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i was gonna unlock my 8525 via pof's unlocker and downgrade solution when i read this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1062526&postcount=7 I then figured it wouldnt hurt to just called cingular and see if they would give me the unlock code...i placed a call to cingular's international department and get them to send me the unlock code in less then 12 hours by telling them i was planning to go on a trip out of the country on sunday and what is the soonest i could get the code..i then acted like i didnt know anything about getting a phone unlocked and he recommended that i place international roaming on my phone yada yada yada..... i declined and asked if i would still be able to roam while out of the country.. he said yes... i said thats fine.. but i would also like to have the phone unlocked incase i would like to buy a sim and use it for making local calls in the country that i will be in.. he said sure no problem... he submitted a request and in less then 12 hours i had the unlock code in my mailbox... i hope this helps anyone on cingular trying to unlock there phone with no modding...
now the second part of this thread is relating to the bootloader versions.. now i know that my bootloader is 1.6.. is it necessary for me to still use pof's method in combination with the downgrade in order to supercid unlock my phone in order to flash the rom with different hermes roms even tho' my phones sim is unlocked....is it possible to use pof's file to supercid unlock and then reflash back the same radio with no patch and same cingular rom to have the phone back to fully stock out of the box with the exception of having it be fully unlocked with the sim and sid..... also.. .is the same necessary for flashing the radio with different versions??..from what i understand you can "unhind the ext roms to see them but not activate themm.. and in order to use the features in the extended roms do i need to be supercid unlocked in order to unlock the ext.roms??i have fit4cat tweaker installed already and it makes the changes making me feel like i am accessing the ext.rom features already... and if so when i cid unlock my phone can i just pick and chose the .cabs to install from the different options on the different roms... .. i am not in an area that supports Edge .. but when i am will it display so on my screen with a E? or is that a mod i will need to do as well.. and i also see a feature in fit4cat that enables hsdpa.. i thought my phone would default using the connectin if it was available.. am i wrong.. and the ptt hack that someone on this forum created as a .cabs.. do i need to have it supercid ulocked to use that as well...
im sorry if alot of you have answered these questions time and time again.. i have really tried to answer my own questions for the last 8 hours or so with reading the forums and wiki's.. after a while it becomes a blur...
Ps. when using mtty.exe and i hook it up following exact settings and instructions when it connects it says CLIENTCLIENT then i hit the I to type info and i get CLIENT again.. no prompt.. ??help<< i was not in bootloader mode...oops.. it worked fine after i placed it in bootloader mode
thanks in advance
Abe
honestabe said:
now i know that my bootloader is 1.6.. is it necessary for me to still use pof's method in combination with the downgrade in order to supercid unlock my phone in order to flash the rom with different hermes roms even tho' my phones sim is unlocked....
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Yes, you need to patch the radio to CID-Unlock. It doesn't matter if the phone is SIM-Locked or not. This needs bootloader 1.04, you can have it by flashing cingular's 1.30 rom.
honestabe said:
is it possible to use pof's file to supercid unlock and then reflash back the same radio with no patch and same cingular rom to have the phone back to fully stock out of the box with the exception of having it be fully unlocked with the sim and sid..... also.. .is the same necessary for flashing the radio with different versions??
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Yes, it is possible but you need to downgrade your bootloader to 1.04 for this, otherwise you won't be able to flash any radio (patched or not).
honestabe said:
from what i understand you can "unhind the ext roms to see them but not activate themm.. and in order to use the features in the extended roms do i need to be supercid unlocked in order to unlock the ext.roms??i have fit4cat tweaker installed already and it makes the changes making me feel like i am accessing the ext.rom features already... and if so when i cid unlock my phone can i just pick and chose the .cabs to install from the different options on the different roms...
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You need to have a SuperCID phone in order to UNLOCK the extrom, this means WRITE to it (i.e. delete cab files you don't need and use it as storage space, or put signed cab files from other ExtROM). If your Hermes is not SuperCID you'll be able to unhide it, but will not be able to unlock it.
