Howdy fellas. I just wanted to say thanks a million-5 for all the effort and communication this forumn has. As well as thanks for the tons of useful items to help our phones run better so we can enjoy them on a more personal fun level.
I have searched and tried multiple Radio roms. I have only thus far ever used the Energy roms and not to stray someone from another rom or nothing but so far they run super great.
My primary post is to let people know that in the Ste. Gen, Farmington, Park Hills, Festus Missouri areas that the Radio version 1.02.25.32 has been by far the best Radio Rom (AT&T btw) that I have tried. Places where I couldnt talk at all, it still works. Battery life appears to not be hurt much either. I am still learning a tons of stuff from this forum and I know from my own experience that it can sometimes be hard to find information that applies directly to you. So if anyone from these areas I just wanted to confirm that (im my opinion) this rom is what you need.
Anyhow, thanks to everyone for your great and hard work and useful information. It is appreciate more than you know because im sure people that do appreciate it dont post it sometimes.
Thanks
JJMAN
Fuze, Energy Rom WarHawk, Radio 1.02.25.32
I live in St louis, and im using an energy rom version from a couple weeks ago and havent had a problem, NRGZ28 makes the best roms. And the 1.14.25.05 radio has been the best radio for me and the GPS syncs really fast!
I think this is more a radio question than a ROM question. I would search the radio threads to see if anyone had checked on or about your area. BTW I'm using 1.14.35.25 with matching rilphone.dll and it works great, especially with the GPS...very short lock times...less than 10 secs usually.
Good Luck
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I want to prerequisite this post with the statement that I have read through the raphael wiki and the flash for newbs thread.
I've been a tweaker up till now (Kaiser tweak and now diamond tweak) and finally have gathered up the courage to flash a ROM on my fuze. Couple of quick questions:
First - I'm thinking NATF, any other suggestions on different ROMs and +/- of each? Which is most stable needing least tweaks? I'm on vacation right now and can afford to put in some time on this but once works starts again, 80+hr/weeks, won't have time to mess with this much.
Second - in general, once a ROM is flashed, does it need much work. that is, will I need to keep d/l new updates/tweaks and will it really become time intensive. As mentioned above, if it's going to suck up more time in the future, I might just want to stick with ATT bloat removed and a stock ROM?
Anything else I should know before I set forth??
thanks, I've learned tons from all of you guys/gals on this, fuzemobility, and ATT forums!
I've used NATF, ROMeOS and PROven ROMs. Each worked great for me. I would recommend you test each one to see which one meets your requirements or you like better... just a matter of preference as all 3 are pretty stable.
As for updates, normally there are not much updates unless there are some bugs or something not working as expected. Otherwise, the ROMs are stable enough to run for a while unless a new version comes out and you need the feature or added functionality.
The Fuze is fairly new and the cooks are busy making new ROMs so you may see a release every other day, every week, or once a month... who knows.
I definitely recommend you flash your device with something else instead of leaving the stock AT&T ROM. You'll like your device even more. Even if you don't have time to keep up with the latest release, a cooked ROM will be much better.
Good luck.
NATF for me. It performs the best on my FUZE and is very fast; it destroys the lag of the Stock ATT ROM. But in the end, you have to go with the one that works best for you and your needs.
i've been running RRE by Arupenthall and it has worked great for the last week.
It all depends. In my humble opinion, the level of sofistication goes like this: Da_G>NATF>RRE>ROMeOs>PROven
What I mean by sofistication is basicaly the level of existing softwares on the ROM and "again this is very user dependent" the speed. i exclude Da_G ROMs as they are Manilla ones "completely ripped of most 3rd party software including the TF3D interface" because they are the fastest ever and you can pretty much guess why.
Now if you're going to flash from an original, be prepared for some bugs. It's a "joy Ride" yes, but with some "issues' somewhere. It'll only depend on where you will get the issues and whether you can live with them.
My personal experience which I share with you is the following:
- Being an Egyptian, I did like the NATF ROM but it was too "AT&T" for me
- ROMeos is pretty good and stable but somethings that Monx sticks to in his Roms "which by the way is completely his right" did not appeal to me
- Da_G is super light, super fast but super empty and I use it only if I miss the good old days of my dead i-mate 2020
- RRE and PROven are very competitive and very good as well but I think the PROven one is more accomplished and the RRE is more "AT&T" friendly. These 2 are my favorite candidates right now.
- As for the ELITE one, I cannot give an opinion as I never tried one. In fact I never will until these wonderful ELITE people humble themselves and call their ROM with any other name that do not put them separated from the rest of the NORMAL Chefs who are doing a wonderful job FREE OF CHARGE to our XDA community.
(PLEASE BARE IN MIND THAT THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION WHICH COULD BE BIASED AND COULD BE ALSO WRONG, BUT IS CERTAINLY MY PERSONAL OPINION)
I've looked over the ROMs and the way i picked is just looking at the changelog and the screenshots. Some of them come with tons of stuff, some come with almost nothing. I like the more "nothing" OS so that i can add what i want to add (via CABs) and forget the rest. As a result i chose Da_G's ROM because it's similar to AT&T's minus all their stuff i wont use. I don't need the extra applications some of the others come with but other people out there love those things
Thanks for the input everyone, much appreciated. I guess I'll take a look at a couple of screen shots and go from there....
Great thread. We're not all experts and we haven't all flashed all the ROMs so this is a valuable resource.
Out of curiosity, is there a limit to how many times you can flash a Fuze?
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Great thread. We're not all experts and we haven't all flashed all the ROMs so this is a valuable resource.
Out of curiosity, is there a limit to how many times you can flash a Fuze?
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I don't think there is a true physical limit but NATF in his podcast on fuzemobility said he went through 6 tilts in 13 months since he was flashing so often. he thought it might be related to the numerous flashes and the effect on memory (i'm no electrical engineer so I can't add anything to this statement).
For any new comers to flashing, I do suggest listening to the interview with NATF on fuzemobility about pros/cons and other background on the flash process. http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=768
I'm going to go forth and put on NATF so will keep everyone updated.
One quick question though, if flashing NATF, do I still need a radio or does NATF install a radio on his ROM?
Thanks.
never mind, i found the radio thread under raphael..thanks.
Great thread for us noobs
I know, I know....
but i am not a flash junkie and don't want my first experience with the TP to be flashing 10 roms. I'm just looking to get a decent one (preferably not a black theme ) and run with it to get to know touchflo and the device. Thanks!
There's a good Wiki associated with this device. Get to know the chefs then start reading their threads. Took me about an evening to find what I was looking for.
Just my opinion but, NATF's all the way! And the FuzeBerry of course....
Hi there
Ive coome over from the hermes camp too (although its still running)
i would personally reccomend the lantis os roms but again, and you'll see this all over xda, you will only find the best rom for you after flashing a few
and theres only really a handful to try!
good luck and make sure you've hardspl'd and have your stock rom and radio versions written down or backed up just in case you have to do a warranty return! saves u the hassle of trying to hunt it down in the panic!
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Hi there
Ive coome over from the hermes camp too (although its still running)
i would personally reccomend the lantis os roms but again, and you'll see this all over xda, you will only find the best rom for you after flashing a few
and theres only really a handful to try!
good luck and make sure you've hardspl'd and have your stock rom and radio versions written down or backed up just in case you have to do a warranty return! saves u the hassle of trying to hunt it down in the panic!
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You should try them all, so you can see what the difference between a good and bad rom is. Each rom is built different for different so not all roms may suit your needs..... but i agree on Lantis OS being my favorite right now.
I personally tried Romeo, NATF and Proven and decided to stick with Proven.
I had problems with the screen shutting off during calls with Romeo.
I experienced TF3D lag with NATF.
Proven has been rock solid and I like the Diamond tweaks he's incorporated.
if you don't like TF3D go with Da_G.. I'm actually running a VGA version of HTC Home on mine.. love the speed.
Thread like these usually get closed pretty fast, I'm suprised that yours last a day
It's really all depend on what you like, they are all great. For the past few days, I've tried many of them. And to be honest, there is no BEST one. It's really depend on what you need and what you like.
Da_G is has the cleanest ROM NaTF's
Elite RC2 Is fully loaded with a new feeling
NATF Is stable, and GPS lock is pretty quick (update very often)
Proven, it's like Elite with less Applications and function (cleaner)
Romeo is very stable
.... Those are what i've tried
Check the Wikki in sticky post.
