newbie hekp needed?!!! - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development

hi
i want to know which is the lastest wm 6.5 rom ????
and also how to upgrade to 3.5 spl or whatever its called
and whats the benefit from 1.2 to 3.5 spl ?
thanks

Hello,
Before you get into flashing a WM6.5 rom you MUST read about it in the WiKi first about SPL's and why they differ. You ca screw up your device if you dont!
Regards
Jay

hi
thanks.. already upgraded to spl 3.5 oli ans radio 1.58 but still dont unerstand whats the difference b/w 1.2 and 3.5

zohaer21 said:
hi
thanks.. already upgraded to spl 3.5 oli ans radio 1.58 but still dont unerstand whats the difference b/w 1.2 and 3.5
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SPL 3.5 partitioned about 20mb more memory to use for the Rom. So in other words AP 4.0 was to large to fit in the SPL 1.2 partition when it was finished, so Olinex developed SPL 3.5, and this robbed 20mb from the Program side (I think), to make room for it to fit. You can downgrade again to SPL 1.2 easy enough, but you must use the right rom with the right SPL. As a result you will find that some same roms (for example, Michy 4.1) comes in both SPL's the SPL 3.5 will have a few more bits of software in it or added UI.
Hope this helps
Jay

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hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena?

hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena? so i can flsh up the new Rom ?
hope you can help
thanks
lidan
lidan25 said:
hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena? so i can flsh up the new Rom ?
hope you can help
thanks
lidan
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You need to download AP 4.0 rom and run it as exactly told in the instructions, Follow them to the letter or you may mess up. Once thats loaded you can either run that rom or try the new AP 5.0 beta. once you have AP 4.0 on your athena you will have SPL 3.5 on as well. However you cant go back to using shipped rom's without using a SPL 3.5 type rom or swapping your SPL back, and I dont know how that is done.
Just read up first before doing anything!!!!
All the best
Jay
thanks
thanks i will look up for the info in hare so i will not have a problem to get it runing !!
lidan25 said:
thanks i will look up for the info in hare so i will not have a problem to get it runing !!
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No worries, But I cant stress the read the instructions first bit enough. No end of people have had problems by jumping the gun, including me!! I didnt take out my SD card and by the time I had realised what had happened it was to late. You can normaly get the rom onto your athena if you mess up, but you usualy end up without WiFi. so then that has to be sorted. Pawel and Irus have made some very good roms on SPL 3.5 and irus has added an HTC shipped rom if you want to go back to basics.
Jay
AP 4.0 rom
so shud i run this rom update ?? is this Irus Rom ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
are shud i be runing on the 6.0 ??
what shud i run if you are me ?
can you post the the link of Irus Rom and what do i need to do so i will have SPL 3.5 on my Athena and will not kill my Athena !!
lidan25 said:
so shud i run this rom update ?? is this Irus Rom ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
are shud i be runing on the 6.0 ??
what shud i run if you are me ?
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I'm not sure if you need WM 6.0 first, but if your ok with flashing roms then do WM 6.0 first!
Ive put the link you need on my post above.
And its a matter of personal choice if you want the roms or not. read the contents of them and make a choice. Pawels roms 4.0 and 5.0 are from the x7510 so about as good as you get. Irus roms are WM 6.1 so also very up to date. You do get a few minor bugs in cooked roms though.
Jay
i am with WM 6.0
i have no need to upged to it !!
but i was on to update to WM 6.1
and if Wifi will not work on AP4 so it is no good for me i need to know whats the best and will not be to bugy thats all !!
i have X7500
is AP 4.0
are Irus
will run on it ?
Flash AP4 - just follow the instructions and it will all work.
AP5 is still beta (but a very good one)
Or you could just flash one of irus' ROMS but I'd recommend AP4
whats the probleme with wifi in AP 4.0? i hare it isnt working
is thare a fix for it ??
lidan25 said:
i am with WM 6.0
and if Wifi will not work on AP4 so it is no good for me i need to know whats the best and will not be to bugy thats all !!
i have X7500
is AP 4.0
are Irus
will run on it ?
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You misunderstood, if flashing AP 4.0 goes WRONG then you end up with WiFi not working till its fixed! If you do everything right then everything runs well!
You will get a bug or two on any cooked rom, even shipped roms have them. but read the thread and you can see most have a cure!
Jay
As responderman said - it only doesn't work if you don't follow the instructions. Follow them and it works.
If you can't follow instructions don't flash your phone.
Igo 8 will work i did see a post in hare that thay say it may not work have you test'd it do you know any thing on that problem ?
man i think i am in to asking it that i am new with this 1 i had flsh't all my ppc but this 1 i didn't yet so i am like on a bit confused what to do and if i do it what Rom is best i know that i had Kaiser i liket the WM6.1 on it and for me to go beck to WM 6.0 is a big problem thats why i am in to asking all of that thing's !!
I think it's better to unlock only to spl1.2 and not 3.5 because spl3.5 device cannot come back to 1.2 at the moment. With spl3.5, you can only use ap3, ap4, and ap5, not not the stock rom.AP4 and 5 has many unresolved issues at the moment, so some users found themselves having to use ap3 at the end.
A smarter strategy is to go spl1.2, and you can use pk1, pk2, pk3, irus vanilla, irus lite, irus full, irus AP4, stock rom (many versions here), wm5 (technically possible, but I know of only one user who prefers that). Irus ROM is faster than AP4 and 5, according to a user who had used both. SPL1.2 leaves you with more memory too.
Ap5 in spl1.2 will very soon be available. Many spl3.5 users are waiting for the tool to come back to spl1.2, and they would love the chance to make this choice of spl once again.
eaglesteve said:
I think it's better to unlock only to spl1.2 and not 3.5 because spl3.5 device cannot come back to 1.2 at the moment. With spl3.5, you can only use ap3, ap4, and ap5, not not the stock rom.AP4 and 5 has many unresolved issues at the moment, so some users found themselves having to use ap3 at the end.
A smarter strategy is to go spl1.2, and you can use pk1, pk2, pk3, irus vanilla, irus lite, irus full, irus AP4, stock rom (many versions here), wm5 (technically possible, but I know of only one user who prefers that). Irus ROM is faster than AP4 and 5, according to a user who had used both. SPL1.2 leaves you with more memory too.
Ap5 in spl1.2 will very soon be available. Many spl3.5 users are waiting for the tool to come back to spl1.2, and they would love the chance to make this choice of spl once again.
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whats spl1.10.000?
if i have this what can i do ?
read this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2236522#post2236522
lidan25 said:
whats spl1.10.000?
if i have this what can i do ?
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Mate read this page! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2236522#post2236522
This guy had the same problem as you because he did not read the instructions
He solved it by reading the wiki and the links referenced.
We have told you what you are doing wrong as it is a common mistake.
Stop whinging and start reading!
My 2 Cents
Have a look at all the info on the several flavors of rom available for the Athena based decvices, choose the rom you feel fits your needs, take your time and follow the instructions (what ever rom you choose have a look at the ap4 wiki because it covers some issues that are WM6.1 related and are not AP4 unique) as with all cooked roms there may be some issues but if you follow instructions you should be fine (as already stated if you go with AP4 and upgrade to the new SPL 3.5 you can't go back for now, the AP team is working on a path back to the factory roms).
Cheers
BR