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i am not in an area that supports Edge .. but when i am will it display so on my screen with a E? or is that a mod i will need to do as well..
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It will not display "E", and the previous hack used in HTC Wizard for this doesn't work on Hermes. It displays "G" if you are under GPRS or EDGE coverage and "U" or "3G" if you are under UMTS/3G or HSDPA coverage.
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and i also see a feature in fit4cat that enables hsdpa.. i thought my phone would default using the connectin if it was available.. am i wrong..
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Cingular ROMs have HSDPA enabled by default, you don't need to use that option from fit4cat hermes tweaker (it won't hurt if you do it), but it is there because not all roms have HSDPA enabled by default.
honestabe said:
and the ptt hack that someone on this forum created as a .cabs.. do i need to have it supercid ulocked to use that as well...
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No, you don't need SuperCID to use this.
honestabe said:
im sorry if alot of you have answered these questions time and time again.. i have really tried to answer my own questions for the last 8 hours or so with reading the forums and wiki's.. after a while it becomes a blur...
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ALL I answered is in the wiki, but probably explained in a bad way because I am not english native speaker, I would be very glad if you EDIT the wiki and explain it better/clearer than it is, so other people like you can understand it next time they read.
one more question... if i flash back to the cingular rom that is a 1.6 bootloader after i have done this whole process am i still able to flash to whatever i want providing that i have flashed from 1.6 to 1.4 unlocked sim and supercid previously.. basically does this flash the cidlock back on it.. or must i keep the bootloader in 1.4 in order to keep flashing roms
On another note.. i read these forums all night for the first time and i want to tell you Pof that you are the most helpful person i have ever come across on ANY forum board and the xda members are lucky to have you here... also extremely intelligent... thanks
extremely grateful
Abe
The main reason to SuperCID your Hermes is to be able to flash "whatever" rom you like, without having to bother with bootloader versions. If you use SIM & CID unlocker v2a to make your Hermes SuperCID it will be SuperCID forever, so the CID lock will not be back anymore.
Basically, after your device is SuperCID you only need to go back to bootloader 1.04 if you want to be able to flash extracted radio-upgrade only, as this is not possible with other bootloader versions.
is the patch u put in the radio overwritten when i apply a new rom???
the radio file is included in the rom you flash right?
or you can just find the radio file and flash that alone??
does the radio flash require it to be hooked via active synch or dissable
i have gotten Error 120 country id error twice now trying to flash ur radio flash.. any advice?
i should be outa noob questions shortly..
thank you again
if all goes well(im in the process of this whole precedure as i type...30% now) i shall write this in the wiki in n00b language...
honestabe said:
is the patch u put in the radio overwritten when i apply a new rom???
the radio file is included in the rom you flash right?
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Yes and yes
honestabe said:
or you can just find the radio file and flash that alone??
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Yes, see wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
honestabe said:
does the radio flash require it to be hooked via active synch or dissable
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It doesn't really matter, as the RUU will kill activesync anyway, but I always recommend to disable activesync and start the update from bootloader mode (tri-color screen).
honestabe said:
i have gotten Error 120 country id error twice now trying to flash ur radio flash.. any advice?
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Follow all the instructions, read and read
honestabe said:
if all goes well(im in the process of this whole precedure as i type...30% now) i shall write this in the wiki in n00b language...
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Thanks, that would be great!
And good luck with the flashing
presto everything is working fine all done..
when it gave me the error i just closed the flash and restarted it...(just like what it said to do in the "if your having problems flashing post"
ran ur unlocker supercid program.. and voila
anyway.. ill write up somethin real user friendly..
thanks again Pof
-abe
Hey abe,
thanks for the tip on getting my phone unlocked...It worked like a charm.
Which is better? I don't want to mod my phone that much, and like to stick with retail roms....thanks
MakaveliReturns said:
Which is better? I don't want to mod my phone that much, and like to stick with retail roms....thanks
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Then leave, no offense.
