Even after reading this forum all nite, I am still soooo confused, maybe too much new info in m'head. At any rate, I am trying to UG from WM5 to WM6 and am having a heck of a rough time. Everything goes good until it actually starts the process, at which time I get the 260 Connection Error. After plenty of research on here, I decided to try to "flash" the ROM, to no avail, for nothing happened. I can get into bootloader mode but then nothing else happens (perhaps I'm not waiting long enough? How long should I wait?) and I never see the screen pictured here - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing - so I just give up and reset. I am currently downloading the HardSPL utility so I can try flashing after the IPL and SPL ugrades. But I do have some questions still --
(1) Does my phone need to be "unlocked" to do this and how can I tell if it is or isn't?
(2) Can I just use the ROM that I downloaded from the HTC site or must I use one found somewhere on this forum?
Any other advice? All will be appreciated. Thanx.
Oh, yeah -- I'm working with a Cingular 8525 Hermes [HERM100 model number] Pocket PC. It's specs are:
ROM version 2.15.502.3
ROM date 04/09/07
Radio version 1.40.30.00
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.11
Have you read this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeForBeginners ?
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Yes, I have, plus all the links branched from there. After about 3 hours of reading, I felt ready to try flashing, but it didn't work. The HardSPL utility is done downloading, so when I get home I'll try that and hope I finally get a successful upgrade. If not, I'll be back to the forums. Thanx!
What ROM are you upgrading to? The official AT&T ROM? I'd try that first if you're not already.
BDsBabyGirl said:
Even after reading this forum all nite, I am still soooo confused, maybe too much new info in m'head. At any rate, I am trying to UG from WM5 to WM6 and am having a heck of a rough time. Everything goes good until it actually starts the process, at which time I get the 260 Connection Error. After plenty of research on here, I decided to try to "flash" the ROM, to no avail, for nothing happened. I can get into bootloader mode but then nothing else happens (perhaps I'm not waiting long enough? How long should I wait?) and I never see the screen pictured here - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing - so I just give up and reset. I am currently downloading the HardSPL utility so I can try flashing after the IPL and SPL ugrades. But I do have some questions still --
(1) Does my phone need to be "unlocked" to do this and how can I tell if it is or isn't?
(2) Can I just use the ROM that I downloaded from the HTC site or must I use one found somewhere on this forum?
Any other advice? All will be appreciated. Thanx.
Oh, yeah -- I'm working with a Cingular 8525 Hermes [HERM100 model number] Pocket PC. It's specs are:
ROM version 2.15.502.3
ROM date 04/09/07
Radio version 1.40.30.00
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.11
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What operating system are you using? If its Vista you MUST use Mr. Vanx's guide to get past the connection problem. The standard Vista HTC driver is wrong when we want to flash rom's in bootloader mode and vista WMDC. Get it here:
MR VANX's VISTA GUIDE
Hard SPL is great after that. Just remember you warranty may be void if you have to go to AT&T for repairs and the see that bootloader. You shouldn't need Hard SPL to flash the standard AT&T rom or VP3G's or other AT&T based ROM's, but better safe than sorry.
Be sure to close EVERYTHING in the taskbar! Don't start any programs, allow any updates to mess around with the computer while its flashing..In fact, I disable my AV program and internet connection totally when I flash ROMS. (My Kaspersky started updating and virus scanning during my 1st flash..sucker froze and freaked me out!)
Once I dealt with unlocking and connection issues, I flashed the standard AT&T ROM, performed a hard reset immediately and then connected via WMDC and synced everything. I tested it for a few hours then decided to flash VP3G's excellent AT&T based ROM v3.62.3..I like to do a hard reset immediately after flashing to burn everything in...I've seen others in this forum do the same.
Another ROM I've found fun is S64's(Starbase64) 3.62 WWE v9 - It's not AT&T based but you can get WPBEAR's Config files to set your Medianet and proxy. There are other At&T settings CABs out there like Dr. Puttinghams. S64 ROM also includes Advanced Config 1.1 to set your keyboard to Cingular mapping.
Good Luck!
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My desktop PC is running Windows XP...
After trying the HardSPL method - which upgraded perfectly - I continue to have the above-mentioned problems; 260 Connection Error and inability to move beyond the tri-color screen to the one pictured on the page which instructs how to flash via SD card.
Thanx for the list of ROMs I can try. For the record, I have been using the "official" one I downloaded from the HTC website. *sigh* I guess I'll next look for the tutorial I saw somewhere around here on how to upgrade from the tricolor screen [or something like that, I think it was], as well as your advice.
But I do have another question -- how do I format the SD card? The tutorial I used on flashing with it mentioned formatting so I'll retry it with the card newly formatted (I didn't because it said I could just delete everything off the card OR format it).
I'll let you know how it goes...
Ahhh...Sorry for your troubles...I didn't have luck catching an upgrade from the SD Card method on my 8525 either.
I know it seems a bit much but, is your active sync working correctly? Upgraded to 4.5 and all that? Can you sync and Backup all your data then try uninstal, reboot, re-installing AS?
I wonder what would happen if one tried Mr Vanx's instructions on a Win XP box?
I also had heard somewhere about messing around with when Active sync is started. Also as a last ditch, maybe try this from the HTC Wiki:
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/667087/ActiveSync+and+Rom+8525?t=anon
Good luck
BDsBabyGirl said:
My desktop PC is running Windows XP...
After trying the HardSPL method - which upgraded perfectly - I continue to have the above-mentioned problems; 260 Connection Error and inability to move beyond the tri-color screen to the one pictured on the page which instructs how to flash via SD card.
Thanx for the list of ROMs I can try. For the record, I have been using the "official" one I downloaded from the HTC website. *sigh* I guess I'll next look for the tutorial I saw somewhere around here on how to upgrade from the tricolor screen [or something like that, I think it was], as well as your advice.
But I do have another question -- how do I format the SD card? The tutorial I used on flashing with it mentioned formatting so I'll retry it with the card newly formatted (I didn't because it said I could just delete everything off the card OR format it).
I'll let you know how it goes...
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Just another tip... Try a different usb port. I've found that sometimes certain usb ports behave differently during the upgrade procedures. So, far I've upgraded three 8525's on Win XP and only one gave me the problem you've described and connecting the sync cable in another port corrected the problem.
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shihayadreamer said:
...I also had heard somewhere about messing around with when Active sync is started. Also as a last ditch, maybe try this from the HTC Wiki:
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/667087/ActiveSync+and+Rom+8525?t=anon
Good luck
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OMG! SHIHAYADREAMER! That was JUST the TICKET! I read it and realized that I'd been doing it right all along, I just didn't realize I was! THIS time, I hooked up my cable at the very beginning and let it go. Before, I'd started waiting to hook it up until the instructions asked if I had because I'd gotten to the tricolored screen (the bootloader?) the 1st time and figured I did something wrong. Thanx to that forum, I returned to what I did the very first time and got victory! *falls down sobbing and weeping with joy* I wasted 25 hours because of fear! OMG! *dances around, singing* I've got WM6! I've got WM6!
I know that being reminded to turn off my firewall and stop all the programs in the taskbar played a big role, as well. But I just give a big "Thanx" (on Thanksgiving! *LOL*) to everyone who answered this board because you all helped me so very very much.
HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda(Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Alex- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex!))
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
Attached Images
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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HTC ADVANTAGE X7501 AT&T TILT 8925 VERIZON XV6700
THEQUARTZGUY said:
HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
SORRY FOR LONG POST, JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE...
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Hi
You could try Hard Reset BY Volume down+Stylus reset. if it turns on and load OS then you can use the unlocker again without Sim and Memory card(but your pc must have netframe work 2.0 installed and updated). If your device failed to load OS then you have to find the original rom for your device (which you can download from this website "use the search function") then unlock your device with olipro's latest unlocker.
Good luck
I got this once when I tried to flash from the memory card.
Remove both memory and sim card and battery for 10 mins.
make sure you are disconnected from the puter.
put battery in and hold the camerabutton all the way in and press the reset pin and hopefully you will enter the bootloader proper.
Which version of olipros unlocker did you use
Try to use the last version as it is less prone to trouble and works better on x7501
see this post as well(though not exactly your problem)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374734
I would also recommend flashing from an xppro machine with the latest activesync
just reinforcing above post as well
I had a similar problem which I outlined here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368312
Notice the screenshots about a third of the way down.
Does your Advantage bootscreen look like this?
-Alex-
try inserting an SD card and boot to this strange bootloader screen
does it say Loading (then No image found)?
also, i assume you mean the PC does not see the device either?
what athena version have you all got? x7501? brand new? maybe HTC changed something about them...
Still No Luck!!! Any More Advice? It Would Be Appreciated...
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
if it can't load an image from SD and PC (with XP) can't see the device, then it needs to be sent back, if possible under warranty
bad choice
hay there first time some thing like that happen to me i was stuck for hours but then i got into boot loader in flashed the pk 3.0 and it worked so if u can see the olipro 1.20 thing then its all good and if u cant then mabee ur f***d that type of error u got its supose to cum near the end
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM ME OR EMAIL ME AT [email protected] IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
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Sorry that you are having the same problems that I did. Unfortunately, I can't bring you much comfort as I tried everything that I could find or was suggested. I searched every post and put out multiple cross-postings (that is a real sign of desperation for me!). Ultimately I had to get a new unit from Amazon as I could NOT get it back from the land of rainbow death that you see in the pics. I am no expert with the Athena/Advantage but I am also pretty experienced with computers and rarely ever get myself into a no-win like this. It takes alot for me to give up and declare a piece of equipment beyond my ability to fix, but this was one of those times.
I think that I traced the eventual cause to one (or a combination) of the following:
- Leaving the SIM and the Mini SD in the unit during the flash process
- Some glitch when using vista with the bootloader
- Using an older version of the OliPro unlocker (very likely the cause)
- Somehow panicing during the unlock and interupting the upgrade. You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
I repeated the unlock with replacement unit being careful to use the latest bulletproof unlock and had no problems. But the original unit did have to go back.
I sincerely hope that you have better luck! Tell me how it turns out! If there is any other info you think you might be able to use from my experience, please ask away!
-Alex-
bairda said:
You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
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nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
cmonex said:
nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
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I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
marthynovak said:
But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
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nope, it's got nothing to do with the radio version
it's another area where simunlock info is stored
bairda said:
I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
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well it can't do much harm, of course less flashing means less risk, and step 2 and step 3 both flash a radio.
as a newbie i'd imagine it's easier to just do step 1 because step 2 can cause corruption to the OS so it needs to be reflashed and the black screen scares the newbies etc.
What I have noticed reading this board too is that sometimes the type of USB cables used matters. I do not know why, but this happened to me too. I failed at step #2 and couldn't figure it our why. To resolve this I changed everything. From computer to usb cables to fresh files, to restore old image and re-tried the process and it worked.
Also one thing I noticed is that the old unlocked is linked allot instead of the new unlocker which is almost bullet proof. Some folks did download the old unlocker and tried it on their x7501 and bricked their device....
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Problem Resolved!!! Please Read, Very Important Information!!!
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
THEQUARTZGUY said:
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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Hi there,
Thanks indeed for the important info. I haven't yet tried the unlocker. But to my understanding the link " -BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831"
points to the latest version of the unlocker. The file I have downloaded is dated in November 2007. This is not correct? And what does the wrapper mean?
Could you please explain? I bought my X7501 in the US, but live in Europe and such a mistake could be totally fatal!
Thanks for your feedback.
Regarding The "bad" Unlocker....
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
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Thanks Ryan!
I see. I know that the X7501 is sold unlocked in the US and therefore only the 1st step of flashing the SPL would make sense. That means that if run the athena wrapper, all will be OK for flashing radio, ROM etc. I that correct?
Two more questions, if you don't mind.
1.Did you need to install .NET to run the Athena wrapper?, or is it kind of pre-installed mostly?
2.What is your experience with the cooked ROMs? Running stable? Can you flash back the original ROM if required?
Thanks
Dod.
I ran the 'wrapper' this week, step 1 only, so I could upgrade the radio driver. I first ran the bad unlocker and got the 'black screen of death', but after reflashing a good ROM, then the good 'wraapper', then the latest radio all is well.
Hi guys,
Mods - first time post and im not a regular user so if im breaking the rules i apologise. I have spent hours already trawling the forums, but i am now admitting defeat and I need your help!
My Problem:
I have an x7501 SPL 1.06 0000, WM 5.0, GERMAN OS
I want to upgrade this to WM6.1 ENGLISH
I dont care what the SPL is, as long as it works, is reliable, and wont disable any standard WM functionality
I am not interested in tweaks, hulks, or other (non standard) tricks, i just want to get the device running a stock WM 6.1 rom
That said - if you guys think that going to 6.5 is the best (non beta, no risk) option, then im quite happy to go that route.
$50 reward to the first person who provides the following info IN A FORMAT THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND. im good with computers for a non pro (and can follow instructions , but this is just over my head!
I Need:
1) Link to an unlocker and instructions how to use, that will give me the required SPL (note my SPL is 1.06 - will this require two SPL flash steps??)
2) Link to a stable ROM that retains all windows functionality, and instructions how to use it.
If i find that i used two or more peoples help i will split the reward accordingly!
thanks in advance and keep up the good work!
Alan K
First you need to download the unlocker from this thread and follow instructions... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
This will give you SPL 1.2
Here is a handy thread with step by step instructions on upgrading your roms you should read through before beginning to flash...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
Unfortunately, the stock-like wm6.5 roms made by michy-prima that ran on spl1.2 are no longer hosted on any sites anymore. I can try to contact him for you and see if I can get a copy directly from him. I will see if I can do that.
Otherwise, you can change your spl to 3.5, which you might as well do anyways, as there are more roms for that spl and even the stock-like michy-prima roms were made in spl3.5 also, so if I can get those, I will get the spl 3.5 versions.
So to then change your spl to 3.5, you must have first used unlocker to make spl 1.2, then the only way that was made to change spl to 3.5 was to flash the Athena Project 4 rom, so go to this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387409 and download the AP ROM V.4, unzip it, and run the flasher while your phone is connected with active-sync to your computer. This will install the spl3.5 and the AP4 Rom.
Now that that is done, you can choose any SPL3.5 ROM to flash... (make sure to only flash SPL3.5 Roms now... if need be, there is a way to go back to SPL1.2 if you need to, but there really is no reason you would need to.)
Probably the most modern rom with the most features would be the AGB Version 3.00 ROM, The Hulk one (I know you said you didn't want that, but it is the most current rom, and you can easily change the theme and wallpaper on it. This is the ROM I have on my Athena... its a nice ROM.) Here is the thread for that ROM... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614158
Just unzip the rom after you download it, and like before, hook phone up to computer and let it sync, then run the installer. You can also use the ealier AGB roms, too, if they look better to you, or any rom you come across as long as it is a spl3.5 rom.
And I will try to contact michy-prima to see if I can get one of his old clean wm6.5 roms or his stock wm6.1 roms, but I wouldn't count on me being able to get one from him. Personally I think the newer AGB ROMs are alot better and more recent and updated and would recommend using them.
Also, here is a convenient thread I just found that has links to many different builds and useful tools and guides... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518 ... so if you want to try out a couple wm6.1 while you have spl1.2 or even after flashing spl3.5, as a lot of roms are made for both spls. Just make sure you only flash roms made for the spl that you have on your phone.
I hope this helps... if you have any more questions, feel free to pm me and I'll be glad to help. Happy flashing!
