I used to work with WM 5 & 6 phones, had plenty of them and enjoyed them all until I discovered the HTC Magic. What a giant leap forward!! Especially when using Google Apps as we do. I am however a bit reluctant to root the magic as it doesn’t seem like a walk in the park. I really miss being able to backup SMS messages and all the other apps that only run on rooted devices.
So my question is if the HERO is a rooted device or not.
Does anybody have an answer to this question? I’m so tempted to preorder one
the answer to the question should be probably yes seing how people have the system dump files. so its just a matter of time
In the meantime, you can back up SMS and MMS with GBackup from Market - backs up to Gmail automatically - can also back up call log and pics...
Dayzz
Apologies for my ignorance but what does rooting the phone mean? I've just come from using a Windows mobile phone - which I have been using since the original SPV!
Root access comes from Unix - Linux operating system speak (which is what Android runs on). Root basically means administrator privileges. So if you can run under root access then you have privileges to change/modify/do anything.
In the phone out of the box you do not have root to protect the phone from modifications that could brick it. People who do modifications under root access need to either know what they are doing, or follow a script from someone who knows what they are doing.
Ofcourse it's not 'rooted' when you unpack it from the box.
Eventually I'll guess the Hero will be rooted, but when and how... we'll just have to wait.
dipje said:
Ofcourse it's not 'rooted' when you unpack it from the box.
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Easy son... He asked, I provided.
barryallott said:
Easy son... He asked, I provided.
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wasn't ment to be offensive in any way ...
barryallott said:
Root access comes from Unix - Linux operating system speak (which is what Android runs on). Root basically means administrator privileges. So if you can run under root access then you have privileges to change/modify/do anything.
In the phone out of the box you do not have root to protect the phone from modifications that could brick it. People who do modifications under root access need to either know what they are doing, or follow a script from someone who knows what they are doing.
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But as in Unix /Linux you use an ordinary login for normal day to operations and su to to use root. You have to consciously change your privelidges which is safer!!
Simon
Lots of useful info on allsorts, including rooting and other hacks here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542452
Daisy xx
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In addition to enabling ADB, SuperNooter will also mount the NC /system partition and copy over Superuser.apk and the su binary. This means you do not need z4root! You should see Superuser in your Extras/App Drawer after booting from the SD card.
Tested with WinImage under Windows and dd under Ubuntu.
http://muffinworld.net/android/nookcolor/supernooter0.1.zip
Thanks for making things even easier!
-CC
Do we just write this to the sdcard like nooter? Install it like nooter? Do we need to wipe anything if we are previously rooted with nooter? Any adb commands needed?
A little more info and/or a tutorial would be really helpful
Novarider said:
Do we just write this to the sdcard like nooter? Install it like nooter? Do we need to wipe anything if we are previously rooted with nooter? Any adb commands needed?
A little more info and/or a tutorial would be really helpful
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Yup...do exactly what you did with nooker only use this image. Same steps.
Ok but do we need to wipe anything if we already used nooter? I don't want to brick my NC. Who is going to be the first to try it out? I would but I don't know anything about programing so if I messed it up I would be screwed
You can use supernooter on top of an existing nooter to gain Superuser. I would not try it if you already have Superuser (why would anyone?).
Mistar Muffin...you are the man!!!!
Just picked up a NC today and have been prepping for the past couple days...and pleasantly surprised that the steps have diminished with this.
Thank you!!!
How safe is this? The other utility you created seems to be bricking devices. I'm not saying your a bad guy or anything I just don't want to brick my NC
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How safe is this? The other utility you created seems to be bricking devices. I'm not saying your a bad guy or anything I just don't want to brick my NC
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OK. The other utility Mistar Muffin created does not "brick" devices.
(1) I've yet to see a NC truly bricked. Only people who crap their pants when things don't go perfect.
(2) The script that is having problems is not Mistar Muffin's script. It is one that someone else (rboatright) created for people who run Winblowz and it is only based on Mistar Muffin's script.
Seriously folks... You REALLY need to watch the tone here and at a minimum, get your facts straight.
