Hello,
I just picked up an old ATT 8525 because my 4 year old lost my old basic cell & and it looked like the 8525 was lots of fun to mess with (as per YouTube...consummate tinkerer)
Ive read a million threads here and elsewhere and surfed a thousand sites and cannot find WM6 4 HTC hermes/8525 (let alone 6.1 or 6.5)
-Is wm6 a big improvement over Wm5
-Is WM6 needed for all these great roms?
-Will WM6.5 (if I can find and load) work with these roms and this 85?
-And of course Where do you get either (not from HTC anymore).
Regards PK
OK, I hunted this down on rapid-share. Its about 56 megs and presumably will work on the 8525. Look right? pretty esoteric.
RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship.exe
Is there any generic 6,1 or 6,5 for this.
Regards, PK
Mate, before flashing anything you need to Hard SPL your Hermes. Put Hard SPL V7 on from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722 , go to page 116, post 1160 to do it without using the PC, mostly.
Go to the WM06 section to find the newer roms, 6.5 are the latest.
But before you do any of that, you need to read the upgrade guide on how to flash your phone. Do a search, thats what its there for.
Cheers...
Thanks,
BTDT (been there done that). Read everything I can find here, there and everywhere, Have download the right stuf f I think (at it 3 days lad)
Since I posted I have found two versions of 6.0 for this phone. One (slightly larger) here somewhere I think. And one through a more circuitous route. Be interested to see the upgrade sequence going to Wm 5 to WM 6.5. Thanks for the tip.
Hermes_radio_only_1.56 has me a little confused, one post seams to say don't mess unless your life is at stake, but elsewhere, with Hard_spl_v7.5 (I guess) it's implied no prob. As best I can tell theres a trade off, newer radio, better reception, more battery life &, maybe worse camera performance. I'd like a balance. the camera is important to me.
'Nother bit of confusion, I have a new, unactivated sim card. Activate it first, unlock it, do all the other stuff first, does it matter?
Regards, PK
Ok I get it,
1) Install hard spl
2) Install first Att lite
3) Install WM 6.5....your favorite flavored ROM
4)Install different radio when you really know what your doing
PK
Yep, you got it, however, if you're using the sd card method to install the roms, its slightly different than installing Hard SPL V7, drop the steps using sspl.exe. You now have Hard SPL, you don't need to use Soft SPL anymore and its safer not to.
As you said, Don't mess around with the radio unless you know FOR SURE its gonna help. This is the one thing that practically guarantees a brick if it stuffs up during the flash.
It will effect signal reception, thats all. And always use sd card method to flash the radio rom.
Camera is not affected by Radio Rom. Look for a rom with a good camera cooked in. use the WM06 section of the Hermes forum to find WM06/6.1 & 6.5 roms.
Cheers...
Thanks D,
That was fun.
Oddly, my phone and $5.95 SIM card arrived simultaneously yesterday. Reread the HTC guide(s)., Ran through my recipe and it worked, The flashes went remakably easy and fast.
The only thing that still doesn't work is the camera zoom. Seems intuitive enough but I admitably have not read the manual.
I burned in "Golden globe 6.5". Little sluggish on this old 8525 but I'd expect that. Doesn't do all the tricks I've seen on Youtube but beats the holy 'ell out of stock WM 5 it came with.
Thanks for you help,
Regards, PK
hermes 6.5
Hey ...
If you want to try a lite 6.5 rom for hermes please try mine. it runs well even after touchflo is installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495280
I'd also appreciate feedback and comparisons to other flavors.
Nice work, might do. I'm currently semi-bricked, been loading & re-loading roms about 3-4 a day.
Does it come in any color than green??
Regards, PK
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Title says it all. I had tried the HTC South African ROM, and liked it, but I couldnt get the keyboard to correspond with the 8525 symbols. Searched all day and decided that it wasn't worth the minimal speed increase. Instead of going back to the ROM I had, the 1.34...ROM, I decided to go with this one since it has AKU 2.6. I am so glad I did!
I live in Queens, and 3G has NEVER worked in my house. Only certain times throughout my day I would see the U symbol on my phone. And it was in south Middle Village, not near my house. Since I upgraded/downgraded the ROM, not only do I have U in my house, but after 8 dslreports.com tests, I averaged over 800 kbps and peaked at 972Kbps! Perhaps its a coincidence that U is up and running here today, but I seriously doubt it! I also upgraded the radio to 1.20 and noticed a slightly less wait time for 'locating" in PIE. The OS seems faster as well, but not much faster, than the newer Cingular ROM. To any Cingular 8525 owners out there this ROM is definitely worth a look!