x7501 - how to upgrade from SPL 1.2 to SPL 3.5??

Hi,
It might be a stupid question but how can I upgrade my x7501 SPL 1.2 to SPL 3.5?? I was able to upgrade to AP4 Vanilla 4 SPL 1.2 (WM6.1) but I would like to try the Athena Project 5.0 Beta (SPL 3.5) ??
Any help would be appreciated....
thebluedrg said:
Hi,
It might be a stupid question but how can I upgrade my x7501 SPL 1.2 to SPL 3.5?? I was able to upgrade to AP4 Vanilla 4 SPL 1.2 (WM6.1) but I would like to try the Athena Project 5.0 Beta (SPL 3.5) ??
Any help would be appreciated....
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Its not a stupid question , but it has been asked and answered before.
This is one of the threads you would find using the search function
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403404&highlight=upgrade+spl1.2

T-Mobile Ameo WM 6.0 ROM SPL 3.5

Hi Folks,
I was needing a stock WM 6.0 T-Mobile ROM to run from SPL 3.5 so I extracted the RUU and sent it to our friend Irus, the result is here for all to use. He has kindly altered it to load on those who ONLY have SPL 3.5 on their Athenas. Many thanks to Irus for his continuing hard work on this forum. This rom is otherwise as you would get from T-Mobile, but adds to the list of Roms us SLP 3.5 users can have. If anyone wants the normal SPL version can get it free at the T-Mobile site.
SPL 3.5 LINK
http://rapidshare.com/files/126441674/tmo_spl_3.5.zip
All the best
Jay

