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Hey everyone, sorry if this has cropped up previously but I've searched to no avail and no one from Microsoft has an answer either.
I've got a new HTC Titan sitting here, completely unused. I won it at the Windows Phone Inner Circle event in Denver weeks before the device's US launch, but I still haven't switched over. This is because the device is a UK phone. The phone does not appear to have any US settings at all, is unlocked, and even comes with a UK plug instead of a US one. Presumably, this is because I won the device before the US version was ready for release.
The issue is that even when I switch my region settings over to "English (US)", nothing actually changes on the phone when it restarts...everything is still English (UK). For example, "synchronising", "favourites", "colour", etc. At first I thought that this wasn't a big deal, but it might be if other region settings persist. So I have three related questions that I'd love to find out:
If/when a custom bootloader is released for the Titan, can I use it to flash a US ROM to my device?
I have to switch carriers to AT&T in order to fully use the Titan (hence my hesitation), but will bringing the phone to AT&T and letting them activate it have a chance of loading US settings onto the phone? I know that will load AT&T app marketplace options, which is why I was curious.
Most importantly, even if none of this can possibly change, will I at all be restricted by UK region restrictions for Zune, Marketplace, etc.? I have a US-based Zune and WLID account, but this is my main concern because of the phone's region.
If anyone can share some insights on this, I'd really appreciate it.
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Hey everyone, sorry if this has cropped up previously but I've searched to no avail and no one from Microsoft has an answer either.
I've got a new HTC Titan sitting here, completely unused. I won it at the Windows Phone Inner Circle event in Denver weeks before the device's US launch, but I still haven't switched over. This is because the device is a UK phone. The phone does not appear to have any US settings at all, is unlocked, and even comes with a UK plug instead of a US one. Presumably, this is because I won the device before the US version was ready for release.
The issue is that even when I switch my region settings over to "English (US)", nothing actually changes on the phone when it restarts...everything is still English (UK). For example, "synchronising", "favourites", "colour", etc. At first I thought that this wasn't a big deal, but it might be if other region settings persist. So I have three related questions that I'd love to find out:
If/when a custom bootloader is released for the Titan, can I use it to flash a US ROM to my device?
I have to switch carriers to AT&T in order to fully use the Titan (hence my hesitation), but will bringing the phone to AT&T and letting them activate it have a chance of loading US settings onto the phone? I know that will load AT&T app marketplace options, which is why I was curious.
Most importantly, even if none of this can possibly change, will I at all be restricted by UK region restrictions for Zune, Marketplace, etc.? I have a US-based Zune and WLID account, but this is my main concern because of the phone's region.
If anyone can share some insights on this, I'd really appreciate it.
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1. US ROM must be considered. Because the AT&T version Does use the different Chips for different Radio version. It might get the phone bricked. The Goldcard tecnique is not available on Titan, so Official AT&T Rom to flash on the phone is nearly impossible. It need to be done by 3rd party.
2. No. Your Live ID will determine which content you can access. Don't ask why people at Asia can still submit and buys apps that are for US only.
3. The region of the phone could be changed, but not the agent inside. So, don't be surprise that you have the English voice comeout from Tellme and Turn-by-Turn navigation from Bing maps doesn't work at US. You can change, the Region Format, System Locale and Browser &Search Language to English (United States) but it can't change the fact, that this phone is built for Europe user. I will ask HTC if they can bring the custom language pack (if possible) to Windows Phone. I am still talking to HTC Tech Support about this.
I contacted HTC Support several times and they didn't give me any solution (apart from doing a deadly mistake of telling me to search the Android Market for an application :S)!!
I'm still hoping we find a different ROM to flash. Is there an Australian version maybe floating around? I'm dying to use voice navigation and Tellme (which doesn't understand anything when set to English UK).
Thanks for the replies...starting to think maybe I should just sell the thing and use the money to buy a US Titan - especially due to the points about navigation and TellMe. Of course, I'd probably want to sell it to someone in the UK so no one else has region problems. Maybe I'll start looking into that.
