FIX NEEDED TO COMPLETE COOKING OF ROM
Hello everyone,
After trying every and I mean every beta Windows 6.5 ROM I have found that all of them suffer the same bug. Yes, the elusive SMS / E-Mail To field issue.
I have had a look through each ROM thread and it's blurring into one, yet no one has specified a valid fix for this issue.
The issue in question is as follows:
Creating a new SMS / E-Mail. Enter the first few digits / characters of a name / number into the To field. Telephone numbers freeze after the second digit, Name freezes if you delete a character, selecting from the black auto complete box causes the message to send with a (#) as the To address.
A partial fix and lead is the virtual keyboard. Using the full qwerty with keyboard slid in causes the issue. Using keyboard (windows) then you have no issue. With the keyboard open the issue happens no matter what virtual keyboard is selected.
HAS ANY ONE GOT FIXES THAT WORK YET?
Yes I noticed the same problems. I fixed it by not cooking in XT9 for either the Fuze or the TouchPro. In other words, I completely removed any vestige of the HTC keyboard from the ROM, and how everything works perfectly. This means that I have to use my keyboard more, but I've found that its usually quicker to do this anyway. But yeah, I haven't had a freeze in 2 weeks with this method.
I have used several WM 6.5 ROMS and have never had the issue. I use touchpal as my SIP mainly and I always use the autofind in the TO: field. Can you give me the step by step instructions on how to reproduce the problem cause I am just not seeing it?
-McMex
It is a dirrect result of new code thats been put in by microsoft. There about 15 registry entries. I dont have time to post them at the moment. They are posted somewhere in my 6.1 rom thread. These keys are also in all 6.1 roms over 21040
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{364D1505-915A-4b1d-85A6-8C258B2D2246}]
@="ContactEmailSuggestionGenerator"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{364D1505-915A-4b1d-85A6-8C258B2D2246}\InprocServer32]
@="msnewmnu.dll"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{45EEED9B-898C-4caf-BC3E-A5422F56085B}]
@="ContactPhoneSuggestionGenerator"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{45EEED9B-898C-4caf-BC3E-A5422F56085B}\InprocServer32]
@="msnewmnu.dll"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{99ae0ef2-0772-4bd4-8f49-d0672b3f6480}]
@="RecipientInfoSuggestionGenerator"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{99ae0ef2-0772-4bd4-8f49-d0672b3f6480}\InprocServer32]
@="msnewmnu.dll"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Inbox\RecipientAutocomplete\SuggestionGenerators]
"email"="{99ae0ef2-0772-4bd4-8f49-d0672b3f6480}"
"phone"="{45EEED9B-898C-4caf-BC3E-A5422F56085B}"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Inbox\RecipientAutocomplete]
"MaxSuggestions"=dword:0
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{99ae0ef2-0772-4bd4-8f49-d0672b3f6480}]
@="RecipientInfoSuggestionGenerator"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{99ae0ef2-0772-4bd4-8f49-d0672b3f6480}\InprocServer32]
@="msnewmnu.dll"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Inbox\RecipientAutocomplete]
"DisableIMEContextInAddressFields"=dword:00000001
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Inbox\RecipientAutocomplete]
"MaxSuggestions"=dword:0
is what fixed it for me.
It seems Microsoft's autocomplete interferes with the HTC/XT9 one, and this kills the Microsoft one.
Trancecoder said:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Inbox\RecipientAutocomplete]
"MaxSuggestions"=dword:0
is what fixed it for me.
It seems Microsoft's autocomplete interferes with the HTC/XT9 one, and this kills the Microsoft one.
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WOW, seriously thanx!!! this helped big time so far from what i can see!!!
That seemed to fix it for me as well..!! I'm currently running jug6ernaut's Mystic Fuzeberry 6.5 ROM and was suffering from this very issue and it now appears to be fixed..!! Thanks for the tip..!!
widow mobile lol
pls add this to the wikki
mcmexican:
To recreate try this:
1) Open SMS
2) Type 07
3) 07______________ appears and you cannot continue
OR
1) Open SMS
2) Type name
3) Hit backspace
4) SMS freezes
OR
1) Open SMS
2) Type name
3) Select from black HTC autocomplete
4) Send
5) Send shows from (#) not name and fails
Also! Cooks, the RGU file the contains the reg is:
208f8be6-1362-45b3-ae17-95d4ab426c11.rgu
Do a search within this string for maxsuggestions
Trancecoder said:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Inbox\RecipientAutocomplete]
"MaxSuggestions"=dword:0
is what fixed it for me.
