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This is not intended to be mean to the ap team but i am posting this because i feel they should of been honest to us from the beginning and just said we can't release yet. My reasons for feeling this way are listed below
1. About 1 month after pk3 dual was released, pawel and the rest of the team changed their signature to rom: top secret and it had been like that even after hdubli posted a ported copy of wm6.1.... why did'nt pawel post a wm6.1 rom when he changed rom to top secret?
2. the team keeps saying stuff like we have a BT bug or screen problems and i realize that there are some updates on the ati driver and stuff but the BT stack that is on the wm6.1 that hdubli released works great. i can use a BT mouse and a BT keyboard, and BT headphone all at the same time and it works great. I can provide a vid if there are doubts
3. Most is importantly even BoyGeniusReport says http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/03/28/htcs-manilla-gets-screenshotted/ this rom is from the x7510. something i said on the "Athena Project 4.0 coming, but needs...." post 228 but pawel denied this is post 229
in conclusion everyone should stop looking for the release of this rom and start looking for the release of the x7510 cause then and only then will this rom be released. I am only posting this so people can have a realistic outlook on the rom and can stop being dissapointed everyday in the hope it will be released. I did not post this to come down on the team i just feel like there is so much tension on this fourm and i wanted to make my thoughts known.
High Five
Hypothetically speaking...
... Even if this were the case, why would you want him to release pre-release software that could get him in trouble or again, hypothetically, his *source* in trouble? People get fired for leaking stuff, sometimes worse. Personally, I don't need to know where this stuff comes from.
How about we let him work on things and hey, at least there's a better chance that he'll be able to bring us more HTC gems for a possible v5.0.
ok dude the rom is a 7510 rom but no way do i have to wait for it to be released. there still isn't a solid release date. the rom i could give u right now but it needs to properly be tested and bugs be fixed. we release with bugs, u guys complain, we look bad. i can take complaining before the rom then praises when it comes out.
also we have had 6.1 for a while. something like november i got the first athena 6.1 rom with build 19145 if im not mistaken. we have had 6.1 even before that though.
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... Even if this were the case, why would you want him to release pre-release software that could get him in trouble or again, hypothetically, his *source* in trouble? People get fired for leaking stuff, sometimes worse. Personally, I don't need to know where this stuff comes from.
How about we let him work on things and hey, at least there's a better chance that he'll be able to bring us more HTC gems for a possible v5.0.
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1st i never said once that he should release it. what is said was he should tell us he cant release it. i don't remember anywhere in my post and any post for that matter where i said "you should release it right now even if it will get you into trouble or even if its not ready"
On a side note - i also live in orlando, fl and goto ucf do you play halo?
Go Knights!
irus said:
1st i never said once that he should release it. what is said was he should tell us he cant release it. i don't remember anywhere in my post and any post for that matter where i said "you should release it right now even if it will get you into trouble or even if its not ready"
On a side note - i also live in orlando, fl and goto ucf do you play halo?
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No kidding - I'm planning on getting back to school this fall myself. Live right around the corner from the Uni. No Halo, since my box was red-lighting again just before my damn cat knocked a cup of water over onto the PSU for it. So i've got a little bit of work to get my box working again... oh yeah and I was banned from Live just before all that too (modded firmware), so yeah I did play halo. Meh
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also we have had 6.1 for a while. something like november i got the first athena 6.1 rom with build 19145 if im not mistaken. we have had 6.1 even before that though.
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but that is my main point for saying that you can't release it yet. you had wm6.1 since november but released a cooked wm6 rom in late november. Don't get me wrong i am grateful for everything you have done and the only point i am trying to make is that you have to wait to release. I have logical points for these thoughts. example: in "Stop the stupid ap 4.0" post 36 - you told someone you have 2 newer builds than 9.5 build 405 but you can't release it.
Look im not trying to get into a pissing match with you, and nothing productive will come out of us arguing back and forth. So if you say it's still buggy and you need more time to test than its buggy and needs more time to test. i will not say another word about it.
