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This is not intended to be mean to the ap team but i am posting this because i feel they should of been honest to us from the beginning and just said we can't release yet. My reasons for feeling this way are listed below
1. About 1 month after pk3 dual was released, pawel and the rest of the team changed their signature to rom: top secret and it had been like that even after hdubli posted a ported copy of wm6.1.... why did'nt pawel post a wm6.1 rom when he changed rom to top secret?
2. the team keeps saying stuff like we have a BT bug or screen problems and i realize that there are some updates on the ati driver and stuff but the BT stack that is on the wm6.1 that hdubli released works great. i can use a BT mouse and a BT keyboard, and BT headphone all at the same time and it works great. I can provide a vid if there are doubts
3. Most is importantly even BoyGeniusReport says http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/03/28/htcs-manilla-gets-screenshotted/ this rom is from the x7510. something i said on the "Athena Project 4.0 coming, but needs...." post 228 but pawel denied this is post 229
in conclusion everyone should stop looking for the release of this rom and start looking for the release of the x7510 cause then and only then will this rom be released. I am only posting this so people can have a realistic outlook on the rom and can stop being dissapointed everyday in the hope it will be released. I did not post this to come down on the team i just feel like there is so much tension on this fourm and i wanted to make my thoughts known.
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Hypothetically speaking...
... Even if this were the case, why would you want him to release pre-release software that could get him in trouble or again, hypothetically, his *source* in trouble? People get fired for leaking stuff, sometimes worse. Personally, I don't need to know where this stuff comes from.
How about we let him work on things and hey, at least there's a better chance that he'll be able to bring us more HTC gems for a possible v5.0.
ok dude the rom is a 7510 rom but no way do i have to wait for it to be released. there still isn't a solid release date. the rom i could give u right now but it needs to properly be tested and bugs be fixed. we release with bugs, u guys complain, we look bad. i can take complaining before the rom then praises when it comes out.
also we have had 6.1 for a while. something like november i got the first athena 6.1 rom with build 19145 if im not mistaken. we have had 6.1 even before that though.
toastedlogic said:
... Even if this were the case, why would you want him to release pre-release software that could get him in trouble or again, hypothetically, his *source* in trouble? People get fired for leaking stuff, sometimes worse. Personally, I don't need to know where this stuff comes from.
How about we let him work on things and hey, at least there's a better chance that he'll be able to bring us more HTC gems for a possible v5.0.
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1st i never said once that he should release it. what is said was he should tell us he cant release it. i don't remember anywhere in my post and any post for that matter where i said "you should release it right now even if it will get you into trouble or even if its not ready"
On a side note - i also live in orlando, fl and goto ucf do you play halo?
Go Knights!
irus said:
1st i never said once that he should release it. what is said was he should tell us he cant release it. i don't remember anywhere in my post and any post for that matter where i said "you should release it right now even if it will get you into trouble or even if its not ready"
On a side note - i also live in orlando, fl and goto ucf do you play halo?
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No kidding - I'm planning on getting back to school this fall myself. Live right around the corner from the Uni. No Halo, since my box was red-lighting again just before my damn cat knocked a cup of water over onto the PSU for it. So i've got a little bit of work to get my box working again... oh yeah and I was banned from Live just before all that too (modded firmware), so yeah I did play halo. Meh
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also we have had 6.1 for a while. something like november i got the first athena 6.1 rom with build 19145 if im not mistaken. we have had 6.1 even before that though.
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but that is my main point for saying that you can't release it yet. you had wm6.1 since november but released a cooked wm6 rom in late november. Don't get me wrong i am grateful for everything you have done and the only point i am trying to make is that you have to wait to release. I have logical points for these thoughts. example: in "Stop the stupid ap 4.0" post 36 - you told someone you have 2 newer builds than 9.5 build 405 but you can't release it.
Look im not trying to get into a pissing match with you, and nothing productive will come out of us arguing back and forth. So if you say it's still buggy and you need more time to test than its buggy and needs more time to test. i will not say another word about it.
