I just went on a trip and about 2 or so hours into the trip my cell phone went dead even though it was plugged in. I was using my GPS. I recharged my phone and tried again and I could see the battery was draining even though it was plugged in.
Is there a fix for this problem? I'm was using Sprint ROM, but switched to Might Mikes, but still have the same problem.
what ends up happening with the pda devices is that it looks to the battery for energy only. even if it's plugged in if you drain the battery faster than it can charge then it will go dead. i don't know if there is even a different rom that can cercumvent that, but that would be the only way to fix it.
...or if you could find a gps program that uses less energy. that should work too.
I tried again using the GPS, but this time I had a DC to AC converter and plugged in my phone. Although I didn't run the GPS that long, maybe a half hour or so, the phone battery didn't loose any noticeable charge. It was fully charged when I stopped the GPS.
I'm also looking to replace my battery with a higher capacity battery. Can anyone make a recommendation? I don't want a larger battery as far as size, but one that has more capacity. Let me know if there is a battery on the market that will meet my requirements.
Touch Pro has a safety feature to stop charging when the temperature sensor goes past a certain point. It is much more likely to reach that point when you are running GPS and in car with the sun beating down.
Workaround for that is to turn on the AC.
I had the same issue this May when driving through GA while on vacation.
The phone does stop the charging process when it feels it is too hot but will continue to operate thus discharging the battery quickly but never letting you get a charge in.
My solution was to buy a mount for the phone that clipped onto the AC vent and let cool air run on it the entire time and that solved the problem.
Hope that helps.
Yes, anytime I run the GPS the phone does get warm. However, I do have a vent mount holder for the phone with AC blowing right on the back of it. That doesn't resolve my problem.
I'm interested in a very high capacity battery if anyone can personally recommend one.
Have only had my sprint pro for 2 weeks and concur the battery life is bad. I find heating problems during lots of tasks and sometimes doing seemingly nothing(in sleep mode). I found that my gps was draining the battery even when not in use. I installed a cab to toggle it and that has helped alot. My data is set to go off automatically after a short time also. I'm trying every tweak I can think of and googling for more.
The oem batt was 1340mAh, My old gsm pro had an extended 1500mAh which I tried , with little improvement. I'm currently running a 2000mAh extended with the enlarged door and this helps but lots of juice is still draining away. On a positive note, the warmness seems to be mostly gone. My goal is to be able to go a full day with moderate usage. Today may be the day. I think I saw a 3000mAh as well, maybe at seidio. I was going to return the pro and get another one, but it sounds like they are all the same issue. An awesome phone, a real shame this is a problem. I think data off and gps off will help me alot. My $.02
Can you share the GPS toggle off and on program?
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Can you share the GPS toggle off and on program?
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Give this a try.
I installed the program and I see the GPStoggle.dll under windows, but I don't see anyway to run the program? How do I enable and disable it?
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Hi guys, I finally sorted my issues with the disappearing radio, but now it seems I have another issue.
Starting 2 days ago my battery just started draining like crazy, I'm lucky to get an hour or 2 of use out of the thing.
I noticed when I plug it in to charge it it takes forever and the device gets extremely hot. The battery is so hot you can almost burn yourself when you touch it. Maybe its just my imagination, but it seems to swell slightly when it gets very hot as well.
Obviously I have stopped using my device as I am worried about the battery catching fire after all the Lion battery issues lately.
Just wondering if anyone else had experienced this? Is the battery covered by any type of warranty?
I'm sure I need a new battery and I'm hoping that will fix the issue, hopefully its not some internal problem that is causing it to overheat.
Thanks in advance,
-Kai
Have you backed up your device and hard reset to rule out any software issues? I've run into this before, and there was something running on my device that cause the battery to drain VERY quickly. Never figured out what it was, but after a hard reset and reinstall, everything was fine.
