[App] MobileTFL - London Tube Service Status for Windows Mobile - Windows Mobile Apps and Games

New application release: Mobile TFL - London Underground tube status application for Windows Mobile
"annoyed that the G1 and iPhone have an app that does this". I coded this application this evening that reports real time service status data for the London tube network.
It uses the publicly available data from the "Transport for London" website.
Regardless, it allows you to see service updates and station closures / delays in real-time from a tiny Windows Mobile app.
Requires CF 2.0+ (though I've compiled it with 3.5 installed and not bothered to check for backwards compatibility).
Feedback is more than welcome. I've only really tested it in the terrible low res VMs and on a Touch Diamond so as far as the display and scaling goes, your milage may vary. Looks lovely on the Diamond though.
Cab installer and screenshots on very low-fi http://www.davidwhitney.co.uk/software/ holding page.
Latest Version 1.2.0.0
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+Updated to support TFL feed change on June 2010.
1.1.0.0
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+Updated to support TFL feed change on 17th April 2010.
1.0.0.9
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+Fixed critical bug due to data format changes.
+Reworked parsing of source data so it's less sensitive to format changes in the future.
Apologies for the rapid releases, but hopefully the app should be good "long term" as of this release.
There will be one further release in the near future consisting solely of cosmetic changes.
1.0.0.8
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+Improved load speeds
+Fixed critical bug related to a change in source data format
+Skipped two build revisions, these were internal testing versions.
1.0.0.6
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+Fixed a bug that happened on the odd occasion the DLR is actually working.
1.0.0.5
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+Weekend Timetables are now selectable
+The title bar now displays the time period you're currently viewing
+DLR listings / status
1.0.0.4
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+Improved support for devices of different resolutions
+Font and UI Element scaling
+Tube line colours
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Made a subtle update to 1.0.0.1 to remove a crashing bug because my test cases sucked (I developed the app when there were tube errors, the absence of which caused some rookie Xml parsing bugs.)
Same url.
There's also a known issue with station statuses (i.e. they only partially work, don't bet your travel plans on them) but I'll fix that up later today.

Final update for the foreseeable future (unless any crippling bugs are found).
Full tube status, full station notifications, both in real time and planned.
Very much inspired by http://mbarclay.net/?p=64 so credit where due.
Version 1.0.0.3 can be downloaded from
http://www.davidwhitney.co.uk/software/
My lunch hour was lovingly sacrificed to finish this code.

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Great app, thanks!
Just a minor issue on my X1 - despite this having longer vertical real estate, scroll bars are required to see all the tube lines.
The bottom quarter of the screen is not used, and I need to scroll to see beyond the Piccadilly Line - despite the 640 pixels of the Diamond being enough for all the lines in your screenshots. I think the spacing between the lines looks wider on the X1 - not sure why?
Also, could you add colours to the tube lines so it looks more like the widget on the TFL website?
Still, even in its current form this is great and very usable. Cheers.

I think I know why there might be scaling issues.
Due to the lack of any decent tabular layout in the CF at first glance I'm calculating heights manually.
I have a sneaking suspicion that I use the device height to calculate the height of each item, and I suspect I'm then sticking the items in a box the size of the diamond resolution
I'll see if I can squeeze in a fix in the next day or two, work permitting.
Thanks for the kind comments + constructive criticism!

Thanks David - look forward to the update.
I think this is the sort of webapp / widget that there seems to be plenty of on the iphone but are lacking on Windows Mobile......for absolutely no reason. Much better to fire up your app than wait for Opera to start and then go the TFL website and download all the unnecessary info as well as the tube status.
Even if one prefers the visuals on a website, these are far better included on device in a webapp, with the internet connection just downloading the raw information. I vote for more simple apps of this nature.

I found a few minutes to try and patch up the application.
1.0.0.4 contains improved rendering that should (at least in theory) support devices of varying dimensions (font / UI element scaling). Hopefully this doesn't entirely trash the interface on other devices, but I've tested it both in varying VMs, on a Diamond and in Windows at different (and often hilarious) resolutions.
Also added coloured glyphs representing the TfL colours for the various tube lines.
Updates posted on http://www.davidwhitney.co.uk/software/ and images above updated.
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David, thanks a lot for sharing this app with us. Cheers!

Works and looks great on a Touch HD. Nice UI, simple and effective. Unfortunately at £6.30 a ride I only use the tube when I am absolutely desperate these days. Do you think you may extend to Overground and Bus information as well? May widen the audience a bit?
Thank you for sharing.

Excellent, I'm really glad the new scaling code works. Quite a relief.
As for further TFL services, to be honest I'm not sure yet. It all depends on how the data could be presented.
Historically laying out things like bus timetables in a usable and intuitive way is very difficult (just look at bus stops for an obvious example). In addition to that there's tonnes and tonnes of data. I guess it could be presented using a searchable interface or by putting in favorite routes or trains to monitor.
I'm very much open to suggestions and if it feels right I'll probably produce an "enhanced" version of the app with the additional timetable and route data. I'd probably maintain the two separately to keep the tube status app small and sweet.

Nice work!

Does not really work for me! I get 404's!

There are a few reasons you'll get 404s.
The first is if the Transport for London website is down (which it isn't currently) as the data is parsed from there (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/livetravelnews/realtime/tube/default.html specifically- see if you can access it on your device using a browser).
The second is a badly configured or misconfigured proxy in windows mobile (in your connection settings. I always find it prudent to disable the mobile provider proxies as they tend to interfere with applications).
The third is that your data connection isn't opening when requested.
A theoretical fourth reason would be some kind of firewall.
Hope some of those pointers help.

Yep, found out why... Phone was connected on Activesync over bluetooth (had left it on). It works now. I am a muppet :S

Not a problem, glad it works for you

davidwhitney said:
Excellent, I'm really glad the new scaling code works. Quite a relief.
As for further TFL services, to be honest I'm not sure yet. It all depends on how the data could be presented.
Historically laying out things like bus timetables in a usable and intuitive way is very difficult (just look at bus stops for an obvious example). In addition to that there's tonnes and tonnes of data. I guess it could be presented using a searchable interface or by putting in favorite routes or trains to monitor.
I'm very much open to suggestions and if it feels right I'll probably produce an "enhanced" version of the app with the additional timetable and route data. I'd probably maintain the two separately to keep the tube status app small and sweet.
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I see what you mean having just looked at the bus information which is quite extensive and always will be I guess. Keeping things simple maybe colour codes minor, major, severe may be better than nothing. I imagine that would not be so easy to transform from the info being parsed though. Overground does not look so extensive, today anyway.