It seems Microsoft's autocomplete interferes with the HTC/XT9 one, and this kills the Microsoft one.
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It works for me too...
Thanx
Jules_gt
MS Inbox AutoComplete Kill - reg & cab
Thanks Trancecoder, this fix worked for me as well.
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Hi all I've tried PPC2003 from Jeff Summer Kitchen with 4.00.11.eng ver Rom basic. After I tried to install several software back I notice it is quite a lot of nice software won't work normaly in PPC2003PE. Because I'm only a regular user I just want to share several story of my own. And Tips from all of you guys if you have the problem solver.
1. Caller2Picture: Can be installed, but won't wok with all contact. Very strange only several contact work with this software
2. Omega baterry pack 2003: Can be installed, work well. But if you select the mode tap 'x' direct close program and do soft reset after it the software will crash. You will get back only untill first bootdisplay and nothing happen after all.
3. Pocket Plus: Can't be installed in PPC2003PE at all.
NB: I think menu for direct close program with tap 'x' icon very usefull for us. Because it reduce the risk of run out memory in our device. But as far as I get there is NO other alternatif software that can do this in PPC2003PE. If anybody could give me a tips I'm very thankful.
1: Caller2Picture only works if the caller is sending his/her ID along.
2: Don't use this.
3: A 2003 update of PocketPlus is out and works fine.
Wow...., thanks Leo.
But Imean the bug from caller2picture is you only can assign picture and ringtone to random contact name only not all from contact name means that if you try to assign the picture and ringtone to certain contact the "caller2picture" couldn't recognise the contact that we have. In the name bar will appers none and contact number blank. Not as usual, the contact name automaticly appears on the name and the contact number will show all, if we have more than one phone number for the contact in our list.
:?
That what I was mean
Blackcatz said:
2. Omega baterry pack 2003: Can be installed, work well. But if you select the mode tap 'x' direct close program and do soft reset after it the software will crash. You will get back only untill first bootdisplay and nothing happen after all.
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My experience exactly. I'm a fan of several battery pack features. I use the PocketNav available on the Kitchen to replace some of the menu/program closing utility of Battery Pack, but still liked Battery Pack better overall.
Clearly there's a conflict if you have both PocketNav and Battery Pack 2003 installed at same time... Tried this and they both occupy the same space on the menu bar and fight with each other for control. Are you running both, or did you find that Battery Pack did not work, even in the absence of PocketNav?
But Imean the bug from caller2picture is you only can assign picture and ringtone to random contact name only not all from contact name means that if you try to assign the picture and ringtone to certain contact the "caller2picture" couldn't recognise the contact that we have. In the name bar will appers none and contact number blank. Not as usual, the contact name automaticly appears on the name and the contact number will show all, if we have more than one phone number for the contact in our list.
That what I was mean
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Dear,
I found similar symtoms mentioned. Here is what I did to get around the problems
1. Try alter some details in the contact that the program does not recognize (i.e. shorten the name of the contact, etc.)
2. Ignore the "None" sign and manually type in the phone number of the contact yourself. This has limitations, though works pretty well with the incoming calls that normally not supported by the prog. That is you cannot work with more than one number/contact.
Anyway, I always prefer the second getaround. It works pretty fine except for the shortcoming mentioned
HTH
Ken
MS Money 2003 doesnt work on WM2003, I find that kind of funny.
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I have no problems with omega one battery pack 2003...
but there isnt any sound heh...
I dont have pocket nav installed... prefer batterypack mucho
boomerdogg said:
MS Money 2003 doesnt work on WM2003, I find that kind of funny.
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Dear,
If you wish to use MSMoney on your wm2003 platform, here is my recommendation
1. After the installation, your device will show "incompatibility" sign, do NOT press ok at the warning sign
2. Use your Pocket Explorer to locate the .CAB file of MS Money (can either be in the device or in SD Card, depending on what you choose in the first place)
3. Use .CAB installer to install MS Money onto your device
4. After the installion, press OK at the waring sign.
5. Here you go
HTH
I tried that, but when I try to run the cab file I get an error message telling me it cant find the file. I know its there because I just clicked on it.
boomerdogg said:
MS Money 2003 doesnt work on WM2003, I find that kind of funny.