Hi Zarathustrax,
Thanks for the extensive instructions. I will be checking it this week so hopefully ill be sending you some greenbacks by Friday!
Thanks again!
Al
bigalk said:
Hi Zarathustrax,
Thanks for the extensive instructions. I will be checking it this week so hopefully ill be sending you some greenbacks by Friday!
Thanks again!
Al
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Like I said, if you have any more questions or problems, feel free to ask here or pm me.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Also, if you prefer to have a winmo 6.1 ROM over the 6.5 ROM I suggested, there are links to many 6.1 ROMs in that last thread I linked. Here's the link again... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518
MichyPrima's roms are no longer hosted, but I have heard good things about Taxists and Sogarths ROMs. You can easily try a rom and then flash another if you don't like it. Just remember, make sure to flash roms for the spl that you have. If you have SPL3.5 and want a spl1.2 rom, there are links to the tool to change back to spl1.2. The only way to go from spl 1.2 to spl 3.5 is to flash the Athena Project 4 ROM, then after that you can flash any spl3.5 you want. Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
Hi Zarathustrax,
just to let you know - i still havent managed to allocate time to this yet.
I havent forgotten about you, and im not pulling a fast one!
thanks again for your time and effort!
Al
Hi Zarathustrax,
In the very first step (unlocker link) Olipro says "follow the steps...."
I cant see the steps he mentions anywhere? This is one of the reasons for my original post
any ideas?
Al
Forget my last question - unlocker has the steps!
Hi Zarathustrax,
tried twice and i keep getting error 202 - "check cables....... cannot connect to phone"
I have:
1) connected and synced via active sync
2) set active sync not to sync any items except for files
any ideas?
thanks
Ive tried everything i can. ALL windows updates installed (along with .net 2.0)
AV disabled
Athenaunlocker added to firewall exceptions - im on a work network so firewall is controlled through group policy - so i cant completely disable. do you think this might be the problem?
bigalk said:
Ive tried everything i can. ALL windows updates installed (along with .net 2.0)
AV disabled
Athenaunlocker added to firewall exceptions - im on a work network so firewall is controlled through group policy - so i cant completely disable. do you think this might be the problem?
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Hmmm... might be. I'll look into this and see if I can figure anything out.
Oh, by the way, sorry I missed your messages until now. I don't check these forums daily, so if you need to contact me quicker, send a private message to me.
bigalk said:
Hi Zarathustrax,
tried twice and i keep getting error 202 - "check cables....... cannot connect to phone"
I have:
1) connected and synced via active sync
2) set active sync not to sync any items except for files
any ideas?
thanks
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I've been reading through the forums trying to find an answer... at what point does it show this error? Is it right away? Does the x7501 change screen at all or do anything? I think I remember having problems like this when I unlocked it years ago... but can't remember exactly what I did. Does the x7501 go to it's tricolored bootloader screen at all? It maybe is having problems installing usb drivers while it's in bootloader mode if it changes into bootloader mode when you get that error. Let me know asap so we can get this solved. Also, have you tried using another cable at all?
Putting phone in usb Mode
Try installing Enablerapi.cab before using the olipro unlocker.
Are you still on this
When you run the unlocker there are 3 steps - these are three separate buttons that appear on the flasher each time.
Can you indicate at which step you get this error? Go to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378216
...IT IS IN GERMAN...but it gives very nice pics of the process...using google translate you can get some idea. BUT if you can indicate which step you were able to complete.....we can help better !
Also, what windows operating system?
bigalk said:
Ive tried everything i can. ALL windows updates installed (along with .net 2.0)
AV disabled
Athenaunlocker added to firewall exceptions - im on a work network so firewall is controlled through group policy - so i cant completely disable. do you think this might be the problem?
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chappatti said:
When you run the unlocker there are 3 steps - these are three separate buttons that appear on the flasher each time.
Can you indicate at which step you get this error? Go to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378216
...IT IS IN GERMAN...but it gives very nice pics of the process...using google translate you can get some idea. BUT if you can indicate which step you were able to complete.....we can help better !