Excellent idea and app.
Just a couple of points/questions:
1. Might be useful to have a 'last updated' line? maybe just as a page accessible via the menu if the screen estate is not available.
2. When I run it I get the spinning wheel for about 11 seconds whilst loading - should it take that long? Would cooking it in reduce this?
I am using this on a Raphael with a custom 21028 ROM.
Cheers

1. Might be useful to have a 'last updated' line? maybe just as a page accessible via the menu if the screen estate is not available.
- I've been thinking this myself. It was just something that slipped my mind first time around. It'd also make it easier to distinguish whether you're looking at current or planned service statuses. I've just noticed that the TfL website also offers a list of planned incidents for "next weekend" so I'll incorporate that in the next release.
2. When I run it I get the spinning wheel for about 11 seconds whilst loading - should it take that long? Would cooking it in reduce this?
- This has plagued me somewhat. Part of it is the framework start-up time (which is subtle but measurable) and part of it is the fact that I do the first service update in the constructor of the application.
If you don't have an active data connection the app will have to establish a connection before it'll paint to the screen causing the unusually long load time.
This effectively means that the app doesn't perform it's first render until the first Http request has completed. It's a bit of a silly design decision but added the first fetch to the forms "Loaded" event seemed to perform identically. I guess I could try force a redraw first...
As some anecdotal evidence, with a data connection active on my Diamond it takes 4 seconds to load the app.
There are a few work-arounds I've investigated but none of them seem to offer significant speed advantages.
Offhand I don't remember the CPU speed of the Raphael, but perhaps that's a factor?
I'll continue to look into it as I add extra features, and hopefully I'll be able to shave off a few seconds for these edge cases.
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I've just noticed that my recent installers have accidently included a few of the compact framework assemblies. You might find that going into the install directory (ProgramFiles/MobileTFL ususally) and removing everything that isn't MobileTFL.exe and MobileTFL.ico will both save about 200k of space and improve performance if you have the compact framework cooked into your rom. As far as I'm aware I shouldn't have to include these framework assemblies so I'll produce a smaller installer later (~44k rather than ~250).

I just noticed a problem with scaling when capitals are being used on Touch HD.
A nice touch would be if you touch the page with your thumb/stylus it takes you to the Line status page and vice versa.

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[APP][Manila2D NEW Weather] MeteoRay AW v1.2

This version of Meteoray has been totally rewritten from the start, this done so that finally a weather tab worthy of its name is available also for Manila2D, with automatic offline hourly updates.
No comparison in our opinion, to the ineffective and statics forecasts that this interface has as standard. No necessary patch for Manila, no altered dll , no external server dedicated.
Very easy to use; It is possibile to easily obtain the forecasts for any location present in the database of Accuweather (over 2.7 million locations). This version is aided by the weather forecasts of "Accuweather.com", elaborating the data which is freely available on the internet enabling it to be shown correctly in the weather tab.
MeteoRay is "Donationware", therefore you are totally free to say a simple "thankyou" or to make a donation to the programmers (My daughter and myself) to add an incentive for further development, correction of bugs, release of new projects.
It is our intention, within the shortest possible time (considering that programming for us isn’t a profession but a passion) to expand the program with new features making it along the same lines as the Italian version shown here:
http://meteoray.mondoweb.net/topic779.html
Some screenshots:
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Installation
It couldn’t be any easier: Just open up the zip file and copy the obtained folders wherever you want to. Preferably, but not absolutely necessary, copy them to the internal memory of the pda due to the slightly slower start up time of external memories such as SD, miniSD or Micro SD. Wherever the folders are placed the software will autodetect the paths needed and will act accordingly.
Requirements
Manila2D interface working normally (obviously) and the presence on the PPC of .Net Framework (freely downloadable from the Microsoft website however present in most of the cooked roms). Put in a number of locations inferior or the same as those set up before hand on your Manila2D interface, up to a total of no more than 5 on MeteoRay. The locations chosen in Manila2d can be any provided; It will be MeteoRays job to change them into the locations you have chosen for the software If for example you wish to choose 5 locations in MeteoRay you must first put 5 or more in Manila2D before updating.
Options description
A few options to simplify the use ,from top to bottom:
- ACCUWEATHER LOGO Opens Opera (if present) or Pocket Internet Explorer on the www.accuweather.com homepage
- ENGLISH/METRIC with this switch you are able to download the data directly in Fahrenheit or Celsius, this way you will avoid the bug present in Manila2D relating to the conversion from Fahrenheit to Celsius (not very accurate)
- BOX for CHOICE OF LOCATION put in a number of locations inferior or the same as those set up before hand on your Manila2D interface, up to a total of no more than 5 on MeteoRay. The real difference being that you are able to choose your own. The code that you must put in is that used at Accuweather.com; at the first start up of the software it will show 5 pre-programmed locations in the UK to use as an example.
- "EXPLORER ICONS" each of them opens the corresponding page of Weather Forecast AccuWeather (online)
- UPDATE use this for normal updates of the weather forecast. The forecasts downloaded will be for 3 days, and for 3 days the software will work offline putting the necessary weather icons in the correct place in the Manila2D. To reset the update interval, just do a normal Manila2D update before downloading the forecasts with MeteoRay. However, the Manila2D normally does this operation when the PPC is connected to the PC using Activesync
- >> use this to move over the screen of advanced options.. Also using the key << you can return the to first page. The advanced options aloe the selection and the download of the Satellite Animations from the whole world in .gif format. They will be saved in the directory "Meteo" and can be visualised using your preferred programme
- EXIT does this need explaining?
- INFO Information about this software.
Normal use
Meteoray downloads the necessary data to enable it to work correctly through any working connection on your PPC. Needless to say that it is ideal to update using "free connections" such as WI-FI, Bluetooth or Activesync. The data shown is that relative to the next 5 hourly steps (for example, if it is 21.12, Meteoray will show the forecast for 22.00 in large numbers and in small numbers it will show the forecasts for 23:00, 00:00. 01:00, 02:00) The second temperature in the small icons at the bottom is the "Realfeel" (the temperature that is actually felt by the human body depending on the wind, humidity etc).
Removal
Very easy : just remove the folder containing the software. On reaching the first hourly step you will get an error (then there will be others; basically the PPC is trying to use the software that has been removed)
For those who really want to remove all: you could remove the whole key "MeteoRay" from "HKCU - Software" to eliminate any trace of use from the registry, the file "MeteoRay.png" from the directory "\Windows" and you have finished. The others can leave everything as it is, it takes up just a very few Kb of space and there are no further consequences.
What is and isn’t allowed
You are free to include the links to the MeteoRay Forum to enable the download of the installation file, but Not allowed to enable those files to be directly downloaded from your Website, Blog, ftp etc...
For a very simple reason: To make it easier for the user during the update. To have on the web various versions, obsolete, incomplete or bugged won’t help you, in fact it will do the complete opposite .You are also allowed to include the software as it is , (without making any changes to it), to your own personalised roms. Just one suggestion, do it in such a way to allow the files to be overwritten to simplify any eventual updates.
Final notes
Unfortunately our English isn’t the best; this page has been translated for us, but our future replies won’t always be as grammatically correct. We are counting on the "XDA-Dev Power Users" for the most obvious replies to be given to the less knowledgeable Users. Thankyou in advance for your cooperation.
Important
At the moment it is only possibile to use MeteoRay with locations in your own time zone; after receiving your feedback and views about this present version we will further rewrite the software routines to eliminate this annoying limitation. This will allow MeteoRay to be able to easily visualise also the time in different time zones, therefore working as a mini-time converter (useful for those who travel or even just for curiosity).
If you are satisfied with the work that has been carried out up to now, you could offer us a pizza or a beer...
Enjoy it, Davide & Federica Ippolito
>> Download link <<
MeteoRay Forum (all software versions):
http://meteoray.mondoweb.net
MeteoRay AW English thread:
http://meteoray.mondoweb.net/topic790.html
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Hi RAY,
Many compliments for your hard work.
Very beautifull application... Very usefull and very simple to use...
@All: I suggest all of you to try it...
BYE, Bobo
This is working with the weather but how do i see the satellite views they have downloaded do i view them through Manila2d or your program ??
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You can use your favorite program that supports animated gifs; you will find the images downloaded into the directory "MeteoRay\Meteo"
raytracer said:
You can use your favorite program that supports animated gifs; you will find the images downloaded into the directory "MeteoRay\Meteo"
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ok thanks great app i thought i was doing something wrong
Thanks for your consideration.
I could also implement an internal viewer (and probably I will do in the future), when I'm working on offline html report summarizing the Weather Forecast in table like this:
Great i look forward to using future versions and a lookaround your forum thanks
Interesting Man.
Will try asap. Thanks a lot.
Please enjoy
WOW!!!!
No word........
You are the international MeteoMan
bigix1 said:
WOW!!!!
No word........
You are the international MeteoMan
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Thanks, my friend! If this topic will be followed with interest, even this version will have soon the same features of the Italian...
At this moment has already been downloaded 58 times and this topic 815 read... any comment? Some impression of use?
Really cool app!!
If you can implement summarization, it would be outstanding. Or you can give options to set offline update steps to more then 1 hour. for having, like half day review
Thanks for your comment, cadac.
I can certainly implement summarizations and more, but before I continue working on I would understand if it can affect the Users.
And 'I will improve the graphics but, I repeat, is important for me read your impressions of actual use.
Problem whn pressing "update"
I have an HTC Touch Viva with Manila2D v.3.0 build 31508. I have put "MeteoRay AW 1.2" in the Program Files folder.
I get two basic4ppc errors when pressing "Update": "__main_aggmeteo" and "__main_assegnadati".
Check your internet connection.
It is not yet optimized handling errors, but the messages you read are due to a failure to update.
PS - 158 downloads at this moment, no others comments or suggestions?
How do I get this to work with US locations? Especially the ones not in the default Manilla 2D weather database.
Thanks