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PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
tomary said:
i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
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oooouch, i think that might be a little harsh. You forget they have already posted 3 roms so i think the people who have donated got their moneys worth
My first thought for the team is if you WANT to release, then there's nothing wrong with realeasing a beta--paid software makers do it all the time. Here is a beta with known bugs. Da-ta-da-tada. There's likely unknown bugs too--user beware. That's why its beta. Heck, while its not as optimal,some companies (cough, cough, microsoft,) can release betas as the real deal.
For free (please donations accepted look at the value) roms/software, the bar shouldn't be higher than that of the commercial stuff.
It's funny how this just suddenly went down hill with all the slandering etc etc... I appreciate the time EVERYONE on the AP Team took to make what was (and most of us if not ALL enjoyed it) and what is to be. I personally donated as a sign of gratitude and saying thank you, heck I would've donated if they had even asked for some sort of donation just to teach how they did it instead of releasing a new ROM. Some of you guys are just down right ungreatful and quickly forget all the hard work and time they Team puts in to stand behind their wonderful ROMS. And lets not forget the tons of apps they cook in the ROMS too. So what's the big deal if people want to donate I did it and I'll be doing it again in the near future.
If the team DOES NOT want to release. That is the team's perogative also. This seeming to hang forever on the edge of release is a little nerve wracking and is hard on the fan base,but so what? If we, the fan base, donate less--really--donations are piddly anyway. The team needs to do what they do for the fun of it and the satisfaction of it.
I think it's about time this ROM was released, bugs'n all. Just release as a Beta.
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but that is my main point for saying that you can't release it yet. you had wm6.1 since november but released a cooked wm6 rom in late november. Don't get me wrong i am grateful for everything you have done and the only point i am trying to make is that you have to wait to release. I have logical points for these thoughts. example: in "Stop the stupid ap 4.0" post 36 - you told someone you have 2 newer builds than 9.5 build 405 but you can't release it.
Look im not trying to get into a pissing match with you, and nothing productive will come out of us arguing back and forth. So if you say it's still buggy and you need more time to test than its buggy and needs more time to test. i will not say another word about it.
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thanx just dont like people saying i cant release this until the 7510 is out. i released snapvue before the shift was out and that was ok. i'll also release this new rom before the 7510 is out. i'll also be able to provide details when the 7510 is out and about what the price should be.
sergiopi said:
PAWEL as I said before: this ISN'T a CUSTOMER'S forum, this is a DEVELOPER'S forum.
Customer want the best (and irrealistic) ROM, a developer want TO DEVELOP and share knowledge, so we are ready to a BUGGY one, you aren't a company. WE LIKE TO PLAY , we aren't customers, again!
Just as an example, I don't care about BT bug, I am pretty sure I have it fixed in a couple of days .A developer forum is a place were people exchange beta, and fix bug, together.
In the excalibur forum, without any "secret" rom, without any "project" , even without any DONATE, kavana (China) posted a rom, rick (GB) improve it, we worked togeter with kavana and rick, now we have TWO good rom!
Release a working, buggy version, believe me, may be you will surprised how people here will be fast to find AND FIX bugs.
Knowledge is something widely spread here and on the NET too! USE THE FORCE LUKE (the force is the NET and the spread knowledge). If you don't trust the FORCE you can't win!
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thats why if i cant get it to my liking by friday it will be released as a beta. the 19181 build was just to unstable. it got un usable after a while. u really wanted me to release that? we tried to make it better and got it to about 80% of what it should be but then decided to go for the new 19202 because we got the ok for that. by friday there will be a rom. if all goes well before that u might have a non beta build.
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i totally agree with you..... and also im pity of those who donated
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you are really getting out of hand. u donate if u like. i provided 4 roms to everyone already. people wanted a vanilla so im making a vanilla. i guess u can't make everyone happy.
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thats why if i cant get it to my liking by friday it will be released as a beta. the 19181 build was just to unstable. it got un usable after a while. u really wanted me to release that? we tried to make it better and got it to about 80% of what it should be but then decided to go for the new 19202 because we got the ok for that. by friday there will be a rom. if all goes well before that u might have a non beta build.