In the meantime, if any encouraging news pops up about this, let me know
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...starting to think maybe I should just sell the thing)
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How much do you want?
Hello everyone,
I've been an android user for a year and a half now, but after getting a grip of a WP device I am surely making the switch, and the Titan has caught my eyes from the first sight!
I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice regarding where to get the phone from and what version should I get?
I live in the Middle-East and the phone is currently unavailable here but I want to get it from the internet, there are many versions of the Titan and I am not quite sure which one should I buy!
Here are the options I got and I don't know which one I should go with:
1- The AT&T version: I've read that the AT&T version had some problems regarding voice quality but its the cheapest among them all (around 500$ and I need to unlock it of course).
2- The international version -don't know what's it called really- factory unlocked on amazon for 675$.
3- The UK version on ebay for 600$, factory unlocked.
Considering the fact that I am kinda a noob regarding these stuff, I would like to hear your suggestions, what difference is there between all these three and what should I get for someone living on the other side of the world, also would like to know what the UK version differs from the others.
and is there a chance that the phone won't work with my carrier, what info should I ask them for and check before buying the device ?
thanks a lot for your time, any help is much appreciated
ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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ROCOAFZ said:
ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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I see, so that is a disadvantage for the AT&T version.
Umm, ok what about the UK version, what's wrong with it more like what is the difference between it and the international one?
ROCOAFZ said:
ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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had an iclone user pick mine up the other day and pretend it was a riot shield. "it's just sooooo big!" wait until the iclone 5 has a bigger screen, suddenly this form factor will become "magical." &^%$ers!
The AT&T one will *never* tether on any network other than AT&T. Not sure about the UK one.
You might want to investigate whether the int'l unlocked one can.
If it were me I'd get the int'l unlocked one, *unless* I specifically needed a UMTS band that that one does not offer.
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The AT&T one will *never* tether on any network other than AT&T. Not sure about the UK one.
You might want to investigate whether the int'l unlocked one can.
If it were me I'd get the int'l unlocked one, *unless* I specifically needed a UMTS band that that one does not offer.
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UK unlocked here - tethers with everything!
drupad2drupad said:
UK unlocked here - tethers with everything!
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since you own the UK version, may I ask you what differ is there between it and the international version ? (the UK version is cheaper by 75$) but I don't know if it'll work as I live in the middle-east and I don't know what to ask my carrier for to know?
thanks
I am not entirely sure about international version. But I think it probably not much difference hardware wise for sure. Since certain features of OS are limited to certain countries ir might be the case. E.g. Bing features, tell me services etc. It might be helpful if I say that even in UK version the radio is set to International.
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drupad2drupad said:
I am not entirely sure about international version. But I think it probably not much difference hardware wise for sure. Since certain features of OS are limited to certain countries ir might be the case. E.g. Bing features, tell me services etc. It might be helpful if I say that even in UK version the radio is set to International.
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ok that's great to know, features like Tell Me and others aren't that important to me and honestly it'll help me get a British accent, hehe
but the most important thing that there isn't any big changes, stuff like the market won't work or these kind of things, right?
thanks for your help
black_falcon90 said:
ok that's great to know, features like Tell Me and others aren't that important to me and honestly it'll help me get a British accent, hehe
but the most important thing that there isn't any big changes, stuff like the market won't work or these kind of things, right?
thanks for your help
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Do a search though. In some countries Market won't have certain apps. The market ideally should work in all countries but some have lesser apps than others e.g. we don't have the Netflix app in the UK. Check out what Market looks like for your specific country. Unlikely you will have all the apps. It's more to do with MS sorting out the legalities etc for each country gradually..
iFan has their own bias, so i won't talk about it here.
AT&T Version always slow in the Update since AT&T have to test it and do whatever they want to the update before it can be published.
I have the X310e version from UK, unlocked and totally happy with it.
And with the international version, you have the "HTC" agent color, which is removed on the AT&T Titan.