GPS Sports Computer - navmi

Hello
Following discussion and development on AndyZap's GPS Cycle Computer thread, I'm starting this new thread.
It's all about navmi...
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navmi is a GPS sports application, currently available for Windows Mobile touch screen (professional). It contains lots of DNA from AndyZap's GPS Cycle Computer - and it's now been tested on a few devices including:
- Omnia II
- Diamond
- HTC HD (and HD2 Leo)
- Axim x51v
- Omnia
Current download is shown on navmi.com.
There is currently a 1 dot 1 dot 1 release in Beta testing
Among navmi's features are:
Time and distance tracking
Autopause
Auto lap (auto waypoint) recording
Manual lap recording
Integrated sports photography
Map display – including offline caching of maps
Chart display – speed and elevation
Multiple settings for multiple sports
Training Diary – including lap, map, photo and chart review
Integration with runsaturday online training log and analysis tools
KML and GPX track export
navmi proudly contains:
DNA from the GPS Cycle Computer – by AndyZap – with design by expo7 and special thanks to AngelGR – used under new bsd license
integration with runsaturday.com
mapping by OpenStreetMap served by Cloudmade – used under creative commons license
voice from acclivity on freesound.org – used under creative commons license
sound effects from sowatt and milton on freesound.org – used under creative commons license
extra graphics input from clker.com – used under creative commons license
I hope this is the right place to start this thread!
Omnia II, Diamond, HTC HD, Axim x51v...hmmm...does it work in other resolutioin like WQVGA or QVGA? Looks nice...
hi...im a big fan of AndyZap GPS Cycle Computer...and use it on every occasion, while on the go. unfortunately development seems to be abandoned . so hope you will get best of it and follow his high standards... will watch that development closely.
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Omnia II, Diamond, HTC HD, Axim x51v...hmmm...does it work in other resolutioin like WQVGA or QVGA? Looks nice...
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I think it does... although I've not tested it on a real device of other sizes yet.
Please do feel free to try it and let me know
the touchHD is wvga and navmi does almost perfect on it.
Switching between apps does bring the winMo taskbar back into the picture tho and consequently that covers part of the function buttons.
Not a major problem.
Tho I did click the winMo 'Ok' button (top right taskbar corner) once and navmi asked whether I wanted to proceed, as logging would be canceled. After clicking 'No' it canceled anyway, toughy...
rhtizzy said:
the touchHD is wvga and navmi does almost perfect on it.
Switching between apps does bring the winMo taskbar back into the picture tho and consequently that covers part of the function buttons.
Not a major problem.
Tho I did click the winMo 'Ok' button (top right taskbar corner) once and navmi asked whether I wanted to proceed, as logging would be canceled. After clicking 'No' it canceled anyway, toughy...
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I'll take a look at the switching thing - that doesn't happen on my Omnia when I use Samsung's cube button task switcher thing. What are you using to switch on the HD?
As for the "No" problem... I've just checked the code and it definitely should work OK...
I use Quickmenu to replace the regular startmenu and following your comment I switched back to regular and indeed, no more winMo taskbar pop-over... good stuff!
Wow, been after something like this for ages but havent got round to looking! Will try to get to grips with it before my next snow boarding trip so i can see how far i rode!! Good work!!
HollyWolf, are you the coder of this?
Also, add Samsung Omnia to the list of working phones. Works fine on mine.
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Wow, been after something like this for ages but havent got round to looking! Will try to get to grips with it before my next snow boarding trip so i can see how far i rode!! Good work!!
HollyWolf, are you the coder of this?
Also, add Samsung Omnia to the list of working phones. Works fine on mine.
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Excellent - thanks for letting me know
Yes, I am the coder - I've taken AndyZ's GPS Cycle Computer as a start, merged in lots of code from Runsat and am loving writing code
What use using to write it in and with what language?
Also, is there a "how to use" guide at all?
Cheers
Almost all written in C# compact framework - 2.0.
There's no manual yet - so best to write here or on navmi.com if you have a question.
Thanks hollywoof, sure am gonna try this!
Looks great - gonna give it a try!
thumbs up +1
hollywoof, will there be an option to import kml or gpx files in the future? Would be nice if I could add the runs from RunSaturday to navmi. This way I have totals on my Omnia.
Installed it, looks very nice. Will test it soon while running.
I'll have a play in a bit on the HD2, pity it's snowing so much, I've not got a chance to get out in the velomobile to see how accurate it is.
One thing that is missing from gpscyclecomputer is a seperate EXIT function..
Using winmo 6.5.x versions (with the bottom buttons) you cant close the app, short of using a secondary taskmanager, so if you can include something along those lines (not tried it yet) then that would be great (and future proof it a bit).
I'm intrigued by the lapfunction, how is it going to work? I've tried a couple of other ones in the past, that haven't been quite as obvious as could be.
Especially when racing, I tend to find that pressing something is a no-no (especially cycling at 35mph and above on a 440m velodrome yo can lap quite quickly) and some of the others don't seem to realise that when you go past the place you started logging then that's the end of the first lap.
anyway, glad to see someone has taken on the basics of andyzaps app looking forward to seeing how it progresses.
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hollywoof, will there be an option to import kml or gpx files in the future? Would be nice if I could add the runs from RunSaturday to navmi. This way I have totals on my Omnia..
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Thanks
I've written the GPX/KML code for course following (similar to the GCC's implementation), but I'd not thought about syncing all activities/the totals that way - maybe I'll give that a try! I do want to sync photos in as well at some point.
As another alternative I was considering writing a separate runsaturday app...
Thanks for the feedback - you're helping to make the app better
fards said:
One thing that is missing from gpscyclecomputer is a seperate EXIT function..
Using winmo 6.5.x versions (with the bottom buttons) you cant close the app, short of using a secondary taskmanager, so if you can include something along those lines (not tried it yet) then that would be great (and future proof it a bit).
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You should be able to close the app by:
- " - pausing the activity
- square - stopping the activity
- home - go to home page
- exit - exit
- yes - I really want to exit
But maybe that is a bit too long winded. I'm mainly testing on 6.5 (Omnia II) so I know it works there...
I'm intrigued by the lapfunction, how is it going to work? I've tried a couple of other ones in the past, that haven't been quite as obvious as could be.
Especially when racing, I tend to find that pressing something is a no-no (especially cycling at 35mph and above on a 440m velodrome yo can lap quite quickly) and some of the others don't seem to realise that when you go past the place you started logging then that's the end of the first lap.
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The autolap currently goes off measured distance - you can set up the autolap distance in the settings for each sport and then the just laps whenever it measures that you've reach the distance.
From personal experience of athletics tracks, I doubt you will get very good performance for cycling around a velodrome - it's just not a nice track for GPS to estimate distance... the estimation errors really build up around the circle :/ For example, I once did a 6 hour track race (normal 400m track) - and my Garmin 301 was almost 10% inaccurate compared to the lap counter. Some of this was due to me not always taking the inside lane, but (looking at the recorded track) most of it was just down to nasty GPS readings. Surprisingly that 10% was an overestimate, not an underestimate. In more normal runs, I think I'd expect my Garmin to be 1-2% accurate?
rhtizzy said:
Tho I did click the winMo 'Ok' button (top right taskbar corner) once and navmi asked whether I wanted to proceed, as logging would be canceled. After clicking 'No' it canceled anyway, toughy...
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I've now seen this too... looks like a winmo/compact framework issue (as the code looks right) - I'll look into a workaround to fix it!
How do you import map files?? I can't find anything in the prog nor do i understand the folder structure in the maps folder?
Cheers
digital_biscuit said:
How do you import map files?? I can't find anything in the prog nor do i understand the folder structure in the maps folder?
Cheers
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By default navmi uses downloaded maps from an OpenStreetMap server - as selected under Settings->Maps - the default is a fairly easy to read Navmi format served from CloudMade.
If you want these to download live during your ride, then on the "Plotting" page, choose "Auto download maps"
Personally, I tend to download maps offline - before I head out running - I'm on prepay! I do this by connecting to the web over ActiveSync or WiFi, starting an activity (that I never intend to keep), waiting until I get some GPS lock, switching the display to the map page and then scrolling around the UI to download all the areas I want to.
This OSM format maps is the main direction I want to continue moving forwards - it's easiest (requires least effort!). When you use this the structure in the maps folder is split up using zoom levels, then latitudes -it's a structure that's easy for navmi to read, but it's not a structure you want to play with yourself!
Beyond OSM, navmi also supports (adapted from the GCC code) a couple of alternative ways to use maps. To use any of these other methods, you must:
1. select "off" on the Maps settings
2. do not check Auto download maps
3. use File Explorer to ensure that the navmi maps folder is empty
With these 3 steps done... you can create your own maps using your PC - see instructions in line 547 and beyond in http://code.google.com/p/gccv2/source/browse/trunk/GpsCycleComputer/Readme.htm
I know at least one person is currently using GPS Tuner .gmi files with navmi - if you are, then please feel free to post with advice.
Hope that helps - sorry it's a bit long winded!
Stuart

