Windows Mobile 6.5 Beta made available to all MS employees - Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development

I ran across this over at http://www.uberphones.com and thought it might be of some interest. If this is against the rules, then I appologiize.
Windows Mobile 6.5 Beta For FTE
Story posted on: March 13, 2009, filed in: windows
Windows Mobile 6.5 Beta For FTE
News is filtering out to the Internet that Windows Mobile 6.5 has now been made available for Microsoft employees. With the new beta program in place, it’s speculated that the software will be Released To Manufacturers (RTM) pretty soon, hinting that we will actually be able to see Windows Mobile 6.5 handsets in Q3 2009 after all.

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Hello...I didn't see anything about Wm 6.5 on this website..
Peace
Mike

me either.

here is a direct link
http://www.uberphones.com/2009/03/windows_mobile_65_beta_for_fte/

It was there
Neowin reported on this claiming that site as well. I think they removed the post but here's the link to Neowin's.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/03/18/windows-mobile-65-beta-given-to-microsoft-employees

wow, good news indeed.
btw, what is WM6.5 anyway?

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WM 2003 SE sooner than expected?

From www.geekzone.co.nz
Dell is also ahead of the competition in terms of OS. These are the first
handhelds available to end users to run the recently announced Windows
Mobile 2003 Second Edition. This new version brings multiple screen
orientation (landscape and portrait), user defined font size, better
Pocket Internet Explorer and minor changes.
You can read more about the OS on this article and about the changes on
Pocket Internet Explorer on these two articles:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=2567 and
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=2558
Expect more devices to come with this new version soon. Last week I
attended a breakfast event run by Toshiba Australia/New Zealand and the
only time they talked about Pocket PC device was to let us know that they
will release an update for their current line of handhelds.
Users of i-mate Pocket PC Phone Edition should expect something soon, with rumours that these updates are already being tested by operators
(including here in New Zealand, by Vodafone).

Merging WM2005 With WM2003SE???

Guys that may be a stupid question , but has anyone thought of trying to merge the WM2005 With 2003se. That would be absolutely great. I was running 2003se for a while now, but After Trying the WM2005 I am totally dissapointed with the previous one. I just wish i had more knowledge of working with the bloody code. WM2005 is absolutely B-A-Utiful. tottaly love IT despite all the bugs it has. ...
from what i read about windows CE5 ak. mw2005 then it's one of the biggest steps for windows CE since 3 which was a world of difference over the earlier versions of CE
so i fear that it would be like trying to mix windows 3.11 and windows XP
it would be a nice idea, to get rid of ram problem with 2005.
2003se & 2005 merged realy a nice upgrade.

Windows 6.1 revised?

