My Alltel branded Touch Pro keyboard went out this week, one week after the merger with Verizon was completed. Phone is under warranty. Yesterday I went in and Veizon said, "OK, no problem. We'll ship you a phone out second day air."
Now I read that the Verizon TP is WAY less capable (RAM-wise) than the Alltel model. Which one do you think I will get back? What rights, if any, do I have in this regard?
yeah you DONT want the verizon touch pro. Other than having much less ram and being painfully slow and buggy on any rom, the M key is placed in a weird position on the keyboard (look up the keyboard on google) and the frame is made complately of plastic. I had a friend who messed up his alltel touch pro and went into verizon and told them that he didnt want a much less capable phone and they let him trade it for a phone of equal value (he got the blackberry storm)
hope to GOD that you get the Alltel TP.
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Which one do you think I will get back?
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Whichever they want to send you.
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What rights, if any, do I have in this regard?
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None.
Sorry, but that is the way of the business world...
This is one of those cases where it would have behooved you to send the phone direct to HTC for warranty repair. You would have gotten the exact same phone back.
There seems to be a lot of confusion on various threads regarding the activation of a Sprint Touch Pro on Verizon lately. Has anyone done this in 2010 successfully? I would like to get a TP to use on Verizon, but I know the Sprint version is better. Thanks in advance!
They Don't Want To
If your a current customer you may be able to get them to agree to let you use a Alltel Touch Pro, which can be bought used or Brand New from sellers on ebay.
The Alltel unit is identical to the Sprint Touch Pro, except for the Rom and the ESN series.
Good Luck.
There are already enough threads dealing with this topic. Please use them rather than opening new ones. Thanks.
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If your a current customer you may be able to get them to agree to let you use a Alltel Touch Pro, which can be bought used or Brand New from sellers on ebay.
The Alltel unit is identical to the Sprint Touch Pro, except for the Rom and the ESN series.
Good Luck.
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Nice! I never heard that Alltel TP was the same as Sprint. That might be easier to activate since Verizon now owns Alltel! Now I just need to try to work it without a data plan! And using an Alltel phone on Verizon right now would use all of Verizon's towers, and Alltels combined, wouldn't it?
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There are already enough threads dealing with this topic. Please use them rather than opening new ones. Thanks.
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I've searched quite a bit, and can't seem to find any recent ones, so maybe this is no longer possible.
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I've searched quite a bit, and can't seem to find any recent ones, so maybe this is no longer possible.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540455
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670501
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536939
They may not have exactly your question, but the issue is the same "can I use a TP from x with y?"
Hey guys I've had my Galaxy S II for 2 months and just returned it to Amazon because it had some.scratches and because of a dead pixel (also because of.no warrenty in US-which isn't that big of a deal for me). Anyways, wondering if I should get the white unlocked one or an AT&T version for 200 dollars on contract. I'm leaning towards the unlocked white because :
1. It looks badass
2. It will have resell value if I get the Nexus Prime and want to return it
Normally I don't ask others for opinions but I'm just curious to hear some of your guys thoughts on this. Thanks in advance
I can't help you because that's the same exact thing I'm debating.
Not gonna lie, the white one does look awesome. Look here for the differences between the two models: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308155
But personally, if I had that much cash to spend on a phone, I'd get the Samsung Galaxy Note.
Just a reminder that FM Radio is absent in ATT version and if you care for FM, then opt out from ATT version!
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Just a reminder that FM Radio is absent in ATT version and if you care for FM, then opt out from ATT version!
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...No, we have the chip but it's not activated. Do your research first.
I have both, and I gave the white one to my GF (she loves it). I love the white but the chrome ring looks cheesy compared to the black version, which has a dark gunmetal colored ring. Also, i prefer the 4 soft keys over the physical key of the international version.
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...No, we have the chip but it's not activated. Do your research first.
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Okay I keep hearing different things in regards to the FM Radio. Some people say it's completely absent in the AT&T version and others are saying that it's there just deactivated through firmware. Can you confirm that the chip is actually there?
I was going to get white from bell Canada but decided to wait and spend the 650 on a 2012 model then sell the att gs2.
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I have both, and I gave the white one to my GF (she loves it). I love the white but the chrome ring looks cheesy compared to the black version, which has a dark gunmetal colored ring. Also, i prefer the 4 soft keys over the physical key of the international version.