I've had similar issues since putting black 3.01 on, draining anyway, not overheating as yet. I have stopped the battery draining by instaling Daniel Herrero's Bandswitch and setting it to gsm during the day, it seems to switch between gprs and hsdpa more frequently now with 3.01 which drains the battery enormously. Havent done a hard reset yet though.
you should feel my battery after tethering for hours, sigh....
Hmmm, mine spends half the day tethered at work, no heat issues thus far (apart from one time I left it under my pillow (too much Jack) and the heat woke me up (Not a great way to ease into a hangover)). I only ever have battery drain issues.
Yeah I dont think its a software issue as I have done several hard resets, and tried it with a couple of different Rom's and radio's, with no other software installed.
As for the 3g draining the battery, I have my phone set to only use Quadband, not UMTS or 3G.
I'm hoping to pick up a new battery tomorrow and maybe that will solve my problem.
I wonder if I might be able to get a new battery for free from HTC? I'm going to send them an email and see what they say.
-Kai
same problem here
Hey invictive,
i have the same problem, and am also thinking about buying a new battery. plz let me know how the new battery work.
thx
I've just had the same problem. It was red hot in my belt clip & bat low warning.
Mines only 3 months old, been fine until now.
There were a lot of apps running incldung camera & wifi.
I'm going to charge again & close all apps, see if its ok.
had the same problem with my first tytn. called htc support (germany) and they told me that this behavior is not normal (obvious)
i recieved a free replacement, allthough i had to send in my tytn and not only the battery.
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it was even worse with wifi turned on...
I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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Thanks for your reply.
I did that yesterday. I repaired the firmware and reloaded all the application one by one from scratch. The only thing I restored is contacts so that I could eliminate all the other factors which can cause this issue.
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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Thanks once again for the reply.
I tired that too every time I try to charge the phone. Still it refuses to complete the charging.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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+1 it helped me off this problem
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What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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Good idea. I will try that as well as try to do a clean wipe and just try to charge with nothing loaded in. That will give a better idea where the problem is.
Thanks for the great tip, I will update you tomorrow.
Had that happen before, I had to remove sim card and let it drain out slowly for a week, then charge. Problem solved
I think I had similar problem, except that my processor went on full load when its almost fully charged causing it to drain the battery instead. Still lookin for answer to that, will wiping battery stats help?
I reset my phone to factory and did a re-flashing again using SEUS and I tried it charging immediately without loading any application (only loaded Battery Monitor Widget from Market to see the battery temperature and mA units drawn) and wow, it charged like a normal X10. So I guess it has something to do with whatever I loaded or modded it with.
I'm trying to find it out. Later tonight I will try to load all the application one-by-one and try again to charge to see whether I can isolate it.
During this process, I did takeout my SIM card for a period of 1 hour or so, so not sure whether that did the trick (If that's the case, thanks to gogogu)
In the meantime, I have a strong feeling it would be due to the flashtool and new recovery, but again there isn't any proof. I suspect this because this is the new thing I did compared to my old phone.
Any thoughts are welcome.
Monitor the CPU usage as well
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Monitor the CPU usage as well
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I don't have issues with processor. It works at full throttle when it supposed to work and then goes back to normal.
Hrmmm alright, but if you ever had the draining issue while charging and the battery temp rises up again. Check the CPU usage just incase
After yesterday's event, seems like stable (I did face the same issue once). Not sure which cured it and currently monitoring...
EDIT: Back to square one. The issue started again and the battery refues to fully charge! I'm going mad
Finally given up, sent for service and came back after 5 days of repair.
Repair Notes: No problem found !!!
But today morning I tried to charge and it's the same issue . Makes me go mad. Really, I don't know what to do!
Please help me friends .......
I too have exactly the same problem with my x10i.....
tried everything like rooting, using stock & custom ROMs, etc... still problem persist ...
while charging , power goes from 900mA to 200mA or lower, & doesn't reach 100% full...
i use current widget from market to read the power values ....
please help me friends .... to resolve my problem ...
Thanks a lot...
Makzer.
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hello mates...
please reply to my problem dear friends ..
looking forward ...