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PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
tomary said:
i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
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oooouch, i think that might be a little harsh. You forget they have already posted 3 roms so i think the people who have donated got their moneys worth
My first thought for the team is if you WANT to release, then there's nothing wrong with realeasing a beta--paid software makers do it all the time. Here is a beta with known bugs. Da-ta-da-tada. There's likely unknown bugs too--user beware. That's why its beta. Heck, while its not as optimal,some companies (cough, cough, microsoft,) can release betas as the real deal.
For free (please donations accepted look at the value) roms/software, the bar shouldn't be higher than that of the commercial stuff.
It's funny how this just suddenly went down hill with all the slandering etc etc... I appreciate the time EVERYONE on the AP Team took to make what was (and most of us if not ALL enjoyed it) and what is to be. I personally donated as a sign of gratitude and saying thank you, heck I would've donated if they had even asked for some sort of donation just to teach how they did it instead of releasing a new ROM. Some of you guys are just down right ungreatful and quickly forget all the hard work and time they Team puts in to stand behind their wonderful ROMS. And lets not forget the tons of apps they cook in the ROMS too. So what's the big deal if people want to donate I did it and I'll be doing it again in the near future.
If the team DOES NOT want to release. That is the team's perogative also. This seeming to hang forever on the edge of release is a little nerve wracking and is hard on the fan base,but so what? If we, the fan base, donate less--really--donations are piddly anyway. The team needs to do what they do for the fun of it and the satisfaction of it.
I think it's about time this ROM was released, bugs'n all. Just release as a Beta.
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but that is my main point for saying that you can't release it yet. you had wm6.1 since november but released a cooked wm6 rom in late november. Don't get me wrong i am grateful for everything you have done and the only point i am trying to make is that you have to wait to release. I have logical points for these thoughts. example: in "Stop the stupid ap 4.0" post 36 - you told someone you have 2 newer builds than 9.5 build 405 but you can't release it.
Look im not trying to get into a pissing match with you, and nothing productive will come out of us arguing back and forth. So if you say it's still buggy and you need more time to test than its buggy and needs more time to test. i will not say another word about it.
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thanx just dont like people saying i cant release this until the 7510 is out. i released snapvue before the shift was out and that was ok. i'll also release this new rom before the 7510 is out. i'll also be able to provide details when the 7510 is out and about what the price should be.
sergiopi said:
PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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thats why if i cant get it to my liking by friday it will be released as a beta. the 19181 build was just to unstable. it got un usable after a while. u really wanted me to release that? we tried to make it better and got it to about 80% of what it should be but then decided to go for the new 19202 because we got the ok for that. by friday there will be a rom. if all goes well before that u might have a non beta build.
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i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
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you are really getting out of hand. u donate if u like. i provided 4 roms to everyone already. people wanted a vanilla so im making a vanilla. i guess u can't make everyone happy.
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thats why if i cant get it to my liking by friday it will be released as a beta. the 19181 build was just to unstable. it got un usable after a while. u really wanted me to release that? we tried to make it better and got it to about 80% of what it should be but then decided to go for the new 19202 because we got the ok for that. by friday there will be a rom. if all goes well before that u might have a non beta build.
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If you don't mind I don't like getting my hopes up (again). So I'll put it on my calendar for Friday. I'm not hoping for it to be released before that (or maybe I am but trying not to). Dare I say it...? You're not going to disappoint us are you?
And please note. I greatly appreciate your hard work. That’s why I donated! But checking every day to find out that it’s not released it getting a bit tedious . Considering it has been hanging close to being released for quite some time now.
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it will be 100% out on friday. whether in beta form or final form. it'll most likely be afternoon local time because thats when i'll have time to release. i would like a tuesday release though because would be very funny... dont u agree??
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it will be 100% out on friday. whether in beta form or final form. it'll most likely be afternoon local time because thats when i'll have time to release. i would like a tuesday release though because would be very funny... dont u agree??