If you don't want to mod it, then take what your provider gave you and be happy. If not, then download some commercial applications.
But if you want to improve your phone, and make it realize it's full potential, then you are gonna have to get in to some mods.
Sorry mate, I'm just fed up with all the "how do I make my phone neato keano" questions from people.
It takes some willingness to experiment, some computer know how, and 99 times out of 100 all will be well. (BTW, I'm the one out of the hundred, I totally bricked one).
Retail ROMS, no such thing, you can't buy em.
Heh, jeez man, you seem to make alot of assumptions based on no information.
I am very computer literate, and I am passing down my phone to somebody else who has no clue how to do this stuff and probably does not care for it either.
I had a cooked ROM on it, but went back to a retail SPL and installed the retail AT&T (Beta?) WM6 Rom on my 8525.
Seriously though, you shouldn't assume such things about people especially over the internet.
The key benefit to HardSPL is that it protects accidental overwrite of SPL & IPL. Basically, it protects against bricking the phone. If it were me, I would always keep HardSPL, even if I were running a retail ROM. It really only affords protection during flashing process, so if you are not going to flash anything, you really don't need it - kinda like wearing a condom whike you aren't having sex, I guess. However, unlike the condom example, when you do decide to flash again, you would have to put HardSPL on there, which is itself a flashing process, so you would be vulnerable.
Always practice safe flashing!
Thanks, Todd.
I think you already answered about this in the other thread...but not yet. I can't get a retail ROM to install without extracting it first..even on SPL-Retail
lol i remember when i got my x01ht... i wanted to keep it softbank and just have this sexy phone from japan.... I read japanese so that wouldnt have been a problem and I am moving back to japan next year, so I thought it was perfect.
I had to unlock it using a code (which worked after flashing to hardspl 1.10 and then back to hardspl 2.10), but softbank still had that stupid welcome.exe issue. So i flashed to HTC's WM6 wwe rom. No more 'neato keano' for me.
Then i discovered letsjapan and ime3_1qvga (whatever its called)... I can have my japanese functionality with an english rom!! w00t.
Then i discovered schaps... I am so far from neato keano... but still barely breaking the surface.
I know this story is pointless, but if anyone is reading this with the 'neato keano' idea... get real, try some stuff and you will never go back (unless for warranty purposes ).
MakaveliReturns said:
Thanks, Todd.
I think you already answered about this in the other thread...but not yet. I can't get a retail ROM to install without extracting it first..even on SPL-Retail
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Is your phone CID unlocked? Maybe you have a mismatched CID. HardSPL bypasses the CID check, retail does not.
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Is your phone CID unlocked? Maybe you have a mismatched CID. HardSPL bypasses the CID check, retail does not.
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Hi Todd,
my phone is unlocked via a code from AT&T, so I didn't use any of the tools found on this forum. So I think it is still SuperCIDed??
The updater just crashes, I posted a screenshot in the other thread. If I extract the directory and run the RUU by itself it flashes fine.
Maybe because I am trying to flash the same ROM again on top of the same one??
MakaveliReturns said:
Hi Todd,
my phone is unlocked via a code from AT&T, so I didn't use any of the tools found on this forum. So I think it is still SuperCIDed??
The updater just crashes, I posted a screenshot in the other thread. If I extract the directory and run the RUU by itself it flashes fine.
Maybe because I am trying to flash the same ROM again on top of the same one??
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Well, the code almost certainly would not superCID your phone. Only remove the SIM lock. The RUU is checking the CID restriction on the phone and disallowing the flash. The only flash that would work without unpacking is the one intended for and released by your carrier - AT&T rom to AT&T rom, for example. As I mentioned, the reason unpacking works is because Oli's RUU bypasses the CID check. Does seem odd that the same ROM won't flash though...
i bought my phone unlocked from the 3 mobile network UK. i
it had build 2.73.771.62 CL#80033 release-keys
first question, can i root this as is? many guides say to downgrade but none of the ruus seem to be compatible. cid errors.
second, which ruus can i downgrade to anyway? it has to be an original 3 mobile rom right?
third, which was the first available 3 mobile build.
last, im i screwed wrt rooting?