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I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
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What program do you use to check your battery temperature. I rememeber there was one that wass bettery draining. The same is also possible with battery level monitor
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Use this tool forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415600
Please read this. There is a lot of batt info on xda just search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
I realize that much of this is common knowledge on XDA. Still, every day I see people post about how their phone "loses" 10% as soon as it comes off the charger. I also have friends who can't understand why their battery drains so quickly. Trying to explain this to people without hard numbers is often met with doubt, so I figured that I'd actually plot it out with real data.
So it's not a piece that is optimized for this audience, but I hope that you find it interesting.
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Your Smartphone is Lying to You
(and it's not such a bad thing)
Climbing out of bed, about to start your day, you unplug your new smartphone from its wall charger and quickly check your email. You've left it plugged in overnight, and the battery gauge shows 100%. After a quick shower, you remember that you forgot to send your client a file last night. You pick up your phone again, but the battery gauge now reads 90%. A 10% drop in 10 minutes? The phone must be defective, right?
A common complaint about today's smartphones is their short battery life compared to older cell phones. Years ago, if you accidentally left your charger at home, your phone could still make it through a weeklong vacation with life to spare (I did it more than once). With the newest phones on the market, you might be lucky enough to make it through a weekend.
And why should we expect anything else? Phones used to have a very short list of features: make and receive phone calls. Today we use them for email, web surfing, GPS navigation, photos, video, games, and a host of other tasks. They used to sport tiny displays, while we now have giant touch screens with bright and vibrant colors. All of these features come at a cost: large energy requirements.
Interestingly enough, improvements in battery management technology have compounded the average user's perception of this problem. Older phones were rather inelegant in their charging behavior; usually filling the battery to capacity and then switching to a trickle current to maintain the highest charge possible. This offered the highest usage time in the short-term, but was damaging the battery over the course of ownership. As explained at Battery University, "The time at which the battery stays at [maximum charge] should be as short as possible. Prolonged high voltage promotes corrosion, especially at elevated temperatures."[1]
This is why many new phones will "lose" up to 10% within a few minutes of coming off the charger. The reality is that the battery was only at 100% capacity for a brief moment, after which the battery management system allowed it to slowly dip down to around 90%. Leaving the phone plugged in overnight does not make a difference: the phone only uses the wall current to maintain a partial charge state.
To monitor this, I installed CurrentWidget on my HTC ADR6300 (Droid Incredible), an app that can log how much electric current is being drawn from the battery or received from the charger. Setting it to record log entries every 10 seconds, I have collected a few days worth of data. While many variables are involved (phone hardware, ROM, kernel, etc) and no two devices will perform exactly the same, the trends that I will describe are becoming more common in new phones. This is not just isolated to a single platform or a single manufacturer.
Chart 1 shows system reported battery levels over the course of one night, with the phone plugged in to a charger. Notice that as the battery level approaches 100%, the charging current gradually decreases. After a full charge is reached, wall current is cut completely, with the phone switching back to the battery for all of its power. It isn't until about two hours later that you can see the phone starts receiving wall current again, and even then it is only in brief bursts.
The steep drop in reported battery seen past the 6.5 hour mark shows the phone being unplugged. While the current draw does increase at this point (since the phone is being used), it still cannot account for the reported 6% depletion in 3 minutes. It should also be obvious that maintaining a 100% charge state is impossible given the long spans in which the phone is only operating on battery power.
Using the data from CurrentWidget, however, it is quite easy to project the actual battery state. Starting with the assumption that the first battery percentage reading is accurate, each subsequent point is calculated based on mA draw and time. Chart 2 includes this projection.
Now we can see that the 6% drop after unplugging is simply the battery gauge catching up with reality.