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- yeah, that was talked about on the other PPC boards...appearently MS wants you to wait to get Money 2004... :roll:
Disable eT9 & Enable the Older T9 - works better for copy/paste on WM6.x SmartPhones
LINK EXPLAINING HOW THIS CAME ABOUT
I use WM6 ROM by GnatGoSplat (LINK), which breathed new life into my little phone. I also develop my own software in MortScript called JZ SmartMort, which helps SmartPhones/PPCs be more productive with copy/paste/clipboard history/multi-web-browsers/favorites/java, etc. When I had WM5, my software worked like a charm and I was able to copy/paste EVERYWHERE, including JBed textboxes like in Opera Mini. As soon as I used WM6 & WM6.1 ROMs, my program stopped copying and pasting which really killed my productivity but I absolutely had to leave WM6 on my phone because it's so much faster. So after trying a thousand things, I finally figured out that Tegic's eT9 IME keyboard driver is not the same animal as T9: because using T9, you're able to press any key combination of keys (Control-C, Control-V, etc.) while controlling the device from a MortScript or from a PC using MyMobiler. When eT9 is the IME driver, copy/paste did not work at all.
Tegic is the company who write the driver for HTC, this CAB is T9 (a.k.a. classic T9) ----VERSUS---- the newer xT9 (a.k.a. eT9), on WM 6.x and above which is not compatible with standard copy/paste keyboard shortcuts.
So --- I dumped the original WM5 ROM from HTC to disk and grabbed every file that met this criteria "\Windows\T9*.*" threw it into a CAB and added the registry entry (HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\IME File) to switch over to the T9 dll file, replacing the newer but inferior eT9. If you uninstall the CAB offered on this thread, your original/newer eT9 driver will return.
After installing this CAB, all T9 functionality should be available. Soft-reset is recommended but not necessary, however, T9 will only be available to newly launched apps. After you do a soft-reset, all apps will use T9.
This CAB is for US-English (1033/0409) locale. Should only work on non-QWERTY SmartPhones (just dial-pad) Obtained this driver from Cingular 3125 ROM (HTC StarTrek -- here's a picture of it). IME driver is Tegic T9 for WM 5.0)
Post #8 suggests that this driver also works for BenQ E72. My guess is that it also will work on Pantech devices.
Thanks!
JZ
hi, I used this cab which allows for your script to work with Opera Mini. It now copies and pastes the correct address. Your cab replaces xT9 on my s640. However, there is an undesired side effect. I can no longer user the function buttons, which includes all numbers and symbols. Basically, with this keyboard I have only letters.
Any idea how to remedy this? I would like for copy and paste to work properly as well as having a full keyboard.
Thanks!
herrdude said:
hi, I used this cab which allows for your script to work with Opera Mini. It now copies and pastes the correct address. Your cab replaces xT9 on my s640. However, there is an undesired side effect. I can no longer user the function buttons, which includes all numbers and symbols. Basically, with this keyboard I have only letters.
Any idea how to remedy this? I would like for copy and paste to work properly as well as having a full keyboard.
Thanks!
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Few questions:
Before installing this CAB, did you try different "Opera Mini Paste-Methods" under JZ Opera Options?
Since this did not work for you, you uninstalled, after uninstall of T9 CAB the below reg entry below is restored back to original. Let me know what is in this registry key: "HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\IME File"
Was there ever a Windows Mobile 5 available for your device (so I can try to rip the T9 drivers from it)
Ultimately, I still have to find a T9 IME/keyboard driver with a full QWERTY keyboard. If you know of any other HTC device that has a full keyboard and WM5 SmartPhone, let me know.
Send me a private message and I'll see if I can attempt a few things with your device, ultimately, copy/paste is an issue with all xT9/eT9 keyboard drivers.
Thank you for your post. xT9 and the built-in Windows Mobile Copy/Paste functions are incompatible, the keys will stop responding or undesired effects will occur when using the 2 together.
scant said:
Thank you for your post. xT9 and the built-in Windows Mobile Copy/Paste functions are incompatible, the keys will stop responding or undesired effects will occur when using the 2 together.
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Sure... I was puzzled for a while until I finally figured out that IME/keyboard drivers is the killer of copy/paste, especially with Tegic's (the company who write the driver for HTC) T9 (classic T9) or the newer xT9 (aka eT9, which is not compatible with standard copy/paste shortcuts).
I do believe the limitation is only on HTC SmartPhones devices and other devices using Tegic's drivers because my Wizard Pocket PC has no issues at all.
If anyone knows of a workaround or of a smartphone that uses xT9 and is compatible with the built-in Windows Mobile 6.1 Copy/Paste functions please speak up. Cheers!
scant said:
If anyone knows of a workaround or of a smartphone that uses xT9 and is compatible with the built-in Windows Mobile 6.1 Copy/Paste functions please speak up. Cheers!