Jaxbot's Windows Phone 7 Theme - 5/8/10: version 1.15 released!

Edit: For the new version, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8512590#post8512590
Hello
Welcome to my thread for my Windows Phone 7 Theme. The ultimate goal of this theme is to have a fully featured Windows Phone 7 theme that allows many similar functions as the real device.
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"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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To use it, install the cab file below, then click on the icon in the start menu.
To exit, long-tap on the right side of the screen.
Settings is also listed in the long-tap menu.
To lock the device, click on the top of the screen, near the clock.
Current version: 1.15:
Performance greatly increased, lockscreen password, etc.
"Treats"
The real WP7 contains something called "Treats". These are little, fairly useless, but cool features.
Some of the ones included in this theme:
Text icon changes depending on amount of messages. First it is a smile, then a frown, and finally a gasping face.
Bing search background changes depending on the day's image.
Upcoming features
Pictures hub
Office hub
Games hub
Integration with Steam
Appointments tile
Smoother interface
Known issues:
Facebook does not stay logged in
...More later
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEYzUhnmRFk
Download: http://windowsphonehacker.com/wp7s.php
See website for full details and screenshots: http://windowsphonehacker.com/wp7s.php
People Hub
- Allows seeing contacts on homescreen
-Favorites list
-List of contacts. Tapping on a blue letter brings up a letter list.
-List of latest friends facebook status
Text tile
-Displays number of new messages
-Changes emoticon based on number of messages
Outlook tile
-Displays number of new mail messages
Phone tile
-Displays number of missed calls
Pictures tile
-Displays pictures, fading in and out new ones
-Takes you to default album viewer
Search
-Displays latest Bing background
-Searches Bing with custom keyboard
See website for full details: http://windowsphonehacker.com/wp7s.php
nice
is it only for WVGA screen?
chriscsh said:
nice
is it only for WVGA screen?
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VGA/WVGA. It also works (in theory) on QVGA, but it may not run well due to older devices being slower.
Looks and runs nicely on my Blackstone, have noticed a few things though:
- the blue squares shake a lot if you press and hold the screen...not sure if it's intentional but personally I feel the 'vibration' effect isn't too nice to look at.
- when scrolling on the apps screen some program names get broken. For example: 'FreeUpRam' becomes 'FreeUP' and 'pTravelAlarm' becomes 'pTravelAl'. The scrolling motion is also a bit jumpy.
- could not find a way of returning from bing search to the main screen without exiting the app and reloading it.
- pictures tab does not see images on the SD card in \Storage Card\My Documents or \Storage Card\DCIM (it would be nice if it could be set in the settings to look at 2 paths - storage and phone)
- none of my music is listed (also stored on storage card).
VERY nice start though! I'll be watching this one!
...also for some reason your website just comes up grey on my PC in IE8.
sweet, why not put it on your diamond2?
what are your thoughts on changing the faded black background to pitch black?? I am guessing you're trying to make it look like what's shown in the microsoft demos on that prototype device...? That's probably due to the display on that device though and i'm going to take a wild guess and say MS will make it black like on the zune hd when it's done. Or maybe you have a different reason for it?
cool
Jaxbot said:
Hello
I have released the BETA version of my Windows Phone 7 Series Theme, and am looking for some feedback
To use it, install the cab file below, then click on the icon in the start menu.
To exit, long-tap on the right side of the screen.
Settings is also listed in the long-tap menu.
To lock the device, click on the top of the screen, near the clock.
Current features:
People hub with recent, all contacts, and a list of contacts Facebook status updates.
Bing search with background changing depending on Bing picture of day.
Live tiles (Javascript based, set a URL in the settings to your own)
Program launcher
Lock screen
Upcoming features:
More hubs (give me ideas!)
Better animations
More social network integration
(Ideas?)
Known issues:
Facebook does not stay logged in
Facebook lags when viewing What's New
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEYzUhnmRFk
Download: http://windowsphonehacker.jaxbot.com/files/wp7s_beta.CAB
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going to go try it out its going to look good
wm7
keep gettin a error when i launch the app
are you using windows form control/user control to display items? You can't get any smoother animation with windows form controls, because everytimes the control Location changes, it repaints itself regardless and as you can see it is very resource consuming. You gotta paint individual control for better performance.
But overall, it's looking pretty nice
I trie on my ELF P3450 and runs fine but a little bit slower, understand that, older device...
Very nice app... any chance to edit menu ( the right side)???
ohhh...and tell the trick to unlock screen i spend about 2 min to find out...looool
Feedback
I tried this on opal (201mhz processor) qvga screen.
I can tell one thing its just awesome on my device i didnt expected it to be so smoothe (iam comparing this with the preview version) its much smoother just one thing on home screen while scrolling the tiles move with hands thats absolutely smoothe but for some time it leaves a trace of the tile say 1 or 2 seconds if u fix that u can officially say its compatible with qvga.
I expect more pages, more likelyness to original wp7
Hey Jaxbot,
It's getting better - the only that has disappointed me with this build (as opposed to the one I've tested for you) is the animations seem to have got slower rather than faster - especially for the people hub.
I see you have fixed some bugs - some still remain but I will not double report those.
A new one, it's nice to see you've added the contact surname, however, it is now shown underneath the next person's first name (i.e. you've not given it enough space/padding).
The same goes for the program list (the second part of the program name is cut off). good to see it's actually working now - though still not scrollable.
The live tiles still take a long time to animate out/in.
More to come...
Casey
Update: In qvga device there is no tile for images.
Plus this homescreen needs kinetic scrolling its a must coz scrolling between the left and right pages is excellent the animation is perfect but scrolling down is little hard so i am saying kinetic scrolling please add in next version.
very nice start.
theres alot of shaking around on the icons, and arent any smooth transitions. btu seeing as this is version 1, im sure that you will refine it in the coming weeks
i look forward to the more refined version. good work and thanks for the download!
很漂亮,qvga也可以用,但是提出几个问题:
1. 使用过程中,容易造成崩溃死机。
2. 上下左右滑动,速度很慢。
3. 不支持中文路径。
4. 程序图标不显示。
:d:d
This app is awfull
I'm running it on my HP614C, WM6.5 with a 520Mhz processor.
It's stille pretty slow, but it surely is an improvement over the alpha release!
Keep it coming
welki1979 said:
- when scrolling on the apps screen some program names get broken. For example: 'FreeUpRam' becomes 'FreeUP' and 'pTravelAlarm' becomes 'pTravelAl'. The scrolling motion is also a bit jumpy.
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My guess is they are taking up more room than available, which means the auto-font size is broken. I'll look into it.
welki1979 said:
- could not find a way of returning from bing search to the main screen without exiting the app and reloading it.
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The hardware arrow button on my device works for that, but I'll add a software button for people who don't have one.
welki1979 said:
- pictures tab does not see images on the SD card in \Storage Card\My Documents or \Storage Card\DCIM (it would be nice if it could be set in the settings to look at 2 paths - storage and phone)
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I'll look into it, currently it only allows one picture path.
welki1979 said:
- none of my music is listed (also stored on storage card).
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Haven't gotten around to a music+video hub yet, but it's coming.
welki1979 said:
...also for some reason your website just comes up grey on my PC in IE8.
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Uh oh. I'll look into that.
Casey_boy said:
A new one, it's nice to see you've added the contact surname, however, it is now shown underneath the next person's first name (i.e. you've not given it enough space/padding).
The same goes for the program list (the second part of the program name is cut off). good to see it's actually working now - though still not scrollable.
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Interesting, and yes I noticed that. The problem is that most testing was on the Device Emulator at QVGA resolution, so the fonts worked perfectly on low res. I'll play with the numbers at get that fixed.
About the speed being lower, I'm confused by that, as not much was added (just fixes from the list you sent me). By chance do you have anything running in the background?
Otherwise, I'm still working on speeding up the animations, expect some changes soon
jzlchl said:
很漂亮,qvga也可以用,但是提出几个问题:
1. 使用过程中,容易造成崩溃死机。
2. 上下左右滑动,速度很慢。
3. 不支持中文路径。
4. 程序图标不显示。
:d:d
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I'm under the impression this is an English-only forum, but I'll answer your concerns as best I can.
1robably takes too much memory.
2:Obviously, since it's QVGA, it runs slow. (since the device is older)
3:I don't know what to say, because .NET CF handles all that.
4robably due to #3.