Strike_Eagle said:
iFan has their own bias, so i won't talk about it here.
AT&T Version always slow in the Update since AT&T have to test it and do whatever they want to the update before it can be published.
I have the X310e version from UK, unlocked and totally happy with it.
And with the international version, you have the "HTC" agent color, which is removed on the AT&T Titan.
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HTC agent colour is also present in the UK version. So does this mean only the ATT doesn't have it? or is UK and international one the same thing?
The Apps in the market will be dependent on the Country given in your Live-Account. This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
So those things will most likely have to be sorted out firt. The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants which makes it usable on pretty much any UMTS Network worldwide with only a few exceptions. The exact supported bands can be seen on the HTC Titans product page on htc.com
The UK version as far as I know is hardwarewise exactly the same as the international one, only difference might be in what UI languages are available (all keyboard languages are present since the Mango Update anyway although Middle-Eastern-Language support is currently expected to arrive with the Tango-Update - meaning it's not available yet).
Hope this helps and provides you with a rough idea of what troubles can arise.
StevieBallz said:
The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants
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The USA version is 850/1900/2100.
The UK version is 850/900/2100. The international version is probably the same as that one, but not sure.
The OP probably only needs 2100, so any of them will probably be just fine.
Now if we could only get a variant with AWS...
drupad2drupad said:
HTC agent colour is also present in the UK version. So does this mean only the ATT doesn't have it? or is UK and international one the same thing?
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AT&T has a choice what to do with the ROM for their Phone. and they choose to remove the Agent Color HTC. I have heard it from multiple sources.
All others versions has the HTC Agent color.
StevieBallz said:
The Apps in the market will be dependent on the Country given in your Live-Account. This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
So those things will most likely have to be sorted out firt. The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants which makes it usable on pretty much any UMTS Network worldwide with only a few exceptions. The exact supported bands can be seen on the HTC Titans product page on htc.com
The UK version as far as I know is hardwarewise exactly the same as the international one, only difference might be in what UI languages are available (all keyboard languages are present since the Mango Update anyway although Middle-Eastern-Language support is currently expected to arrive with the Tango-Update - meaning it's not available yet).
Hope this helps and provides you with a rough idea of what troubles can arise.
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okay , let's say I get the UK unlocked version and use it in my country "Jordan" , I don't know where I read it , but as it seems every phone is region locked , and if I get a UK phone for instance I won't be able to get an update to my language for example (which is Arabic) .. is that correct ?
I don't know, its safer to get the international version even tho it's a 100 bucks more expensive , but I thought about asking you guys cause I don't know a lot about these stuff.
Thanks
StevieBallz said:
This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
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I changed the country my live account was associated with. It's a bit hard but you can do it. There is a how-to online if you search for it.
I'll keep this really short
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_7_8GB?id=nexus_7_8gb&hl=en
Im from India and clicking on the above link gives the error
"Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet.
We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible.
Please check back again soon."
As expected since im from India
The Nexus 4 has launched and will bew going on sale for $350 for the Unlocked 16GB version of the phone
What i intend on doing is order the phone off the Play Store for my Dad who is based in US so that he can then ship it to India
He is always busy at work so is there any work around on how i can make that link useable in India to the order it
Proxy maybe ?
Oh and payment for Device can be done without a Paypal ? As my dad should have a Credit card
Thanks for the help
Qwerty123 \m/ said:
I'll keep this really short
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_7_8GB?id=nexus_7_8gb&hl=en
Im from India and clicking on the above link gives the error
"Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet.
We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible.
Please check back again soon."
As expected since im from India
The Nexus 4 has launched and will bew going on sale for $350 for the Unlocked 16GB version of the phone
What i intend on doing is order the phone off the Play Store for my Dad who is based in US so that he can then ship it to India
He is always busy at work so is there any work around on how i can make that link useable in India to the order it
Proxy maybe ?