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Have you tried VitoCopyPaste by any chance? Take a look at my signature, my app includes VitoCopyPaste (on a time-limit since you don't want your Action key to always pop Vito). Basically if you press and hold your action button (middle of the D-pad) Vito will pop a menu allowing copy paste to occur. It works well on SmartPhones...
Thanks a LOT for this CAB! It works on the BenQ E72 as well (when it only had "abc" entry method).
Thanks again!
This is Yota Contacts, an application lifted off the HTC Quartz (MAX 4G) which is WiMax device on russian operator, Yota's network.
It was initially in russian and a different resolution, but a team of great people (AllTheWay, CloudyFa, fhiesh, Yozi and last, but not least myself) helped traslate it English and 10 other lanaguages.
This first post is for the english version, for VGA devices only. CAB's for QVGA and WVGA devices, can be found three posts down.
Please read the information below before you install any of the cabs in this thread and PLEASE search before you post questions.
Benefits:
- Yota Contacts completely replaces the built in windows Contacts application.
- New dialer that's much faster then the built in dialer.
- Favorites groups
- Better onscreen keyboard\
- Much more, which I'm sure you'll find once you install it and play around...
Minuses:
- Will NOT read your SIM contacts. You would have to copy them to the phone memory if you want to use Yota Contacts.
- No easy VoiceMail access (holding down 1 doesn't work). The "New Voicemail" link on TF3D's homescreen also doesn't work.
- No "face down mute" feature.
- No "bluetooth on/off switch" while in a call.
- No "Slide to Answer".
- No "Company Directory" lookup if you're hooked up to a company Exchange server.
- This app doesn't display special characters in the contact names.
- S2U2's caller ID functions HAVE to be disabled if you have the Yota Dialer also installed. (S2U2 conflicts with the Yota Dialer)
- If you have a password lock on the phone, it will impede your ability to answer the phone quickly, because you will have to input the password before you can hit "Answer" on the screen.
- No video calling or "Videoshare" (yet)
Most of the minuses listed above can be avoided by simply installing the Yota Contacts application ONLY. You will find cabs for that at the end of this post.
Please keep in mind that none of the people involved in translating this application, actually developed it. This application came from the HTC Quartz, which is a WiMax phone operating on the Yota network in Russia. Therefore, any requests you might have, to add this or that, CAN NOT, and I can't stress this enough, CAN NOT, even be considered. The reason ? We don't have the source code for the applications included in this package. All we can do is make graphical skin changes or translations to other languages... to a point. Also, the keyboard can't be extracted either, it's an integral part of YotaContacts.exe.
One more thing to remember is this app takes up quite a bit of RAM (about 9 megs for the full version and about 4-5 for the Yota Contacts only version), which on a Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch HD, etc is not really an issue, since we have plenty of RAM. On a QVGA device, you should consider this before installing it, ESPECIALLY if you only have 64 Megs of RAM to start with.
The application takes a few seconds (at least) to start the first time you use it after you turn the phone on. It's recommended to keep it running in the background after first use, instead of closing it down. You can easily setup an "exception" in HTC's task manager for it.
The cabs don't modify any of the softkeys on the Today screen, but if you would like a link anyway, you can download a cab from the second post to do that.
Now, on to the good stuff.
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The following three cabs contain the Yota Contacts and the Yota Dialer application. They both take over the Contacts and Dialer function of your operating system. You HAVE to reboot after install these cabs, even if the installation wizard doesn't prompt you to.
Base VGA version + Dialer >
MobileMatt Mirror
TF3D skin version + Dialer(shown in the last screenshot) >
MobileMatt Mirror
Skin1 skin version + Dialer(shown in the next to last two screenshots) >
MobileMatt Mirror
The following cabs contain ONLY the Yota Contacts application, the Yota Dialer has been left out. These cabs also work with CDMA devices (Alltel, Telus, Sprint, Verizon, etc...)
Base VGA: Download
TF3D VGA(shown in the last screenshot): Download
Skin1 version(shown in the next to last two screenshots): Download
This post reserved for extras for ANY version
If you would like to assign either the Left of the Right softkey on your TF3D Today screen to Yota Contacts, please download and install one of the cabs below (the names should be self explanatory).
The other cabs, change the language of the Yota Contacts application to the language code in the cab's name. So look for your country's language code and download the appropriate cab, install and reboot. This does NOT change the language of the dialer. There aren't that many translations available for the dialer, yet.
More translations available three posts down
This post reserved for cabs and screenshots of the QVGA version.
Base skin + Dialer QVGA version: Download
Base skin CONTACTS ONLY: Download
If your Today screen has a shortcut to "Phone" and you get an error trying to open "cprog.exe", edit that shortcut to point to "dprog.exe" and you should be fine.