[APP] moneyharp personal money tracker - beta

Moneyharp is the only expense tracker for Windows Mobile with finger-friendly interface!
It is full-featured, stand-alone personal money management application for day-to-day use.
You can find full description and how-to at moneyharp.com
Prerequisites: .NET Compact Framework 1.1 or greater, touchscreen.
DOWNLOAD: attached
This is the very first test release.
I wrote this app also as a test of some interface and usablility ideas - PLEASE POST YOUR FEEDBACK, I'm eager to hear it.
Screenshot :
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thanks for sharing the app
how do i install this on the hd2
installation
You can download file to your PC and then copy it to HD2 storage through ActiveSync or card reader; or, you can download file directly to device using HD2 web browser.
Here's the link: moneyharp.com/content/moneyharp.cab
[as a new user I'm not allowed to post links, please copy-paste them]
Then browse to downloaded file on the device and double-click it - choose where to install (storage footprint is 0.5MB, so "Main Memory" should be ok), press "ok".
There's also an illustrated guide here: wmexperts.com/articles/howto/how_to_install_uninstall_and_t.html
Please let me know if there are any issues.
it not work on wvga device
Doesn't work on Touch HD , the installation went fine but the program just wouldn't start, it tries to start you can see the hour glass turning but it just doesn't start.
Hi moneyharp,
I have tried little on moneyharp and i already like it. It is completely finger friendly, fast and easy to enter expenses and incomes along with setting up the budget. However there are few things that i noted:
1. After the installation, the program doesnt have an icon
2. It is finger friendly but not user friendly. This could be because i am comparing it with winmoFinance and easy expenses
3. I dont like the color scheme
4. i like application which i can scroll up and down with touchflo. With moneyharp you need to press the up and down key for that. With touchflo, you can remove these two keys and have more space on the screen
5. you can move the list and summary in menu. This will allow more space on screen as currently user can see only 4 items on one screen. Personally i would like the screen to be used maximum to see the entry rather than buttons
6. There should be an option to add notes.
7. As an end user, i would like to capture date and not time in a expense
8. User should have the option to import or export settings or move them to a different location so that in case system crashes or user hard resets phone, the data is saved.
I will use moneyhard couple of days and post my feedback. You are doing a great job. Keep it up. I am looking forward to the next release.
Hi chautruong:
Can you please specify - does it crash, or just does not start, or..?
Hi zjxpot:
Can anyone having Touch HD confirm that moneyharp has an issue with this device?
Meanwhile, I will test in WVGA emulator.
Hi jaskiratsingh:
1. In next release. Just have to draw it.
2. I have tried several expenses apps myself, but tried to write moneyharp as if it was my invention - some concepts really differ. But that doesn't mean I was right. What irritates you most?
3. The skins feature is already there - I will post the skin config file and instructions how to change it shortly.
4. I tried to avoid any device-specific features (in fact, moneyharp doesn't even use hardware buttons). But I am considering some gestures support.
5. I see. But then: - which view (list or summary) do you use more often?
- where to put current balance?
6. My idea was tags should be used for that - than you can generate reports on them. But maybe this is too constrained.
7. You can skip setting time part altogether. If more people are irritated with that, I will leave date only.
8. Backup/restore - in next release. Meanwhile, you can copy config.stor, main1.stor and main2.stor files from program directory to backup location.
Thank you very much for feedback! Please keep on - I need it.
well so far its pretty good,i just wanted a app that i could keep track of what's in the bank and every time i make a transaction i could post it and it will tell me how much i have left and so far that's what this is doing. but there is no icon pic on the app and when k first installed it it told me to install another app so this one could work better,do youknow about that
sorry. i didn't explain exactly. it run fine on my htc touch hd but not full screen (may be it support wga screen only?)
Nice apps!
Some comments:
1. It seems that there is not Unicod support - Cyrillic letters seen as ???
2. Autoserach in category - when you have long list, it is annoying to scroll. Can you make window for text entering using keyboard (with autocomplete function)?
3. PC companion would be great
4. Account groups would be useful
5. On WVGA screen there is empty space at the bottom
6. Export from Cashorg and other application
Maybe some inspiration
Cheers for the app so far.
Looking forward to seeing this develop.
My friend showed me an app called Money book on her iBone. What was a nice feature is that once you'd added some things to its various categories you could turn the phone to landscape and it was show a bar chart of how much you'd spent in each category (for that month).
You could maybe set periods (e.g. between pay day and the next) so that you could analyse expenditure during that period, ideally graphically like the above idea.
All the best with it!
Ian
Hi jkiller122:
- next release will have icon
- you're probably talking about .NET framework - moneyharp requires that to run. But in Windows Mobile you should already have it installed.
Hi again chautruong:
yes, I can see it in emulator too. Finding out where's the problem now.
Hi landau:
1. yes, currently Western European encoding is used. Will try to fully adopt Unicode in next release.
2. When you have really long list (>100) and keep the button pressed, it starts to accelerate the scroll (jump 5 at a time). Also, if you use some categories often, put a space in front of its name - it will appear on top of the list.
3. After next release
4. I just disabled that, because I was not sure as to how count group account balance in total balance (omit it? omit accounts in group?) Can you please describe the use case scenario for that?
5. yes, looking at it now (see reply to chautruong)
6. Which format do you use to export from Cashorg (OFX/QFX...)? Also, some details will be lost if you import to moneyharp - e.g. it doesn't have check numbers.
Hi otherworld:
- have you tried the reports (menu>Reports)?
Thank you for your feedback! Keep it coming!
moneyharp said:
Hi jaskiratsingh:
1. In next release. Just have to draw it.
2. I have tried several expenses apps myself, but tried to write moneyharp as if it was my invention - some concepts really differ. But that doesn't mean I was right. What irritates you most?
