WM6.1 don't have Manilla or Sense or something like that. I hope keep you rom with modify Sense, like the stock ROM (Original One).
Thanks for the Good Luck, I (We) will need that.
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well if you just wanted WM6.1 without sense and/or any htc stuffs, that wasn't a difficult job.
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Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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I don't know which kitchen you looking for but I find this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774430
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don't be confused! I told you, I want CRACING rom but with this few different things. (if possible)
That not mean don't exist ROM like CRASING with Start on top left corner and Classic Home Tabs like in the Stocks ROMs AND also with 4 columns of Quick Links.
CRACING is confused because I told him about the ENERGY ROM (Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Jul.04) which is based on OS version 5.2.21916 (21916.5.0.93) but is Windows Mobile 6.5 Pro, he said is WM 6.1 and i don't know why?
CRACING roms is based on OS 23153 and 29022, maybe this is the difference because all the time when I try to find the roms ONLY 21916 was the rom set-up in the mode like I like.
That's mean probably is WM 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
I hope I clarified.
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well if you just wanted WM6.1 without sense and/or any htc stuffs, that wasn't a difficult job.
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no, I don't want WM 6.1, I told you, we had some misunderstanding, the Energy rom is Windows Mobile 6.5 with Manila 2.5.20212114.0 but is based on different OS version so can't be 6.1 and like I said to Suhaib10 I don't understand why you said so?
All the time when I search for Custom ROM I have to look for the OS version to understand in which mode is made.
Maybe if we do your ROM, all the same, but based on OS 21916 maybe we solve the problem?
I don't know, I just try to figure out what we can do.
Also if I understood right your rom is from desire HD device, right?
or maybe I don't understood nothing, so never mind!
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Maybe if we do your ROM, all the same, but based on OS 21916 maybe we solve the problem?
I don't know, I just try to figure out what we can do.
Also if I understood right your rom is from desire HD device, right?
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I think I confused. Yes WM 6.5 (those are 217XX, 218XX and 219XX) have startmenu on top and WM6.5.X (those are 216XX, 22XXX, 23XXX, 28XXX, 29XXX) have startmenu on bottom.
My older ROMs before CR192 DHD 0.3 was using WM6.5 (startmenu on top) but was using OSKitchen. I have attached screenshot below and also I have the ROM.
So finally is that what you wanted? If you don't mind about older packages (of courses should have because it os build itself is old) and minor bugs, I can upload for you.
P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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I think I confused. Yes WM 6.5 (those are 217XX, 218XX and 219XX) have startmenu on top and WM6.5.X (those are 216XX, 22XXX, 23XXX, 28XXX, 29XXX) have startmenu on bottom.
My older ROMs before CR192 DHD 0.3 was using WM6.5 (startmenu on top) but was using OSKitchen. I have attached screenshot below and also I have the ROM.
So finally is that what you wanted? If you don't mind about older packages (of courses should have because it os build itself is old) and minor bugs, I can upload for you.
P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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Thats the one he is most likely talking about since 21916 is 6.5.
By the way CRACING i managed to get the 21916 build in your kitchen. Are there any extra components that i need to remove other than CHT to get stock Sense sliding bar and no extra widgets.
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P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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YES, we are close, the type of the rom is exactly like in the pics but I will be glad if the ROM will be like your GTX (or Theme).
That's mean have to have all, 4 columns Quick links, Taskbar icons, Tweeks, Folders exc...
I also saw after the installation of Opera 10 on your rom GTX, the icon of the Opera was a little old, graphically bad, was not really nice. The official original T-Mobile ROM for HD2 has amazing nice icons for the app after I try one, so maybe we have to update the .dll of the icons to get the latest stylish type of icons after we solve the OS issue.
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Suhaib10 said:
Thats the one he is most likely talking about since 21916 is 6.5.
By the way CRACING i managed to get the 21916 build in your kitchen. Are there any extra components that i need to remove other than CHT to get stock Sense sliding bar and no extra widgets.
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good, good, keep going...:good: