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Sorry for my ignorance but im a novice as far as pda's are concerned. I have looked through many posts but can't come up with an answer. I have just received my spv m2000 and need to know what I need to use it for sat nav in my car. Could anyone please advice? sorry if their is already a thread on this subject but im in a bit of a hurry as I am heading off for Southampton on a few days and need to get some gear ordered.
i am in the same situation as you. from research tomtom navigator with version3 software is the best option with either the gps reciever of bluetooth or wired
p1tse said:
i am in the same situation as you. from research tomtom navigator with version3 software is the best option with either the gps reciever of bluetooth or wired
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i believe that tom tom 3 is the best but which bluetooth reciever and how much? There are a few on ebay but i dont want to get ripped offwith some cheap inferior one
I have heard good reports of emtac, particularly this model : http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=EMTAC_GPS_TRINE
I just got a Altina GBT-708 BT GPS off eBay, and have been testing it with MS Pocket Streets 2004 (free as part of my MSDN subscription) -- it works quite well, given the limits of the Pocket Streets software. I'll probably try the DeLorme software next -- it's only $35 as opposed to $150 for TomTom, and I'm a cheap bastard
The Altina can be had for $75-$100, and supports WAAS/EGNOS for extra accuracy -- it uses the same GPS chipset as the TomTom unit, at roughly half the price. One caveat about the Altina -- it's advertised as being able to work over USB, but it doesn't since it shows up as an different device than its driver expects. Not an issue for me, as both the systems I'll use it with are BT-enabled.
The tomtom bluetooth is good, the latest version has a removable battery also. Personally I use a cabled gps because I was having to power the xda in the car so I saw no reason to have a wireless setup when the same plug powers the gps also.
All you will ever need!!! for GPS info
Here it is.. again
www.pocketgps.co.uk
The best site around!
I got a cheap one off ebay, it works fine, paid £50ish, have to manually establish a bluetooth connection with it each time I want to use it but other than that its fine.
I use TomTom on my M2000 and Destinator on the carPC, TomTom wins hands down.
I use an M2000 on Orange with NavMan Smart ST V3. Works superbly and I love the 3D orientation.
Use it with a Holux cradle. You can read a review and my comments there. Mixed opinions on the product from me but the concept is good. Since I posted I have doctored my old nokia dash mount to fix it permanently without the wobble-arm
Still getting lockups if I start SmartST in the cradle. NavMan say they don't support this phone!!!
I did try the tom tom cradle with an external gps reciever but it wouldn't hold on to the port and fell over all the time. Would prefer a similar solution to the Holux but if you want a portable GPS solution the Holux is OK albeit with some issues ....... that speaker!!!!! AAAAGHHH. Fine now though. Read the review for more.
A couple of things worth noting...
Just to add a little info to this thread.
I have an SPV M2000. The information I found on the internet at www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk and www.gpsforless.co.uk says that the TomTom GPS units are some of the best available. Mine works perfectly but I'm sure others are as good if not better.
One argument for wired and as opposed to Bluetooth GPS is as follows.
Wired means that you can use your Bluetooth headset if you get a call during your journey. Also no headset cable to get tangled in your flailing arms as you spin the steering wheel. Minus point unsightly wires across dashboard.
Bluetooth GPS means that you can use your GPS system away from the car as the Bluetooth unit is battery powered. You cannot use Bluetooth headset with it so problems as described above.
Just a couple of points but worth considering.
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Just to add a little info to this thread.
Bluetooth GPS means that you can use your GPS system away from the car as the Bluetooth unit is battery powered. You cannot use Bluetooth headset with it so problems as described above.
Just a couple of points but worth considering.
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Sorry I dont belive this to be correct, I have the M1000 and I can/do use the bluetooth GPS and Headset at the same time..
dogo
I have an M2000 and i can use sat nav and a bluetooth headset, the M2000 disconnects from the GPS and connects to the headset (this process takes about half a second) during the duration of the call, and then it reconnects back to the GPS once the call is over
its true that you cannot use sat nav and make calls with bluetooth at the sametime, but you cannot see the screen or hear the sat nav program during a call, so what does it matter?
but it does switch seamlessly over, so do not be put off using a bluetooth GPS and a BT headset with your M2000
Oh, and by the way. the reason i chose a bluetooth GPS is because it is a self contained unit, so when it is powered in the car even when he car is switched off, it has always aquired a signal so no waiting when i get in the car for my position to be picked up
I've a Parrot BT CK3000 car kit and BT GPS and both work together fine, although I have less hassle if the GPS and my M2000 are connected first.
Just to clarify things here...