EDIT:
adb devices lists my hero, however, fastboot doesnt. this means it cant be rooted as is right?
does the CID error mean i didnt do the goldcard method correctly? i was worried when i had a letter in my cid generation after cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc1/mmc1:*/cid
H3G released their first Rom this week. Prior to this were pre installed.
To root yours follow Goldcard method or this one>>>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559613
Treat it as though you have flashed rom currently running in your Hero.
im more comfortable doing the goldcard method.
using goldcard, is it ok to have a letter in the cid? cos i have one and fear thats the reason mine isnt working. we're working with hex so alphabets are ok, ignore.
also, which ruu do you recommend i use to downgrade.
btw, what do you mean by "treat it as though you have flashed rom currently in you hero" you mean like i have upgraded it already?
thanks.
Yes if you are following second option. But ignore what I stated. Personally I am more comfortable with non goldcard therory simply because you could be near complition and getting frustrated only to find that your cd card is at fault.
There have been several cases of sd card let down.
mine seems to be letting me down too. ive used the stock and some other samsung card. cid errors still. btw, what allocation size im i to use to format? or is formatting with the phone ok.
ended up trying flashrec .. backup failed.
installing the patched recovery image didnt work either, new hboot.
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so i cant install the patched recovery image because of the new hboot
which is because of the build im running on, so my only option is installing a previous build to get the old hboot
but 3 mobiles earliest build is 2.73.771.62 ... which is what im using
so i have to install a build from another network, hence need to goldcard ... which seems to be failing
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^^ correct above if im wrong ^^
i think im going to cry. i cant use my phone until i do this cos i cant imagine setting everything up again.
what do you advise?
I think according to post #23 it is possible to root.
Anybody successfully rooted his/her Hero from 3 network? How did you manage to do it? Possible to give some guides to member arimozuki??
Thanks.
OMG! finally done ... thanks for all your help!
i was randomly looking at my friends 5800, asked for his 8gb card, plugged in, goldcarded and downgrade worked!!! w00t. but this was a week ago; needless to say, my phone is not a virgin anymore ... alot of rape
thanks much.
I know the thread is old but I would just like to add the Hero on 3 can now be rooted using Androot, which allows you to avoid the goldcard method. Was able to root, flash a recovery image, backup and put a new rom on with minimal fuss
Hey y'all. There should be two radios now. The T-Mobile and the Tellus. Wind should have another radio altogether. Could the powers that be please pull radio.img files and start up a quick guide on how to unlock the boot loader and flash radios. I am happy to contribute, but I'm new to HTC. I am running a T mobile phone on a Canadian network - I assume that a radio designed for here would work better (wrong or right).
My Baseband is 1.07.550L.04DC_20.64.550L.07D
Thanks.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you have to have s-off to be able to flash a radio?
I flashed radios on my 3g slide and didn't have s - off
correct me if im wrong but if its an official radio, ex- signed update - s-off is there to check if its got official signature, it should be allowed to flash
I don't know much about HTC. I owned a nexus S and flashed a few radios with fastboot and adb. It helped alot through the search bug issue.
I see this full roms availble now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335703
The question is what will happen if I flash another providers ROM on top of my fully stock T-Mobile. The guide suggests that you just copy it onto an SD card on a fully locked phone and Voila. There doesn't seem to be an indication of someone switching ROM's ie. Tmobile to Wind. There are a few that tried the Telus Rom but no indication that it's worked for anyone yet.
FSean said:
I don't know much about HTC. I owned a nexus S and flashed a few radios with fastboot and adb. It helped alot through the search bug issue.