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If you don't mind I don't like getting my hopes up (again). So I'll put it on my calendar for Friday. I'm not hoping for it to be released before that (or maybe I am but trying not to). Dare I say it...? You're not going to disappoint us are you?
And please note. I greatly appreciate your hard work. That’s why I donated! But checking every day to find out that it’s not released it getting a bit tedious . Considering it has been hanging close to being released for quite some time now.
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it will be 100% out on friday. whether in beta form or final form. it'll most likely be afternoon local time because thats when i'll have time to release. i would like a tuesday release though because would be very funny... dont u agree??
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it will be 100% out on friday. whether in beta form or final form. it'll most likely be afternoon local time because thats when i'll have time to release. i would like a tuesday release though because would be very funny... dont u agree??
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A few questions (if you don't mind, if you do just don't answer ):
Will the beta be usable? (maybe good to know for less experienced people);
What's your timezone?
NB: no not funny at all, as I said: I'm not getting my hopes up again.
Well i believe i can finally make this announcment and say we have done our part in delivering the unlocks and roms and it was very fun while it lasted. our team has moved on to the newer vga and qvga devices. look for me personally to be in the touch hd forums work on roms there as long as i can get a device. as some saw my athena is for sale and if anyone is interested u can pm me or reply to the thread. was very nice knowing everyone and i hope to see most of you in the future on the newer devices. hopefully some of you will move to the touch hd and i will see you there.
good bye and good luck with your athenas. it was and still is one amazing device. sad to let her go but its time...
a sad day for the community.
(as if we won't bump on each other in the future.) lol.
take care pawel. and thanks for everything.
ciao!
AP4.0 BlueTooth Stack
It's sad to see you go, but it has been a long and fun ride. THe crowning glory for the team has been the release of AP4, despite all the troubles we've had with it. Michy is doing a stellar job in keeping our appetite's whet with his neverending ROM factory. I do have one final request if I may. The only thing that is keeping me from usin Michy's ROMs (or others for that matter) is the instability of the Bluetooth Stack. This was one area that AP Team hit on the head with AP4 Plat. Please, provide some guidance to Michy on the issue.
On a personal note, I may be following you to the Touch HD crowd when it does become avaiable.
Thank you for your great roms, wish you well and enjoy your HD.
still find AP dual 3.0 fantastic though now may be a little behind.
Your great contribution to this forum will never be forgotton!
Before switching to MichY's roms, I have been faithfully using your roms starting from PK 2 to AP4 for a very long period of time. All those roms ran fast and stable. Everyone of this forum will have the same saying as mine that "Your great contributions to this forum will never be forgotton!"
Hi there PK.
It has been a real slice working with you on the Athena project.We accomplished alot with it, and I am proud to be able to say that I was a part of it. I am currently helping Michy with his roms and still love my Athena.
Good luck with your new projects, and maybe we will work together again one day.
P.S. If you still have your Athena for sale, hit me up on messenger and we can talk about it. I wouldn't mind getting a second one....LOL
Later............... Ron
Ah well, it had to happen, what with all the sexy stuff HTC lately came up with.
Thank you and all the Athena Project Team for your hard work and dedication. I think it's safe to say that among all ROM cooks for the Athena, you guys were the Top Guns and actually MADE the Athena a great and, at last, really FULL-FEATURED PDA-Phone, revealing its true potential. AP ROM evolutions will be sorely missed for those among us who have no plan to change their beloved brick any time soon.
Small wondering on my part: do you favor the HD, as compared to the Raphael, solely because of its screen resolution, or is there something else ? Because I myself am starting to think about which one I'd go for "if I had the opportunity", and I was thinking that a built-in hardware keyboard would probably be more useful than the VGA-WVGA resolution gap...
Thanks for your answer, and once again, for everything !
And have fun with your next elite device, and see you then and there, maybe !
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Ah well, it had to happen, what with all the sexy stuff HTC lately came up with.
Thank you and all the Athena Project Team for your hard work and dedication. I think it's safe to say that among all ROM cooks for the Athena, you guys were the Top Guns and actually MADE the Athena a great and, at last, really FULL-FEATURED PDA-Phone, revealing its true potential. AP ROM evolutions will be sorely missed for those among us who have no plan to change their beloved brick any time soon.
