I think its possible to use the same carcharger from the HTCTyTN (Hermes) and HTCTyTNII for the HTC Touch HD. I read somewhere its possible. Somebody any experience with that!
luckyuser said:
I think its possible to use the same carcharger from the HTCTyTN (Hermes) and HTCTyTNII for the HTC Touch HD. I read somewhere its possible. Somebody any experience with that!
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Should, my car charger for my Tilt works fine with the Fuze. It's the same connector. I do believe all HTC products have the same connector.
beachboyde said:
Should, my car charger for my Tilt works fine with the Fuze. It's the same connector. I do believe all HTC products have the same connector.
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Actually, its just a simple mini usb connector. My Mitac Mio A701 has the same. I am using the same car charger for Mio A701 and HTC touch HD. I use a Kensington USB charger, for 6.99 euros its yours. Then use any normal usb to mini usb cable...
david-v said:
Actually, its just a simple mini usb connector.
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Unfortunately, it's NOT a standard mini usb connector. HTC has a different connector that very much looks like but isn't mini usb. You can't use a mini usb cable with HTC devices.
Here's a picture of HTC connector: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config , as opposed to the mini usb connector (http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/usb.htm)
What's true, though, is that all newer HTC devices use the same connector, so you are able to use the cable from any other HTC device you might have.
cgdams said:
Unfortunately, it's NOT a standard mini usb connector. HTC has a different connector that very much looks like but isn't mini usb. You can't use a mini usb cable with HTC devices.
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You are wrong. With the Touch HD comes an ordinary Mini USB cable.
Charging is done by the pins for normal USB. The ExtUSB additional pins are for a headset only.
this is the one I use and it works no problem .....
http://www.uxcell.com/car-charger-for-motorola-razr-black-p-3590.html
it charged my TYTNII as well, it's one I had from a previous phone
cgdams said:
Unfortunately, it's NOT a standard mini usb connector. HTC has a different connector that very much looks like but isn't mini usb. You can't use a mini usb cable with HTC devices.
Here's a picture of HTC connector: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config , as opposed to the mini usb connector (http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/usb.htm)
What's true, though, is that all newer HTC devices use the same connector, so you are able to use the cable from any other HTC device you might have.
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The connector is compatible with mini usb. It looks different, but you can still use a normal mini usb connector, trust me, it works
I tried the same carcharger on my Touch that I used for my HTCTyTn, it works during navigation and it works good. But at the same time the battery needed a recharge to. The only thing that regonized was that the device was warmingup, but not extremly.
In the past, sometimes, but not always the TyTn get the same warmingup. But never had an real problem with that.
Is that a normal behavior
Car Charger
Could one of you please advice me, whether I can use the same car charger, (not the usb to mini 11 pin USB cable) which I had for my XDA II, for my Touch HD? I am concerned about the output from the charger for XDA II as I don't know whether it is a 5.0V one, as required for Touch HD. Thank you.
hevikar said:
Could one of you please advice me, whether I can use the same car charger, (not the usb to mini 11 pin USB cable) which I had for my XDA II, for my Touch HD? I am concerned about the output from the charger for XDA II as I don't know whether it is a 5.0V one, as required for Touch HD. Thank you.
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As we said before that Touch HD has a USB connector, and USB is ALWAYS 5.0V!
esackbauer said:
As we said before that Touch HD has a USB connector, and USB is ALWAYS 5.0V!
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Will that mean that I can use the XDA II's car charger for this,as that has an usb slot, to which I can plug my HD's USB sync cable? Sorry, if I sound stupid. I am a newbie. Thank you very much for your help.
Hi all,
I ordered an original HTC car charger. Because it had an mini usb which looks differently, I called HTC.
They assured me that this charger was ment for the HTC touch HD and could be used without a problem.
The car charger comes with an mini usb plug.
car charger CC C100 HTC
hevikar said:
Will that mean that I can use the XDA II's car charger for this,as that has an usb slot, to which I can plug my HD's USB sync cable? Sorry, if I sound stupid. I am a newbie. Thank you very much for your help.
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yes, it means you can...and you can use any (mini) usb cable you want too...easy, isn't it? I use a retractable USB cable.
david-v said:
yes, it means you can...and you can use any (mini) usb cable you want too...easy, isn't it? I use a retractable USB cable.
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Thank you very much.
cgdams said:
Unfortunately, it's NOT a standard mini usb connector. HTC has a different connector that very much looks like but isn't mini usb. You can't use a mini usb cable with HTC devices.