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So the international white on works on at&t 4G, all the same frequencies?
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I'm in the same spot as you except I can still return my GS2 for a refund. Thing is even if I get a refund, my AT&T plan has already been changed to Smartphone (from iPhone) so would they now roll me back and remove unlimited? I could just eBay the phone but I've had bad experiences on there with thieves trying to do chargebacks two months after receiving the product.
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I'm in the same spot as you except I can still return my GS2 for a refund. Thing is even if I get a refund, my AT&T plan has already been changed to Smartphone (from iPhone) so would they now roll me back and remove unlimited? I could just eBay the phone but I've had bad experiences on there with thieves trying to do chargebacks two months after receiving the product.
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Thieves trying to do chargebacks? What do you mean? I'm about to sell a phone on eBay. Do you mean after they received it, 2 months later they try to get their money back on Paypal?
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If you see entropy's kernel, he has initially tried to add the kernel module for FM and it was spitting out errors and the errors were pointing to kinda 'no device found'. He ultimately removed this from the kernel.
There are other thread in this forum which details the stressed effort from our members contacting both samsung and ATT about this and samsung finally mentioned that ATT version has only internet radio. ATT has even taken this from their site. Details are here in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285486&page=6
Just to let you know, I have done my research before posting this
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So the international white on works on at&t 4G, all the same frequencies?
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Yep, works flawlessly
I'm posting this here because the Note II is a prime example, but we could also look to the Galaxy Nexus, which is two software versions behind and can't really even be called a Nexus at this point.
I helped my boss set up a Note II and was showing him some features I thought he would like. The first one was the "blocking mode" (do not disturb), which my AT&T model has, as does the International model. It was absent. It first, I thought I just wasn't seeing it or it was moved, but a google search confirmed my fears. I learned later that Verizon removed this because they have a competing service.
Then, I was looking for the S Planner widget (the full screen calendar version) because, as an executive, it was a good fit for him. It was also missing. I'm still baffled by that one.
There is also the branding, including the home button. Verizon seems to treat their phones like Stock Cars these days. The bloat, the missing features (HTC Hub on HTC devices), the numerous modifications, etc.
AT&T is far from perfect. They put a lot of bloat on their phones. But out of all of the Android phones I have bought in the last few years (since they restored "unknown Sources"), I have not noticed them actually removing a lot of features. They did remove screen modes from their version of the GSIII, which was confusing, but otherwise they have just been content with adding bloat that you can disable.
I know Verizon has great coverage, but does it ever really bother you that they remove/modify so much functionality on the phone? Sound off in my poll. I'm curious if I'm the only one who hates Verizon for this. To me, it wouldn't even feel like my phone. It would feel like Verizon's.
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Removed features (blocking mode, S Planner Widget)
Nascar envy (Logos everywhere)
Severely delayed updates
It sucks but what you gonna do, you know? It's VZW.
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Use to bother me until I learned to unlock and root. Had the gnex prior to the GN II and actually forgot what stock was like until I had to re lock and unroot to sell it. Forgot how limited the phone was.
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Use to bother me until I learned to unlock and root. Had the gnex prior to the GN II and actually forgot what stock was like until I had to re lock and unroot to sell it. Forgot how limited the phone was.
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Doesn't it say something when the first thing you have to do with your new phone is root it and install your own software, though?
I just bought an Optimus G from AT&T. It had a lot of bloat, but I disabled it all and I'm happy with it otherwise. At least all of the intended features are there.
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I'm posting this here because the Note II is a prime example, but we could also look to the Galaxy Nexus, which is two software versions behind and can't really even be called a Nexus at this point.
I helped my boss set up a Note II and was showing him some features I thought he would like. The first one was the "blocking mode" (do not disturb), which my AT&T model has, as does the International model. It was absent. It first, I thought I just wasn't seeing it or it was moved, but a google search confirmed my fears. I learned later that Verizon removed this because they have a competing service.
Then, I was looking for the S Planner widget (the full screen calendar version) because, as an executive, it was a good fit for him. It was also missing. I'm still baffled by that one.
There is also the branding, including the home button. Verizon seems to treat their phones like Stock Cars these days. The bloat, the missing features (HTC Hub on HTC devices), the numerous modifications, etc.