I see this full roms availble now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335703
The question is what will happen if I flash another providers ROM on top of my fully stock T-Mobile. The guide suggests that you just copy it onto an SD card on a fully locked phone and Voila. There doesn't seem to be an indication of someone switching ROM's ie. Tmobile to Wind. There are a few that tried the Telus Rom but no indication that it's worked for anyone yet.
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I'm pretty sure you have to have SuperCID to flash another carrier's ROM, and you can't get that without full radio S-Off. The current HTC unlock method doesn't allow us to flash radio images, as well as other little things like splash screens. Until full S-Off is achieved, I don't think we'll be able to do any radio switching.
So would a carrier be able flash their ROM onto a phone - ie. walk into my provider and have them flash their software and CID information onto the phone - or better yet - could HTC theoretically change my CID information directly?
Trying to root and sim unlock my sprint htc evo design for use on tmobile, ive googled it and found a few articles saying that sprint phones use cdma and not gsm, however this phone has a slot for a sim card. is there any way to use this phone on t-mobile with one of their sims? if so how do i go about it. if this is in the wrong forum my apologies.
thanks in advance
i repeat... this sprint phone has a sim card slot
That sim card slot is for worldwide capabilities. There may be a way to unlock it but you need to look in the correct forum as stated above.
Hit the thanks button!
frunas80 said:
Trying to root and sim unlock my sprint htc evo design for use on tmobile, ive googled it and found a few articles saying that sprint phones use cdma and not gsm, however this phone has a slot for a sim card. is there any way to use this phone on t-mobile with one of their sims? if so how do i go about it. if this is in the wrong forum my apologies.
thanks in advance
i repeat... this sprint phone has a sim card slot
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Hey bud, I just finished creating a flash zip for supersu 1.69 and busybox 1.21.1. Just go to this link "click me - I'm a link" to get the download. Its in the HTC One Sv forum but my girl has the same phone as you because I was the one who gave it to her. Root works and I also provide source code so anyone can see what exactly it is doing before they even decide to use it. All you need to do is download a custom recovery for your phone then go into fastboot and boot the custom recovery using the command
Code:
fastboot boot customrecovery.img
The name of the image will be whatever you name it. I recommend customrecovery.img.
You want to boot it vice flashing so you can do a complete backup of your device. Afterwards, go ahead and flash the customrecovery:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery customrecovery.img
The initial backup will even backup and preserve your original stock recovery.img. You need the custom recovery in order to flash the zip from your sdcard.
Anyways, I am familiar with your phone so if you need help just pm me.
bigdaddy619 said:
Yes this is the wrong forum this is the Evo 4G LTE forum ask a mod to move it to the correct forum
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XDA has no forum for this device [to move it to].
Root won't help. One must unlock the sim. I did it w/ a hardware tool [riffbox]; probably other methods will work as well.
Rob
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SIM unlock riffbox
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XDA has no forum for this device [to move it to].
Root won't help. One must unlock the sim. I did it w/ a hardware tool [riffbox]; probably other methods will work as well.
Rob
Sent from my HTCEVODesign4G using Tapatalk
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Rob!!! You have unlocked the SIM for HTC Evo Design to use on domestic-to-USA GSM? I would LOVE to know more about that. I've looked all over the place. There's another user name lechen that has also been trying to get it to work. Sprint tells me its unlocked but it won't work with domestic GSM. With freedomPop and Boost using this phone there must be a way to get the SIM to work in the USA.
US GSM
MaggiesStreak said:
Rob!!! You have unlocked the SIM for HTC Evo Design to use on domestic-to-USA GSM? I would LOVE to know more about that. I've looked all over the place. There's another user name lechen that has also been trying to get it to work. Sprint tells me its unlocked but it won't work with domestic GSM. With freedomPop and Boost using this phone there must be a way to get the SIM to work in the USA.