<under breath>What a bunch of crybabies!</under breath>
I was actually crafting a very similar reply when I saw yours, johnopsec....thanks for setting Novarider straight!
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OK. The other utility Mistar Muffin created does not "brick" devices.
(1) I've yet to see a NC truly bricked. Only people who crap their pants when things don't go perfect.
(2) The script that is having problems is not Mistar Muffin's script. It is one that someone else (rboatright) created for people who run Winblowz and it is only based on Mistar Muffin's script.
Seriously folks... You REALLY need to watch the tone here and at a minimum, get your facts straight.
<under breath>What a bunch of crybabies!</under breath>
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What tone? I didn't say a single bad thing about the guy. I just dont want to brick my NC since im not a programmer and probably dont have the skill to fix it if something went wrong
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I was actually crafting a very similar reply when I saw yours, johnopsec....thanks for setting Novarider straight!
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Setting me straight? LOL I simply asked if it is safe. I didn't need setting straight all you had to do was say yes its safe and that you didn't write the program people are having problems with. The other thread you started has people in it that are getting "bricked" devices. I didn't know you didn't write the particular program that was causing this. I was not implying you were doing anything wrong I just don't want a "bricked" device.
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What tone? I didn't say a single bad thing about the guy.
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Setting me straight? LOL I simply asked if it is safe. I didn't need setting straight all you had to do was say yes its safe and that you didn't write the program people are having problems with.
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Novarider, I think that it's just the frustration of people coming on the forum and making posts with big bold red letters that say "YOU BRICKED MY NC!!!" and the like... As many others (including myself) have already stated, it's very difficult to brick a NC. I've yet to do it and I've done some VERY off-the-wall stuff with mine. My personal frustration comes from those two things.
So, sorry if you felt wrongly persecuted by my post. It wasn't directed only at you but at others who have screamed, yelled and lamented about one thing or another "bricking" their NC.
Friends?
Fair enough.
I have a question about this Utility. If I install this will I be able to gain access to the data folder so I can drop some apks into it with root explorer? I would like to be able to use a different keyboard and I was reading I need to be able to rename a keyboard and drop it there for it to work.
I had used adb to install superuser but it didn't do anything once installed so I deleted it
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How safe is this? The other utility you created seems to be bricking devices. I'm not saying your a bad guy or anything I just don't want to brick my NC
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What are talking about "bricking" devices? Have yet to see anyone claim to have "bricked" a Nookcolor...
That being said, don't think it's possible to brick one with current set of tools..
-CC
Novarider said:
Fair enough.
I have a question about this Utility. If I install this will I be able to gain access to the data folder so I can drop some apks into it with root explorer? I would like to be able to use a different keyboard and I was reading I need to be able to rename a keyboard and drop it there for it to work.
I had used adb to install superuser but it didn't do anything once installed so I deleted it
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This should do it since the script installs Superuser and Root Explorer can perform the functions mentioned (you may need to hit the button on the top of the program for R/W). As with any mod - proceed with caution or find a step by step to guide you.
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This should do it since the script installs Superuser and Root Explorer can perform the functions mentioned (you may need to hit the button on the top of the program for R/W). As with any mod - proceed with caution or find a step by step to guide you.
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I can follow the root guide on nookdevs site and just replace the program with this one right? I have root explorer now but it doesnt allow access to data since it can't be granted root access
Novarider said:
I can follow the root guide on nookdevs site and just replace the program with this one right? I have root explorer now but it doesnt allow access to data since it can't be granted root access
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Yep. That will do it.
I got the droid-x multi-touch keyboard working a few days ago but that was several resets ago as well. Things didn't go exactly perfect for me and there were several reboots where I didn't have a keyboard at all. I can't remember the exact steps I took but, I eventually side-loaded the droid-x keyboard and it worked. I'll tinker more tonight on that. It's beer-thirty now though!
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Yep. That will do it.