Oh and payment for Device can be done without a Paypal ? As my dad should have a Credit card
Thanks for the help
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I don't think you could purchase it from India, maybe I'm wrong too. Same like even if you use Market Unlocker for getting access to Music, Movies, Magazines etc. its still unusable if you are outside US. About using proxy, I'm not sure, maybe have to use IP changer too.
I just need some way to order the device from India
Any User from the US can tell me about the payment steps ?Just requires me to have a credit card and then input and address for it to be shipped right ?
No confirmation of residency and stuff ?
Mee 2 got the same ****ing error....
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Hi,
I frequently visit the UK and would very much like to get my hands on a Nexus 10. Unfortunately, since i don't have a UK credit card i don't seem to be able to order from play.google.com ( i get some bogus error, but my guess is that the problem is the credit card ). I have considered getting some of my UK colleagues to order it for me, but i am thinking that will be a hassle if there are problems with it.
Therefore i was wondering if anyone know of any other UK physical or online stores that sell the Nexus 10?
PS: I realize there is another thread on availability, but it covers the whole world and mostly talks about getting it from the Google store.
Nope, only the Google Play Store currently sells it here in the UK.
I'd like to get rid of the Huawei UI and get something clean like AOSP or CM.
Do we have any roms yet?
None so far. It seems Huawei hasn't released any sources yet.
As a workaround, just install any 3rd party launcher. Nova works fine.
Nova would probably be the first thing I put on there, I hear this phone doesn't come with the Google play store though?
What about root? Has that been done yet? Gotta uninstall all the junk
joytest said:
None so far. It seems Huawei hasn't released any sources yet.
As a workaround, just install any 3rd party launcher. Nova works fine.
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There is not even any custom recovery yet !! So flashing any zip roms not possible even if available..
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Do we have a way to root yet?
Rooting just use n google for program root genius. It works fine n very fast to get phone rooted
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omniphil said:
Nova would probably be the first thing I put on there, I hear this phone doesn't come with the Google play store though?
What about root? Has that been done yet? Gotta uninstall all the junk
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There isn't much junk on this phone, quite a clean ROM. The International models come with Play store. The China models have an installable Play store from the Huawei app store, so there is no problem.
To root, you need to first install HiSuite, then enable USB debugging, then run Root Genius.
I'm not sure which version I ordered. I got the FDD Dual LTE one from here..
http://www.huaweimobileshop.com/
Does HiSuite come with the phone or do I have to download it somewhere?
joytest said:
There isn't much junk on this phone, quite a clean ROM. The International models come with Play store. The China models have an installable Play store from the Huawei app store, so there is no problem.
To root, you need to first install HiSuite, then enable USB debugging, then run Root Genius.
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omniphil said:
I'm not sure which version I ordered. I got the FDD Dual LTE one from here..
http://www.huaweimobileshop.com/
Does HiSuite come with the phone or do I have to download it somewhere?
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Here
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/downloads/detail/index.htm?id=16205
or here which is the main site
http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/HiSuite_en/index.html
Excellent! Thank you!
I guess the first thing to do once I get the phone is to update it to the latest firmware via HiSuite and then root it.
I wonder if I need to unlock the phone as well? I will be putting in a sim card from the US, but I suspect phones outside the US aren't carrier locked.
joytest said:
There isn't much junk on this phone, quite a clean ROM. The International models come with Play store. The China models have an installable Play store from the Huawei app store, so there is no problem.
To root, you need to first install HiSuite, then enable USB debugging, then run Root Genius.
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joytest said:
Here
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/downloads/detail/index.htm?id=16205
or here which is the main site
http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/HiSuite_en/index.html
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omniphil said:
I'm not sure which version I ordered. I got the FDD Dual LTE one from here..
http://www.huaweimobileshop.com/
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Which country do you live in and how long did it take to arrive?
DrHRH said:
Which country do you live in and how long did it take to arrive?
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United States, took 3 days to arrive.
omniphil said:
United States, took 3 days to arrive.
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OK, thanks. Any import tax on charged on it?