Also, what windows operating system?
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I'm kinda thinking he gave up or something.... I've pm'ed him and have been trying to get more info on his problem for a couple weeks. I think he was having the problem on the first step... and the enablerapi will probably solve his problem.
But doing all this reading and trying to solve this problem has got me to pull out my old athena and start playing with it again... it's been a couple years since I've used it... I'm on the HD2 now, dualbooting WP7 and android.... but I've gotten an interest in getting my athena set-up and working again. The athena was way ahead of it's time.... if we could get devs interested in it again and get a good android build ported over, it would make an awesome tablet/phone. I think I'm gonna try to play around with getting android booting on it, but my knowledge of linux and low-level kernel work is limited to none. The best I can do is try to put together a build with what kernels/tools are already out and working on the athena, which isn't much. I think they had it booting and got touch screen working, but not much past that.
Hi zarathustrax,
no i havent given up . was checking in regularly to see if i had any response from you but never even looked at the pms. sorry.
i have a few hours to crack into this now so ive set up on a new machine (different av and firewall) and im going to have a go.
will report back - thanks for all the additional info my man!
al
ok - so i unlocked successfully but i think i may have fcked up. when i read olipros unlocker thread its says that only step 1 is necessary, ("but if you do step 2 you must also do step 3")
as i was trying to get to spl 3.5 i presumed that i didnt need to do step 2 or 3. this might have been a bad choice.
heres what happened:
ran unlocker step 1, it worked, phone rebooted. i finished there as i wasnt sure if i needed step 2 or 3
loaded bootloader screen to check spl. spl said olipro 1.2. i though cool - rebooted phone and now its a black screen. i can get into the bootloader screen whish says:
ATHE100
IPL-V1.00
ATHE100
SPL-V1.20. Olipro
have been reading up on next steps, or how to get rid of blackscreen but no conclusive answer.
its friday so im off home - battle lost but the war aint over!
Well. I'm not an expert (my Ameo was unlocked as I bought it) but if I understand, the black screen is because the ROM on your device dont match the new SPL you have. Try to flash a new ROM (SPL 1.2, right?) should help.
bigalk said:
ok - so i unlocked successfully but i think i may have fcked up. when i read olipros unlocker thread its says that only step 1 is necessary, ("but if you do step 2 you must also do step 3")
as i was trying to get to spl 3.5 i presumed that i didnt need to do step 2 or 3. this might have been a bad choice.
heres what happened:
ran unlocker step 1, it worked, phone rebooted. i finished there as i wasnt sure if i needed step 2 or 3
loaded bootloader screen to check spl. spl said olipro 1.2. i though cool - rebooted phone and now its a black screen. i can get into the bootloader screen whish says:
ATHE100
IPL-V1.00
ATHE100
SPL-V1.20. Olipro
have been reading up on next steps, or how to get rid of blackscreen but no conclusive answer.
its friday so im off home - battle lost but the war aint over!
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Just replied to your pm before checking this thread, so I see that you can still get to SPL bootloader screen. So, what you should be able to do now is get your phone to bootloader screen and hook it up to pc like that. Then let any drivers that are installing finish, and where it says "serial" at the bottom should change to "USB".
At this point, you can now run a custom rom installer and flash a new rom. Since you want to change to SPL3.5, you should install the Athena Project 4 ROM.
Or if you want to leave it at this SPL for a while and test out a couple WM6.1 ROMS that use this SPL, just flash one of these. Here's a good thread that lists almost every ROM available with links and says what SPL they're for... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518
I'll do a little more research also about the screen not coming on to make sure it's not some other problem, but it probably is just the current rom isn't compatible with the new SPL.
I'm sending this post to your pm too.
Also, make sure you have the SD card and sim card removed when doing flashing. And check what radio you have on your phone... you must have atleast radio 1.50 or higher to use Athena Project 4 or most WM6.1 or WM6.5 ROMS.