Previously I was running TomTom Navigator 3 on SPV M1000 and now have upgraded to TomTom Navigator 5 on SPV M2000.
On both Pocket PCs and with both versions of TTN, I was able to use bluetooth GPS AND use bluetooth headset to make calls etc without TTN packing up.
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Thanks guys, I stand corrected.
Using gps away from the car would probably be useful for walkers and cyclists. I was unaware of the auto switchover. Lets just hope you don't get a call at a particularly complicated intersection.
I suppose that fact that i can sometimes spend 20 minutes on a call in the car would make BT gps useless for me. I'm glad I chose wired.
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I have both wired and BT. Got the wired one way back with Destinator 2 on my original XDA (Bluetooth not an option at the time). Got BT GPS last year for XDAII and found that as I use SatNav mainly in the car I tend to use the wired one - no conflict with headset and charges the phone at the same time, so I don't have to remember to charge 2 devices. The original Xda connector has worked fine in XDA, XDAII and MDAIII.
By the way, three of my friends have bought the following cheap BT GPS from Expansys
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717
And all say it works fine.
HELP
I HAVE BEEN GIVEN A SPV M2000 IT ALREADY COMES WITH MEMORY CARD WHICH HAS TOM TOM INSTALLED ON IT EVERYTIME I PUT MEMORY CARD IN TOMTOM SCREEN COMES UP THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO HOW DO I USE THIS THING DO I NEED ANY ADDITIONAL STUFF
IM REALLY NEW AT THIS AND WOULD APPRECIATE ANY KIND OF HELP
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Hi
I have a 1 GB memory card that has the latest tomtom installed(tomtom navigator 5). I use it for my XDA Exec. It also has alerts for speed cameras.
I am selling the memory card with tomtom software and also i have a brand new bluetooth GPS reciever.
Any one interested please make me an offer.
Thanks
Which Bluetooth GPS Receiver do you recommend for the Blueangel with WM5 (Helmi 1.3.1)?
Thanks.
I think that ANY bluetooth GPS receiver will work fine with Helmi, as well as with any other ROM. I would recommend anything on SirfStarIII chipset and... that's all. This is so standard stuff, that there are no problem expected. I would more concentrate on size, battery life (if you need it) and... the way it looks like
In fact I'm not so experienced on this GPS stuff. I would like to buy a Bluetooth GPS Receiver but I don't know what to look and not sure if it would work on my pda2k with wm5. So ANY information, suggestion and experience from you will be highly appreciated. Thanks for your help.
I have the I-Blue GPS it has great bettery life (30hrs) and is very good. I use it with TomTom v6 which I also find great.
Ive been using the Globalsat BT 359 w/ my wizard and it's great so far.
But, Im wondering if Im wasting money.
Ive got the Data Unlimited Plan w/ Telenav GPS service coming in at around $50 monthly.
Ive seen some ppl using the Navizon P2P Wireless Positioning with the Local option for free.
So my question for all the GPS users is,"what's the best setup?" And/or the cheapest?
I got an iBlue BT GPS receiver off eBay for $80 including the car vent mount for my Tmo MDA. The software can be pricey if you can't find a free copy, but once you have that, you don't have to pay anything monthly. You don't even need to have data on your account.
Anybody know what would be the best BT GPS receiver for being wired into my car for power??
I basically want to leave the receiver in the car at all times and be able to connect to it when needed and not have to worry about it being charged and such.
Thanx!
Try then Rikaline GPS-6033 which can be found on eBay for 50-70. I had never heard of this brand or even know how reputable it is, but their reciever has an auto function, which, when attached to the car via the included charger, and set on "auto" mode, it will turn on and off automatically with your car so you never have to worry about battery.
I also wanted this feature so I took a chance on the reciever and have been quite happy with is so far.
It also comes with magenteic mounts so you can keep the reciever secure in your car.
Running with Holux236 and TomTom 6 with my Wizard. Works like a charm. No problems.
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Thameth said:
Anybody know what would be the best BT GPS receiver for being wired into my car for power??
I basically want to leave the receiver in the car at all times and be able to connect to it when needed and not have to worry about it being charged and such.
Thanx!
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Any of them will do just get a hardwire kit from Best Buy or something and tap into your fuse box or a hot wire in the steering column, I have mine hook up to my wiper fuse so it'll be on only when the car is on.
garmin gps10
I have the Garmin GPS 10. It is bluetooth and works with my laptop as well. Not real fond of the included software, wish I had TomTom.
http://www.garmin.com/products/gps10/
It seems to slow my processor to a crawl, so I currently use it in my car with an old HP ipaq 5450 and no longer have it installed on my Cingular 8125.