Was perusing my favorite mobile sites until I stumbled upon this here. Apparently the new Moto Q9s are coming with it. Nothing really major but just adds to the cool factor of 6.1.
Calling out all chefs and Moto Q9 owners: What are the chances of getting this ported over to our beloved HTC devices so we can play around with it?
Kinda reminds me of a green WM7 come to think of it
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/03/26/windows-mobile-61-part-2/
Was perusing my favorite mobile sites until I stumbled upon this here. Apparently the new Moto Q9s are coming with it. Nothing really major but just adds to the cool factor of 6.1.
Calling out all chefs and Moto Q9 owners: What are the chances of getting this ported over to our beloved HTC devices so we can play around with it?
Kinda reminds me of a green WM7 come to think of it
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/...ile-61-part-2/
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That is wm 6.1 standard (smartphone version). We use 6.1 professional (ppc version). It will not be ported.
yeah im honestly kinda pissed that MS put that much effort into the smartphone version but nothing into pocketpc. hopefully they can make up for it with WM7
the hell with windows anyway. linux ftw.
counting down the days till it runs on my titan
Mills00013 said:
counting down the days till it runs on my titan
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Then you will need more days to countdown waiting for useful software that runs on Linux then more days for fixing bugs. Afterwards, I'm ready to load it onto my Titan as well. Most likely it will about two or three generations after the Titan.
nemesis202 said:
Then you will need more days to countdown waiting for useful software that runs on Linux then more days for fixing bugs. Afterwards, I'm ready to load it onto my Titan as well. Most likely it will about two or three generations after the Titan.
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too bad, I bet it would be leaps and bounds over the MS stuff....all we need is WINE mobile right?
kmartburrito said:
too bad, I bet it would be leaps and bounds over the MS stuff....all we need is WINE mobile right?
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Haha, no way. The linux stuff works fairly well. I haven't used them in a while, but I have a few old iPAQs (non-phone pocket pcs) that ran familiar linux with the Opie user environment. Pretty sweet.
kmartburrito said:
too bad, I bet it would be leaps and bounds over the MS stuff....all we need is WINE mobile right?
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I can see it now:
Kid 1: "Check out my new phone, it plays bubble breaker, solitare, and I can install all sorts of great software."
Kid 2: <Slaps kid one> "Counter-strike. On my phone. The end."
kmartburrito said:
too bad, I bet it would be leaps and bounds over the MS stuff....all we need is WINE mobile right?
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I think Android is going to be great on these phones. The hardware is capable of running the OS... drivers may be a problem, but there are many talented people here who can overcome that.
Never been too impressed with the reporting by BGR, and this is no exception.
Almost none of the features he touts are actually part of WM6.1
* Support for AT&T’s Video Share - That is an AT&T Application, not part of Windows Mobile 6.1
* New thumbnail browsing - That is a known feature on WM6.1, folks running WM6.1 on the Titan already have it
* New Albums feature - I'm guessing another third party application, possibly Motorola??
* Send to your space (upload to your Windows Live account) - Windows Mobile Live, not the core OS
* Updated camera UI - Motorola App, since the camera software/hardware are not part of the core OS
* Updated home screen (more music and multimedia features) - just a redesigned theme, probably even runs on WM6.0
* TV out - hardware. There are other WM6.0 (and even 5.0) phones that support TV out
Really, pretty poor reporting. These are not "windows mobile 6.1 goodies", they are goodies that Motorola and ATT decided to add to the upgrade.
It's like Sprint adding SprintTV to a possible WM6.1 upgrade for the Titan and saying that SprintTV is part of WM6.1.

Pocket Informant has left WM

WebIS web site declares:
"We have end-of-lifed our Windows Mobile products. They are now free with no support."
Just feel sad about this declaration as PI has been linked to WM for such a long period of time.
I hear you. However the problem is, the heyday of their products on WM was over 2 years ago. I ran PI since 2003 - it was near darn perfect on WM2003 with 2-3 sec startup speed. Ever since WM5 and 10 sec start-up I stopped using any 3rd party calendar. And now that the market is rapidly shrinking, Alex made a smart choice and concentrated on iOS / Android, while making a very nice gesture towards his old WM customer base. Best of luck to him !
I'll post this quickly on pocketpcfreeware !
good luck to them
SBSH Calendar (non-touch) was never fixed for WM6.5
lawer said:
WebIS web site declares:
"We have end-of-lifed our Windows Mobile products. They are now free with no support."
Just feel sad about this declaration as PI has been linked to WM for such a long period of time.
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Since everyone has stopped developing for WM Standard (non-touch), we are some kind of Jurassic Park.
I am a SBSH Calendar (Papyrus, non-touch) fan - but they never fixed the Calendar to work with WM6.5!
It's a shame but understandable.
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?/t...eleased/page__pid__271661__st__15#entry271661
Giving PI9 away for free is a nice way to say goodbye!
Pocket Informant 9 now Freeware
Ummagumma said:
Alex made a smart choice and concentrated on iOS / Android, while making a very nice gesture towards his old WM customer base. Best of luck to him !
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That's a nice way of saying goodbye! That's really nice from him!
Here are all infos an how to get PI9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021055