Small wondering on my part: do you favor the HD, as compared to the Raphael, solely because of its screen resolution, or is there something else ? Because I myself am starting to think about which one I'd go for "if I had the opportunity", and I was thinking that a built-in hardware keyboard would probably be more useful than the VGA-WVGA resolution gap...
Thanks for your answer, and once again, for everything !
And have fun with your next elite device, and see you then and there, maybe !
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hd is closest to the athena so thats why. the screen is 3.8 and im going no smaller than the 3.5 in i have on my iphone. i love large screens then theres the 3.5 mm jack the hd has. i use the aux port in my car to listen to music from my iphone and used to from my athena. also the hd has a 5mp camera. with mp the sensor will be decent and bc of the resolution of the pics, most of them will look great on my laptop etc.. also about the keyboard... i been using on screen boards since i got my athena so im used to them and dont miss a hardware keyboard. specially with the smart keyboard on the iphone. wvga will just mean better showing of videos, better web browsing expirence etc..
Heh, thank you for your thourough answer, PK. And well, lol, you DID convince me, too. But since I'm a complicated bast*rd, I now am hesitating between the HD and Sony Ericsson XPeria X1...
But a WinMo without PK cooking ROMs ? Hard to imagine...
Hope you'll have lots of fun with your next device, and hope to try out your future cookies.
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Heh, thank you for your thourough answer, PK. And well, lol, you DID convince me, too. But since I'm a complicated bast*rd, I now am hesitating between the HD and Sony Ericsson XPeria X1...
But a WinMo without PK cooking ROMs ? Hard to imagine...
Hope you'll have lots of fun with your next device, and hope to try out your future cookies.
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i have a friend who has a x1 already(bengalboy, maybe u heard of him?). from what i hear SE is still developing the software for it along with htc. hardware though is pretty final but no final software from what i know. i wouldn't expect it until 09 specially if u want usa 3g. the hd i will try to get and see if there is usa 3g hidden within. if not i'll sell it and wait for whats coming out afterwords and get that.
YEA BABY!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442179
Some things in life are just too good to allow it to fade away:
Pink Floyd
The Rolling Stones
The Who
Athena Project
Need I say more?
So, for all of us DCD fans, could it be that DCD has offered us his last ROM release for the forseeable future? What if it is true (and believe me I hope it isn't)? Has anyone started researching other "stable" alternatives?
Just thought a thread for people to post suggestions or ideas for where we DCDers might go until he returns (if he returns)...
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So, for all of us DCD fans, could it be that DCD has offered us his last ROM release for the forseeable future? What if it is true (and believe me I hope it isn't)? Has anyone started researching other "stable" alternatives?
Just thought a thread for people to post suggestions or ideas for where we DCDers might go until he returns (if he returns)...
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if dcd is goin to be done then i hope he drops DCD3.2.7m2D
without dcd, titans will never keep advancing
dont know about any other stable alts
nuerom 3....
maybe DCD is a student or sumthing...the summer had a lot of releases...maybe he's too busy now to be tinkering with the titan
Don't get me wrong...If DCD is done or just taking a break, that is totally up to him...this is not his job and he certainly doesn't owe us anything. I'm not here to bash him or beg him, just looking for alternatives that might be close to as good...I agree with megaprime.."without dcd, titans will never keep advancing", but we will have to keep working...
I think he's just been busy
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I think he's just been busy
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Searching his recent posts makes it appear he's been busy in the Raphael (Touch Pro) forum. Wonder if he got himself a new phone? Or maybe he's just looking at porting the newer Raphael ROM to the Titan. Whatever, I am sure he's got a good reason for not being around... remember, this is a hobby for him, not a business, and anything he provides to us users is a gift.
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Searching his recent posts makes it appear he's been busy in the Raphael (Touch Pro) forum. Wonder if he got himself a new phone? Or maybe he's just looking at porting the newer Raphael ROM to the Titan. Whatever, I am sure he's got a good reason for not being around... remember, this is a hobby for him, not a business, and anything he provides to us users is a gift.
