I just installed the Screen Protector that was included in the HTC TD2 box. Although i centered it with high precision, there 2-3 spots on the screen that show when the device is off (when the screen is lit, they are invisible).
Someone else might not bother, but since I am a perfectionist, and also I have seen and plan to buy a very nice Screen Protector on the web that doubles as a mirror, I would like to remove the current one. However, I have two questions:
1. How can I take it off without making any scratch or other kind of damage to the device?
2. By taking it off, will there be any leftover glue/sticky stains on the screen? If yes, how can these be cleaned completely?
1. Just grab any corner with your nail (but be careful)
2. no
3. I did it yesterday, that's why i know
1. sellotape, leaving a peak in the middle so you can pull
Unless you've used them before, be aware that the 'Mirror' finish type also reflect when you are using them as well, not like when the device is off, but something you need to be aware of.
and yes, sellotape, I never use anything hard (even a finger nail) as you might damage the thing you're trying to protect (the screen) when its at its most vulnerable.
Thank you all for the info, guys! That was helpful!
@ Steeve24: No, I have never used the mirror ones before... Your comment about them demotivates me to buy one: If it is reflecting during the use of the screen, then this sounds rather unhelpful for seeing the screen clearly...
Remember that the touch screen is designed to be touched, with or without a screen protector. It will therefore withstand a certain amount of punishment from fingernails and suchlike. It isn't as desperately delicate as some people may have us believe.
jcan said:
Thank you all for the info, guys! That was helpful!
@ Steeve24: No, I have never used the mirror ones before... Your comment about them demotivates me to buy one: If it is reflecting during the use of the screen, then this sounds rather unhelpful for seeing the screen clearly...
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Following on from this, I just found the post that pointed this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523788&page=2 the pics speak for themselves, does look good when its turned off, but I think the reflections, especially in bright sun light could be a big problem.
Well, after seeing these pictures, the mirror protector is now definitively a no go for me....!
Update on the mirror protector: I saw it on a friend's device, and decided to give it a try after all... Conclusion: Its look is very impressive, and it can be useful sometimes (especially for the ladies! ). It's true that it degrades the image somehow (especially under direct sunlight), but I wouldn't say the effect is grave... In any case, I will watch its behaviour for a couple of days, to see if it is convenient or not.
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I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
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Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
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kirbygonzalo, thanks but even googling it I couldn't find anything about wire stripe or ribbon.
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I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
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sdk16420, thanks for sharing this, It is somehow a relief for me to know I'm not alone in this. Yet, I'll wait until next week to see if I can find more explanations, and then maybe I'll return it for a replace. It's especially bad for me, as I waited a lot to receive the silver one (a week or so), and I don't know if I can find another.
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It doesn't depend on Bravia Engine, unfortunately. It was also the first thing that came into my mind, tried it several times, even with deactivating and rebooting, but the effect is persistent.
Again, it's only visible on light backgrounds, especially white and large ones (browser, gmail, etc). If you read this, please check yours also find some time to post a reply with the result. I would be very grateful.
Thanks!
I have the blue model but i can barely see that pattern with a screen flashlight (on full white) and i don't find it annoying at all in daily use of the phone.
You can check the screen from a new phone in a shop, to see if it looks like yours ... or you have a eagle eye
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check softpedia also
I think I can see what you're talking about on my Red Neo but only if I max the screen brightness and look really closesly (like practically inserting the Neo into my eye). 99.99% of the time I don't notice a thing.
I just followed your description and found the same with my neo, so I think it the LCD design. Not an issue to me indeed.
Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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When I put brightness on 100%, and hold my finger on the light sensor, I don't see the screen getting darker. What does annoy me is that you can't make the brightness less than about 30%. I use widgetsoid for brightness adjustment, and the screen will only become darker than 30% if I hold my finger on top of the sensor. That sucks. I I want to sacve energy, I have to hold my hand there, while using the phone.
I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I use it a lot outside, and its sunlight legibility isn't as good as SAMOLEDs or others, but that I knew from reviews before the buy. If it wasn't for the problem in this thread, I wouldn't be so harsh on it.
LE I se new posters here. Do you noticed the problem described in the first post? Does it bother you?
Some time ago I noticed that, in some very special situations, like under direct and strong artificial/sun light and a particular angle, I'm able to see a couple of small, very faint spots, kinda similar to those left by dried moisture (like a drop of water) underneath the screen. At first I though it was my bad for putting on a wet screen protector, but just the other day I had a look at the device of a friend of mine (no protector wahtsoever), and looking closely I found similar spots, just not two but a single and bigger one. This got me a bit puzzled, so I decided to take a look at a third device, this time a demo unit in a shop, and guess what? Also that one had a similar mark right in the middle of the screen.
Now, not that this bothers me much, since you can't actually see it unless you really try (I can't even catch it with a camera), but I'd love to know from you guys if this is a common "flaw" or I just happened to grab a "flawed" handful of devices...