-Go0se
"God bless Bob Stoops and God bless America."
dodgy said:
Running with Holux236 and TomTom 6 with my Wizard. Works like a charm. No problems.
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I'm using the Holux GPSlim 236 as well. I think i read that it can be hard wired and has the logic built in. I recommend it. No problems with mine whatsoever.
I picked it up on ebay for about $75 and it included the asskorn vent mount that I use on my desk as a stand...it works perfect.
GPSSlim 236
it is simply flawless.
GPS
I couldn't get my GPS Garmin 10 to work with my MDA (TMO) but after the upgrade to 2.26 I was able to turn on the GPS control icon in settings/system. You need to edit the registry (I got a copy of Kilmist) and in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
delete the "redirect" key (I have no keys in GPS Settings).
This turns on the GPS icon.
I do find it a bit of a pain to connect, but that's because the MDA doesn't have the "Connect?" choice for devices. My older IPAQ 6315 and my cell phone allow you pick a device, then say connect. I find a lot of devices are tougher to connect via B/T than they should be..I don't know how to get around it. Why they couldn't just have a "Connect This Device?" option is beyond me.
I have had 2 Holux236 units that the bluetooth just stoped working on, The light wouldn't even come on. I am thinking about trying an i-blue.
im using the i-blue 737 and very happy with it.
i had some problems with the wm5 gps multi-plexer .. and trying to use telenav + windows live at the same time. so i havent been doing that lately... now that i have a fresh install with a molski rom (my old tmobile rom install was a bit buggy for some reason.... i think it was the chinese ebay sd card i had in there before i got this sandisk ultra II mobile when i did my molski reload)
but , so far so good .. the 737 seems to be very nice
cheap..32 channel (supposedly)...good power...it seems that the 737 (MTK chipset) or any SIRF III chipset module is the way to go.... with the SIRF III being the more standard choice.
i like the telenav..its ok.. its cool that there is no real local install... i do hate the way that the UI seems to 'take over' since i cant use my software kbd if i want to put something in quickly without sliding it open to landscape... other than that its just fine.. but the monthly rate seems a bit annoying.
also they did not offer a t-mobile version..so i signed up saying i had cingular.. downloaded the wm5 install they had for cingular.... installed that client.. and went to the telenav website and changed my profile to say i had a blackberry on t-mobile...works fine.
i think im going to be giving tomtom and iguidance a shot... when i was doing some research they seemed to be the 2 leaders...telenav is ok...but again..$10/mo gets old.
so far i have tried tomtom and iguidance and i like iguidance v3.0 the best. I have a HoluxGPSlim SiRF III bluetooth GPS receiver and its the best combo i can find so far. The only problem is that it can be buggy at times. The gps is fine, but the iguidance is kind of buggy. If you don't enter a destination right after opening the program and then try to press Menu, it pulls up a bar at the bottom for "file, tools, view, etc" and the map freezes. BUT, that is the only grip i have with iGuidance. When i hit a traffic jam i just close out iGuidance and pull up Map4PDA and connect my gps and zoom out to see where it picks back up and then jump off the freeway and take city streets till I'm back in the green and then jump back on.( Map4PDA isn't voice promted, but it does have up-to-date traffic and that is the perfect combo for me.) Wish there was a program that did both and didn't have any bugs. (Bugs have been the same since I owned a stock 8125 and gone through EVERY ROM on this site.) But so far, the new 3.3 V2 rom is the best working, and fastest to boot!
GPS
I use tomtom 6 navigator software with north america maps on a 2gb and Pharos gps reciever w/ the bluetooth adaptor. tomtom seems to be the best navi progi for me
The Holux Gpslim 236 has a proper on/off switch which allows you to hide the unit in your car somewhere and leave it powered from the car battery or wire it in via the ignition sytem. Most other GPS units have a "soft" on/off button and will need to be switched on manually, apart from the rickaline one which senses the car being started and stopped. Tomtom6 works flawlessly on my xda mini-s and cleans up after being unloaded (no memory leaks).
Regards
Riptos
Is there any freeware for Telenav on the Tilt
than paying $10 per month
like we did on the Mobi Tv & Xm Radio
SPECTEC GPS anyone?
Has enyone tried using the SPECTEC BlueTooth GPS RECEIVER 813 (Mini SD ). Seems to be a pretty good GPS device.
I am interested in buying it. thought I will ask of any experiences.