This post reserved for the WVGA version.
Link to Yota Contacts: Download
Link the Yota Contacts + Dialer: Download
Great work,waiting for QVGA version to test on my Kaiser.
Thanks for sharing.
THANKs .
More translation changeover cabs available...
Sim Card Contacts
I would just like to get this clear with myself and maybe any other GSM members does this contacts app support Sim contacts?
No, it doesn't
After installed with QVGA version....
Nice looking
and bugs
I would try to fix that for you, but unfortunately I'm not the original author of the QVGA cabs and I can't test on my phone to try and fix the problem. If anybody wants to take a crack at it, you can edit USSDskin.zip in the cab to adjust it down to QVGA size
NRGZ28 said:
I would try to fix that for you, but unfortunately I'm not the original author of the QVGA cabs and I can't test on my phone to try and fix the problem. If anybody wants to take a crack at it, you can edit USSDskin.zip in the cab to adjust it down to QVGA size
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yes,all right.I will try resize it.
I've had this installed on my Xperia for a while now and although I love it, I suspect it's extremely power hungry. My battery drains in under 1 day now as opposed to ~3 before I used yota.
Anyone else experience this?
Hey all,
first of all I would like to say that I really like this app.
I have one big issue.
After installing the app my connection with my Parrot CK3100 goes crazy.
When connect to my phone there is already a call been made???
My contacts aren't sync anymore.
I use a HTC Touch Pro.
What is wrong, or what do I wrong?
Who can help me, I would realy love to use this app.
I use HTC HD but nothing works, does not load the phone numbers in your address book.
I use the VGA version.
The log can not display even call calls
Works fine on my Touch HD. Your contact's probably don't show up because they're on your SIM card. This app can only read contacts that are in your phone memory.
Rozenthal said:
Works fine on my Touch HD. Your contact's probably don't show up because they're on your SIM card. This app can only read contacts that are in your phone memory.
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I use only the contacts on your phone.
But the call log that also do not see
ussd skin for qvga
For fix the USSD services screen just put this zip file in Windows/skins folder.
Another request: Anyone know how fix the incoming call picture? It is in VGA size.
Thanks
ryomahino said:
For fix the USSD services screen just put this zip file in Windows/skins folder.
Another request: Anyone know how fix the incoming call picture? It is in VGA size.
Thanks
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Thanks for that. Updated post #3 with the updated version
Golgo said:
I've had this installed on my Xperia for a while now and although I love it, I suspect it's extremely power hungry. My battery drains in under 1 day now as opposed to ~3 before I used yota.
Anyone else experience this?
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A few people have reported this with the WVGA version, myself I don't have any problems running the VGA version. Try running the "contacts only" version. I'm sure your battery will be back to normal
For NEON 400 users only!
Please do not even consider flashing this rom unless your device is a NEON 400. That's the Canadian Telus/Bell version of the HTC Touch Dual. If you don't know how to find out the model number... then I suggest you do some more reading before you consider flashing any roms.
Hey All,
My old phone died so I recently became the proud owner of the HTC Touch Dual NEON 400. Long story short I unlocked it (Thanks to jockyw2001) and found that there are no Chefs out there with this device. There's a couple dedicated dudes out there trying to help all of us NEON 400 users (Talking about you Rataplan, deepankerjha), but since they don't actually have this device it's pretty tough for them to prepare and test a rom for us.
So, I took the plunge. With Rataplan's help (thanks a lot buddy, couldn't have gotten this far without you're help) I've been cooking away and have a solid WM 6.5 ROM here for us. It's based on the Telus stock ROM and WM 6.5 build 21914. I haven't yet cleared all the extra's (so it's a bit fat) but in my testing so far it's 100% functional and bug free (well, as bug free as WM can be )
I can't guarantee how well it'll work on the Bell NEON 400's, but if you have a Telus device, this should do the trick. I'm using it right now on mine.
Please leave feedback if you try this ROM out. I am still a novice chef, but I'll take feedback to heart, and I'll continue cooking and optimizing roms for the NEON 400 as I learn more and get better.
Happy Flashing!
I'll post updates as they come.
UPDATE:
Sorry all, but in my quest to migrate to the Android OS I've ditched my Neon in favour of the Vogue. I'll upload the Lite ROM I was working on for those who want it. The only thing I was having trouble with was the GPS, apart from that the ROM runs very nicely with the extra weight of the cube and other fat removed. Feel free to PM me if you have questions, I'll do my best to help if I can.