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dcd said he would get a Touch Pro when it was available. It makes sense that he somehow has one or surely will have one shortly. I hope he has as much fun with it as he had with his Mogul. Ditto for gc, also, when VZW releases its xv6850...... July or August, perhaps..... 2011 or 2012. ;-)
You might want to take a look at this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2789628&postcount=5
It has the manilla 2d already in it. Pretty fast ROM.
Otherwise you can also watch ppcgeeks.com for new ROMs/Kitchens over there.
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So an update eh? How about a public beta? Sorry you all have been waiting so long, there has been much going on in the world of athena on our end and much more in testing. One thing we worked hard on is a true 6.1 NK.exe the ONLY rom anywhere that will have that, a work done by the hardworking cmonex herself. To download go here: http://eliteteam.htc-hackers.mobi/pub/AthenaProjectRedux/ Download the nbh and the wrapper. If you'd like to there is also the pagepool app that you can play with pagepool settings. Please all download play with it and see what you think. Thank you for your support and patience
Added by DaveShaw in LTxda's absence, take from a post by AstainHellbring here.
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...more coming soon.
Project Goals
- New Build
- New Life
- New Features
- New Speed
- New Stability
- Updated Software
- Two Versions - Packed and Clean but nothing in between (wow that rhymed, pretty cool)
- More to come soon...
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no promises but if stuff in school calms down and i find the time i will make that come back tour i was talking about. going back to square one though and making a whole new kitchen if i do. lite and full rom. latest stuff from blackstone, raphael, and diamond. touchflo2d maybe. touchflo3d not in near future. also might be one rom only as im still looking into getting a blackstone.
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no promises but if stuff in school calms down and i find the time i will make that come back tour i was talking about. going back to square one though and making a whole new kitchen if i do. lite and full rom. latest stuff from blackstone, raphael, and diamond. touchflo2d maybe. touchflo3d not in near future. also might be one rom only as im still looking into getting a blackstone.
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Bro, you're always welcome back. Meanwhile we'll keep the machine well greased and parts moving. Come back when you can, we'll all be here waiting on you.
We have some nice plans for this next ROM so check in from time to time and flash your Athena and provide feedback.
yeaahhh!
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Bro, you're always welcome back. Meanwhile we'll keep the machine well greased and parts moving. Come back when you can, we'll all be here waiting on you.
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We have some nice plans for this next ROM so check in from time to time and flash your Athena and provide feedback.
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Yo ltxda,ya giving me a hard on with these roms lol.Good to see the ap team on a comeback.I miss them days on irc waiting for ap4 and pre-testing,at the same time bashing on good ol' irus lol.Still trying to figure out building the cannon .God bless you ltxda,your daughters health,and the rest of ap team.
btw ,ya still on irc?
any help you need lemme kno.
looking foward! peace!
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Yo ltxda,ya giving me a hard on with these roms lol.Good to see the ap team on a comeback.I miss them days on irc waiting for ap4 and pre-testing,at the same time bashing on good ol' irus lol.Still trying to figure out building the cannon .God bless you ltxda,your daughters health,and the rest of ap team.
btw ,ya still on irc?
any help you need lemme kno.
looking foward! peace!
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Hey!
Thanks for your kinds words bro. We sure are on IRC. There isn't much activity for this yet in the public. Today I flashed a alpha ROM to my Athena and it booted fine, all is looking good for this project so far....but i never thought it wouldn't
We should be active in IRC soon with some more testing once we port some nice things over to the ROM. I can't wait. These newer builds, I'm hoping will make the Athena snappier and a bit more pleasant to use.
For now, let everyone know about the project so we can get things going again. I can't wait to see how the thread will turn up again. LOL
Those were some crazy crazy times. I'm sure many people had to replace the F5 key on their keyboards from hitting refresh so much.
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Hey!
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Thanks for your kinds words bro. We sure are on IRC. There isn't much activity for this yet in the public. Today I flashed a alpha ROM to my Athena and it booted fine, all is looking good for this project so far....but i never thought it wouldn't
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We should be active in IRC soon with some more testing once we port some nice things over to the ROM. I can't wait. These newer builds, I'm hoping will make the Athena snappier and a bit more pleasant to use.