I think it is a good question that should come up from time to time.. sure everyone has their personal preferences but for a new person wanting a quick rundown on the most current ROMS to date.. just saving the guy some time downloading and flashing all those different ROMS. anyone here flashed all released ROMS to date?
I also went from the Hermes (8525) about a week and a half ago. Fuze was my christmas present .
I tried NATF's ROM for about a week and had many problems, which i seemed to ignore because of all its good feedback. I then tried Lantis OS and had no problems at all, I am still currently using it. No errors and speedy fast.
My suggestion is Lantis OS for the moment, but NATF is suppose to be releasing his v4.0 ROM sometime today or tomorrow so you should look out for that as well.
Good luck with your fuze and your flashing, and enjoy that beautiful VGA screen that i loved when i got it compared to the Hermes
I don't think that XDA-developers ever had any problems with folks discussing ROMs and their xp with the various flavors in a rational manner. We usually end up shutting down threads because the first reply is "Use search you id10t!" followed by general thread degeneration.
Anyhoo.. normally I'm one of the chefs, but with this device I've found that Da_G's direction mirrors the way I'd be going anyway. He's more interested in technical improvements to the GDI, GPS etc than in all the additional apps. I'm pretty confident that he's well on his way to creating a solid base ROM that's free for anyone to work from. Exactly what I would have done. Why re-invent the wheel?
This is what these kinds of threads are supposed to be like! As stated by a couple people previously, normally these get dismissed and/or flamed. When people ask these types of questions, usually they are not asking (at least the smart ones aren't) which ROM the SHOULD flash, but rather what is your experiances with the ones you have used.
I understand how confusing it may be trying to decide which one to use - they all look the same as far as applications that are cooked in. Only difference aesthetically are the different themes and that alone is not a deciding factor for me.
Just as everyone has stated - just try some out and see how they feel to you. ie button mapping, folder layout, apps installed, speed, etc. I personally like Aruppenthal's RRE ROM but that's just my 2 cents.
FYI: From what I've seen, EVERY ROM has its own bugs/quirks that may or may not annoy you.
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if you don't like TF3D go with Da_G.. I'm actually running a VGA version of HTC Home on mine.. love the speed.
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Any chance you could post the version your using? I can't seem to find a VGA version and I am getting ready to get rid of TouchFlo 3D. Or post the thread you got it from.
Never Mind....I found it in the Diamond Forum...
I second the Lantis OS. I am using it as well. It is very fast and stable. I had problems with NATF's as well. But I will try NATF's v4.0 when it is released.
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Any chance you could post the version your using? I can't seem to find a VGA version and I am getting ready to get rid of TouchFlo 3D. Or post the thread you got it from.
Never Mind....I found it in the Diamond Forum...
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Not to get off the subject of this thread but which HTC Home VGA are you using? I am using one called PJ HTC Home VGA which is pretty good but wanted to try something different if it is better...
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Not to get off the subject of this thread but which HTC Home VGA are you using? I am using one called PJ HTC Home VGA which is pretty good but wanted to try something different if it is better...
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The one I'm using is a cab called htchome2.cab that I found in the diamond forum...works fine but the media player tab does not work.
And I have been using either Lantis or DaG Rom's....I use Blackberry Connect which adds lag to the fuze anyway but it seems to affect these Roms the least. I would be interested in hearing what Rom's Blackberry Connect users are fond of as it seems to make a big difference.
i too just got my Fuze from Kaiser. right now im using RomEOS and really like it. i might try the Da_G because i really dont care about TF3D.
Hey all, well I been around for a bit and have been reading and never really posted for the fear of getting the Fire of using the "Search Function". So I read my way through the handsets I have had. I worked my way from the Cingular 8525 to the AT&T Tilt 8925 and pretty soon I should be getting my hands on a Fuze as the Moto I have been using is acting a fool.
So here's what I want to find out and please don't throw the fire at me. When I had my Tilt I had tkalli; thanks Ted; who recommended the HD ROMs and I worked my way from there. I would like to know what ROMs you would recommend and use and why any thoughts and opinions would never go read since I am very willing to learn. Thank you all.