Give me a few days to do a fresh build of the Lite ROM and to take one more stab at getting the GPS working.
Okay my final roms are up. Hopefully Rataplan will have the links posted below shortly.
Lite Version: 1.01 - 1.03
-WM 6.5 Build 21914
-TouchFlo Cube removed
-A bunch of other bundled HTC/Telus packages removed
-GPS is still flaky
Version: 2.01
-WM 6.5 Build 21914
-Nothing removed, All stock HTC and Telus packages remain
EDIT I can't post links just yet, so Rataplan's going to help me out with that, check his post below for the download links.
Here are the links:
NEON400_201 Added 19th August
NEON400_Lite_101 Added 9th November
NEON400_Lite_102 Added 9th November
NEON400_Lite_103 Added 9th November
Loaded on my Bell NEON400. Took a while to get to setup and made a few bleeps along the way, now it's at the "Customization" part. Will update as I finish setup and test it out.
EDIT: Finished installation, looks pretty good, will test calling and texting as we go. Any chance we can strip the Telus crap out of it though? Hate seeing "Telus" everywhere when it's not even a Telus phone.
EDIT 2: Trying to set up ActiveSync to sync with my Google Account - it freezes every so often for a short while and won't respond to taps or key presses. Seems to be common in all applications. Also, the keys operate but the backlight never turns on for them (disregard that - they do work, see Edit 4).
EDIT 3: Hitting the X to close a window doesn't kill the app like it did in WM 6.1. Not sure if this normal behaviour or not (first time flasher).
EDIT 4: After a reboot the key backlight is working again. When I try changing the keyboard however to a full QWERTY layout the setting never saves and always reverts to the "touch keypad" or whatever it is (same problem in WM 6.1 so it's a setting issue not a ROM issue - disregard please).
If you could get rid of the Telus branding everywhere and see what's up with the freezing this ROM would be perfect!
Nice job.
got_milk, Thanks for testing on your Bell device. Like I said in the post I wasn't sure what to expect on a Bell phone. I'm working on a lite version right now with the Telus stuff stripped out. I'm also trying to remove the added weight from HTC like the touchflo cube (I really hate that thing...)
I've noticed the problem with the X button not closing apps. It seems in WM 6.5 it just sort of minimizes them. Although if I recall there's a setting somewhere that lets you set it so you can close an app by holding the X instead of just tapping it. I'll look into that some more.
In regards to the responsiveness one thing I've noticed is that when memory is low I sometimes have to tap and hold the buttons for a moment before they register. I initially thought it just wasn't reading the hits but found by accident that I could make it work by holding it for an extra moment. Hopefully this won't be a problem once I get my Lite version working.
I highly recommend downloading and installing Finger Keyboard. It's my favourite by far. I can't post links yet, but the thread where I found it is titled:
\\\\\\\\\ F i n g e r K e y b o a r d 2 ///////// v2.1 - NOW ONLINE - all resolutions
One other thought: If you could hook me up with the ROM you're using as the stock Bell ROM I could recreate this 6.5 ROM using it as the base. This might solve some of your problems too.
Thanks again for testing!
Not a problem, thank you more for doing this! I really hate how we're limited to WinMo 6.1, when we clearly have a 6.5 capable device.
I'm using the stock Bell ROM from jockyw2001's HardSPL post (stickied at the top of this forum).
Looking forward to the lite edition, I will certainly test it when you release it.
So, I couldn't stay away (Software Engineering student...lol). I set up my own kitchen and started to cook using a stock Bell ROM. I've managed to strip all the Bell crap + the HTC cube and make a nice clean ROM.
However!
I've encountered one bug so far. On the home screen, where "Text" should be, it's simply blank and clicking it gets me to the main Outlook menu (where I choose Text Messages or Outlook E-mail). I can also not create text messages or reply to them. I know we've hit this roadblock before but no one's said how they got around it.
I also don't have data working at all - it's not being configured automatically (I think the Bell customization wizard does this, but it's disabled).
EDIT: Okay, it's as I suspected. There's a connection.xml file that's part of the Bell scripts that is added to handle data access. Anyone know how I can add data as part of the ROM package?
For sms take a look at this post from 88fingerslukee,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6961719&postcount=49
Regards,
That registry edit is just enabling/disabling threaded SMS...in my case SMS doesn't work at all (I can receive and view SMS') but I can't create any new ones or reply to them.
got_milk said:
That registry edit is just enabling/disabling threaded SMS...in my case SMS doesn't work at all (I can receive and view SMS') but I can't create any new ones or reply to them.
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Okay, did you select webview in the sys-part of your kitchen.