I got the droid-x multi-touch keyboard working a few days ago but that was several resets ago as well. Things didn't go exactly perfect for me and there were several reboots where I didn't have a keyboard at all. I can't remember the exact steps I took but, I eventually side-loaded the droid-x keyboard and it worked. I'll tinker more tonight on that. It's beer-thirty now though!
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If you figure out an easy way to install the keyboard without having to rename files in system or anything like that please let me know. I hate the stock keyboard on the NC
Step-by-Step Needed
Does the script install Root Explorer or do we still have to use ADB to install apps? Is it possible to put APK's on an SD card and install them?
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Does the script install Root Explorer or do we still have to use ADB to install apps? Is it possible to put APK's on an SD card and install them?
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It would be great if this activated it because I can't install apks from the sd card now
Hello XDA-Forum users,
I ask you a question: How does Android Root works ?
I mean, for example, How does it works in Nexus One ?
This would be an understanding question to know more about how I get root from my Phone (Nexus One, for example) from scratch, from sources.
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Rooting basics:
http://lifehacker.com/5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone
For details on how to do it on your device, Google or use the forum search. Lots of rooting information that is device dependent out there.
It basically gives your phone permission to do almost anything. It is similar to giving a user in Windows Administrator rights. It is called super user. You can do many things such as removing unwanted apps and overclocking.
This is not what I mean, I asks for an explaining in which the question is "How the root is possible? What active the root ?" Probably a kernel exploit, or stuff like that, to understand the underground passage to take it, from an hack view.
So, How works a root utility (such SuperOneClick) to set gid to 0 ?
Valid question, I am also interested in learning this.
In other words, if I were to perform the rooting manually, where can I find such info?
And some of the question is why su must be in some diredctories, and can't be run from /data/local/tmp for example?
Someone can enlighten us?
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Someone can enlighten us?
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The general approach is taking advantage of bugs in the android OS
The process works something like this
User crafts some special data that contains a "payload" (the script/executable that we want to run)
User runs a system process that has root privileges and gets it to open the special data
The bug causes the system process to get confused by the data, and ends up running the embedded script
The embedded script runs with the same privileges as the system process, and thus can stuff that normal users aren't allowed to do (e.g. installs the SU app)
Commonly, things such as buffer overflows are used
So after gaining root access, which apps can run as root?
Or the user becomes root(as in desktop), and can run all types of apps?
Can root app(run as root) access everything?? Or app permission still applies?
Is it that system exploit is always used to run root apps?
can someone explain in technical details? not how to root.
are rooting programs open source??
What is the root procedure
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So after gaining root access, which apps can run as root?
Or the user becomes root(as in desktop), and can run all types of apps?
Can root app(run as root) access everything?? Or app permission still applies?
Is it that system exploit is always used to run root apps?
can someone explain in technical details? not how to root.
are rooting programs open source??
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Hi guys!
I have the same question and after searching and asking find this!
it is good!!
hope it works!
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...hat-are-the-pre-requisites-for-it-to-work-wha
also look at the suggestedpages at the right of this page!
Hi, I would like to have root access to my phone, but not necessarily with a custom ROM. I would also prefer to not change my bootloader.
What exactly is rooting? Is it replacing the whole system image with an image that gives the user root access? Or is it just like enabling sudo for the user? Or is a smaller part replaced? (I am somewhat familiar with electronics, computers and Linux, but I find the Android hacking a bit confusing )
Also, is it possible to run stock Android, only with root access? Will the access be lost when upgrading?
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Hi, I would like to have root access to my phone, but not necessarily with a custom ROM.
DEV section rooting post /
What exactly is rooting?
root is the user account in Linux with all privileges. The root user can edit anything on the system. For safety reasons, users do not have all those privileges. When you root your phone, you will gain write access to areas of the phone you couldn't previously access and are allowed to run more commands in the terminal. Because applications do not get a lot of privileges, some of them require you to root the device in order for them to function properly (or fully).
Also, is it possible to run stock Android, only with root access?
Yes and Yes lost root on upgrade usually .
jje
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Thank you. How is the rooting performed? Is only an ACL modified, or is a more fundamental part of the system changed (like the kernel, bootloader etc)?
