Hi Fellow XDA'ers!
I have a touch dual (with WM6.5).
I like the look of the Hero but have a few reservations.
Firstly, I read posts that it struggles to sync with Outlook!!?? - can this be sorted? - ActivSync (by BTooth) is very handy and does the job well.
Secondly, I like having the apps such as IGO8 or TOMTOM to hand on my phone, should I need it.
Can I install these apps (or similar) on the Hero?....In other words - can WM apps work on Android?
thanks
andy_dutch said:
Firstly, I read posts that it struggles to sync with Outlook!!?? - can this be sorted? - ActivSync (by BTooth) is very handy and does the job well.
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I think syncing with Outlook over Bluetooth is out of the question. It can sync Contacts and Calendar (only those two) over the USB cable with the use of the 'HTC Sync' software. That software is not available _yet_ on the HTC site, but apparently it IS included on the memorycard included with the Orange bundle that is now shipping.
andy_dutch said:
Secondly, I like having the apps such as IGO8 or TOMTOM to hand on my phone, should I need it.
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Those two applications are not (yet?) available for Android. There are a few other navigation solutions available, but I'm under the impression they are not the level of iGO or TomTom. Also, I have no idea on which countries they support or what price they are available at.
andy_dutch said:
Can I install these apps (or similar) on the Hero?....In other words - can WM apps work on Android?
thanks
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No. There are a whole bunch of Android apps, but software made for Windows Mobile will simply not work (and never will) on Android. They will have to make a special Android version for it, and for utilities and tweaks that is simply not easily done.
dipje said:
There are a few other navigation solutions available, but I'm under the impression they are not the level of iGO or TomTom. Also, I have no idea on which countries they support or what price they are available at.
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ALKs CoPilot Live 8 is available on the market and is quite competitively priced at £22.60 for a one region version (e.g. UK maps).
I've not played with it extensively, as I bought it as a backup for my regular Garmin satnav unit, but it is definitely much slicker than some of the other alternatives for Android that I've tried (e.g. AndNav).
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
ALKs CoPilot Live 8 is available on the market and is quite competitively priced at £22.60 for a one region version (e.g. UK maps).
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Seems to be a good TomTom alternative! Thanks for the Tip! And they even have 'whole of western europe' or only 'benelux'. That makes it much more affordable if you never leave The Netherlands for example .
Since I'm an Android newbie myself (well, not even an Android newbie, still waiting for my Hero): On the CoPilot site, on 'where to buy' to say to go to the Android market. But they also have three picture, some sort of square barcode. I've seen those more around Android oriented pages. How do they work?
It's a QR code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code) which is essentially a 2-dimensional barcode that can hold a variety of data. In this case, it is holding a URL.
If you download a barcode reader from the market (e.g. Barcode Scanner by ZXing team, which is the one I use) you can use the phones camera to "read" the barcode and it will then allow you to jump to the URL in the browser.
Regards,
Dave
Winmo apps on Android
You never know what could happen guys!
I currently dual boot windows 7 ultimate and Linux Ubuntu.
And as all linux users are aware, there is a nice little app called wine, Wine allows us to run and use many windows apps in a Linux enviroment...
Cant be that much different with Android (linux) and windows mobile.. can it?
Would be a fantastic step and i think possibly the final push for many winmo users!
Im still struggling to choose my self....From HD to Hero?? mmmm
There are few things you need to know about the young android:
1. You cannot save apps to memory card unless rooted.
2. You cannot receive files via bluetooth unless rooted.
overall, Android is a lot better than Winmob
Sorry if this is a stupid question :-(
I run a number of Java applets under WINMO via an applet manager (ESmertec for example). Will these run on Android?
CoPilot is working brilliantly on my Magic and I'll be putting it on my Hero when I get it at weekend.
Here's a great thing - any apps that I've purchased from the Android Market are tied to my google checkout account - When I sign in on my Hero and go to market, those apps will show as purchased and downloadable for me. Also my calendar and contacts will automatically sync to my Hero.
As far as WM apps are concerned, I've used both WM6 and android devices - Not missing anything on my Magic that I had on WM now that Turn By Turn Nav is there. Some apps are already ported over - Docs To go, and recently Touchpal Keyboards.
The ability to search for, find, pay for (if needed) and download software on the fly is just priceless. The fact that most apps are free or very cheap is even better. I'd not go back to WinMo now for anything...
However, you're just gonna have to get one in your hand and see for yourself - its all personal preference amongst the top handsets really.
well my upgrade is being delivered in the morning! yey! HTC Hero on orange..
Wonder if tomtom will port any time soon? should be an easy job considering the tom tom units are linux driven!
jackdaniels_lee said:
Wonder if tomtom will port any time soon? should be an easy job considering the tom tom units are linux driven!
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I've been a TomTom user (on my HTC Trinity and HTC Touch Pro) for almost 3 years now. My HTC Hero will be arriving on Monday morning and I'm actually pretty excited about the change I'll be making to CoPilot.
Not that there's anything wrong with TomTom, but the newer version of CoPilot looks very cool, and it might be nice to try something different.
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I've been a TomTom user (on my HTC Trinity and HTC Touch Pro) for almost 3 years now. My HTC Hero will be arriving on Monday morning and I'm actually pretty excited about the change I'll be making to CoPilot.
Not that there's anything wrong with TomTom, but the newer version of CoPilot looks very cool, and it might be nice to try something different.
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I have heard a lot of people complaining about the version of CoPilot crashing on the Hero, not sure why this is. TomTom are releasing an iPhone version so who knows, might make its way over to Android in about 3 years?
For me, Copilot certainly crashed. It was not a patch on the stability of Garmin XT. The application felt unfinished with a lot of times when not a full crash, lack of keyboard reponse. Tbh, this failure was the straw that broke the Hero's back
I've not had a single problem with copilot on my magic. Fully tested with postcodes etc and long journeys. Its VERY cheap compared to most satnavs, can be used without any data assistance at all, and very quick to reroute etc.
I have heard about some probs but they have mostly seemed to be related to people trying to hack it or get the maps running without paying, and I know that copilot has added a few layers of security since I bought mine for magic - initially it just installed and needed your google checkout number.
Then it needed that, and you then got a license code and device ID thingy.
I had an update early on from version .303 to .327 which made mine stop loading - One email to support, told me to uninstall ALL, including the maps folder, and it was back working perfectly... I personally think the voices of folks having probs trying to get it running without paying are clouding the issue a bit - I've only heard from one (cbailey) who I know paid, but still got crashes.
Daisy - Was happy with my G1 (since Jan) Happy with my Magic(since beginning of June), and gonna be happy with my Hero I think...
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I've not had a single problem with copilot on my magic.
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You're in the UK right? I have been looking into copilot as a replacement for my old TomTom once I get my Hero. And although copilot said on their website they have european versions, if I browse the store (though Cyrket for example) I only see their USA map pack / application. Is this location / localization dependant somehow? Why can't I see the european maps in the market?
Dayzee said:
Daisy - Was happy with my G1 (since Jan) Happy with my Magic(since beginning of June), and gonna be happy with my Hero I think...
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I think we got a big android fan here
In the Market, you get the option for a One Region map - Uk and Ireland comes under that - for £25.99 (Market shows 22 something but then checkout adds VAT for UK)
I think these options are only seen/available on market for android phones. I think they are not offered as products for other platforms, and you only get details once you have bought CoPilot 8 for android.
I personally downloaded CoPilot Central and got my maps via PC through that. You get a Membership name and password when you checkout at google Checkout - I was sent an email with details of that. The actual copilot programe for android downloads to your fone OTA like other apps, but the map fetcher is on PC. I think you CAN get the maps OTA to your fone, but I thougyht that seemed silly and would take ages and be heavy on your data allowance etc.
CoPilot central is free I think - You can get it here
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/central/
Daisy xxx
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I think you CAN get the maps OTA to your fone, but I thougyht that seemed silly and would take ages and be heavy on your data allowance etc.
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You can get them OTA direct onto the phone via cellular data, but the program advises you do it over WiFi.
Regards,
Dave
cbailey said:
For me, Copilot certainly crashed. It was not a patch on the stability of Garmin XT. The application felt unfinished with a lot of times when not a full crash, lack of keyboard reponse. Tbh, this failure was the straw that broke the Hero's back
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No problems at all with CoPilot APART from TouchFlo seems to lock up when I exit. Not sure if anyone else has this problem.
Other than that, it has no lag what-so-ever, which I used to always have with TomTom. Big thumbs up for me, even more so when I sort out the locking issue when exit, but thats no biggie.
I recently upgraded to HTC HD2 from a Nokia N95. I use my phone a lot for work when finding exact coordinates, and on the N95 I was able to input GB Ordnance Survey coordinates into a program (UTMData) and it would convert them to at least 10 other grid systems and, most importantly, insert a favourite into Google Maps.
There was also a function where inserting a placemark into Nokia maps would result in the same thing - a place in Google Maps. I realised today I almost can't get by without this functionality so I'm pretty desperate to know if anyone has produced a similar...something...that will replace my old phone?
In summary, I'm looking for a program that can convert OS coords into lat/long or UTM format, and ultimately place them into at least Google Maps(or a KML file), or additionally into OV2/CSV (for CoPilot Live 8 - when the POI functionality is updated), preferably in fewer steps as possible and defenitely WITHOUT the aid of a computer - I just don't carry one with me.
Cheers
Location Based Apps
Now that i have a working BT (courtersy of CM7) and a BT GPS ($35 at amazon), i started looking for location based apps - here's a short summary of what i've used
google maps/navigation - yes works great including turn by turn but you do need a wifi connection to get tfe maps updated (my mifi works great in this regard). As a work around if i pre plan my route while i am within wifi, i can follow that route without wifi
copilot -http://www.alk.com/copilot/ is a $5 navigation program, you get to download hte maps lcoally (the North America maps was a 1.5GB download). in my short testing this works really well - the maps on a 7 inch screen are just great and easy to see. The street names for the next maneuver are in big bold letters so you can miss it. One nit though is it does not call out the street names
Beerby - Beerby - Android app on AppBrain
yes it shows you locations of where you can buy beer- around you
Gowalla -http://www.appbrain.com/app/gowalla/com.gowalla a social travel guide is how its described - basically lets you mark and share locations with frineds
Zagat NRU - Zagat nru | Droid Apps - is a restaurant locator using the metaphor of a compass/radar - with locations of restaurants marked on the compass
not on this list but i am gonig to try to test this weekend is SCVNGR - a scavenger hunt app
well if you have a cool location based app, please share
I have read about some FPS program that does not require data or any cost and it runs entirely off of downloaded openstreet maps files, does anyoen know what program this is I can no longer find it.
Thank you!!
Mapfactor Navigator 10 Free is a free offline navigation software which uses OpenStreetmaps data files. You need to download the maps on your Windows PC and copy them onto your Touch HD.
URL: navigatorfree.mapfactor.com/en/
Try this: http://navicomputer.com/
The very best offline GPS program I've ever seen is noniGPSPlot which you will find =>here<=.
There you will also find the program MapView. With MapView it is very easy to download kalibrated maps from google, openstreetmap and others. With it you can also download kalibrated satelite fotos and use them like maps in noniGPSPlot.
It is not a car navigation program but it is a GPS program for hikers, sailors, pilots and so on. The programs are free, but because they are so wonderful, I donated to the developer - the first time in my life.
- Thunichgud -
Dieselhorst said:
Mapfactor Navigator 10 Free is a free offline navigation software which uses OpenStreetmaps data files. You need to download the maps on your Windows PC and copy them onto your Touch HD.
URL: navigatorfree.mapfactor.com/en/
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^this^
I compared it side by side with TomTom7.
This had more UK postcodes and better POI.
Very impressed.
Dieselhorst said:
Mapfactor Navigator 10 Free is a free offline navigation software which uses OpenStreetmaps data files. You need to download the maps on your Windows PC and copy them onto your Touch HD.
URL: navigatorfree.mapfactor.com/en/
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so I am using this, I might of done something wrong, I am tryign to get to a particular street in Florida I d/led the enditre state of florida and it is apparently not finding it, and th street is not new or anything.. maybey its just user error I dunno.
7499 Montague St
Tampa, FL 33635
Is there a way to make the program more intuitive, it took me a while to figure out how to type in tampa then it offers me like 6 different options for tampa, i have no idea what tampa I should use when I'm putting in a place. and the zip code is not recognized either.
Any Ideas?
I've been trying to find a nav app that will let me import pre-planned trips.
In my research I found only two; 1) copilot, 2) HTC Locations with Trips tab.
Well I can't stand #1, and it seems that #2 was only available in Asia, unless I'm missing something? it seems like a feature that should be standard as it has since the first days of dedicated gps devices but it still hasn't arrived on Android, not even in the Google suite of apps despite the constant posts in the Google forums requesting this function.
being able to create a specific route or record a route for the purpose of sharing and reuse I don't think is a lot to ask.
until this happens their will always be a market for a dedicated GPS.
Neil
neil85ae86 said:
I've been trying to find a nav app that will let me import pre-planned trips.
In my research I found only two; 1) copilot, 2) HTC Locations with Trips tab.
Well I can't stand #1, and it seems that #2 was only available in Asia, unless I'm missing something? it seems like a feature that should be standard as it has since the first days of dedicated gps devices but it still hasn't arrived on Android, not even in the Google suite of apps despite the constant posts in the Google forums requesting this function.
being able to create a specific route or record a route for the purpose of sharing and reuse I don't think is a lot to ask.
until this happens their will always be a market for a dedicated GPS.
Neil
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Try this … Orux maps … market link https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5vcnV4Lm9ydXhtYXBzIl0.
Web site has a help forum … http://www.oruxmaps.com/index_en.html
I only use it for Aviation and I import maps with preplanned flights.
It supports a number of different maps that can be side loaded on your sdcard so no data connection is needed.
Edit ... I forgot to add it's Free
that's a nice non-data tracker, like Google's My Tracks without the 3g map, thx..... but I still can't record for vehicle nav with text to speech which is what I'd really like.
Neil
neil85ae86 said:
that's a nice non-data tracker, like Google's My Tracks without the 3g map, thx..... but I still can't record for vehicle nav with text to speech which is what I'd really like.
Neil
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See my post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367329
neil85ae86 said:
I've been trying to find a nav app that will let me import pre-planned trips.
In my research I found only two; 1) copilot, 2) HTC Locations with Trips tab.
Well I can't stand #1, and it seems that #2 was only available in Asia, unless I'm missing something? it seems like a feature that should be standard as it has since the first days of dedicated gps devices but it still hasn't arrived on Android, not even in the Google suite of apps despite the constant posts in the Google forums requesting this function.
being able to create a specific route or record a route for the purpose of sharing and reuse I don't think is a lot to ask.
until this happens their will always be a market for a dedicated GPS.
Neil
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I purchased Navigon assuming it would do this, but it doesn't. Great app otherwise.
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Try this … Orux maps … market link https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5vcnV4Lm9ydXhtYXBzIl0.
Web site has a help forum … http://www.oruxmaps.com/index_en.html
I only use it for Aviation and I import maps with preplanned flights.
It supports a number of different maps that can be side loaded on your sdcard so no data connection is needed.
Edit ... I forgot to add it's Free
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that looks like a perfect companion to my Colorado GPS! I tracked our whole summer holiday with it, but it's be great to be able to see that track on a mobile device (that's a bit larger than that 2-something inch screen that my Colorado has )