Opinions vary from user to user. Try them all and see which you like most.
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Hey there wildcard, nice to hear your picking up a fuze! I've been running the Energy 2.0 series ROM since they are very cutting edge and the chef (NRGZ28) releases a new ROM almost daily which fulfills my flashing needs.
Really I've tried most all the ROM's here (nothing with WinMo 6.5 though) and must say that we are lucky to have such wonderful chefs as there are soooo many great ROM's to choose from.
I've been reading through a couple of threads on this board concerning upgrading my XV6800 to WM6.5 and I have what may possibly be some stupid questions.
First - I'm the happy owner of two XV6800's so I was planning on using the not-currently-activated one as my guinea pig in case I brick the phone. I've downloaded what appear to be the most current upgrade files from theUnlockr.com and some instructions from that site. What I need to know is is theUnlockr a reliable site? Are these the most current files available? I'm currently upgraded to the 3.57.605.2 ROM and the 3.37.78 radio and I am looking to upgrade the HardSPL (which is what, exactly?), the radio (to 3.42.50 - which, if I am not mistaken, someone mentioned was eating battery life?) and the ROM using the version Unlockr has up as their latest favorite (RMverizonTitanWM65V2[1].1Heavy). I am pretty sure I can follow the directions that were given, but I'm hoping someone here can advise me if I should.
With all these updates running around everyone's 'kitchens' - it's hard for a relative noob like me to know which is the best update for her. I don't really need GPS - though I may load Garmin XT on my phone at some point - but I would like to have an efficient, elegant ROM on my phone that will not hog all my memory and will still give me at least all my current functionality (though hopefully more). Should I even be looking to update to WM6.5? Which update version do you folks think is the best for the Titan/Mogul/XV6800?
Thank you in advance for your patience and for the AMAZINGLY generous soul who has spent the time to generate these files! I went to the Verizon site and they don't seem to even remember what the 6800 looks like! And HTC doesn't have much either. I was amazed to find these sites. You guys are a godsend!
Ariel
Follow below just use whatever rom you want. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33857
Thank you for the thread link. I've upgraded roms before, but it never hurts to have detailed directions like that. Good deal. However, what I was looking for was advice on whether or not the 6800 performs better under the available roms or if, in the experienced opinion of the developers on this site, it was better left as Microsoft intended? Does the fact that it only comes with 64 MB of RAM hurt it when loading WM6.5? Most of the new devices coming out with 6.5 have more than that and I wondered if I could get some advice before I jumped in. That's all.
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Thank you for the thread link. I've upgraded roms before, but it never hurts to have detailed directions like that. Good deal. However, what I was looking for was advice on whether or not the 6800 performs better under the available roms or if, in the experienced opinion of the developers on this site, it was better left as Microsoft intended? Does the fact that it only comes with 64 MB of RAM hurt it when loading WM6.5? Most of the new devices coming out with 6.5 have more than that and I wondered if I could get some advice before I jumped in. That's all.
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The Titan is a very durable device. In my experience you can flash it at least a hundred times..
So my advice is to try as many ROMs as you like. 6.1, 6.5, Light, Heavy, Naked, Stock. Whatever it doesnt matter. Just keep going until you find what floats your boat.
LOL! Well, I doubt I'll be doing it a hundred times, but I figured I'd try and save myself some mistakes by asking the experts who have.
BTW, I think you were the one who came up with the ROM I've loaded (2.1 heavy) - very nice so far! I'm still getting a feel for it and I haven't tried to load any of my own software on it yet, but so far it's very slick. Thanks!
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LOL! Well, I doubt I'll be doing it a hundred times, but I figured I'd try and save myself some mistakes by asking the experts who have.
BTW, I think you were the one who came up with the ROM I've loaded (2.1 heavy) - very nice so far! I'm still getting a feel for it and I haven't tried to load any of my own software on it yet, but so far it's very slick. Thanks!
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No problem sir. Glad I could be of assistance. My main computer is broke at the moment and I awaiting a new power supply now, currently using my spare computer (I dont have a spare 1000watt power supply to run my main pc for the banterers lol). Or else I would have my ROMs updated. More for you to mess around with. But the ones I have uploaded now should work out fine. I noticed in the nuetools folder though the leds shortcut is a folder. I fixed that though just have to re-cook and re-upload. Among other changes.