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A few questions (if you don't mind, if you do just don't answer ):
Will the beta be usable? (maybe good to know for less experienced people);
What's your timezone?
NB: no not funny at all, as I said: I'm not getting my hopes up again.
If you look at my signature, I'm still running Bionix Fusion 1.1 (JI6 build).
Vibrant development has taken off lately, given the recent leaks of different builds in such a short period of time (JK2,JK6,JL1). Ive pretty much flashed all the major ROM releases, including Gingerclone and Nero, and I find myself unsatisfied.
I always find myself reverting back to JI6 and I cant put my finger on why. Granted, I'm not as caught up in the goose chase of staying current as some others may be, but for the sake of keeping up with the forum/development and enjoying new mods/themes/features, you would think it would behoove me to upgrade to a current build. Yet I still cant bring myself to commit.
Now, IMHO these ROMs based off of leaks are very very good stuff, but still not as stable (by that i mean as smooth as silk) as previous builds, and they tend to be a bit buggy. I think this is a major factor for me.
It could also be that I currently have my phone setup EXACTLY the way i want it (theme/appearance, modifications), and I dont want to have to go and dig around for everything for the newer build. Yes, its laziness, but what can i say.
There are things out there that are available for newer builds that are not for older builds, but i still dont feel the trade-off is worth it.
Does anyone else feel this way, or am I now old-fashioned??? Like you just reach a point when youre reallly happy with your phones setup, combined with getting just a little exhausted with the constant changing? Dont misunderstand, this is not me wishing that development would stop. Hell no. Im talking about that feeling you get when you dont have the energy to upgrade on such a constant basis, even though you want to keep up with the crowd (the forum)
you need justification for your setup?
wasted space.
My 2 cents, the reason why there are so many new roms are because of the leaks. For the JK2,JK6,JL1 - These are just Modems not the actual roms.
You can upgrade your phone to the newer modems without having the need to do a complete install or mess up your themes. Just so that you know, these new modems are supposed to give you better reception & Improve GPS performance.
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you need justification for your setup?
wasted space.
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whats your problem? why are you always on my case??
GENERAL section, im bored at work and its something i was thinking about and id like to hear if anyone thinks the same way.
Hey, i have an idea....EVERY time i think about posting I will PM you, and I will ask you if you personally are interested in what im going to post, and if it meets your seasoned standards.
Piss off with your pitiful, embarassing internet ego. As mad as your post made me, as im typing this, all i can think about is how much better my life must be than yours, considering that i dont have to gutlessly cyber-bully people on forums to compensate for the alienation i experience in the real world. Flag me for flaming, i wont lose any sleep, pal.
Attend the "Town Meeting" tomorrow, you may learn something. I personally am not attending, and its because of members like you. Members who have been around for a while and break every forum rule, yet never get disciplined and probably never will. I dont care how many posts you have, or how much you contribute, no one should be immune to discipline. Yet, somehow, dicks like you are allowed to roam free with no consequences. Im simply trying to start a relevant discussion, and instead of easily passing over it, you come in and immediately start trying to derail/bellittle it. do you have ANYTHING better to do?
Guys, lets just relax and stay on point here. You can always ignore comments you do not like.
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Guys, lets just relax and stay on point here. You can always ignore comments you do not like.
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thanks for responding dude, but honestly i dont give a sh*t anymore, everyone preaches "respect other members" and that concept is absolutely non-exsistent....hes probably rubbing his hands together going "haha i ruined his thread immediately, and now hes flaming me so ill probably get him in trouble"...and the dude is alllways giving me crap....sad existence
TopShelf10 said:
Thanks for responding anyway.....i didnt realize you could flash any modem with any build.
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Open ODIN and select Select Phone and point to the Modem file.
Whatever floats your boat, if JI6 works for you then stay with it. ROMs are like a work of art, you may like one artwork over another, its all individual preference. I was flashing ROMs frequently until I settled on Macnut R14, it will be my daily driver for a while....