I know that a custom ROM might be unstable/experimental, but does the same apply for rooting, or is the modification so small that one could expect the exact same stability as in the stock ROM?
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Thank you. How is the rooting performed? Is only an ACL modified, or is a more fundamental part of the system changed (like the kernel, bootloader etc)?
I know that a custom ROM might be unstable/experimental, but does the same apply for rooting, or is the modification so small that one could expect the exact same stability as in the stock ROM?
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All your questions are explained in detail in the Development section
Sorry, I did not find it. However, I read this without getting smarter. This video suggests that rooting is a process that does something with your phone without replacing everything. An exact list of what the rooting tools do would be perfect
Not all tools do the same thing. To get a specific answer, you will have to ask the person that came up with whatever rooting tool you are referring to. Some phones take more to root than others.
Hi all, I'm new in the forum.
I'm working on Motorola Xoom MZ605.
My question is....Is there any way to get root on that tablet without lost the data? and my other question is, Is possible to get temporary root?
I need to extract all the information from the tablet making a bit to bit copy but I don`t have permission to do that.
Can somebody tell me how to?
filippifranco said:
Hi all, I'm new in the forum.
I'm working on Motorola Xoom MZ605.
My question is....Is there any way to get root on that tablet without lost the data? and my other question is, Is possible to get temporary root?
I need to extract all the information from the tablet making a bit to bit copy but I don`t have permission to do that.
Can somebody tell me how to?
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You have 3 options that I know of offhand:
1) Use a Cellebrite Forensic device. Unless you have one, it's too expensive to buy. (~$10K). I've had pretty good success with them.
2) Use Oxygen Forensics. I just bought their auto-rooting module ($3K for the toolset) a coupee weeks ago, but I've tried 3 phones and haven't gotten a bit-for-bit copy of any of the 3. I don't think it is reliable enough to recommend.
3) root the phone via an exploit that will leave a "su" command in place. Then use "adb shell" to access the phone from a PC. Then put a virgin sdcard in the phone and use dd to make a bit-for-bit copy of all the partitions.
I've been in computer forensics for 10 years and testified several times as an expert. I believe I could convince a jury that any of the above are legitimate methods, but I've yet to try method 3 for a real case.
If you truly need something that will hold up in court, I suggest you find an experienced cell phone forensic examiner and have then use a cellebrite. It's a pretty common tool among cell phone forensic experts.
Greg
Okay so I was told to come here because my phone doesn't have its' own forum yet (Not at all surprising..), so I'm just going to quote my post back on the other thread that told me to come here instead.
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Okay so I've had this phone for little over 10 months now and within that time I've managed to achieve root (unreliable but it works at the very least) in that time as well as learned a fair amount about Linux and android alike (Not a whole lot but I know some stuff) though I've now come to the point of I actually want to give my phone a proper root instead of this faulty solution I have currently. I (barely) managed to get my phone rooted using Kingoroot and I've played plenty with my phones' innards in that time, removed system apps, added my own selection to the system but some apps in my phone that use root don't work even with root permission granted which is why I'm wanting to replace Kingoroot with ChainFires' SuperSU binaries, could anybody help me with simple instructions for someone who doesn't actually know very much regarding how root and SU bins work inside of android? My phone's using 4.4.2 kitkat.
Just a few disclaimers first to get misconceptions out the way:
1. I do not have a custom recovery nor is one available for my phone (Samsung galaxy young 2 (SM-S130H) for those who want to know)
2. I'm currently unable to use the internet on my phone as I lack Wi-Fi to do so (router is dead) so I'm manually installing app packages through ADB, so if something needs an internet connection on my phone it's not going to work for me, for now..PC still has net access.
3. I have access to ADB shells' SU but not ADB root so I hope you don't need that from me.
4. This phone does not have a fastboot mode. (That I can find anyway..) Only a download mode from what I've found.
Can anybody help me out with telling me what I'll need to be doing in regards to getting this done?
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So, can anyone here knowledge on the matter can assist me with this instead of me having to figure it out on my own?