The Future of Sense

Hi all,
What follows could be considered to be the ramblings of a lunatic however it is intended to provoke discussion and maybe some thought about where we (Sense users/fans) go from here. Personally I know I don't want to see Sense die off (I'm not planning on moving to Android or WinPho 7 any time soon, as you'll read) and my phone (HD2) is only a YEAR old!
The Future of Sense?
Many of us bought our HTC WinMo phones on the strength of Sense (henceforth referred to as Manila to differentiate it from its Android, and Windows Phone 7 "Hub", incarnations), which brought a compelling and attractive interface to ugly old WinMo. Judging by the amount of devices Manila has been (or has been requested to be) ported to it is still a compelling and attractive interface. However users and fans of Manila are now facing a dilemma; Manila is, in all probability reaching, if it hasn't already, the end of its (officially) developed life. Short of any previously unknown major bugs surfacing its not hard to imagine HTC now focusing all their efforts on Android and Windows Phone 7.
So where does this leave us, many of us who still have perfectly functioning phones, which often still have up-to-date hardware? We could, thanks to the guys (with very large brains) here on XDA developers, choose between Windows Phone 7 or Android to give our phones a new lease of life. However, personally (and I know I'm not the only one) I don't want to. Windows phone 7 doesn't appeal because of its lack of customisation (and copying of iOS on so many levels), and Android because of, well, Google! WinMo gives us the freedom to tinker, without the need of "jail breaking", which many of us love WinMo for. Manila is the icing on the cake... and everyone knows the icing is the best bit of the cake!
So where do we go from here?
Organise. Mobilise.
First off I don't want to take anything away from the (quite brilliant) people here on XDA Developers that have already managed (or facilitated others) to do some pretty amazing things with Manila, having extended it far beyond HTCs original scope. However despite all the hard work and effort that has gone into reverse engineering Manila there is still much that is unknown about it and parts we cannot change. If we wish to see Manila grow and develop (further than we already have), to keep our phones current, we need HTCs co-operation, we need the actual Manila source.
But why should HTC help us when they would probably rather us buy new phones? Well, HTC is a business and all good business' like a good deal. So, they've got something we want but what do we have to offer them in return? I believe that Manila has applications outside of Android and Windows Phone 7 (which HTC already have covered, so we can forget about them) so there is still one avenue left to us that we could attempt to try and tempt HTC with...
Swallow the Tablet!
At the moment the tablet market is dominated by iOS and Android but inevitably Microsoft will manage to muscle Windows into the tablet market. It managed it with phones (then, as we all know, lost its way) and more recently it managed to (almost completely) squeeze Linux out of the netbook market. At CES 2011 scores of Windows based tablets were unveiled from manufacturers such as Asus, Lenovo, Viliv and even Samsung! Microsofts desire to muscle its way into yet another market (tablets) with a full fat version of Windows is compounded by the fact that the next version of Windows (8) will support SoC architectures from Intel and ARM. Make no mistake; Whatever your views on the suitability of Windows for tablets, Windows tablets are coming and they will sell. However, lets not get too hung up on tablets, there are still millions upon millions (upon millions!) of PCs out there and sales of PCs are still strong.
But what does this have to do with Manila? Well, I believe Manila would make the perfect lightweight 3D widget engine for Windows and this is where our opportunity lies. HTC currently has a massive presence in smartphones and are now entering the tablet market (currently Android to begin with, but given their ties with Microsoft, in the past with Windows Mobile and now Windows Phone 7, it won't be long before they produce a full fat Windows tablet). However they do not (yet) have a presence, of any kind, on desktops and it is with this that we could tempt them. So, HTC get the opportunity to have a presence PC desktops worldwide and we get to extend the life of our phones that utilise Manila!
Don't forget the presence of "Sense" on the desktop would be a great marketing tool... people see the advertisements for Sense on the TV (as HTC are currently doing in the UK), they give it a try on their computer, like it, and may be inclined to buy a phone with Sense in the future. There are also the opportunities that "Sense" (Manila) on the desktop could tie in with Sense on phones.
To be continued...
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Not on a desktop
Sense is designed for touch interfaces. A desktop PC is better served by the current Windows 7 interface, in my opinion.
Sense is fine for tablets and other touch devices, in fact HTC just demoed a version for Android tablets.
stevedebi said:
Sense is designed for touch interfaces. A desktop PC is better served by the current Windows 7 interface, in my opinion.
Sense is fine for tablets and other touch devices, in fact HTC just demoed a version for Android tablets.
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I feel you've missed the point somewhat. Windows 7 is better suited to a desktop/laptop PC but even so Windows 7 is still being installed on tablets. What Windows 7 will need is a proper touch based interface to hide the largely finger unfriendly OS... Sound familiar? Like Windows Mobile and Sense perhaps?
Also, like I said in my first post, touchscreens are becoming more commonplace on desktop PCs (even in the home) so those too would benefit from a touch centric interface (and/or widget engine, as is being proposed).
Manila is being proposed as the base for that interface/engine not only because it is extremely lightweight and the similarities between Windows and Windows Mobile mean it shouldn't be too difficult to port (especially since it uses Lua), but because it will extend the life of our perfectly functioning and still up-to-date phones.

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