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Open ODIN and select Select Phone and point to the Modem file.
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yah i know how to flash....just didnt know that it would function properly....good to know though, thanks
TopShelf10 said:
yah i knwo how to flash....just didnt know that it would function properly....good to know though, thanks
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You are welcome.
Are we all waiting on the GB fix? It is nice to have a phone and not have it flashed every other day but it makes me sad that we are at a standstill. Thank you devs for everything that you have done thus far and I look forward to trying out new things when everyone comes back! I just really wanted to say that I miss you all!
... There was an update on a GB rom today... I mean a new Kernel was just released and the radio was just posted yesturday... I am not sure what you are talking about I feel the devs are quite alive here still tickin'. I feel like this post is going to get flamed.
I know what he means, it just feels dead in here. There probably is more behind the scenes, but for us common folk it seems dead.
Yea. I feel ya man. It feels dead. I felt the same way but the radio and some rom update seems Alive bbut I only want the new and still waiting for bamf.. but finally saw pr3 so gonna jump on that boat.
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I'm seeing lots of new ROMs and some with accompanying radios. Yesterday I installed the Chingy MR2 radio and Gingeritis IX, and all works great, no reboots.
Right now I'm downloading Th3ory of Ginger and and Th3ory3.0CandyV3, and those came with an MR2 radio, so it looks like things are all clear now? I gotta get my flash fix !
Feel free to start learning how to write and hack code, otherwise wait patiently and quit posting threads asking even if it's in a way that tries to be polite .
Unless you've had experience in writing code, it's hard to understand why things take so long so just imagine you're given a huge pile of parts and only half the directions to put it together (given the half from android and missing the half from htc, which htc was also nice enough to put in a format you cant easily read without translating). Your family keeps asking you "are you done yet??? You say no, it'll be done when it's done. So yeah. Working on a sense based android phone is sort of like that in the best way I can give a metaphor in non technical terms.
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Feel free to start learning how to write and hack code, otherwise wait patiently and quit posting threads asking even if it's in a way that tries to be polite .
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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nhartse1 said:
Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
Sent from my Cubed ThunderBolt!
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It's okay to wonder, sure. However, dont you think someone would post something if there was something new in the developers forum? Developers might hate being asked when something will be out, but the one thing developers like to tell the world about is something new and shiny they just made.
Just from my experience, the only people that can really pester a developer about when something should be done are paying clients. Even those get annoying, because developers sort of have a pet peeve against giving a set deadline since things generally don't go according to plan, especially when you cant estimate the project scope for something like android.
Might not agree with me and I'm relatively new to developing on android and haven't coded/hacked anything impressive enough to show yet, but I have linux development experience on other platforms and can just say how developers feel from my own experience of working with clients and free advice/work I've given elsewhere.
nhartse1 said:
Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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X2. I agree
nhartse1 said:
Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
Sent from my Cubed ThunderBolt!
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Wondering is fine but you might not have posted this if you read the dev forums. Plenty is going on so just your perception is at a stand still.
I just bought my Thunderbolt yesterday...and I'm coming from the Samsung Mesmerize. The difference in dev support is like night and day. Dev support was half the reason I bought the Thunderbolt. Keep up the good work guys.
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Alright everyone, Suggestions of either Synergy and BAmf Sense 3.0.
Battery life being most important what would you suggest???
Thanks
nmtuna said:
Alright everyone, Suggestions of either Synergy and BAmf Sense 3.0.
Battery life being most important what would you suggest???
Thanks
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Both are really good, synergy is going through a nightly process that's pretty fun to follow. They both have pretty good kernels and neither appears to have battery drain. If you're using an extended like I am you can expect about 36 hours with normal use, similar to froyo. If you're using the standard battery have a charger nearby The two roms aren't all that different, VIRUS and the BAMF team are both extremely talented. Flash them both, and take them for a test run. You'll likely ge 50 different opinions anyway
I suggest you download both and try them yourself.