There must be a reason that they decided 3 WEEKS LATER to go back to AKU 2.3. Is there a bug in this ROM that I haven't discovered yet?
The radio upgrade is what made UMTS more accessible. The OS portion of the ROM didn't have any effect on your wireless. AKU 2.6 is reported to have problems, but I never personally tried it or tried to track them after I read MS Voice Command wouldn't work with it. There was a lot of discussion about AKU 2.6 in the Wizard forum, you might find some info there.
Did you install the newer radio code independently, or did it come with the South Africa ROM?
I noticed the increase in UMTS accessibility after upgrading the ROM. I upgraded the radio only to minimize the "locating" delay in PIE, activesync, etc. It mihgt be a coincidence, who knows.
Cyberon works fine w/this ROM. I never really cared fpr VC, it uses too much RAM and is a lot slower than cyberon IMO
The reason for the thread was to hopefully find out what the problems are that have been reported. Seemse strange that Cingular made a new ROM a few weeks after and went back to 2.3
I don't know why they went back to aku 2.3, but for the problem you where having with the keyboard, you could have solved it by installing a cab in the cingular's extrom (don't remember now exactly wich one).
pof said:
I don't know why they went back to aku 2.3, but for the problem you where having with the keyboard, you could have solved it by installing a cab in the cingular's extrom (don't remember now exactly wich one).
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Yeah, I had searched, and searched, and found one of your posts that spoke about a cab with "keypad.." in the name, but I downloaded TWO Cingular ExtROMS and that file was not in either of them. When I first installed the 1.35 ROM, I replaced its extrom with the newest Cingular extROM, to no avail. I don't mind though, I like this ROM so far and it hasn't caused any issues for me. And its Cingular-issued, so all of the settings were there for me.
Any recommendations of which cooked ROM would be good for a Sprint Mogul aka Titan? I want to flash one that still has the live search bar on the today screen, I use it constantly and would like to keep it.
I have been testing multiple ROM's over the past few weeks and here's what my experience/opinion is. You can load any ROM and then download Windows Live since it's not included in cooked ROM's.
The 2.17 stock ROM loads up with approx 25mb free if you bypass the customizations. I don't run this one, it comes with too much crap I don't need.
DCD's clean ROM 1.5.7 loads up with approx 26mb free with the 1.40 radio. Very stable, and runs great.
DCD's alpha 2.17 based ROM loads with approx 26mb free with the 1.47 radio. Didn't seem as quick as the 1.5.7 and I experienced issues receiving calls with this ROM (had to press the answer button twice and sometimes three times). I have not run this ROM with the 1.40 radio but DCD thinks it may fix the issue I had with receiving calls. I had to soft reset with this ROM alot more than the 1.5.7. This ROM also changes the initial HTC logo that you see on a soft reset with the words "dcd's clean rom" below it. A minor issue, but I didn't like having that there.
Custel's 1.1 4MB pagepool loads with approx 28mb free on the 1.40 radio. This ROM is the quickest and most stable ROM I have ran. My only gripe, albeit a minor one, is that the data connection is named Alltel Wireless and resets itself to Alltel Wireless on a soft reset even if you change it. I use Sprint so it kind of bugs me, though it does not affect your data connection and you do not roam to another network.
I recommend using the 1.40 radio in lieu of the 1.47 radio with any ROM. I get a much better and more consistent signal with it.
HTH
Im going to try out Custels' ROM, so all I have to do is downlaod windows live and istall it on my phone? I really just want the search bar in the today screen, because then I edit the key to search google instead of live.
Yup, that's what I've done in the past. Trying to find a link for you...
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Yup, that's what I've done in the past. Trying to find a link for you...
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Thanks!! I upgraded to custel's rom seems to be running good so far! all I need now is the search bar, greatly appreciate it if you do find it.
jhendrickson said:
I have been testing multiple ROM's over the past few weeks and here's what my experience/opinion is. You can load any ROM and then download Windows Live since it's not included in cooked ROM's.
The 2.17 stock ROM loads up with approx 25mb free if you bypass the customizations. I don't run this one, it comes with too much crap I don't need.
DCD's clean ROM 1.5.7 loads up with approx 26mb free with the 1.40 radio. Very stable, and runs great.
DCD's alpha 2.17 based ROM loads with approx 26mb free with the 1.47 radio. Didn't seem as quick as the 1.5.7 and I experienced issues receiving calls with this ROM (had to press the answer button twice and sometimes three times). I have not run this ROM with the 1.40 radio but DCD thinks it may fix the issue I had with receiving calls. I had to soft reset with this ROM alot more than the 1.5.7. This ROM also changes the initial HTC logo that you see on a soft reset with the words "dcd's clean rom" below it. A minor issue, but I didn't like having that there.