Yup, I have these dark patches. You can see them sometimes if you look at a particular angle when the phone is booting up. I can't see them any other time though
I can see dark patches when the screen is dimmed, especially at night, I can't see it any other times, Nokia returned it to me because they couldn't see it. So they asked to send it in again, it took them ten days to just flash a ROM....I was pissed as it is.
When the Display is off I can sometimes see some "blacker" areas on the screen. According to Nokia These are splices where the glass is somehow glued to the display.
Thank you guys, at least I feel a little better about it now...anyway it still puzzles me how this is the first device I own in years with this kind of issue, and I really had many, both resistive and capacitive, with or without gorilla and even made of plastic. I mean this isn't really a flaw, but knowing it's there annoys me. Damn, maybe I should really just stop being so OCD with my devices, it hurts
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Thank you guys, at least I feel a little better about it now...anyway it still puzzles me how this is the first device I own in years with this kind of issue, and I really had many, both resistive and capacitive, with or without gorilla and even made of plastic. I mean this isn't really a flaw, but knowing it's there annoys me. Damn, maybe I should really just stop being so OCD with my devices, it hurts
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I still would class it as a fault, it makes my eyes burn.
Are you speaking about the spots which are visible in the dark if the screen is black?
I saw them when I did my screen black in diagnostics app - lcd test.
So I took a picture of "black" screen with long exposure (iso 400, 30 seconds exposure) and show it in nokia care service. Week after I got new display
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Are you speaking about the spots which are visible in the dark if the screen is black?
I saw them when I did my screen black in diagnostics app - lcd test.
So I took a picture of "black" screen with long exposure (iso 400, 30 seconds exposure) and show it in nokia care service. Week after I got new display
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Actually those aren't really "spots", it's some sort of light leak that all amoled devices have when displaying plain black: even if all the leds are supposed to be off there's still some electricity going through them. I had that on all of my amoled devices, on my Desire, on my SGS2 and on my Omnia W as well, it doesn't look that great but it's fine I guess. Weird that you still managed to get the screen replaced, maybe your unit actually had some excessive light leak.
Here I'm talking about a different thing, given that you have them you should be able to see those spots I described even with the device completely off if you keep it under a strong light and at the right angle.
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Actually those aren't really "spots", it's some sort of light leak that all amoled devices have when displaying plain black: even if all the leds are supposed to be off there's still some electricity going through them. I had that on all of my amoled devices, on my Desire, on my SGS2 and on my Omnia W as well, it doesn't look that great but it's fine I guess. Weird that you still managed to get the screen replaced, maybe your unit actually had some excessive light leak.
Here I'm talking about a different thing, given that you have them you should be able to see those spots I described even with the device completely off if you keep it under a strong light and at the right angle.
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Can't reproduce that. I look closely but see nothing special.
Though, as Russian proverb says - the less you know the stronger you sleep
Here is a picture of screen with the spots I was posting about.
So, if anyone have scratched screen as I had, it is a good reason to get repair
PS note that picture was taken with long exposure. Actually my eyes need to get used to darkness to see glow.
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Can't reproduce that. I look closely but see nothing special.
Though, as Russian proverb says - the less you know the stronger you sleep
Here is a picture of screen with the spots I was posting about.
So, if anyone have scratched screen as I had, it is a good reason to get repair
PS note that picture was taken with long exposure. Actually my eyes need to get used to darkness to see glow.
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Yeah that's it, the good old light leak
Anyway the picture you took being overexposed gives the impression of a huge issue, so I guess they replaced the screen right after looking at that, even tho in normal darkness conditions it's definitely not so annoying. Good for you that you managed to get it replaced anyway
lol a 30 second exposure will bring out the worst of the display. I can understand they replaced it after showing that image that sort of tricks them because it will never be even close to that visible to the naked eye.
Completely normal for AMOLED displays.
Hello, one of my Android phone (not present on xda) got its LCD damaged apparently. Strange cause i don't remember hearting it ever, and it's supposed to have last gorilla glass.. Anyways, there are like very tiny vertical invisible lines which makes text & everything looks pixelated.
This still let you use the phone, just can't read small text. But after ~20' with screen on (any use) one side + other parts of it while really get fuc*** up more & more. Turning screen off & then on just after will make issue go.. Until next ~20' use.
If i push a little hard on a specific place, then lines will comes and go, once again after on/off. Sometimes they'll stay for a while, listing "ghosting" (or maybe it's not that word?). Any ways to "repair" this without disassembly?
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Hello, one of my Android phone (not present on xda) got its LCD damaged apparently. Strange cause i don't remember hearting it ever, and it's supposed to have last gorilla glass.. Anyways, there are like very tiny vertical invisible lines which makes text & everything looks pixelated.
This still let you use the phone, just can't read small text. But after ~20' with screen on (any use) one side + other parts of it while really get fuc*** up more & more. Turning screen off & then on just after will make issue go.. Until next ~20' use.
If i push a little hard on a specific place, then lines will comes and go, once again after on/off. Sometimes they'll stay for a while, listing "ghosting" (or maybe it's not that word?). Any ways to "repair" this without disassembly?