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I suggest you download both and try them yourself.
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Hey everyone if you don't have an opinion or knowledge of these roms, DON'T REPLY TELLING ME TO TRY THEM BOTH! Why have a forum to interact with other users if I wanted to test EVERY Rom blindly.
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Hey everyone if you don't have an opinion or knowledge of these roms, DON'T REPLY TELLING ME TO TRY THEM BOTH! Why have a forum to interact with other users if I wanted to test EVERY Rom blindly.
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Your too picky.
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Hey everyone if you don't have an opinion or knowledge of these roms, DON'T REPLY TELLING ME TO TRY THEM BOTH! Why have a forum to interact with other users if I wanted to test EVERY Rom blindly.
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Because I'm saying you should form your own opinion? Lol, ok guy.
nmtuna said:
Hey everyone if you don't have an opinion or knowledge of these roms, DON'T REPLY TELLING ME TO TRY THEM BOTH! Why have a forum to interact with other users if I wanted to test EVERY Rom blindly.
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The community reaches out with suggestions, but you are the user and naturally, have different preferences. Being a **** about people telling you to try each yourself is not going to get you personal opinions about the roms.
My advice for you? Flash the ****ing roms yourself and quit asking stupid questions.
/troll
edit: from my personal experience, I've been able to supercharge my battery by wrapping my phone in aluminum foil and putting it in the microwave for 2 minutes. I get about 10 more hours of battery life than a standard charge, but YMMV.
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Turnyface said:
The community reaches out with suggestions, but you are the user and naturally, have different preferences. Being a **** about people telling you to try each yourself is not going to get you personal opinions about the roms.
My advice for you? Flash the ****ing roms yourself and quit asking stupid questions.
/troll
edit: from my personal experience, I've been able to supercharge my battery by wrapping my phone in aluminum foil and putting it in the microwave for 2 minutes. I get about 10 more hours of battery life than a standard charge, but YMMV.
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Turnyface and Goosey or whatever the hell. you guys are not so witty and apparently not to smart at the moment. They guy asked for advice to pick Rom A or Rom B based on your opinion of whats better! Thats like me saying should I buy a Corolla or a Stratus, u know both are kinda expensive (its a metaphor to the time it takes to install and all the work into it) not all of us like to spend 24/7 installing setting up roms, we have girlfriends and such... haha but unlike my last sentence i do like it haha, im girlfriend less thanks to my android girlfriend... all im saying is be less of **** on these forums jebus just answer the dudes question without being an asshole... nooone cares about ur philosophy, nor my philosphy i just typed up hahaha i love being a hipocrite anyhow FOFF
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Turnyface and Goosey or whatever the hell. you guys are not so witty and apparently not to smart at the moment. They guy asked for advice to pick Rom A or Rom B based on your opinion of whats better! Thats like me saying should I buy a Corolla or a Stratus, u know both are kinda expensive (its a metaphor to the time it takes to install and all the work into it) not all of us like to spend 24/7 installing setting up roms, we have girlfriends and such... haha but unlike my last sentence i do like it haha, im girlfriend less thanks to my android girlfriend... all im saying is be less of **** on these forums jebus just answer the dudes question without being an asshole... nooone cares about ur philosophy, nor my philosphy i just typed up hahaha i love being a hipocrite anyhow FOFF
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Ok, there are other reasonable people going thru these forums.
bhbmaster said:
Turnyface and Goosey or whatever the hell. you guys are not so witty and apparently not to smart at the moment. They guy asked for advice to pick Rom A or Rom B based on your opinion of whats better! Thats like me saying should I buy a Corolla or a Stratus, u know both are kinda expensive (its a metaphor to the time it takes to install and all the work into it) not all of us like to spend 24/7 installing setting up roms, we have girlfriends and such... haha but unlike my last sentence i do like it haha, im girlfriend less thanks to my android girlfriend... all im saying is be less of **** on these forums jebus just answer the dudes question without being an asshole... nooone cares about ur philosophy, nor my philosphy i just typed up hahaha i love being a hipocrite anyhow FOFF
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I don't know why I am going to respond to someone who obviously has an IQ of less than 40 or is less than 15 years old, but here goes...