The phone manufacturers essentially have three choices:
1. Use older charging styles which actually maintain a full battery, thereby decreasing its eventual life
2. Use new charging methods and have an accurate battery gauge
3. Use new charging methods and have the inaccurate battery gauge
Option one has clearly fallen out of favor as it prematurely wears devices. Option two, while being honest, would most likely be met with many complaints. After all, how many people want to see their phone draining down to 90% while it is still plugged in? Option three therefore offers an odd compromise. Maybe phone companies think that users will be less likely to worry about a quick drop off the charger than they will worry about a "defective" charger that doesn't keep their phone at 100% while plugged in.
Bump It. Or Should You?
One technique that has gained popularity in the user community is "bump charging." To bump charge a device, turn it off completely, and plug it into a charger. Wait until the indicator light shows a full charge (on the ADR6300, for example, the charging LED changes from amber to green) but do not yet turn the device back on. Instead, disconnect and immediately reconnect the power cord. The device will now accept more charge before saying it is full. This disconnect/reconnect process can be repeated multiple times, each time squeezing just a little bit more into the battery. Does it work?
The following chart plots battery depletion after the device has received a hefty bump charge (6 cycles) and then turned on to use battery power. Note that the system does not show the battery dropping from 100% until well over an hour of unplugged use, at which point it starts to steadily decline. Again, however, it should be obvious that the battery gauge is not syncing up with reality. How could the rate of depletion be increasing over the first 5 hours while the rate of current draw is relatively steady? And why does the projected battery line separate from the reported levels, but then exactly mirror the later rises and falls?
The answer, of course, is that bump charging definitely works. Rather than anchoring our projected values to the first data point of 100%, what happens if we anchor against a later point in the plot?
Aligning the data suggests that a heavy bump charge increases initial capacity by approximately 15%. Note that the only other time that the lines separate in this graph was once again when the phone was put on the charger and topped up to 100%. Just as with the first set of graphs, the phone kept reporting 100% until it was unplugged, dropped rapidly, and again caught up with our projections.
So what does it all mean?
If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge. There are currently people experimenting with "fixes" for this, but I have yet to see one that works. Be warned, however, that repeated bump charging will wear your battery faster and begin to reduce its capacity. If you are a "power user" who will buy a new battery a few months from now anyway, this presumably isn't a concern. If you are an average consumer who uses a device for a few years, I would recommend that you stay away from bump charging. The bottom line is that you don't really "need" to do it unless you are actually depleting your battery to 0% on a regular basis.
If you are someone who can top off your phone on a regular basis, do it. Plug it in when you're at home. Plug it in when you're at your desk. As explained by Battery University, "Several partial discharges with frequent recharges are better for lithium-ion than one deep one. Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because there is no memory."[2]
Beyond that, the best advice I can offer is to stop paying such close attention to your battery gauge and to just use your phone. Charge it whenever you can, and then stop obsessing over the exact numbers. If you really need more usage time, buy an extended-capacity battery and use it normally.
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My Nook is 10.5 months old and I have recently noticed it only hold charge for 2-3 hours.
I am still running 1.40 and rooted so I could block OTA. I haven't done any other modifications to the tablet.
Is this a common problem? I need to charge this thing everyday now, where before I could go several days without recharge.
Thanks for the help.
Steve
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My Nook is 10.5 months old and I have recently noticed it only hold charge for 2-3 hours.
I am still running 1.40 and rooted so I could block OTA. I haven't done any other modifications to the tablet.
Is this a common problem? I need to charge this thing everyday now, where before I could go several days without recharge.
Thanks for the help.
Steve
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haven't used stock in a long time, but is there an option to turn wifi off when the tablet goes to sleep? ur wifi might be sucking up power continuously if it doesn't shut off.
Yes, that is correct, Wifi can be switch off. And I have done that. But the drain has become very significant.
I am considering going for a warranty repair, but my guess I will get a refurb with another weak battery, and hassled because I have rooted and blocked OTA.
Are most folks just running off their chargers?
If folks have bad batteries are they replacing them themselves?
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Yes, that is correct, Wifi can be switch off. And I have done that. But the drain has become very significant.
I am considering going for a warranty repair, but my guess I will get a refurb with another weak battery, and hassled because I have rooted and blocked OTA.