I'm in the UK and a bit concerned that I'm going to get hit with another £30 or £40 in import duty, as it'll be coming from the Far East. It might not be the same in the US though I suppose.
Does anyone know how it works regarding import tax/duty to the UK?
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OK, thanks. Any import tax on charged on it?
I'm in the UK and a bit concerned that I'm going to get hit with another £30 or £40 in import duty, as it'll be coming from the Far East. It might not be the same in the US though I suppose.
Does anyone know how it works regarding import tax/duty to the UK?
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USA doesn't charge tax/customs for these devices. Some China based vendors will offer to ship the item without the original retail packaging to avoid additional taxes for certain destinations.
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USA doesn't charge tax/customs for these devices. Some China based vendors will offer to ship the item without the original retail packaging to avoid additional taxes for certain destinations.
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Yup, no taxes for me. It was either $13 for regular shipping and $19 for expedited shipping, Expedited took 3 days, pretty nice...
That's all I paid over the cost of the phone.
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OK, thanks. Any import tax on charged on it?
I'm in the UK and a bit concerned that I'm going to get hit with another £30 or £40 in import duty, as it'll be coming from the Far East. It might not be the same in the US though I suppose.
Does anyone know how it works regarding import tax/duty to the UK?
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One of my first replies here on XDA, even tho I visit these forums every day.
About customs taxes: I live in The Netherlands, rougly 10% of all incoming parcels gets manually checked and opened by the dutch customs. I always let the seller mark the customs value as 17$ OR BELOW IT. The rule in The Netherlands is that all parcels, coming from outside EU, gets a 21% TAX and €17,50 standard import/clearance costs. Writing now with my X1, imported without any additional costs. Try to let the seller mark 15$ on your parcel and I think you can import it without having to pay taxes. Also this works perfect for me with DHL and small airmail parcels, big parcels (i.e. 20pcs Beats by Dre Studio) shipped with Airmail or HK Speedpost always gets picked out, never with DHL.
Wish you good luck, and let me knpw if you order it and how it's done after importing regardings taxes.
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One of my first replies here on XDA, even tho I visit these forums every day.
About customs taxes: I live in The Netherlands, rougly 10% of all incoming parcels gets manually checked and opened by the dutch customs. I always let the seller mark the customs value as 17$ OR BELOW IT. The rule in The Netherlands is that all parcels, coming from outside EU, gets a 21% TAX and €17,50 standard import/clearance costs. Writing now with my X1, imported without any additional costs. Try to let the seller mark 15$ on your parcel and I think you can import it without having to pay taxes. Also this works perfect for me with DHL and small airmail parcels, big parcels (i.e. 20pcs Beats by Dre Studio) shipped with Airmail or HK Speedpost always gets picked out, never with DHL.
Wish you good luck, and let me knpw if you order it and how it's done after importing regardings taxes.
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Thanks for the post. I'm hoping a friend of mine can get one from Malaysia and bring it back to the UK for me.
I suppose the important question is actually this:
Is the phone actually worth it - is it any good?
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Thanks for the post. I'm hoping a friend of mine can get one from Malaysia and bring it back to the UK for me.
I suppose the important question is actually this:
Is the phone actually worth it - is it any good?
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Great.
Phone is actually pretty good. Annoys me that the AOSP Android Development isn't going fast. Chinese forums already have CWM in Chinese language, but still nothing different than MIUI. I've installed the 4.4 Google Now launcher and removed the borders around the icons which MIUI implements by default. Really strange thing is that my Android is way faster now than it was when I got it in the beginning, didn't change anything.
Keyboard typing needs some practice at this big screen, using AOSP keyboard right now but I always type the letter 'M' instead of 'N' and the letter 'P' instead of 'o' lol. Trying to get used to it now for a couple of weeks, but still need to practice more haha.
Hopefully this phone gets dev's attention, so we can get a AOSP rom, but I think we'll need to wait on Huawei for releasing the kernel sources...