Hi douchebag, i'm giving the OP good advice and telling him he should try each rom to see which one HE likes best. No 2 phones are the same, meaning what works great for one person, might not work great for him. Therefore he should try them both for a couple days to see which one works best for him, and gives him the features he wants, not what other people tell him he should have. No where does he ask which one is better, but he wants better battery life, which won't be so much the function of the rom, but the kernel he chooses, uses 3g/4g, how much he uses the phone, how many calls are made, etc. So with him using the phone differently form everyone else (as we all do), telling him what works best for me, may not work best for him (is this finally getting through to you?)
Your analogy was pointless, are you going to get a car just cause someone says to get it, or are you going to test drive it to see if you really like it?
nmtuna said:
Hey everyone if you don't have an opinion or knowledge of these roms, DON'T REPLY TELLING ME TO TRY THEM BOTH! Why have a forum to interact with other users if I wanted to test EVERY Rom blindly.
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Use Synergy..... Please.
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The best battery and performance I've found was Das BAMF Stripped, but I agree that you should flash each for a few days (only hours if you find one to run horrible) because different people do have different results.
bhbmaster said:
Turnyface and Goosey or whatever the hell. you guys are not so witty and apparently not to smart at the moment. They guy asked for advice to pick Rom A or Rom B based on your opinion of whats better! Thats like me saying should I buy a Corolla or a Stratus, u know both are kinda expensive (its a metaphor to the time it takes to install and all the work into it) not all of us like to spend 24/7 installing setting up roms, we have girlfriends and such... haha but unlike my last sentence i do like it haha, im girlfriend less thanks to my android girlfriend... all im saying is be less of **** on these forums jebus just answer the dudes question without being an asshole... nooone cares about ur philosophy, nor my philosphy i just typed up hahaha i love being a hipocrite anyhow FOFF
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Do yourself a favor and go lay on the railroad tracks.
....ANYway,
nmtuna, i would go with bamf 3.0 all day right now. i love their toolkit and for some reason I've been having trouble using nerozehl's dream kernel with Synergy (the dream kernels give me the best battery life). in terms of speed too i feel like bamf wins again. everything runs smoother than synergy's, though synergy may have the slight upper hand in terms of looks (clear drop down, 5 column app drawer, and among other relatively trivial things), but that can be easily fixed.
str1der_D said:
....ANYway,
nmtuna, i would go with bamf 3.0 all day right now. i love their toolkit and for some reason I've been having trouble using nerozehl's dream kernel with Synergy (the dream kernels give me the best battery life). in terms of speed too i feel like bamf wins again. everything runs smoother than synergy's, though synergy may have the slight upper hand in terms of looks (clear drop down, 5 column app drawer, and among other relatively trivial things), but that can be easily fixed.
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Thank you.... i did install Synergy for 5 minutes and after installing all my apps, a lot of them force closed and I couldn't connect to the web or market, via wifi or 3g....so I'm back on GingerBamf.... going to try BAMF 3.0 tonight.
Thanks for the info!
g00s3y said:
I don't know why I am going to respond to someone who obviously has an IQ of less than 40 or is less than 15 years old, but here goes...
Hi douchebag, i'm giving the OP good advice and telling him he should try each rom to see which one HE likes best. No 2 phones are the same, meaning what works great for one person, might not work great for him. Therefore he should try them both for a couple days to see which one works best for him, and gives him the features he wants, not what other people tell him he should have. No where does he ask which one is better, but he wants better battery life, which won't be so much the function of the rom, but the kernel he chooses, uses 3g/4g, how much he uses the phone, how many calls are made, etc. So with him using the phone differently form everyone else (as we all do), telling him what works best for me, may not work best for him (is this finally getting through to you?)