Custel's 1.1 4MB pagepool loads with approx 28mb free on the 1.40 radio. This ROM is the quickest and most stable ROM I have ran. My only gripe, albeit a minor one, is that the data connection is named Alltel Wireless and resets itself to Alltel Wireless on a soft reset even if you change it. I use Sprint so it kind of bugs me, though it does not affect your data connection and you do not roam to another network.
I recommend using the 1.40 radio in lieu of the 1.47 radio with any ROM. I get a much better and more consistent signal with it.
HTH
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i saw somewhere a registry edit that would resolve your connection renaming itself every time...ill try to hunt it down
centtavo79 said:
Any recommendations of which cooked ROM would be good for a Sprint Mogul aka Titan? I want to flash one that still has the live search bar on the today screen, I use it constantly and would like to keep it.
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I don't know why you don't just try them all out. There are so few that could try them all out from the time you finish eating dinner to the time you go to bed at night.
dharvey4651 said:
I don't know why you don't just try them all out. There are so few that could try them all out from the time you finish eating dinner to the time you go to bed at night.
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someone needs to get this guy cooking roms already
on topic: does the windows live cab in my thread not include the search bar? http://rapidshare.com/files/70134089/dcd_Windows_Live_10.6.33.0600.cab.html
if not let me know ill include it
dcd1182 said:
someone needs to get this guy cooking roms already
on topic: does the windows live cab in my thread not include the search bar? http://rapidshare.com/files/70134089/dcd_Windows_Live_10.6.33.0600.cab.html
if not let me know ill include it
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Thanks! dcd, I tried your cab as well as your rom and its seems to be working good for me, I also saw that you posted a thread with your kitchen, so here comes the noob question! how hard is it to use that to cook up a rom, is there a tut around to read about that? thanks again for the help and keep up the good work.
dcd1182 said:
someone needs to get this guy cooking roms already
on topic: does the windows live cab in my thread not include the search bar? http://rapidshare.com/files/70134089/dcd_Windows_Live_10.6.33.0600.cab.html
if not let me know ill include it
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I'll download your kitchen and see what I can do. Building ROMs is not my specialty but who knows, maybe it'll grow on me...
dharvey4651 said:
I'll download your kitchen and see what I can do. Building ROMs is not my specialty but who knows, maybe it'll grow on me...
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Its not that hard, only gets complicated when adding stuff not already included in the buildOS packages. DCD put together a nice little list of commonly used options, you click what you want, hit go, run a script which creates your .nbh, and flash it!
Actually I was able to make one and then test it but just ended up removing hardspl and putting the official Sprint Rom back on until I could figure out how to make something better. The only questions I have now is how add OEMS to the kitchen and will OEMS made for Wizard Windows Mobile 6 ROMs work in this kitchen for the Titan?
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Actually I was able to make one and then test it but just ended up removing hardspl and putting the official Sprint Rom back on until I could figure out how to make something better. The only questions I have now is how add OEMS to the kitchen and will OEMS made for Wizard Windows Mobile 6 ROMs work in this kitchen for the Titan?
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wm6 oems are wm6 oems. gsm stuff might have gsm stuff. it will (probably) build, and then you can fix/tweak it from there. if it fails due to conflicts, you need to identify the files in question, and decide which of the two needs to go. an oem is just a cab laid out. if the cab would install on wizard or titan, its oem probably would.
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wm6 oems are wm6 oems. gsm stuff might have gsm stuff. it will (probably) build, and then you can fix/tweak it from there. if it fails due to conflicts, you need to identify the files in question, and decide which of the two needs to go. an oem is just a cab laid out. if the cab would install on wizard or titan, its oem probably would.
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Great to know. I will start building a new ROM in the morning. It's 12:27am right now and I have to get some sleep. I've been up for over 26 hours thanks to working 2 jobs. I'm off tomorrow though thanks to a huge ice storm blanketing the area I live in. Sucks to drive in but hell I needed the time off...
I honestly believe Imcokeman's Clean alltelwm5 rom is the best. It boots with 28-29mb and is way stable. I haven't had one crash for 2 weeks. Thats saying a lot (for the titan lol).
I love DCD's 1.6.8 Rom over the stock rom. i have verizon.
it is very clean and i love the memory and speed on it. it feels faster than the stock as well and i do not know why i waited so long. doing the upgrade was a bit scary at first.