AT&T is far from perfect. They put a lot of bloat on their phones. But out of all of the Android phones I have bought in the last few years (since they restored "unknown Sources"), I have not noticed them actually removing a lot of features. They did remove screen modes from their version of the GSIII, which was confusing, but otherwise they have just been content with adding bloat that you can disable.
I know Verizon has great coverage, but does it ever really bother you that they remove/modify so much functionality on the phone? Sound off in my poll. I'm curious if I'm the only one who hates Verizon for this. To me, it wouldn't even feel like my phone. It would feel like Verizon's.
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Removed features (blocking mode, S Planner Widget)
Nascar envy (Logos everywhere)
Severely delayed updates
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Going off of your list, because yeah it was tl;dr:
Splanner widget might just be broken (its in the rom). Blocking mode doesn't work on Verizon (afaik).
Logos do suck. Samsung is slow on updates already.
Also, I compiled 4.2.1 for my Gnex. I still call it a Nexus.
You know what, I use to be a strong and proud supporter of VZW. I've been with this company for over 10 years now and over the last 5 years i have progressively become more and more displeased with my service. Yes there coverage is the best in the nation. However, in my case i live in NJ, all 4 major cell phone providers cover the entire state of NJ. I hardly ever leave this state unless its going to one of the surrounding cities (NYC PHL DC) and those places are all covered by all major cellphone providers.
With all the limitations VZW puts on the phones, I do believe I will be changing carriers in 2 years (as i just upgraded both my lines tot he note 2). As of now, i want to kick my own butt for upgrading/extending my contract i should of switched when i had the chance.
I get what your saying and it pissed me off on those same exact points. I decided to live with it because I would have rooted for other mods anyway eventually, but probably not as fast. I couldn't wait to get the note 2 and decided to upgrade instead of waiting a few months and going to another carrier. Since this phone is worldwide I'm not worried about updates. I just won't be waiting for Verizon. I think I'll be content for longer with this phone and when I want the next big thing I'll wait till my contract is completely up and switch carriers. Sprint just got lte here so maybe it will be mature in a couple years.
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Do you hate what AT&T does to your phones? My phone came with multi-window and didn't need to wait for an update to enable it. Maybe you should go complain to AT&T for not giving you multi-window at launch.
S-Planner, as mentioned is in the ROM, but not functional, and blocking mode, even when enabled, doesn't work. It's entirely possible that with an OTA, S-Planner will be fixed. Blocking mode may be network related. You know, since AT&T is GSM and Verizon is CDMA, but I doubt you've given that any thought.
Also, delayed updates? Yes, the Nexus has delayed updates, but it is still ahead of most other devices. Also, how long does AT&T take to update phones? You don't have a lot of room to talk there because they aren't so great in that department themselves. How long did the Infuse 4G take to get Gingerbread?
Does it suck, a little bit, but it's nothing to go and create a whining post about, especially if you don't even own the phone.
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Do you hate what AT&T does to your phones? My phone came with multi-window and didn't need to wait for an update to enable it. Maybe you should go complain to AT&T for not giving you multi-window at launch.
S-Planner, as mentioned is in the ROM, but not functional, and blocking mode, even when enabled, doesn't work. It's entirely possible that with an OTA, S-Planner will be fixed. Blocking mode may be network related. You know, since AT&T is GSM and Verizon is CDMA, but I doubt you've given that any thought.
Also, delayed updates? Yes, the Nexus has delayed updates, but it is still ahead of most other devices. Also, how long does AT&T take to update phones? You don't have a lot of room to talk there because they aren't so great in that department themselves. How long did the Infuse 4G take to get Gingerbread?
Does it suck, a little bit, but it's nothing to go and create a whining post about, especially if you don't even own the phone.
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Okay, you need to chill out. This isn't a "Verizon vs AT&T" thread. I acknowledged that AT&T was far from perfect. It is my opinion, however, that Verizon has been much worse in this area lately. My experience being based on several years of service with both providers.
My role in my company puts me in a unique position to use phones from all of the carriers, so yes, I do have room to talk. I also have years of experience in mobility. I'm not "whining". I was asking for feedback from the community.
I suggest you check your attitude. This thread wasn't a personal attack against you or any other Verizon customer.