Your analogy was pointless, are you going to get a car just cause someone says to get it, or are you going to test drive it to see if you really like it?
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Yep, cars cost money, flashing roms cost you no money, just your time and maybe a racing heart hoping you don't brick.
bhbmaster said:
Turnyface and Goosey or whatever the hell. you guys are not so witty and apparently not to smart at the moment. They guy asked for advice to pick Rom A or Rom B based on your opinion of whats better! Thats like me saying should I buy a Corolla or a Stratus, u know both are kinda expensive (its a metaphor to the time it takes to install and all the work into it) not all of us like to spend 24/7 installing setting up roms, we have girlfriends and such... haha but unlike my last sentence i do like it haha, im girlfriend less thanks to my android girlfriend... all im saying is be less of **** on these forums jebus just answer the dudes question without being an asshole... nooone cares about ur philosophy, nor my philosphy i just typed up hahaha i love being a hipocrite anyhow FOFF
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I miss the good ol' days of sentence structure and punctuation.
nmtuna said:
Thank you.... i did install Synergy for 5 minutes and after installing all my apps, a lot of them force closed and I couldn't connect to the web or market, via wifi or 3g....so I'm back on GingerBamf.... going to try BAMF 3.0 tonight.
Thanks for the info!
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So in the end you are basically taking the original advice I gave to you. Because you tried one, didn't like the outcome, and now you will try the other. See that little thanks button, you should press that, lmao.
nmtuna said:
Alright everyone, Suggestions of either Synergy and BAmf Sense 3.0.
Battery life being most important what would you suggest???
Thanks
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*IF* battery life is most important, I'd stick to a Froyo ROM. BAMF 1.8.6 is based off the MR2.5 leak. Fast as heck and very long battery life.
As far as the choice between the two listed above, and since you take offense to people suggesting you try both, I will just say <flips coin> Das BAMF Seose 3.0.
I have used just about all the ROMs here in the 3D section, cleanROM, Steel ROM, WTSB, just to name a few.
With Virus' eternity ROM being the latest as of last night, I have found one I am permanently going to stick to. Not knocking any other's work, as I know you all help each other out quite a bit in developing these.
All that being said, and the point of this thread, I just wanted to publicly thank you all for the awesome experience you have provided since I rooted my phone and also wanted to tell you all that I am going to go through every thread with a ROM I used and I am going to buy each of you a few drinks.
Really appreciate the hard work. Thanks again
cobraboy85 said:
I have used just about all the ROMs here in the 3D section, cleanROM, Steel ROM, WTSB, just to name a few.
With Virus' eternity ROM being the latest as of last night, I have found one I am permanently going to stick to. Not knocking any other's work, as I know you all help each other out quite a bit in developing these.
All that being said, and the point of this thread, I just wanted to publicly thank you all for the awesome experience you have provided since I rooted my phone and also wanted to tell you all that I am going to go through every thread with a ROM I used and I am going to buy each of you a few drinks.
Really appreciate the hard work. Thanks again
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Yeah virus has a great rom, I used it for a few days. I just got MIUI to work on my 3D recently and that rom is great, i think its a toss up between the 2.
I have tried just about every rom in the forums and a lot of them are great solid daily drivers. Remember to donate to your favorite, or send them a PM to show your appreciation. Acknowledgement of a job well done by fans of these roms, kernels, mods, themes, ect... really does a long way with the devs.
SO making popcorn for this one.
#backhandedcomplimentandhesevenpayingyoutositthereandtakeit
<<bringing it since 2010>>
mazook98 said:
SO making popcorn for this one.
#backhandedcomplimentandhesevenpayingyoutositthereandtakeit
<<bringing it since 2010>>
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lmao.. you douche. how did i know you were going to show up? lol
i hope it's not a backhanded compliment, i have said over and over again that there are TONS of superb ROMs here, and also that I myself could never decide between them all, I don't know how many times I have been back and forth between several of them. It's an addiction, and eternity just has it all for me, the theme, the speed, all thrown into one.