3. The skins feature is already there - I will post the skin config file and instructions how to change it shortly.
4. I tried to avoid any device-specific features (in fact, moneyharp doesn't even use hardware buttons). But I am considering some gestures support.
5. I see. But then: - which view (list or summary) do you use more often?
- where to put current balance?
6. My idea was tags should be used for that - than you can generate reports on them. But maybe this is too constrained.
7. You can skip setting time part altogether. If more people are irritated with that, I will leave date only.
8. Backup/restore - in next release. Meanwhile, you can copy config.stor, main1.stor and main2.stor files from program directory to backup location.
Thank you very much for feedback! Please keep on - I need it.
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Hi Moneyharp,
Please find few comments below:
1. sorting option i.e. ascending date or descending date order
2. if user changes the date, in next transaction the system date should populate instead of chosen date by the user
3. Add a transaction and in Income/Expense: Expense is populated. User can save the transaction, which shouldnt be allowed. This should be Blank and user should be forced to populate income/expense
4. For better UI, as per me,you can remove the time in list view and add income/expense type in same line. Check attachment
In response to backup/restore, what i meant was that the files that contain data should be at a different location say /Storage Card/Expenses and application can point and pick and save data there.
I use the list view mostly. You can keep views : list and summary in menu. You can leave current balance at the bottom or move the current balance at the top
Hi jaskiratsingh
1. moneyharp always sorts records by date in ascending order, and initial position is in the end of the list, so that you see latest entries. An option could be to show either top or bottom of the list (first or last records) - ?
2. The idea was that in one session date is likely to be the same - e.g. you enter transactions for yesterday. moneyharp just repeats the date from last entered transaction in current program usage session.
What are others thinking of that?
3. I didn't want to be too restrictive. User should understand that if he wants full and descriptive reports later, he should fill in all the data. But what if he/she is interested only in some categories or payees tracking - e.g. I want to know how much went to some payee, but no matter the purpose. From my experience, you can't foresee all scenarios, and too many constraints limit them.
4. You have really thought and elaborated on UI options - very impressive!
Still, priority and one of stem ideas in moneyharp is finger-friendly UI. If transaction entries are half the current height, it will be not so comfortable to tap them with your finger (most devices still have touchscreens far from ideal). Also, I noticed that you don't use Payee field - that is why it could fit in 1 line.
That said, you don't tap and edit transactions often - so maybe it's ok to make them narrow.
I invite others to share their opinion!
Option to change the files location - already in list for next release.
Again thank you very much - you provide very qualified and creative review!
Hi moneyharp,
I hard reset my phone and after reinstallation i copied config.stor, main1.stor and main2.stor. Started the application. All the transaction are back but the total is not displayed. Kindly check
Hi jaskiratsingh
Total is 0 or not displayed at all? Are you able to send me some screenshot?
Thank you.
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Hi jaskiratsingh
Total is 0 or not displayed at all? Are you able to send me some screenshot?
Thank you.
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Total was not displayed at all.
I checked now and it is being displayed. Previously, I restarted the ppc couple of times because of installation of applications.
No clue on what happened.
My total was a five figure number.
Just installed to have a look and see how this compares to Cash Organizer, which I use currently.
A few comments that I have initially is the MoneyHarp are:
MoneyHarp doesn't seem to handle screen rotation well. Seems to use the screen height when started to scale the application resolution. This make it very small when started with my keyboard extended and the screen landscape. The application doesn't alter the resolution when switching orientations, so when I slide the keyboard in and switch to a portrait screen the right side of the app is off the screen.
Expect to be able to scroll any of the lists and not have to use the up/down arrows to navigate the menus, etc.
Would also like to be able to have dates shown based on the date style set in the OS or at least have the option to set month before date in the app. Most dates show as I have set in the OS, but when altering the date on transaction entry, it has day before month/year. I would prefer to have month, then day, then year and I'm not sure I would set a specific time ever.
One thing I really like about Cash Organizer is the shortcut they have for adding a new transaction. I map that shortcut to a hardware key and it speeds up entry while on the go. With definitely improves the accuracy of my account balances, since I don't forget to enter later.
MoneyHarp also covers up the bottom bar, which I wouldn't expect. An option to not hide would be appreciated.
MoneyHarp doesn't respond to the back key. Should be able to hit the back key and minimize the app.
I will keep testing more and report back what I find.
Looking very nice so far and keep up the great work.
Hi SinisterJunkie
- I deliberately use portrait orientation only, so when started in portrait it's ok. However, scaling problem in landscape you describe is a bug. I will do my best to correct/workaround this problem in next release, so that it is scaled correctly and you just need to turn it if started in landscape.
- I have this on my list, but next release probably won't include gestures yet.
- I use Windows setting throughout, but in date control it is fixed. Change month and day positions depending on OS setting - noted.
- CashOrg have a separate application for speed entry. I wanted to avoid that and make the main app speedy enough - so you can map a button to moneyharp app, and 'add new' is just 1 click away!
- Since moneyharp has it's own keyboard (or you can switch to standard keys in Options), I didn't think it to be a problem... User's habits greatly differ though. Can you describe the "use case" - how do you use bottom bar while in moneyharp?
- Hitting it will shut down the application on any screen, while on some devices users would expect it to act like 'ok' when e.g. entering transaction and that will frustrate them. I decided to steer away from hardware-dependent functions, at least in first release.
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts! Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