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Yep. fairly easily yet difficult if you don't have the right equipment. You have to unlock sim [if locked] as previously mentioned and set Carrier ID or CID to 11111111 from SPC___03 [or whatever it is]. With Sprint set as the Carrier ID, they control the provisioning and can restrict GSM to non US carriers; with super CID as it's sometimes called, you are the boss of your phone. Any carrier can provision. Problem lies in that this data [the CID flag] lies in mmcblk07 which is read only memory; so, you have to do some pretty drastic stuff [disassemble phone, short the test point, hook it up to your riffbox, and then write that data]. I unfortunately don't know a way around that. Hope that helps.
Regards,
Rob
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Yep. fairly easily yet difficult if you don't have the right equipment. You have to unlock sim [if locked] as previously mentioned and set Carrier ID or CID to 11111111 from SPC___03 [or whatever it is]. With Sprint set as the Carrier ID, they control the provisioning and can restrict GSM to non US carriers; with super CID as it's sometimes called, you are the boss of your phone. Any carrier can provision. Problem lies in that this data [the CID flag] lies in mmcblk07 which is read only memory; so, you have to do some pretty drastic stuff [disassemble phone, short the test point, hook it up to your riffbox, and then write that data]. I unfortunately don't know a way around that. Hope that helps.
Regards,
Rob
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QPST can unlock the read only memory "nvm" folder. So could these changes be made there, without requiring the hardware equipment you mentioned Rob? It took new radio software, and Olinex's sim unlock tool just 15 minutes to unlock my Verzion Global HTC touch pro 2 for US gsm use. So there has to be an easier way (or at least a software only way) to do it with this phone.
Can anyone else chime in with ideas?
other thing not attempted
supermaxkato said:
QPST can unlock the read only memory "nvm" folder. So could these changes be made there, without requiring the hardware equipment you mentioned Rob? It took new radio software, and Olinex's sim unlock tool just 15 minutes to unlock my Verzion Global HTC touch pro 2 for US gsm use. So there has to be an easier way (or at least a software only way) to do it with this phone.
Can anyone else chime in with ideas?
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without supercid, there are things you can try.. no guarantee if they will work or not.
There is a db file on htc roms that holds all the apn information.
One could try editing this db file w/ a sqlite editor. It's at /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db . Now, before you go too crazy, backup that file. Then try adding your AT&T apn info into that db [US carriers have been left out intentionally]. If that keeps [is not rewritten each boot] you should be good to go w/ maybe a minor build.prop tweak. Otherwise, you'll have to get supercid; which, is the route I went. Basically the radio supports gsm & cdma; it's adding the gsm carriers you want [if you can get around Sprint's control] or controlling it yourself [supercid]. Hope that helps.
Regards,
Rob
holy cow! that is drastic
insink71 said:
Yep. fairly easily yet difficult if you don't have the right equipment. You have to unlock sim [if locked] as previously mentioned and set Carrier ID or CID to 11111111 from SPC___03 [or whatever it is]. With Sprint set as the Carrier ID, they control the provisioning and can restrict GSM to non US carriers; with super CID as it's sometimes called, you are the boss of your phone. Any carrier can provision. Problem lies in that this data [the CID flag] lies in mmcblk07 which is read only memory; so, you have to do some pretty drastic stuff [disassemble phone, short the test point, hook it up to your riffbox, and then write that data]. I unfortunately don't know a way around that. Hope that helps.
Regards,
Rob
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WOW!!! "[disassemble phone, short the test point, hook it up to your riffbox, and then write that data]"
That is beyond my skills. I might pay someone to do that since I have no RiffBox.
I see offerings online for a code they claim will unlock the SIM reader for about $20. So, either this is a blatant lie or there is a software way around it?
Anyone in NC or NY wanna do this stuff to my phone?
If someone wants to try this I'm willing to pay also. But I still think there has to be a software-only way to do this.
Rob, I did try editing the files you said, but with no luck. Could we use the old MTTY program to try and gain superCID?