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Not likely without dis-assembly.
Nothing to be done about that without replacing the LCD. Gorilla glass has nothing to do with the LCD, for future reference. The Gorilla glass is only for the top glass.
I know that of course.. What i meant is : how could the LCD be damaged this way if 1/ i'm cautious 2/ it has gorilla glass.
Could this be a bad LCD that started dying only after days of being ON? I'm planning on getting same phone but i'm worried..
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I know that of course.. What i meant is : how could the LCD be damaged this way if 1/ i'm cautious 2/ it has gorilla glass.
Could this be a bad LCD that started dying only after days of being ON? I'm planning on getting same phone but i'm worried..
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Just depends on the phone. Nowadays many of the phones are so focused on being slim with tiny bezels that it doesn't take much to break the LCD. I've known people that broke their phone just from being in the front pocket. Never dropped or hit anything, etc. I own a little repair shop and have seen it more than once and have read about others online with similar issues. And sometimes parts just go bad. Just like any other tech based thing.
I see.. Ayways, as said i can still use it, things will just get bad after a moment, i'll just turn off/on and all's gone.
Will it goes on like this forever? I mean, unless accident happens, it won't get worse? Better either i guess..?
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Before you burn me at the stake, I know the title is vague, but I do have a few questions I need answered if possible.
First things first, I have an Alcatel Pop One Touch C7. You're probably not familiar with the phone but I don't think it actually matters in this case.
Now, I dropped my phone a couple of weeks ago, and while the screen didn't crack, it is definitely not working properly. What I think happened is that the cable connecting the display to the phone is slightly dislodged. The screen shows washed up colors and seems to lag when trying to display a new "frame", for example when I type in something and the screen slowly fades in said something. I'll post pictures as soon as I can.
I tried opening the phone, but when I unscrewed the back, I saw this sticker going from the battery slot all the way to the board.
I watched a few videos showing how to "unstick" the sticker, but I don't have a heatgun or tool that can help me do so.
My question is:
Do you think this sticker is important to the phone, or can I just rip it out or cut it?
Thanks in advance
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Before you burn me at the stake, I know the title is vague, but I do have a few questions I need answered if possible.
First things first, I have an Alcatel Pop One Touch C7. You're probably not familiar with the phone but I don't think it actually matters in this case.
Now, I dropped my phone a couple of weeks ago, and while the screen didn't crack, it is definitely not working properly. What I think happened is that the cable connecting the display to the phone is slightly dislodged. The screen shows washed up colors and seems to lag when trying to display a new "frame", for example when I type in something and the screen slowly fades in said something. I'll post pictures as soon as I can.
I tried opening the phone, but when I unscrewed the back, I saw this sticker going from the battery slot all the way to the board.
I watched a few videos showing how to "unstick" the sticker, but I don't have a heatgun or tool that can help me do so.
My question is:
Do you think this sticker is important to the phone, or can I just rip it out or cut it?
Thanks in advance
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First, no, don't cut or rip anything. In my opinion, you may have cracked your display in the drop. If you have access to a UV flashlight, turn the phone off and shine the light on the display and see if you see any cracks. If you can get a hair dryer, use that in place of a heat gun. I look at it like this, it's in the phone for a reason, therefore don't break anything.
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First, no, don't cut or rip anything. In my opinion, you may have cracked your display in the drop. If you have access to a UV flashlight, turn the phone off and shine the light on the display and see if you see any cracks. If you can get a hair dryer, use that in place of a heat gun. I look at it like this, it's in the phone for a reason, therefore don't break anything.
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Sadly, I won't be able to do anything about the screen given two of the screws are chewed up.
I'll probably just get a new phone and leave this one around for an emergency.
Can someone please clear up wether or not I need to purchase a screen "frame" also?
A family member cracked their screen. It's definitely not just the glass that is cracked. I found a few sellers that have what I need, but I have no idea what the "screen frame" is. The picture looks like a motherboard. Can someone please clear this up for me.
What exactly is the "screen frame"? In all the YouTube videos I've watched they just heat the thing up, pull it apart, disconnect some ribbon cables and then basically do the reverse to install the new screen.
Pretty sure I do not need the "frame", but I'd really like to know exactly what it is. In these pictures it looks like a board without camera, battery, et cetera. Is the "screen frame" something you need if the phone got slightly tacoed? The phone is now only *slightly* curved. It was so slight I was able to easily bend it back.
I'd just really like some clarification on this because I will likely end up waiting for the part(s) from China and I want to get the right thing(s).
Thank you.
EDIT: Okay, so I watched a few other videos. The frame is literally a frame that you transfer the small boards over to. Okay, so can someone please tell me *why* you would need to replace the frame? I mean, seems like if you need to replace the frame then some boards are also likely damaged and the phone is more or less (depending) junk. What is a situation where you would only need to replace the screen and the frame and nothing else? I just want to make sure I'm understanding this right.