Some Points:
*All the skins look smoking hot compared to the default skins, The dialer is highly functional now, almost like the spb mobile shell dialer but without the bloat or memory waste.
*i didnt even have to do a *228 to program the phone after the rom update, everything just worked, email sync, text messages, get and make calls and internet.
*27.76 megs ram free after soft reset, i bet i would have more if i used a memory releasing program like oxios hibernate. 1.71.36 megs of storage free. that was more free than i had total before for internal storage.
*it has lots of tweaks pre-applied. like the text message sent confirmation turned off. the audio volume increase tweak, the 5 meg page pool.
*very polished feel, more so than the stock rom
*faster than the stock rom. i would say 50% faster? hard to gauge, but i notice it is speedier.
I have not tried custel's rom or any other rom's, installed this one and was very happy with it.
I've recently downloaded DCD kitchen and love it. I've also starting using OEMizer and making my own ROM's. It's a lot of fun and addicting. DCD Rom's seem to be the best for me. I like the clean approach and it gives me the option to install what I want and customize my phone. The other ROMs include to much stuff I don't find useful.
I just got my 8525 and so far i like it, i have WM 5 on it and it seems a little outdated. I want a new ROM and i need help deciding. The rom needs to be good with texts, phone calls and wifi primarily. Other options would be cool like the possiblity to get GPS. Please help me out.
Hey Rockman!!!!
Listen it carefully once you have unlocked succesfully your hermes go to the Windows mobile 6 subforum and try one by one... The text i dont know what do you mean with that but with cellphone signal is better to try different Radio Roms... on my country The 1.5X.XX dont works well I better get the 1.40.30 Radio Rom. On Wifi... well the wifi doesnt seems to be directly performed on the Rom is more Hardware...
So I can recomend to you the Final V10 Full Halloween By JoshKoss 6.1 Real Big Storage Normal ROM is great!!!
But who we are to say this is the wors this is the best...? if we dont cooks hahahaha whatever... try it all!!! once you upgrade you never stops to flash your device.
As + Que PPC said, you need to look at the roms yourself. What I use and what you want may be completely different.
Make sure you Hard SPL your Phone first...
I've tried many popular fancy roms and settled on this one:
Pays 3.05 windows 6.1.
Keeps the speed and gives you what you need.
http://rapidshare.com/files/9391586/Pays_WWE_305_Final_Full.rar
Hermes 8525
The only thing it needs is a direct access icon to IM somewhere on the home screen. I don't IM so Not important to me.
Keeps the speed and gives you what you need
I've tried many popular fancy roms and settled on this one:
Pays 3.05 windows 6.1.
Keeps the speed and gives you what you need.
http://rapidshare.com/files/9391586/Pays_WWE_305_Final_Full.rar[/url]
Hermes 8525
The only thing it needs is a direct access icon to IM somewhere on the home screen. I don't IM so Not important to me.
Now i'm what you techy lot on here would call a noob when it comes down to a wm5 phone, Namely the hp ipaq rw6815 don't get me wrong it's quite a good phone but, I like to try and improve things and was looking at the 6.xx cooked roms for this hand set and found a problem which one to have????
Now this is where you good folk come into this little dilema, I tried ariey's 6.5 rom, and I have to admit it was pretty good but I had the usual problems with the camera and bluetooth and every other bloody problem you could have so, I decided to do away with the rom and went back to hp's original this has happened with several of the roms posted on this site now my question is this which of the cooked roms out there is the most stable without the pains of the camera, bluetooth, handset slow down etc etc etc ???
If you believe you can help forget the a team drop me msg or reply and hopefuly my litte ipaq won't need to be retired to the great phone dump many thanks mike
after all these views no one has an answer for me hmmmm
Actually I'm searching a WM6.1 perfectly working and stable rom. I came from Arhon (Pda-hack) WM6.0 and it was perfect very stable with no problems (only thing was to patch camera). I tried many WM6.5 roms but all have the bluetooth problem you cannot add more than 2 devices (but the best was AndyAinda version 2 or 3).
Tryout the RW6828 ROM's by Helloworld1. These are very stable.
Camera does not work out of the box (for the RW6815) but there is an .cab file around here that solves the problem. Search for "pda-hack.net_hp_rw6815_camera_patch_wwe.CAB"
Also the ROMS by NHOCBANME are very stable but with more software on board (only useful software) the ROMS by Helloworld1 are like HP could have made them.
There are a lot more but in my opinion these are the two best ROM makers. But I would say, try them all and see what's best for you're self.