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Okay, did you select webview in the sys-part of your kitchen.
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Yes, it's essential anyway so I get prompted if it's not included. It's not part of WM build 21914 however...
So I've tried with a bunch of different WM builds, new kitchen setups, and everything I can think of under the sun.
Data works out of the box - it's just not enabled by default. If you go into the comm manager and enable data it seems to work.
SMS is still broken. When it's not highlighted right above the text 'Text' it displays 'No notif...'. Highlighting 'Text' gives you absolutely no text at all and your option for that is 'View', which takes you to your call list.
I've cooked all day and yet I cannot get this to work at all. I'm rolling back to WM 6.1 until I can find a solution.
got_milk said:
So I've tried with a bunch of different WM builds, new kitchen setups, and everything I can think of under the sun.
Data works out of the box - it's just not enabled by default. If you go into the comm manager and enable data it seems to work.
SMS is still broken. When it's not highlighted right above the text 'Text' it displays 'No notif...'. Highlighting 'Text' gives you absolutely no text at all and your option for that is 'View', which takes you to your call list.
I've cooked all day and yet I cannot get this to work at all. I'm rolling back to WM 6.1 until I can find a solution.
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got_milk, way to go bud! Glad to have another new chef in the kitchen. I wont bother cooking a Bell ROM as you're already on track. My Lite ROM is gonna be a while anyway. Between wife, kids, job, and house... I just don't have a whole lot of time to tinker.
In regards to your SMS problem, I might be able to help. I too had problems getting SMS to work when I started working on my Lite ROM. After some trial and error what I found fixed it was to include two files from the OEMAPPS pkg.
Strip out all the crap from OEMAPPS you don't want and make sure that these two files remain, then include the package in your next build:
234f3319-55a2-46a3-be32-24530a643a0f.dsm
234f3319-55a2-46a3-be32-24530a643a0f.rgu
I'll be honest, I didn't do any research on the significance of these files, I just happened upon it by chance.
Good Luck!
Aha! I shall do another cook tonight and see if that does the trick.
EDIT: You sir, are a brilliant genius. I didn't have the .rgu version but the .dsm was there. Deleted everything out of OEMAPPS but that, cooked and flashed, and texting works now.
Thanks a ton!
Excellent! Glad I could help
So, my two bugs I've noticed so far...
No data. EV-DO is available, looks like it has to be set up manually. Anyone know how we can incorporate this into the cooking? I've tried ADC but it doesn't work, says it's not a valid Pocket PC application every time the phone boots up.
Also, the buttons along the top (sound, data, etc) work normally in the home screen, but enter any app and while the icons remain the same their functions have now been shifted one to the left. (Volume becomes Close, Data becomes Volume, etc).
When I first started a Lite ROM I stripped my Operator EXT packages. That killed my data. I put'em back to work on the OEM pkg's. I haven't had time to dissect the EXT packages yet to find the pieces we need for data. Whichever one of us figures that out first will have to share it with the other
For now I'm still picking through the OEM packages finding all the pieces I want/need to keep.
Not sure about your taskbar buttons, might be related to that handy tasks dropdown item that's usually on the far right (like a quickview task manager you can use to close running apps) I don't know if that's a WM feature, or something HTC bundled in.
That's an HTC bundled application (TaskManager.exe in OEMApps). I removed it and the bug's still there. You don't have this problem?
Data is handled via Connection.xml which is injected - somehow - during the "Customization" process. You CAN do it yourself manually - simply add a new connection and have it dial #777.
There's not much in the EXT packages - and what's there is impossible to tell for now, I'll dissect more and see what's there.
Strange, when I hit any of the buttons along that top taskbar it just opens up a bubble with icons for each of the options available, and then select an item from the bubble. Individually the icons along the top don't actually do anything for me, they all just open this bubble.
Right, which is the normal behaviour - it's when you actually select an icon from that bubble that everything appears to have shifted one position to the left.
Try it at the home screen and then in an application.
Also, looks like data is handled via "Connection.xml" which is placed inside the Windows folder (I'm back to stock 6.1 to check file locations). If I try to put that inside OEMApps or whatever and have that copy over though it doesn't end up in the Windows folder as far as I can tell.
I'm also trying to strip out the more unnecessary stuff, however, the camera always breaks and says the app is missing files to run. I can get rid of the cube, and everything else, but I'd like to leave the camera function behind (strips 30MB off the ROM if I clean everything else out). But the camera doesn't work.
got_milk said:
Right, which is the normal behaviour - it's when you actually select an icon from that bubble that everything appears to have shifted one position to the left.