[APP] Paint Now! Mobile - Mobile Drawing/Imaging Editing

Hi Guys,
Here is my first contribution to the community. I have written an application that is capable of doing some basic drawing/image editing functions and hoped it is useful.
Imagine that you take some photos using your phone and want to upload them right away to your facebook. However You might want to edit/draw them before. In that case, this app might help!
Screenshots
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"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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Requirement:
- Windows Mobile 5.0 or better
- Reasonable amount of free ram available before running the application
- .NET CF 3.5.
Current features:
* Drawing
- Pencil
- Rectangle
- Circle
- Callout
- Text Typing
- Line
- Eye dropper
- Stample tool - e.g. for watermarking your image, Stamping icons...etc
* Image Editing
- Resize
- Crop
- Convert to B&W
- Convert to Sepia
- Rotate Left & Right
- Adjust: Brightness, Contrast, Saturation
- Filter: Sharpen
- File-type Conversion
- Undo/Redo
* Supported File Type
- JPG (By saving JPEG image, you have a possibility to limit image size - good for preparing images for uploading to some WebSite that has file size limitation)
- PNG
- BMP
Know Restriction:
- Image Editing is a memory-hungry process. You might not be able to work well with large image with very high resolution.
- In case of not enough memory, undo/redo functionality might not work well.
- Landscape mode is not supported.
Please Donate!
It was quite a lot of effort for me to develop this application. If you guys like my work, please donate! Only a few dollars can already help me a lot. Thanks!
Not sure how to embed html here. However you can donate by visiting: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=DTW8DTHSFJWBS&lc=GB
Current Version:
1.3.27.1353
Donators!
Thank you very much to :
csrgiron
Change log:
1.3.26.1338 (This could be the final release, since I'm starting my new job very soon and I won't have much free time in that case. There might be an update for bug fixes, if some are found)
- Replace the right menu "Up"with "Cancel" in Open/Save file dialog for better meaning.
- Brightness
- Contrast
- Fixed some bugs
- Added Redo functionality
- More undo steps possible (depending on memory and image size), maximum 5 steps.
1.2.19.1251
- Enhanced Open/Save file dialog.
- Sharpen
- Saturation
- Added an option not to use COM object to open/save file
- Added % progress indicator for long run task
- Added possibility to abort long run task
1.1.009.2236
- Eye-Dropper tool
- Enable easier Fore-/Back color switching
- Fixed Pencil Tool lagging problem.
- Rearranged the tool buttons.
1.0.3.1921
- Added line tool
- Change Max Zoom to 800%
- Added an option to disable Anti-Alias when displaying zoomed image.
Screenshots? Seems interesting enough .
Livven said:
Screenshots? Seems interesting enough .
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Hi Livven,
Just added the screenshots. Hope that helps!
If anyone has tested it, please let me know your feedbacks.
I have only two devices I can use to test the application. It would be great to know how it behaves on other devices.
Hey Menos,
I have been looking for a basic drawing program that I can use on my Qvga screen (wing/herald) but so far I am unable to find one that can do what I am looking for. I just caught this thread just before bed tonight so tomorrow I will try it out. In the meantime, an issue I have run across with all other paint programs thus far is anti-aliasing (AA) at full magnification. When I am zoomed in all the way, either the program itself or my wing is AA'ing everything. What I am looking for is a program similar to MSPaint where at full magnification I can draw pixel by pixel, line by line, without the blurry effect of AA. I really hope this is only a system limitation on my end so when I do decide on a new device I will be able to use this. Let me know if all portable drawing programs will do this or if you have any idea how to either change the program/settings or possible a way to disable AA on my device temporarily. As you can see from my avatar, I kill time by making pixel cars and would love to use my phone for that purpose. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
-Dan
tC_Driver said:
Hey Menos,
I have been looking for a basic drawing program that I can use on my Qvga screen (wing/herald) but so far I am unable to find one that can do what I am looking for. I just caught this thread just before bed tonight so tomorrow I will try it out. In the meantime, an issue I have run across with all other paint programs thus far is anti-aliasing (AA) at full magnification. When I am zoomed in all the way, either the program itself or my wing is AA'ing everything. What I am looking for is a program similar to MSPaint where at full magnification I can draw pixel by pixel, line by line, without the blurry effect of AA. I really hope this is only a system limitation on my end so when I do decide on a new device I will be able to use this. Let me know if all portable drawing programs will do this or if you have any idea how to either change the program/settings or possible a way to disable AA on my device temporarily. As you can see from my avatar, I kill time by making pixel cars and would love to use my phone for that purpose. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
-Dan
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Hi Dan,
I would say that currently you will see AA in my application due to the drawing algorithm of gdi+ I'm using. However, yes it is possible to draw enlarged images without having AA. You can see an example, when you try to select an image for the Stample tool. If you image is smaller than the preview picture box, it should be enlarged without having AA. Let me know if this is the case for your device. If not, then it means that your device might do AA additionally.
I will add an option to next release to choose whether to enable AA for displaying enlarged images or not. Thanks for your thought!
Menos,
Thanks for the quick response. I took your advice and tried a few things. I installed the .cab file and the first thing I noticed is the inability to search the SD card contents to open a file. After saving an image to the phone I could easily open, just an extra step. First attempt, the zoom function is nice but does not zoom in far enough to see individual pixels for alteration. I also noticed that your program lacks a straight line drawing tool. I do the majority of my drawing with the line tool, if possible, please add. After zooming into my PNG image (width 425 X height 115) I noticed that there was AA. Second attempt, I tried another PNG image (around 100 X 100) to see if a smaller image at full zoom produced the same result. It did, still AA'd at full zoom. Third attempt was using your stamp tool which I must say is a great addition to the program. This tool allowed me to see the entire PNG (100 X 100) image without AA and was able to increase the size which in turn increase the magnification after the image was stamped. Only problem, after I stamped the image, everything was anti aliased once again. I hope this helps in some way. Let me know if you need any further testing on a Qvga screen and I would be more than happy to oblige. I will keep an eye on this thread for future releases.
-Dan
tC_Driver said:
Menos,
Thanks for the quick response. I took your advice and tried a few things. I installed the .cab file and the first thing I noticed is the inability to search the SD card contents to open a file. After saving an image to the phone I could easily open, just an extra step. First attempt, the zoom function is nice but does not zoom in far enough to see individual pixels for alteration. I also noticed that your program lacks a straight line drawing tool. I do the majority of my drawing with the line tool, if possible, please add. After zooming into my PNG image (width 425 X height 115) I noticed that there was AA. Second attempt, I tried another PNG image (around 100 X 100) to see if a smaller image at full zoom produced the same result. It did, still AA'd at full zoom. Third attempt was using your stamp tool which I must say is a great addition to the program. This tool allowed me to see the entire PNG (100 X 100) image without AA and was able to increase the size which in turn increase the magnification after the image was stamped. Only problem, after I stamped the image, everything was anti aliased once again. I hope this helps in some way. Let me know if you need any further testing on a Qvga screen and I would be more than happy to oblige. I will keep an eye on this thread for future releases.