If it came across as "his is better than yours" then I apologize. But that's not what was intended. It just does it for me in every way. As I said, looks, performance (both of which can be found in any other ROM I have tried) but this one has both for me. And to be perfectly honest, it's more the layout and look of it that I am diggin' man
EDIT*** and for the record, i am also trying to contribute to dev's that not only compiled the ROMs, but also had a hand in developing some aspect of it. I'm not trying to single anybody out here or play favorites by saying one is more superior than the other, just saying it's what works for me in every way. I hope my OP didn't come off that way, and again if it did, I apologize. Sometimes my fingers just kind of fly across the keyboard as thoughts come and in my head it makes perfect sense, but isn't quite conveyed the way it should be. So again, I apologize if that's the case.
What I have found is no matter how great the ROM is you will always have the urge to flash something new. Thats why we always say is addictive.
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Also I did not read it as his is better than yours.
Cobra, I must say, that you are absolutely masterful in your execution.
You're like Michael Jordan, bro.
(I absolutely respect the talent, but I will stick with my previous statement.)
"sometimes my hands just fly across the keyboard" = a buzzerbeater in the last seconds of a game 7,lol.
Anyone want popcorn?
<<bringing it since 2010>>
zone23 said:
What I have found is no matter how great the ROM is you will always have the urge to flash something new. Thats why we always say is addictive.
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Also I did not read it as his is better than yours.
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+1 Ditto... I've resisted for awhile, trying to see how long I last on the rooted Stock... I'll cave eventually.
Dear mazook,
you bastard. that is all.
regards,
cb
lul
the longer you wait, the harder you'll kick yourself for waiting.
zone23 said:
What I have found is no matter how great the ROM is you will always have the urge to flash something new. Thats why we always say is addictive.
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HA! so true, I can never resist myself.
Hi, my name is arqbrulo and I'm a flashaholic!
Like the title says, I am also an addicted flashaholic. The cure for me, so far, has been Boot Manager. I've been switching back and fourth between CM7, freEVO, MIUI, Myn's and Virus. Although, it's been a while since I went back to freEVO and Virus (been mainly with Myn's and MIUI). I'll have to try Virus again.
And, like Cobraboy said, thanks to all the devs for your hard work. All of you.
I'm quite the opposite. I hate flashing, setting up my phone how I like it, and reinstalling apps (titanium is great, but I prefer manual methods).
I like to stick with ONE ROM, and contiuously update it with what becomes available. Saves on the constant writing to my flash memory which will in turn guarantee me no bad blocks in the future, and also helps keep my phone running with hardly any downtime.
Unless it's AOSP and completely redone like CM7/MIUI (which boot manager is good for), what is the purpose in flashing between Sense ROMs at this point? They all are almost identical and what one lacks, you can easily get on another almost as easy as overwriting files. I will never understand the need to flash different looking, but same ROMs over and over agian. It's like having a battle between which color of the same car you want to drive. Maybe one even has a spoiler on the back, but it can easily be put on the other car.
freeza said:
I'm quite the opposite. I hate flashing, setting up my phone how I like it, and reinstalling apps (titanium is great, but I prefer manual methods).
I like to stick with ONE ROM, and contiuously update it with what becomes available. Saves on the constant writing to my flash memory which will in turn guarantee me no bad blocks in the future, and also helps keep my phone running with hardly any downtime.
Unless it's AOSP and completely redone like CM7/MIUI (which boot manager is good for), what is the purpose in flashing between Sense ROMs at this point? They all are almost identical and what one lacks, you can easily get on another almost as easy as overwriting files. I will never understand the need to flash different looking, but same ROMs over and over agian. It's like having a battle between which color of the same car you want to drive. Maybe one even has a spoiler on the back, but it can easily be put on the other car.
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Testify!!!