Are most folks just running off their chargers?
If folks have bad batteries are they replacing them themselves?
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you can attempt to request for a new nook tablet placement. After two refurbished replacements with the same problem as my original NT. they sent me a new Nook Tablet and so far so good. It's worth a shot.
Came off the island today and went to the big green city. Stopped at BN and did some talking with them and also to the service center at the same time. The service center said they would send me a refurb. My 3-4hour of run time is way under the 11.5 hours you should get for the e-reader mode only. That fella felt like the battery developes memory and needed to be fully discarded to combat that occurring. I can not find any technical document that supports this idea. There are not NiCad batteries.
Anyway if I send my tablet in I will end up with 1.4.3 instead of 1.4.0.
When you get your replacement
Once you get your replacement, it's a good idea not to charge it until it show very low percentage on any nicad rechargeable batteries. When you charge it, don't remove it from the charger until it reaches 100%. Also don't have a habit of plugin it in when finish using it, plan ahead so that you can have a fully discharge battery before recharging. Your NT battery charge will hold a lot longer threw time if you do it this way. You also can try this app to see if it works.
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Came off the island today and went to the big green city. Stopped at BN and did some talking with them and also to the service center at the same time. The service center said they would send me a refurb. My 3-4hour of run time is way under the 11.5 hours you should get for the e-reader mode only. That fella felt like the battery developes memory and needed to be fully discarded to combat that occurring. I can not find any technical document that supports this idea. There are not NiCad batteries.
Anyway if I send my tablet in I will end up with 1.4.3 instead of 1.4.0.
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Good advise, thanks,
I put in some effort to side load the battery stats reset software and found a application call: Battery HD. I loaded this app instead. It provides a graph of the charge and discharge rate. From the graph I can see that my battery is OK. I became aware of some funnies going on when I woke up at 3 am and saw the display on. With the discharge rate as specified I now believe I have some application causing me trouble. I don't have much on the table, Titanium, MX video, Amazon apps.
I shut the unit off last night and it came back right to the same charge. Tonight I will leave it on and check the graph to see if there was an load and when. The application has a gross report on the power used separated by function instead of application. It also has a calibration test that tests the three main functions and reports the discharge rate.
Anyway, I will post what the nightly current hog is if I can find it.
Steve
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Good advise, thanks,
I put in some effort to side load the battery stats reset software and found a application call: Battery HD. I loaded this app instead. It provides a graph of the charge and discharge rate. From the graph I can see that my battery is OK. I became aware of some funnies going on when I woke up at 3 am and saw the display on. With the discharge rate as specified I now believe I have some application causing me trouble. I don't have much on the table, Titanium, MX video, Amazon apps.
I shut the unit off last night and it came back right to the same charge. Tonight I will leave it on and check the graph to see if there was an load and when. The application has a gross report on the power used separated by function instead of application. It also has a calibration test that tests the three main functions and reports the discharge rate.
Anyway, I will post what the nightly current hog is if I can find it.
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My friends NT has been having issue with screen turning on by itself. Seemed to narrow it down to aldiko app. Not sure why it's happening. Performed a clean install of CM7 and issue came back. I keep thinking it's hardware related, trying to convince him to try a different ROM, but he's stuck on using CM7. If you find a reason for your tablet screen turning on let us know so maybe I can help him get his issue resolved. Thanks...
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Once you get your replacement, it's a good idea not to charge it until it show very low percentage on any nicad rechargeable batteries. When you charge it, don't remove it from the charger until it reaches 100%. Also don't have a habit of plugin it in when finish using it, plan ahead so that you can have a fully discharge battery before recharging. Your NT battery charge will hold a lot longer threw time if you do it this way. You also can try this app to see if it works.
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That's actually bad advice for any lithium based battery - like the NT's lithium ion battery. LiON batteries don't like to be fully discharged and they don't like heat, especially heat when they are fully charged. That means avoid full discharges and avoid charging it to full every time, and do charge the battery more frequently (keeping the charge level between 20% and 80% for example). Partial discharge on LiON is just fine; they don't suffer memory effect.