If I were to upgrade to the fix you describe, I'd only have to do the ROM again, right? The hardSPL and radio would be fine? See? I told you, stupid questions...
you are correct only the rom
I know that it depends where you live etc, but i noticed a few other HD2 users from my neck of the woods (south wales) just wondered what radio your using on your HD2's and how you finding the signal etc.
I'm currently using radio 2.12.50.02_2
And battery life is good, signal is ok but no where near as good as my old sony ericsson's.
I also get a fair bit of fluxuation in the signal, this morning i tried to reply to a text and it wouldn't send, about 4 sec later had nearly a 3 bar signal and resent and it was fine.
Does this just happen ? is the hardware just not as good as the old phone's used to be ?
Or has someone tried a different radio in this sort of area and got better results.
I had a HTC Magic and the signal wasn't as good as the sony's and my mates are saying there Iphone 3gs phones are poorer to than older phone's, so are these smartphones just not as good a phone as the older ones ?
Thanks for any info...
I have the same question Looking for a great Radio for Poland/ Central Europe.
Sortac
your tempting the wrath of mods asking questions like that, its completely subjective, meaning everyone has different ideas on whats best and we're not grown up enough to have civilised debates on such subjects so id give up and just try them one at a time, be sure to use the correct .50 / .51 version to go with your ROM otherwise you will have some issues ive had better luck with the more recent ones however, in my opinion the early ones (2.07.*)had better sound but the battery on my device with the programs i used didnt last as long, then we went through a period.....in my opinion.....where the sound was shoddy, and now the most recent ones seem to be holding their own according to me, that is
mines 2.12.50.02_2 but make sure you get the right one or you may end up bricking it!
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your tempting the wrath of mods asking questions like that, its completely subjective, meaning everyone has different ideas on whats best and we're not grown up enough to have civilised debates on such subjects so id give up and just try them one at a time, be sure to use the correct .50 / .51 version to go with your ROM otherwise you will have some issues ive had better luck with the more recent ones however, in my opinion the early ones (2.07.*)had better sound but the battery on my device with the programs i used didnt last as long, then we went through a period.....in my opinion.....where the sound was shoddy, and now the most recent ones seem to be holding their own according to me, that is
mines 2.12.50.02_2 but make sure you get the right one or you may end up bricking it!
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Ok I get it, thanks. One other thing I'm unsure of -> are radios supposed to be installed before the roms? or can it be installed after the rom? I understand Hspl is needed first of all..
Yeah i get its subjective which is why i said "people's Experiances" as for getting the mods all wound up, i would have thought it quite usefull to know what radio people are using for specific area's and how they have found them in day to day use, could save someone an awfull lot of messing about which i presumed was the whole purpose of this site
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Yeah i get its subjective which is why i said "people's Experiances" as for getting the mods all wound up, i would have thought it quite usefull to know what radio people are using for specific area's and how they have found them in day to day use, could save someone an awfull lot of messing about which i presumed was the whole purpose of this site
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Agree with Wakers on this one..
Should be a thread of what ppl use for their region that suits them best
I have a pretty bad signal in my appartment, so its essential to have the right radio version. I tried a couple of radios and 2.06.51.07 is by far the best. The signal bars are the same as with any other radio, but calls don't drop and data connections are stable.
Yes, HSPL first, very important, then i thinki did ROM and then Radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
will help you the most.
yes in an ideal world we could all get along fine but every now and then we get people treating us like children it has got better recently but to give you an idea, not too long ago we were told subjective comments are not aloud and we cant say, xyz ROM best incase we hurt the feelings of cooks, apparently human beings lack the ability to understand the difference between subjective comments and facts, but anyway, read that link end to end, read some of the comments after it and chances are any question you may have will have been answered already on there,.
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Ok I get it, thanks. One other thing I'm unsure of -> are radios supposed to be installed before the roms? or can it be installed after the rom? I understand Hspl is needed first of all..
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Heres my way of flashing...
Task29
Flash Radio of my choice
Flash Rom of my choice
Hard Reset
Flash the same ROM...
All these done without having the phone pass the bootloader. Until the last step.