Here's a picture of HTC connector: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config , as opposed to the mini usb connector (http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/usb.htm)
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I'm not sure how you guys use even "official" car charger for HTC HD
Look at those pictures ... this link
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
shows you HTC Touch HD socket ... it is straight on one end and bevelled on other end. It is extUSB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31649&d=1164664052
But standard USB socket (even on official car charger listed on expansys site) is bevelled on BOTH ends
http://www.expansys-usa.com/zoompic.aspx?type=item&i=174221
How you guys charge your HD with "standard" USB ? Do you just force standard USB plug into extUSB socket on HD ?
bogdatov said:
I'm not sure how you guys use even "official" car charger for HTC HD
Look at those pictures ... this link
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
shows you HTC Touch HD socket ... it is straight on one end and bevelled on other end. It is extUSB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31649&d=1164664052
But standard USB socket (even on official car charger listed on expansys site) is bevelled on BOTH ends
http://www.expansys-usa.com/zoompic.aspx?type=item&i=174221
How you guys charge your HD with "standard" USB ? Do you just force standard USB plug into extUSB socket on HD ?
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The HD plug is compatible with mini USB. Yes, on the HD it is flat on one side. Don't worry. You can use a regular mini USB charger. There is no forcing there, just look at the pictures...the connection showed there can take "more" than just mini USB, not less. A normal mini USB is bevelled at both sides. on HD it is bevelled on only one side, meaning you can fit there a "bigger" plug (read extmini USB), not a "smaller" plug
Oh, maybe I forgot to mention. I have a HD, and for the last time, you can use all your mini usb connectors on the HD (I use 4 different ones, at work, in car, at home for charging and at home for sync). They all fit, it is compatible...no forcing!!! End of thread....please....?
I made a video for those who do not believe that a miniUSB can plug into extUSB socket -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n05lUtReubU
I use a genuine htc charger which charges quicker than a generic one from the lighter socket. I believe this is because generic charger is at the standard usb 500mah where as the genuine charges at 1000mah and therefore a quicker charge. Note your power supply (the one which plugs into the wall) supplies 1000mah.
By the way, I've used various cables with my phone and although the connectors always fit no problem, that doesn't mean they actually have worked!
For example, I've tried a power supply for an older Orange SPV and was surprised when it refused to charge my TyTnII!?
I've also had other issues with usb connection to my PC where it will charge from the usb port but will not connect to Windows until I change the cable. The cable that didn't work, works perfectly well with other mini usb devices. This was actually from a Belkin 16-in-1 card reader thing... never had much faith in belkin!!
esackbauer said:
You are wrong. With the Touch HD comes an ordinary Mini USB cable.
Charging is done by the pins for normal USB. The ExtUSB additional pins are for a headset only.
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can you take a picture of your mini USB (assuming you have HD)?
My HTC HD has the special connetor. the regular mini USB does not fit into the HD jack.
The only option I see is to get a generic lighter plug with standard usb jack and connect the proprietary cable and stick it in the plug.
But you still beed another cable (one at home and one in your car)
I had the KJAM and it has a standard mini usb - It does not fit in the HD.
kubeb said:
can you take a picture of your mini USB (assuming you have HD)?
My HTC HD has the special connetor. the regular mini USB does not fit into the HD jack.
The only option I see is to get a generic lighter plug with standard usb jack and connect the proprietary cable and stick it in the plug.
But you still beed another cable (one at home and one in your car)
I had the KJAM and it has a standard mini usb - It does not fit in the HD.
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I think it would be better if you show us a picture of your mini usb plug, the one that does not fit. That makes more sense than us showing a "regular" mini-usb plug that fits in the htc extusb, which is backwards compatible with mini-usb.
btw, did you watch the video from salcho? that says more than pictures I guess. Please, make a picture of your mini-usb cable and show it to us here.
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Well.. I haven't this one untill now. But i want to know if there are any body has the same idea with me.
A simple cable adaptor will not work, because for that to work, Asus has to specially support outputting a compatible composite analogue signal through their HDMI connector, which I don't think they will. However, they have announced a standard VGA adaptor, with that you can connect an analog TV with a VGA input. If you have an even older TV, then you'll have to use a HDMI to RCA converter box like this.
Like above, you'll need an active digital to analog converter cable (it either is a box or requires some batteries with a bulky part in the middle), since the Transformer only outputs digital signal (speculated). With the VGA adapter becoming available, you can go VGA Adapter -> VGA to RCA and it should work (I'm assuming the VGA adapter will also output sound with RCA or 3.5mm jack)
there must be a build in analog signal within the HDMI output, because the adapter is only a cable. and i dont think there isnt any converter in the HDMI VGA cable.
i think these two will perfect match for our problem:
VGA to HDMI cable (offical Asus cable)
http://www.cyberport.de/notebook/zubehoer/kabel-adapter/adapter---hdmi/1D09-36V/asus-mini-hdmi-zu-vga-kabel-fuer-eee-pad-transformer.html
VGA to Scart Converter
http://www.amazon.de/Pc-TV-Konverter-Notebook-verbinden/dp/B001W0A9Z8/ref=cm_cr_pr_sims_t
HDMI only has digital signals for both video and audio. You will require an active HDMI to Composite video box. Search Amazon for "HDMI to Composite video".... can't post links yet
visualvalhalla said:
HDMI only has digital signals for both video and audio. You will require an active HDMI to Composite video box. Search Amazon for "HDMI to Composite video".... can't post links yet
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Yes, a standard HDMI output is purely digital, but I think Transformer's HDMI output is designed to be reconfigured to output an analog VGA signal as well (a port is just a set of pins, you can output just about anything as long as the underlying hardware supports it; like some phones can output a HD video signal through a USB port etc.. ). I say this because photos of the announced mini HDMI to VGA adaptor is too small to be an active converter.