Try it at the home screen and then in an application.
Also, looks like data is handled via "Connection.xml" which is placed inside the Windows folder (I'm back to stock 6.1 to check file locations). If I try to put that inside OEMApps or whatever and have that copy over though it doesn't end up in the Windows folder as far as I can tell.
I'm also trying to strip out the more unnecessary stuff, however, the camera always breaks and says the app is missing files to run. I can get rid of the cube, and everything else, but I'd like to leave the camera function behind (strips 30MB off the ROM if I clean everything else out). But the camera doesn't work.
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Ok it seems that you found each other, hopefully it will result in a perfect NEON400 rom, whish you guy's all the best and if I can help, just ask.
Some usefull links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564130
http://winbreak.com/winmo/voguegoodies/
Greetz,
I find it crazy that SMS-Chat seems to be the only program for Windows Mobile that combines touch-friendly scrolling with threaded messaging.
I have a Palm Treo Pro and in order to see the text I type, I have to hit enter, and then backspace, and then I can start typing.
My question: Is there an alternative to this? I would use the regular sms built into WM6 but in order to scroll up and down, I have to use the tiny scroll bar on the right instead of being able to scroll by touching and pulling the middle of the screen.
Yes, I've googled the crap out of this so I come to you guys seeing if anyone has a diamond in the dirt.
Slide2Send forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602638
Thanks a lot for the link!
My only problem with this program is it doesn't show you the full content of each text from one person in a thread, and it doesn't default to the last text sent, it starts at the top which is a problem for a thread with many texts. I like it though, and hope to see improvements in the final versions.
MKH SMS (beta version and unstable)
Requirements: wm5+ compact framework 2+
it said "MKH software MKH SMS" cannot be installed. To try installing to a different location, chose a location" but it fails for SD card and phone memory. Weird.
Bump if anyone knows a good sms program. Like I said, it seems there is a problem on Palm Treo Pro's where the text won't show up when you type to a person unless you hit enter, then backspace. It's a hassle to do every time I send a text. Is there any program like this?
I hear certain ROMS will fix this issue but i'm not too savvy on roms..
Have you tried 'Pocket Contact Manager'
A bit old, but works ok on my 'old' device, displaying contacts but also SMS in a threaded way...
http://www.pocketcm.com/
And... ho... It's freeware !
I am looking for one myself for a long time and could found nothing.
1. SMS Chat - has lots of bugs, with an inbox with 50 or more messages, it freezes all the times. Contact with developer, no response
2. Slide2Send - slow as hell, missing lots of features
3. MKH SMS - very buggy, trying to scroll thru the messages is a pain
4. PocketCM - not really a replacement as you have to open a contact to see the list of SMS
5. Samsung SilverInBox - so buggy that even samsung have hidden it on the ROM
Can't find a good (or even resonable) message app that is finger friendly.
Tried another one, SMS at Hand, one of the ugliest interface (and confusing) I have ever seen.
If you wanna try MKH SMS, use this installer, it will work (removed Russian lang file, problem with cyrillic chars on the file name).
BTW, MKH SMS seem to be the only one still in development, you might try to contact the developer at http://www.mkh-soft.com/mkh-sms.aspx (it is in Russian).
Just a quick tip, if you tap on the top bar (middle), you will get some popups, like Settings (if you are at the folder list view), Delete SMS (if you are reading one), ...
I wish I knew coding. It's just kinda annoying I have to hit enter, then backspace just to see the text i'm typing in SMS-Chat. I love the program, but this is a pain. Even on their website help it suggests doing that...for a paid program.
no others?
I am using SMS at Hand. never can get it right. I do not want to be the default sms handler.
just like other sms program, no support for sending sms, u will only see the beautiful skin when scrolling the messages.
At the moment you click send new message it will go into the ugly ms default.
I am sticking with MKH SMS for now. Developer seen willing to move it forward, been talking with him about problems, suggestions and new translations. Version 1.2 seem very promissing.
Btw, it replaces the send sms with a graphical touch based one, you should try it.
there is 1.2?
Version 1.2 is still in development, but looks promising.
Hopefully easily skinnable as well!
Yes. The skin is a file with an extension of *.th, but that is only a zip file with some images a config (text) file. It comes with an iphone like skin. Would be nice to have at least two more, a manila and a diamond.
Translate is also easy, it is a text file (I have done one to Brazilian Portuguese).
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Version 1.2 is still in development, but looks promising.
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can we try it?
Just tried MKH on my HD Mini and it works just fine. also seems to take only half the memory of HTC Messages.