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Okay, you need to chill out. This isn't a "Vegas rizon vs AT&T" thread. I acknowledged that AT&T was far from perfect. It is my opinion, however, that Verizon has been much worse in this area lately. My experience being based on several years of service with both providers.
My role in my company puts me in a unique position to use phones from all of the carriers, so yes, I do have room to talk. I also have years of experience in mobility. I'm not "whining". I was asking for feedback from the community.
I suggest you check your attitude. This thread wasn't a personal attack against you or any other Verizon customer.
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At least Verizon has never disabled sideloading. Carriers suck. All of them.
My post wasn't a personal attack, and really has the same basic tone as your OP. Your OP is essentially "VZW sux, let's all go to AT&T", I'm pointing out that AT&T isn't really all that much better, but you don't see people coming into AT&T forums and saying "AT&T sux, lets go to VZW". You pointed out a bunch of faults with Verizon, but seem to forget issues with AT&T. Their track record for OTA updates isn't that much better than VZW, significantly worse in some instances. How about network coverage? They do a good job of screwing their users on plans and plan features too. Your phone supports video chat over cellular, but your data plan doesn't. How is that different from removing/limiting software? Maybe I'll go create a thread in the AT&T Note 2 forum to voice all my complaints with AT&T service then...
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My post wasn't a personal attack, and really has the same basic tone as your OP. Your OP is essentially "VZW sux, let's all go to AT&T", I'm pointing out that AT&T isn't really all that much better, but you don't see people coming into AT&T forums and saying "AT&T sux, lets go to VZW". You pointed out a bunch of faults with Verizon, but seem to forget issues with AT&T. Their track record for OTA updates isn't that much better than VZW, significantly worse in some instances. How about network coverage? They do a good job of screwing their users on plans and plan features too. Your phone supports video chat over cellular, but your data plan doesn't. How is that different from removing/limiting software? Maybe I'll go create a thread in the AT&T Note 2 forum to voice all my complaints with AT&T service then...
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No, YOU INTERPRETED my thread as "VZW sux, let's all go to AT&T". You should probably take a moment to recognize that.
I'm not advocating for any carrier. I would prefer unlocked devices, if not for the lack of LTE. When AT&T had side-loading blocked, I hated them for it and yes, the Facetime over Cellular was a dik move, too.
But I also love Smartphones and these days, AT&T does much less damage to the device than Verizon (T-Mobile and Sprint treat them the best) and it's something I'm hoping that AT&T doesn't suddenly decide is okay (again).
Getting my hands on the Verizon Note II really drove it all home for me, thus my post here in the Verizon Note forums asking how other users felt about it.
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In regards to this list
Dont care cause I wouldnt use these things.
the home button logo is annoying
AOSP roms are better than stock anyway.
Coverage and reliability of the network far outweigh the downside of an annoying logo. I wanted to switch to Tmobile cause of their pricing but tried a month and coverage was simply not good enough. Friends in my area that have ATT and Sprint complain about coverage all the time. In the end I agree with Adryn. All the carriers blow donkey. For me the least of the evils is VZW.
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No, YOU INTERPRETED my thread as "VZW sux, let's all go to AT&T". You should probably take a moment to recognize that.
I'm not advocating for any carrier. I would prefer unlocked devices, if not for the lack of LTE. When AT&T had side-loading blocked, I hated them for it and yes, the Facetime over Cellular was a dik move, too.
But I also love Smartphones and these days, AT&T does much less damage to the device than Verizon (T-Mobile and Sprint treat them the best) and it's something I'm hoping that AT&T doesn't suddenly decide is okay (again).
Getting my hands on the Verizon Note II really drove it all home for me, thus my post here in the Verizon Note forums asking how other users felt about it.
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I interpreted your post to be the same as Imnuts mentioned.
So either your worded it poorly, or there is something in the water.
Clearly you are angry at Verizon and felt the need to vent. Yeah, I am not too pleased with them as well, but so be it. You make it sound like everything is a constant measured response to screw people. Blocking Mode wasn't blocked because of a competing service. It just doesn't work. Do you ask Samsung to recode it to be removed, or just hide it? I doubt they cared. They just told Samsung to deal with it. You can bring it back. It doesn't work on Verizon though. Splanner widget is probably an oversight, and time will tell.