I have a hdmi to component and VGA converter at home,
So can test this for you tomorrow when I get home,
There isn't any reason why a adapter won't work,
To get a analogue signal then the VGA adapter for the transformer connects to the data port at the bottom,
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Yes, a standard HDMI output is purely digital, but I think Transformer's HDMI output is designed to be reconfigured to output an analog VGA signal as well (a port is just a set of pins, you can output just about anything as long as the underlying hardware supports it; like some phones can output a HD video signal through a USB port etc.. ). I say this because photos of the announced mini HDMI to VGA adaptor is too small to be an active converter.
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HP has a similar HDMI - VGA dongle... looks a lot like the Asus' version too. I wonder if it works.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/computer/categories/cables/1/accessories/NP031AA%23ABA
well check today and hdmi to vga and component both worked,
my converter looks similar to this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LKV385-HDMI-DVI-Analog-VGA-Audio-Converter-V1-3B-/250829145374?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3a6695051e
but bought my one 2yrs back for £140
i also tried hdmi to component and vga using just the cables,
which didnt work due to hdcp....
there one here going really cheap on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HDMI-RGB-and-VGA-converter-Farnell-AV17444-/170658933850?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item27bc10ac5a
40mins left on auction and its only £21
Hi guys,
I ve got a HDMI adaptor and cable for my S2 and it is working fine on the TV with HDMI, just wondering if I can connect S2 to the telly without HDMI socket?
There is no cable for that. Or use an HDMI cable with a DVI converter on top of it?
Google for HDMI to composite. There's loads of cheap leads to do this.
qwerty1q said:
Hi guys,
I ve got a HDMI adaptor and cable for my S2 and it is working fine on the TV with HDMI, just wondering if I can connect S2 to the telly without HDMI socket?
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I am also trying to find how to cheaply connect S2 to a crt tv with either scart or composite RCA - does't look possible without high cost below taken from a web site but not allowed to post link as I'm a new user!:
HDMI To Composite Cable is sought by many people nowadays. People who have old technology equipments try to connect them with brand new HDMI-ready devices. Most old devices are using either composite cable, analog cable, or S-Video cable.
HDMI To Composite CableSome people think that they are able to convert the digital signal from HDMI end to several analog signals in the other end. The truth is, while you clearly can connect wire-to-wire, which simply won’t work. There is no possible solution to convert digital to analog signal without using a converter box. When you see HDMI To Composite Cable sellers claim to be able to convert the digital to analog signal directly without a converter box, they mostly scam and don’t work.
So, is it possible to convert the digital signal to analog signal? The answer is yes, but you can’t use a simple HDMI To Composite Cable. You need a converter box. It will do the conversion from digital to analog without a breeze. You may find them on the market labeled as HDMI To Composite Converter, HDMI To S-Video Converter, HDMI To 3 RCA Converter, HDMI To 5 RCA Converter, HDMI To Composite 3 RCA / S-Video Converter Adapter, but simply not as HDMI To Composite Cable only.
hdmi uses digital signal, so you can use a DVI adaptor but that's it.. (or digital component but that's ultra rare)
to use analogue (scart, composite, component, s-video) you'll need a digital-to-analogue converter box and they cost around £30 from ebay.. you're better off putting that money towards a new LCD with hdmi
I would like to set up my flyer to output video and audio to an older tv with composite connectors. Is there a cable that do this? I see several online from HTC that look like they will fit the weird mini usb port, but not sure the signal will work correctly. Any ideas? I have the mhl converter for my newer tv and know about the expensive hdmi converter box which I will probably get if I don't find something better.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P512 using XDA
Since the MHL port (not the same as some other HTC micro-usb) adapter outputs HDMI which is digital and what you need is composite which is analog, I don't believe any such cable exist or can work without a digital to analog converter.
that's what I was starting to suspect. thanks
I am a user of HTC Flyer and I have done some research on connecting it with TV . I know that it is possible threw MHL adopter and HDMI cable. But what I am saying is that can it be possible threw RCA AV TV adapter Cable. I want to know that if it will support internally because physically I think it is possible. Here is how :-
1. First we will connect HTC Flyer threw OTG cable (Micro-USB to Standard USB Female cable).
2. Then we can connect OTG cable (Standard USB Female Port) to USB Male A to 3 RCA AV A/V TV adapter Cord Cable.
3. Then 3 RCA Port to A/V TV.
Has any body thought of it. Can it be possible. Please reply. I think this will change my way of using HTC Flyer if it is possible.
Please suggest.
i am not sure i get what you think is possible, but converting DIGITAL to ANALOG signals require a converter outside your flyer for this to be possible, so its not all cabling solutions you think you need here. the cable you think of is pure analog reception, and digital cables are pure 0 and 1's