-Dan
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Hi Dan,
Thanks for your information. Yeah as I stated before, that the previous version used gdi+ to draw image and I have no control over the algorithm it uses. However, I have updated the application to have an option, not to do AA when rendering image.
Additionally I have added the line tools and increase the max zoom to 800% as requested.
For the problem that you don't find the files on you SD card, that is already known to me. This is because the default open file dialog does not look for files in all folders. (but it does if you have folder like my documents on your sd card). I am planning to create my own dialog box later.
Please try the new version and let me know if that meets your need?
Perfect!
The additions fit my needs and hopefully the needs of your other potential end users as well. The magnification is exactly what I was looking for. It gets me in far enough to change the image one pixel at a time. I can also confirm that your AA option works perfectly. You have no idea how thrilled I was to see that my device wasn't the problem and that it was capable of seeing a raw image with the proper setting. As of right now I can also confirm that the program works perfectly on my QVGA screen. There are a few more things I would like to request, I hope you do not mind.
-Eye-dropper tool: I use this hand in hand with the line tool to pull a color from the image or a shade chart and would love it if this tool was considered for future releases.
-Eraser tool: I wonder if there is a way to use the eraser tool in a manner similar to MSPaint. In MSPaint, with both a primary and secondary color selected, one could change the primary color in the image to the secondary color by holding the right mouse key while pressing the left key over the area in need of a color change. Could this be possible while holding a soft key at the same time the tool is run over an image? Just a thought.
-Selector tool: I use this in conjunction with a copy/paste function in MSPaint to select and move pieces around as needed. Would a copy and paste function also be possible?
This is a great program already and it is still considered a beta. I am thankful for your willingness to go out of your way to accommodate my needs. I hope I didn't come off in that tone. This is the first program I have seen in development that I felt a need to support. If there is anything you need by way of testing, please do not hesitate to ask. I cannot contribute to your fund at this time but would like to offer my services for the time being. Thank you again for your quick response and even faster update.
-Dan
tC_Driver said:
Perfect!
The additions fit my needs and hopefully the needs of your other potential end users as well. The magnification is exactly what I was looking for. It gets me in far enough to change the image one pixel at a time. I can also confirm that your AA option works perfectly. You have no idea how thrilled I was to see that my device wasn't the problem and that it was capable of seeing a raw image with the proper setting. As of right now I can also confirm that the program works perfectly on my QVGA screen. There are a few more things I would like to request, I hope you do not mind.
-Eye-dropper tool: I use this hand in hand with the line tool to pull a color from the image or a shade chart and would love it if this tool was considered for future releases.
-Eraser tool: I wonder if there is a way to use the eraser tool in a manner similar to MSPaint. In MSPaint, with both a primary and secondary color selected, one could change the primary color in the image to the secondary color by holding the right mouse key while pressing the left key over the area in need of a color change. Could this be possible while holding a soft key at the same time the tool is run over an image? Just a thought.
-Selector tool: I use this in conjunction with a copy/paste function in MSPaint to select and move pieces around as needed. Would a copy and paste function also be possible?
This is a great program already and it is still considered a beta. I am thankful for your willingness to go out of your way to accommodate my needs. I hope I didn't come off in that tone. This is the first program I have seen in development that I felt a need to support. If there is anything you need by way of testing, please do not hesitate to ask. I cannot contribute to your fund at this time but would like to offer my services for the time being. Thank you again for your quick response and even faster update.
-Dan
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Hi Dan,
I will add your request to my to do list. The first two shouldn't be much difficult, but for the selector, I will have to spend sometime on it.
Menos,
This is an absolutely brilliant app.
Thank you very much.
Would it be possible to:
- improve a litle bit the drawing function (difficult to draw some real curves. It tends to make some lines instead of curves).
- propose more colors
- improve the quality of the Icon resolution.
Thanks. I really adore your app.
Amazing to see it's only a beta. There is so much potential in it.
PS, for the drawing part, I use PocketPicture ( http://sites.google.com/site/osdmsoftware/pocketpicture ). it's not bad. Maybe it can help to find some ideas.
Hi Guys,
Sorry for late reply, I was busy for some other stuff. Together with this post, I released the version 1.1, which has some improvement as stated in the change log.
I will have limited time to work on this app. Any comments are still welcome, but I cannot commit to work fast on them!
Wow! Very nice app! Thanks for your contribution!
Hi,
I installed the app, it installed fine on my HD2. I did run the program and it loaded nice, but when trying to open a image on my device, it was not responding at all, it even keeps freezing my device and a soft-reset is necessary.
I use the Energy ROm of 13 may the GTX version.
Greetings,
Birger
Birger said:
Hi,
I installed the app, it installed fine on my HD2. I did run the program and it loaded nice, but when trying to open a image on my device, it was not responding at all, it even keeps freezing my device and a soft-reset is necessary.
I use the Energy ROm of 13 may the GTX version.
Greetings,
Birger
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Hi Birger,
Have you tried to update the .NET CF? Here's the link from Microsoft: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3c6b-42f1-9fd9-0041345b3385&displaylang=en
when I see how my wife edits pics on her iPhone, THIS is what I need!
thankz!
Thanks ill try it
menos said:
Hi Birger,
Have you tried to update the .NET CF? Here's the link from Microsoft: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3c6b-42f1-9fd9-0041345b3385&displaylang=en
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I do have the latest .net CF (3.5). I have a lot of other apps using the .net without problem. It is also cooked in with the ROM. (Energy ROM; one of the best)
I have got the same prob as Birger has: freezing a.s.a. I press "open" to open a file.
I also have a HD2, with a custom ROM (MIRI v10, WwM6.5.x).
I'm sure I have the newest versions of .NET FW, since I installed the newest .NET FW version to solve the batt. draining issue of the newest version of advanced home tab from c0okiemonster...
Hope this can be solved, since I think I will like the app.

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