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That's actually bad advice for any lithium based battery - like the NT's lithium ion battery. LiON batteries don't like to be fully discharged and they don't like heat, especially heat when they are fully charged. That means avoid full discharges and avoid charging it to full every time, and do charge the battery more frequently (keeping the charge level between 20% and 80% for example). Partial discharge on LiON is just fine; they don't suffer memory effect.
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I have said it in past post, I need glasses. I totally missed this part while reading "There are not NiCad batteries" the word not always gets me.Sorry about that sgschwend. I did not even know, thanks for the info update.
Well, I always appreciate advice, my view is that it becomes a starting point and it is up to the reader to combine it with a working course of action.
As to phantom startup/turnons I checked last night and there wasn't one. I will continue till I find it. The summary screen does say what type of application is turning on so that should help. The only gotcha will be if the battery application changes how the tablet works to the point that the issue will not occur. I don't think this is very likely.
The battery application (battery HD) makes a nice graph so you can look at the slope and see what is going on, it also lists the run time for various activities based on the current battery charge. Interesting to note the Nook charger overcharges a bit and the battery does warm up some. When it cools down the charge is just under 100%. This is not an ideal situation, it would be better for the charger to slow to a point that the battery temperature is not elevated near the end of its cycle. Splitting hairs perhaps. My discharge rate matches the tablets specs even with the battery application running.
Second day of monitoring the device operated correctly. I did check and found that I have a Titanium backup batch job setup to run every day a 3 am. Which coincides with time I observed the device display turning on. I will move the time and see if the issue moves too.
Steve
Also turn off push notifications that certain apps have. They suck up a lot of battery. Install the Better Battery Stats app (search xda for it). Won't have to pay unless you want to. Monitor the partial wake locks to determine what apps are using battery during sleep.
I have a similar problem, i got a nook with cm7 and the battery doesn't last at all, i charged it yesterday and let it all night without touching it to see how long would it last and after 12 hours i got 30% and it says 70% of the battery was drained by the andoid os, it says that the processor was working for 2hrs!
i got it and stared looking for an answer to this problem and in less than 10 min it has drained 4% of the total charge, this didn't happened with the stock firmware so I'm thinking about trying jelly bean and if it doesn't get better i will have to go back to the stock firmware
Hwong, I think you hit it on the head. Last evening my NookT had a much higher current draw, loosing 20% in 12 hours. I saw this when I checked it a midnight. I had left the Nook with the battery monitor application in the graph mode, likely running as an active application instead of a "monitor" mode. Titanium Backup did run last night but it runs for such a short period it did not even show up on the graph.
So I really don't know which application or notification is causing me a problem but the issue I have had is like loosing 20% of my battery in a 6-8 hour period. Which to me looks like an application is running that shouldn't and the time I observed the screen on would do it too. As I started this post I am still on 1.4.0, rooted, OTA blocked with hidden commands.
I did a hard factory reset and wipped the caché, now my nook has been charged for 2 days on sleep mode with the wifi on.
I believe the problem was caused by an application, i believe it was the launcher and theme i was used, i re-installed it yesterday and the tablet started to drain battery quickly again so i cleaned the data used by them and uninstalled them.
The battery monitor widget use to say my battery would last 2 hrs of video playing, now it says it should last 8:30, closer to the 9hrs promissed by B&N.
It all about old sins. I found that I was jumping around in the normal Nook UI and not using the back button. So several things were still running in the background. Even though that little darling looks the same, that background stuff is a killer. I did a quick test with the battery monitor by leaving it in the graphic mode and sure enough the discharge rate went up 400%, just a dumb graph in the background plotting Voltage versus time. When I use the back button on the application graph, the current draws goes to near zero.
It really does a nice job of standby or sleep.
Maybe this will help.