Questions/Sum up regarding flashing Athena

Hi,
I won an auction for a T-Mobile Ameo and started to do my homework, while the phone doesn't arrive.
I already own a BlueAngel and two Universal, so it should not be that new to me. However, I do have a few questions:
SPL: as I understand it, this is like a second stage boot loader. There is the V1.2 by Oli, which is like patched to allow any firmware to be installed, as oposed to the original one, which only allows to flash signed firmware matching the country ID. Is this more or less correct?
SPL 3.5: there is a new second stage boot loader, which is required for WM6.1 like the AP4.0. Correct?
Downgrade back to SPL 1.2: this is now possible again?
Last question: there seems to be official 6.1 firmware versions from T-Mobile.
Can I just upgrade the WM5 untouched Ameo to the official WM6.1?
What if I have the german WM5 and want to use T-Mobile's WWE 6.1 instead of the german one?
Is there any stupid combination of firmware and SPL that will lead to a brick or a dead end?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
vma
I am newbie with X7500
vma said:
Hi,
I won an auction for a T-Mobile Ameo and started to do my homework, while the phone doesn't arrive.
I already own a BlueAngel and two Universal, so it should not be that new to me. However, I do have a few questions:
SPL: as I understand it, this is like a second stage boot loader. There is the V1.2 by Oli, which is like patched to allow any firmware to be installed, as oposed to the original one, which only allows to flash signed firmware matching the country ID. Is this more or less correct?
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I think is correct.
vma said:
SPL 3.5: there is a new second stage boot loader, which is required for WM6.1 like the AP4.0. Correct?
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SPL 3.5 is for ROMs adapted from X7510 (but not for X7510)
vma said:
Downgrade back to SPL 1.2: this is now possible again?
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Yes.
vma said:
Last question: there seems to be official 6.1 firmware versions from T-Mobile.
Can I just upgrade the WM5 untouched Ameo to the official WM6.1?
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Yes.
vma said:
What if I have the german WM5 and want to use T-Mobile's WWE 6.1 instead of the german one?
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You must make superCID in your X7500 (>>>SPL1.2)
vma said:
Is there any stupid combination of firmware and SPL that will lead to a brick or a dead end?
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I think ROM for SPL3.5 in SPL1.x and for SPL1.x in SPL 3.5
Thanks for the resonse.
So here is the sum up for all Newbies like myself:
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The Hitchiker's Guide to understanding SPL on Athena
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1) SPL = second stage bootloader
2) Athena 7500 is originally shipped with SPL 1.2
3) Athena 7510 is originally shipped with SPL 3.5
4) for different firmware to be loaded, one need a hacked SPL, that allows flashing unsigned firmware
5) There is a modified SPL 3.5 for the Athena 7500 that allows WM6.x firmware, ported from the Athena 7510 to run on the 7500
6) SPL 1.2 and 3.5 are incompatible, regarding firmware, due to the different amount of memory reserved for the ROM. A SPL 1.2 firmware won't run on SPL 3.5 and the other way around, neither. Trying to do so, will make the black screen or reset loop happen.
7) to get SPL 1.2 Olipro (the hacked one), you need to do the UNLOCKER procedure (search sticky)
8) to get SPL 3.5 Olipro, you need to install AP 4.0 (it's a WM6.1 firmware, that installs the SPL 3.5 Olipro as well)
9) to be able to install SPL 1.2 compatible firmware again, you need to follow the DOWNGRADER procedure (search sticky)
10) if you want to have, for warranty issues, the original SPL 1.2 back, you need to install an official dump. I am not 100% sure about this one...
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I hope my statements are correct. If not, please let me know, so this post can act as a beginners first read. Currently I have to confess, that it is quite confusing to understand these 10 points... And I am already familiar with modding the BA, Universal, HP 514, VDA GPS, etc.
Thanks,
vma
PS: Yes, I ask silly questions, but still I try to bring something back...
vma said:
2) Athena 7500 is originally shipped with SPL 1.2
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No, X7500 original is SPL 1.1
Is there a way to go back from i.e. SPL 1.2olipro to official SPL?
Thanks,
vma

Help - Best Rom X7500

Hello
I have a problem with my X7500.
I wanted a WM 6 ROM for him or WM5?
What is the best rom?
I want to install the SPL 3.5 because I saw some roms in the forum and liked them, but I spl 1:20
How do I install spl 3.5 on my X7500?
I installed a rom for spl 3.5 and he did not start, I know to recover to install the rom but tell me what is the best?
Thank you
Ozzaki
Ozzaki said:
Hello
I have a problem with my X7500.
I wanted a WM 6 ROM for him or WM5?
What is the best rom?
I want to install the SPL 3.5 because I saw some roms in the forum and liked them, but I spl 1:20
How do I install spl 3.5 on my X7500?
I installed a rom for spl 3.5 and he did not start, I know to recover to install the rom but tell me what is the best?
Thank you
Ozzaki
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Problem solved.
Thank You

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