Don't expect any update on the ROM cause the RW68xx is already fairly old (but for it's age still very good, better as the Diamond 1 I use at the moment. For resistive screen it's the best i ever had the only thing is that it has no GPS otherwise I would not use that Diamond anymore and go back to my good-old RW6815)
Hey guys
I am wondering in plain english what difference there is? obviously in my eyes the more memory the more responsive,
but im not just talking about speed, are there differences in stability?
Also what rom would you advise that uses the 576mb hack?
Regards
I may be talking out of turn...
Just spent last few days trying different combos of roms...
whilst the customised 576mb roms have latest and greatest features, here in the UK on Vodafone Network, having to use any 2.xx.50.xx radio leaves me with awful call quality...
Love the ROMS and their features, but not at the cost of a useable telephone.
My advice is unless your device is a native 576mb, it really isnt worth the drop in useability as a telephone.
I have been through all the .50. radios, i've tried the wavedev.dll fix... all make slightest of differences...
Back on a .51. radio... the difference is undeniably obvious...
Just my two cents... thanks for letting me get that out
strange im using one of the .50 radios now, and my call quality is fine, i mean compared to the stock i dont notice a massive massive amount of call quality difference, noticable but not too much.
im currently just reading through all the different roms to see which would suite my needs, i need stability, i cant be doing with reboots all the time, but then i love the looks of some of the custom roms
hmmm decisions!
just try some custom roms... u will find one that suites best... bet u will get flash addict!
kurniawan77 said:
just try some custom roms... u will find one that suites best... bet u will get flash addict!
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Already am, with my old HTC Desire i must have changed roms 3 times a week, well until i found a rom i loved anyway.
Quick question (for some reason when i use the search funtion on my works laptop it fails miserably and times out)
Is there anyway to install a custom rom from the SD Card?
Ive not had a problem using a .50 radio in the uk..... I think they just dont like vodaphone, Ive seen a few people complaining about it....
If anything my signal is better than before.....
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Already am, with my old HTC Desire i must have changed roms 3 times a week, well until i found a rom i loved anyway.
Quick question (for some reason when i use the search funtion on my works laptop it fails miserably and times out)
Is there anyway to install a custom rom from the SD Card?
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copy the nbh file to sd card and rename it leoimg.nbh
go into bootloader and it should find teh image and flash it. If it doesnt, then try formatting teh card to fat32, and if it STILl doesnt find it, chances are you have a 8gb or 16gb card, which can be hit and miss.
as for searching, rather than teh built in search function, which is mediocre at best, bookmark and use THIS google advanced search page, and start your search with
+hd2 +leo yoursearchhere
so example
+hd2 +leo how to hspl
gives THIS
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copy the nbh file to sd card and rename it leoimg.nbh
go into bootloader and it should find teh image and flash it. If it doesnt, then try formatting teh card to fat32, and if it STILl doesnt find it, chances are you have a 8gb or 16gb card, which can be hit and miss.
as for searching, rather than teh built in search function, which is mediocre at best, bookmark and use THIS google advanced search page, and start your search with
+hd2 +leo yoursearchhere
so example
+hd2 +leo how to hspl
gives THIS
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Many thanks for the info pal, much appreciated, i have a sneeky suspision that work has for some reason blocked search engines as Bing is now also not working, may just be an issue down at our london office, right im off to try duttys rom, it looks pretty darn good!
You guys may well be right about vodafone.. and .50. roms with 576Mb, if it is any help to another vodafone user to avoid the trawling and testing of roms i have done...
I don't remember having issues with call quality and .50 radios before the 576Mb versions came out.
In my tests with Energy and CleanX Ultimate ROMS 2.10.50.19_2 was the one with least static and hiss, still very poor call quality tho.
If anyone manages to get sensible call quality on .50. radio with a 576Mb ROM on a EU spec phone and vodafone let me know, as i was really enjoying Energy latest ROM.. was why i spent so long testing out the .50. Radios.
Cheers
I've been using the latest max sense energy rom with the 2.12.50.02_2 radio on my UK vodafone. I've had no problems what so ever and the call quality is excellent. It may be an area thing by the sounds of things.
I was wrong!
I was wrong
Listening to what has been written above, i installed radio rom 2.12.50. and still had terrible call quality....
so, tried my PAYG O2 sim (uses same frequencies as Vodafone) and made a call with no crackles or hiss at all!!! With no change in radio or rom, vast improvement... noted that was on 2G signal at that point...
Changed back to vodafone sim, switched to GSM only mode and as if by magic the signal was miraculously better..
At least i am one step closer to nailing the vodafone hiss/crackle between talking... something to do with how the HD2 handles 3G based calls...
I am determined to locate and sort this feature of my HD2....
Wish me luck.