You could use titanium backup to freeze the apps that you think could be causing more than usual battery drain and maybe narrow the issue down?:fingers-crossed:
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It all about old sins. I found that I was jumping around in the normal Nook UI and not using the back button. So several things were still running in the background. Even though that little darling looks the same, that background stuff is a killer. I did a quick test with the battery monitor by leaving it in the graphic mode and sure enough the discharge rate went up 400%, just a dumb graph in the background plotting Voltage versus time. When I use the back button on the application graph, the current draws goes to near zero.
It really does a nice job of standby or sleep.
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I have been meaning to post in here about how great my battery life has been, especially after seeing all of the threads complaining about it. I have been going home after a 9 hour day with 70-80% and even with extreme use, I have had no issues.
That being said, today my battery drained inexplicably fast for no reason. I checked my background apps and closed a few, but the battery drain persisted, so I rebooted.
Anyone else having this issue or know what causes it? This is the first incident I have had in almost a week. The last app I launched before this happened was Inrix traffic. Battery life has been beautiful, otherwise.
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the battery drain persisted, so I rebooted.
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That's the fix I use. I now call my 920's battery life non-deterministic. It's great, except when it's not. When it's not, even if it looks like it should be because nothing is running, a reboot fixes it. Until the next time.
I would be shocked if there weren't an OS update to fix whatever process is going rouge and running away with the battery. Because it's something in the OS. Or at least its something the user cannot remedy, short of taking off and nuking the site from space.
I've noticed this a lot too. I killed a whole load of background apps and the battery life got a lot better. Then it got much worse again.
I believe my main problem is that I live in a low signal area. So I drain the whole thing in about 10-11 hours, even when out working the majority of the day.
One thing I have found is that the radios in the handset are very badly shielded compared to my previous handsets. This does mean that I can hear when the phone is sending out signals/utilising the radios. It does this a lot, even when it does have signal. It must consume a massive amount of power.
I get roughly 5-6 hours or so. Charger I bought on Amazon no longer does the trick (it's one that plugs into the cigerette lighter in your car and two USB outs). I have to bring with me the power cord and an inverter to keep it charged up so it makes it through the day.
I've got NFC and Bluetooth turned off, Wi-Fi on and the phone set to 3G mode. I get pretty solid battery life out of it.
When I feel the back of the phone getting warm, I reboot and it's good for awhile. I too would be surprised if there isn't an OS update to fix this issue.
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I am heaving same issue with battery. Phone worked fine first 10 days and it started to be warm on the top back. Life of the battery can not last a day and i am a heavy user.
As somebody mentioned in comment to turn off this and that- i don't think so. I did not buy phone to keep everything off on it.
If in airplane mode. had couple pictures and few other things, this is what you get out of your battery.
mileruma said:
If in airplane mode. had couple pictures and few other things, this is what you get out of your battery.
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Excellent. I'll just keep my phone in Airplane mode all the time! What was I thinking, leaving the cell radio on?
I've just had 2 great days life out of mine. Off charge at 6am and currently sat at 58% at 4pm. I've been streaming a podcast from the internet via bluetooth for 90 minutes and I've been tethering too, as well as all the usual stuff, so it's not like it's been sat idle all day. I've even been using Nokia Drive to get to work this morning (I teach at many different schools) whilst streaming media off the web and bluetoothing it to the stereo and it's not hit it bad. Seems very power conservative where internet streaming and GPS is concerned.
I have battery level for WP8 installed and it has a graph so you can see when the battery level is dropping off. I've noticed solid battery drain from running the Audible app which continues after the app is closed. Rebooting solves this. I have been working in an area with excellent signal recently though, that may have made a big difference. I get 9-10mbps on HSPA at the moment. I do, of course, have NFC turned off.
Hopefully Portico will be here soon and solve some of these power problems.
My wife and I both have the Galaxy S4, verizon flavor.
My phone's battery usage is very nice. Most of the time I go to bed with 30-70% left on the battery. Hers does the same. The only difference is I use my phone a lot and she barely uses it during the day. A couple of texts, maybe a phone call and on occasion an internet search. Before this happened, and I don't know what was the tipping point, she use to charge her phone every third day, now she charges it every night.