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For now, let everyone know about the project so we can get things going again. I can't wait to see how the thread will turn up again. LOL
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Those were some crazy crazy times. I'm sure many people had to replace the F5 key on their keyboards from hitting refresh so much.
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Hellz yeah Bro!
Tha ap4 thread was wild!
its irc.freenode.net #xda-devs is the channel right?
Mods need 2 sticky this!
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Hellz yeah Bro!
Tha ap4 thread was wild!
its irc.freenode.net #xda-devs is the channel right?
Mods need 2 sticky this!
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Yep and sticky on the way.
Thanks for all the hard work AP Elite Team. Hitting F5 and charging my Dopod U1000 .
Dusting, dusting away...
Hi Team I just dusted off my X7500 and will make sure it's all charged up for our next adventure!
Welcome back!!!!
greeeeeeeeeaaaaaat news, ole, ole, ole, the best team for the best rom.
could you please try to port the driver from kaiser or diamond to have all athena users manila 3d working?
thanks.
wellcome back dudes. dusted off my athena as well. ready 4 action
If you guys can come up with something better than MiChy, I will be seriously interested - I have been rock solid with MiChy 2.04D and not seen the need to upgrade further.
One small request - if you can build on Pawel 's work on BlueTooth improvements, that would be awesome. Its my only real gripe at present
MrSums
Liking the interest already. Spread the word and I hope there is as much interest in the project as there was "back in the day"
Nice, really looking forward to an new AP rom!
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If you guys can come up with something better than MiChy, I will be seriously interested - I have been rock solid with MiChy 2.04D and not seen the need to upgrade further.
One small request - if you can build on Pawel 's work on BlueTooth improvements, that would be awesome. Its my only real gripe at present
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Thanks. Although we're not competing against anyone, I'm going to flash his ROM to see what it's about. Our goal is not to compete but to do the best job we can and hope that's enough.
We still have all our old tricks in the bag as well as a few new ones.
Still running AP4 and would be happy to move up if it looks good.
Prayer said for your daughter, BTW...
What about a x7510 version?
I'm glad to hear this news.
The problem is that I have updated my athena to a x7510.
Do you plan to make a versión for this model? Now that we have the HardSPL for the x7510 (thanks cmonex), we need good ROMs.
If you don plan to release a version for the x7510, would you give me authorization to port your new ROM to the x7510? (or at least to try it, because I'm quite new to ROM cooking )
Thanks.
What do you guys think is the best ROM for using the touch pro as it is intended to be first and foremost: a phone.
I'm looking for a rom with no hangups when you want to make a phone call, check a text message or send an email. I find that sometimes my phone hangs (quite badly actually) when I try to use the actual phone bit of my fuze. (IE: Tonight I got pulled over for having an unregistered tag, left the reg at home, tried to call my aunt to bring it to me to avoid having my car impounded and low and behold my phone call screen decides to hang for a good 2 minutes... Lucky the cop felt bad for my seemingly ****ty device and I got off with a warning... :\ )
Also, I find it a pain in the arse sometimes to check, reply to my texts on the go. More often than not the screen hangs for a few seconds between the different screens. I find this so much of an annoyance that I've almost stopped texting all together.
I'm using the RRE 6.5 rom at the moment but this is literally draining the life out of me. any suggestions?
Sounds like you treat your phone as I do ... mission critical device.
RRE's series ROM are great ROMs; a lot of attention goes into ensuring they run as hassle free as possible. That said, Windows Mobile 6.5 is still relatively new and there are some kinks that still need to be worked out.
You may want to look at using a feature lite Mobile 6.1 ROM for the time being. A good indicator of stability is when you see the frequency of kitchen/ROM releases slow down.
HTH,
Thanks for the reply, I'm beginning to think that its a 6.5 issue, but even more so a windows mobile issue... Which is a shame because i've always been a fan of the pc-on-the-go experience of wm as opposed to some proprietary OS by some nameless company for a very specific phone that supports nothing.
Maybe i'm just ranting
It depends on what you want in your ROM.