HTC Hub isn't on devices because they SHUT DOWN THE SERVICE. https://www.htcsense.com/
Otherwise, who knows, maybe it would be there on future devices. That service too didn't entirely work right on Verizon and was very limited to the devices it supported everywhere else.
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No, YOU INTERPRETED my thread as "VZW sux, let's all go to AT&T". You should probably take a moment to recognize that.
I'm not advocating for any carrier. I would prefer unlocked devices, if not for the lack of LTE. When AT&T had side-loading blocked, I hated them for it and yes, the Facetime over Cellular was a dik move, too.
But I also love Smartphones and these days, AT&T does much less damage to the device than Verizon (T-Mobile and Sprint treat them the best) and it's something I'm hoping that AT&T doesn't suddenly decide is okay (again).
Getting my hands on the Verizon Note II really drove it all home for me, thus my post here in the Verizon Note forums asking how other users felt about it.
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Sorry bro but I'm not sure this thread was necessary, and it was obviously not well received. Stick to the forums that have to do with your device.
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Sorry bro but I'm not sure this thread was necessary, and it was obviously not well received. Stick to the forums that have to do with your device.
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I'm not sure your post was necessary, either. How about if I just post where I want, mmkay?
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I'm not sure your post was necessary, either. How about if I just post where I want, mmkay?
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I'm reminded of a book....
How to Win Friends & Influence People
I'm thinking about going vzw and get a note 2... Or should I go att? :/
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I'm not sure your post was necessary, either. How about if I just post where I want, mmkay?
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I think his post did seem necessary since you don't seem to get it. You point out good things about Att and trashed VZW. So others did the opposite. Everyone seems to have read your post that way. Perhaps you need to learn how to articulate your thoughts better.
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I think his post did seem necessary since you don't seem to get it. You point out good things about Att and trashed VZW. So others did the opposite. Everyone seems to have read your post that way. Perhaps you need to learn how to articulate your thoughts better.
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Yeah, because the way everyone READ my post (I'm pretty sure you mean "interpreted") is my fault. I can't control when Verizon fanboys decide to be defensive. I posted a neutral poll with feedback from my experiences. I'm not the one trolling here. I suppose it's just easier to troll than to actually read my post and think for yourself.
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I see one on Amazon. Doesn't really say who the seller is. But one post by a reviewer about using in U.S. said this:
I bought an International unlocked version. You can use in the USA with either T-Mobile and AT&T.
The only catch is the Huawei IMEI is not a known phone, at least by AT&T, so it only would come up as a vanilla GSM phone, maxing out at 3.5G speeds.
To get it activated at a full 4G LTE phone, you'd want to move a SIM card over from a registered AT&T 4G LTE (modern) phone, then port your number over.
But then it works perfectly well, as good as any official AT&T phone.
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So, I"m not sure about the move SIM card over and port number. Seems to me if I pull the SIM from my Note 9, I'd then not need to port a number. Thoughts?
Also, I'm concerned about getting one with the green edge problem. There's no warranty in the U.S. (Seems Huawei should warranty anyway...albeit with the problem of sending it over there).
I use T-Mobile, so can't help directly. I'm pretty sure I just used the same sim card (it was back in November). The prices on Amazon are a lot better now than they were then! Great phone, lack of warranty notwithstanding.
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.
I guess my main stumbling block right now is concern that I'd get one with the green screen problem.
I supposed I could fall back to the Mate 20. I understand it doesn't have that problem.
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Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.
I guess my main stumbling block right now is concern that I'd get one with the green screen problem.
I supposed I could fall back to the Mate 20. I understand it doesn't have that problem.
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the green screen problem is a bit overexxagerated imo....... it's not like u'll be looking at an empty black screen on minimal brightness all the time. i'm using the BOE screen which doesn't have this issue and i have a colleague who got the problematic LG one and frankly i don't see what the fuss is about. his screen looks better tho in normal usage scenarios
Thanks for that seat and back. Makes me feel a little better should I get one like that.
I'm not surprised to hear that, as that what happens, people like me read about it and then think it's worse than it probably is.
I did just find this video on YouTube which does show the green screen edge and gives you a good feel for what it's like. Definitely doesn't look like something a person would desire to have.