Her phone is also 6 months newer than mine. Both are running stock, both are Android 4.3. I have both phones setup as close as possible so I can make comparisons between the two. Obviously she has different needs and will have different apps running/installed.
I have taken all of her apps off the phone and it hasn't changed the battery problem. I have reset the phone and still the battery drain persists.
I have put Battery Monitor Widget and GSam on her phone and I really haven't been able to locate the offending app/program/function. The only possibility is the 1013 system and "AudioOut_2". But that seems unlikely as this drain is about every 20 minutes and goes on all day.
Usually she runs with her phone in minimal activity. Data off, Sync off, GPS off, Power Saving on.
Here is a chart from a while back, everyday looks similar with the drains. My phone has long periods of straight white lines when inactive, hers just keep going down.
can't post the image of the battery chart. Gonna make it more difficult to solve.
Just wondering where to look and if this is something that can be solved or is possibly a phone problem/defect. As I mentioned, mine works nice and I have it setup as close to my phone as possible to get results that can be compared.
first of all im no expert, but i think it could go either way. before assuming its hardware it wouldnt hurt to back everything up, try a factory reset and a wipe mk2 odin flash. then seeing if the issue persists. just throwing my thoughts out there. hope it gets resolved regardless. :good:
Leo G said:
My wife and I both have the Galaxy S4, verizon flavor.
My phone's battery usage is very nice. Most of the time I go to bed with 30-70% left on the battery. Hers does the same. The only difference is I use my phone a lot and she barely uses it during the day. A couple of texts, maybe a phone call and on occasion an internet search. Before this happened, and I don't know what was the tipping point, she use to charge her phone every third day, now she charges it every night.
Her phone is also 6 months newer than mine. Both are running stock, both are Android 4.3. I have both phones setup as close as possible so I can make comparisons between the two. Obviously she has different needs and will have different apps running/installed.
I have taken all of her apps off the phone and it hasn't changed the battery problem. I have reset the phone and still the battery drain persists.
I have put Battery Monitor Widget and GSam on her phone and I really haven't been able to locate the offending app/program/function. The only possibility is the 1013 system and "AudioOut_2". But that seems unlikely as this drain is about every 20 minutes and goes on all day.
Usually she runs with her phone in minimal activity. Data off, Sync off, GPS off, Power Saving on.
Here is a chart from a while back, everyday looks similar with the drains. My phone has long periods of straight white lines when inactive, hers just keep going down.
can't post the image of the battery chart. Gonna make it more difficult to solve.
Just wondering where to look and if this is something that can be solved or is possibly a phone problem/defect. As I mentioned, mine works nice and I have it setup as close to my phone as possible to get results that can be compared.
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Have you tried Better Battery Stats + a Wakelock Detector? Between those two it should be really easy to see if this is a software problem or perhaps a bad battery.
I'll link you to the wakelock detector I use. In my opinion it's the easiest to use.
Here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector
You can see wakelocks in BBS as well.... But I just like the options this one gives
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I haven't tried BBS+, but Wakelock Detector has been running since the problem was detected. That is how I found the 1013 and Audio2_Out running. At the beginning it seemed to correlate with the problem but as time moved on it seemed less and less the culprit.
I haven't really found anything using wakelock detector. I could give you some stats off of it tonight when I have access to my wife's phone again.
Any stats that you'd like me to post I can do that. Eventually I'll be able to post that Battery Monitor Widget graph so you can see what is happening.
Pretty sure we can rule out a bad battery. About 99.9% sure.
First things first I would swap batteries between the two phones. Lets rule out a faulty battery first, because trying to figure out battery drain with a faulty battery can be maddening!
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First things first I would swap batteries between the two phones. Lets rule out a faulty battery first, because trying to figure out battery drain with a faulty battery can be maddening!
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OK, all day with swapped batteries. Same thing. My phone is fine, her's is still doing the same stair step battery drain.