RRE v3 WM6.5 has been running great for me. There's been a v4 and v5, but I'm sticking with v3 for now since it has run great for me.
WM6.5 isn't for everyone though.
If you don't need TF3D (or don't mind installing it via cab), then look in the March 1st Leaked ATT ROM thread and look for the Da_G stripped version. This is plain WM6.1 with NO HTC stuff. Its as bare as you can get, but fast as hell and very stable. You can find cabs for the HTC stuff if you decide to use it.
+ 1 for NRG minus manila. once you take the manila out, the battery life is excellent....granted, i'm on 2.0 now but was pretty good when i ran 3 as well (switched back for 6.1)....
it's now 5 PM and been off charger since 7:30 AM and with a few phone calls and email twice/multiple texts, i've still got 75% left!!
agree with other member, if you want reliable rom, stick with 6.1. 6.5 has a lot of hiccups. But to each its own. My phone has failed me when I need the most but hey how many times does that happen.
install the new touch pro 6.1 official rom 5.11.xx.xx.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
i made my rom with just that in mind, making the touch pro a good phone first, and a good ppc second. it runs on 6.1 so no hiccups and i tested it extensively.
arrupenthal makes some good stable roms too :}
Why are we having this discussion AGAIN?! Oh yeah, because someone with only 4 posts doesn't want to spend an hour reading but wants to get quick answers to questions that have no easy quick answers.
gmgonzal said:
Why are we having this discussion AGAIN?! Oh yeah, because someone with only 4 posts doesn't want to spend an hour reading but wants to get quick answers to questions that have no easy quick answers.
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He did the right thing. He started a new thread instead of clogging other threads with these questions. No one has to enter this. I've been monitoring this because I'm curious to see what people plug here. It's hard to find practical roms unless you read all 150 pages in each good rom's thread because everyone claims: "fast", "great", "best", "stable"... when they really aren't there yet. It's just that some roms aren't fully troubleshot yet. Some people here want to get their money's worth out of a phone they paid a lot of money for and don't want to devote the better part of a day (at the very least) to find something they'll only find a deal killing bug one month later after spending hours putting programs back on their phone after flashing (even after UC).
Sorry for opinion almost unrelated, but I don't post without some kind of contribution of my own:
I currently have been running RRE v3 and its a great rom, but it has some camera bugs with the auto rotate and wm6.5 has messaging uglies. It is by far my favorite performing rom, but the camera bugs. My phone, to me, has to be a phone, gps, camera and music player. I plan to go back to RRE the latest with the 6.1 rom no manila and put on chome. I'll let you know how it works out.
I hope this thread can be a place in which people can come to take a look at great performing roms and dl packages of optimizing software with little time spent reading through bugs and potential bug fixes. This in mind, I'll be on again tonight after hopefully fully testing what I hope to be my rom for about 6 months only reporting great or bad or good (with Quick fixes only).
Thanks to all the chefs for their time.
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He did the right thing. He started a new thread instead of clogging other threads with these questions.
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I disagree, all the information he wanted was easily accessible. There's no excuse for not taking some initiative instead of opening up yet another "Hey guyz! What's the best ROM out there for my <insert device name here>" thread.
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I agree…asking a question that is answered 100+ times already is not what this site is about. This site is about the developers and people like my self who are members because we like what he developers do should read more and post less.
Remember this:
I this site becomes about he non-developers it will be ruined!
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I plan to go back to RRE the latest with the 6.1 rom no manila and put on chome. I'll let you know how it works out.
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With a win 6.1 and no manila, how looks your today screen? Do you have some kind of screenshot to show?
Thanks
(I'm using an energy 3 rom with win 6.5, and I like the titanium interface, I wonder what I'll use if I go back to 6.1)
I could say that I'm closing this thread out of spite (nobody plugs my ROM? )... but it's not the case. This type of thread is not permitted according to the rules of XDA-Developers.
Although it can seem like a daunting task, the best thing for the OP to do is read through a few ROM threads, the first few posts should suffice, for a list of features and a changelog. [Shameless Plug]. Lastly, check the date of the most recent release, and then jump to the posts from that date, going forward.