Upinder
US TMO G3 with
ROM Version 10.1.0.811 WWE
Radio Version 2.25.11
Protocol Versio 4.1.13.12
SINGH Mobile 6 ROM
bt gps
I just got a globalsat bt gps recr for Christmas and it has been great. mine is g33 for around $50 w/ a vent or sticky mount from buygpsnow.com
It has worked pretty well with Delorme Street Atlas plus 2008.
I noticed this item for sale and was suprised because I was under the impression that it was determined that GPS didn't work on the Hermes due to technical limitations even when using a Trinity radio. Go figure.
http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html
pof has been alreayd pmed about this yesturday. waiting for a reply from him to see if he is willing to buy to see if it'll work. if you read more closely you would find the gps is missing the antenna and it requires lost of work to get one in there. this might be able to go in where u put a gsm antenna but lets wait for pof to see what he says.
aha... thanks for the update.
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I noticed this item for sale and was suprised because I was under the impression that it was determined that GPS didn't work on the Hermes due to technical limitations even when using a Trinity radio. Go figure.
http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html
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Would be excellent although the Hermes GPS is not Sirf III....
Anyone tried this one?
got pm from pof. the antenna will only help bluetooth gps and not the internal gps. oh well. thanx to pof for saving us the trouble of buying then finding it wont work.
damn man, i bought that antenna as soon as i saw it up!! soooo... like..... theres nothing i can do with this??
ok, it doesnt seem to work.
but it has to help the internal gps, the way it seems SHOULD function wouldnt make sense to help the bluetooth gps. ive seen many other cable GPS like this one on the internet. anyone else buy this?
I'm not sure I follow the function of the antenna....if it is just helping the bluetooth gps, is it then more of a bluetooth antenna, or does it just do nothing for the 8525?
I thought the bluetooth gps was its own antenna, otherwise what would the purpose of it be? Thanks!
I know this sounds sketchy... I read a post a while back about this port where you can attach antenna. A person working with the GPS project for the Hermes TyTN device discovered this port and connected a different model of antenna from Radio Shack. He went on stating that this port is for GPS. NOT Bluetooth When he connected the other style antenna he noticed both his reception (data,voice) increased along with the number of satellites he could acquire.
This is in one of the threads realated to the GPS. He has pictures and stuff too.
I stand corrected.. This was not found in the development thread of GPS with the HTC TyTN device.. This was in a thread where the person took apart their device and showed different pictures of the ""guts"" I'm trying to find the link for the thread now..
any updates on if this worked or not?
I do remember reading somewhere about how people were trying to physically build in a small GPS device into there 8525.
Although nothing about this antena though.
Makes me wonder if there is an actual built in GPS reciever inside the phone.
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Makes me wonder if there is an actual built in GPS reciever inside the phone.
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No but I think *some* of the hardware necessary is present. Why not just use a bloutooth GPS rather than having one tethered?
if anyone could post an update it would be appreciated...
what i have learned is that the gps antenna posted on cnn.cn is a type that is supposed to amplify and intensify the signal for your bluetooth gps... but this still confuses me. im guessing it boosts the signal for that the bluetooth attempts to pick up, but why am i plugging it into my 8525 then??
i hope there is some sort of use for this paper weight... besides the paper weight.
Theres no way that thing would fit inside a hermes is there?? It looks huge.. the kind of antenna youd need in a hermes is a tiny one shaped to fit into the top of the phone...
That anteanna is simply that.. a gps external antenna.. theres thousands of those available..
you can use it on a gps navigation system with an antenna connector in order to position the antenna for better reception.. like if you have a coated windscreen that gps cant get through you can use that lead round to the sunroof or back window to allow it to gwet signal while still having the gps unit under the windscreen where you can see it..
That thing is a standard GPS antenna.. the one needed would be a tiny thing.. with no wire and a whole load of soldering and work to fit it... it will probably never happen.. certainly not with something off the shelf like that id imagine. (you could maybe strip that down and get at the actual antenna inside.. but i highly doubt it would a)be small enough, b)fit, c) work afterwards or d) be in any way easy enough to acheive.
From the pictures on the site it looks like that thing plugs into the external antenna socket on the hermes.. but that wont give you gps.
It might improve signal quality in the car though..as it will probably work in some way as a GSM antenna.
(Have you tried plugging it in under the litttle rubber cap on the back of the phone as shown and seeing what happens - it may of course blow up the phone since it ISNT designed to go in this hole!)
Bluetooth gps is a lot better...becuase it is wireless...I have the holux 240 (smallest on the market)...and it can pick up signal inside my house
The GPS was investigated already for the TyTn, it will never work. The chip has the GPS capability however, there are many pins tied to ground. It would take major modification to attempt to use the internal GPS.
Use bluetooth like Holux, forget plugging anything into the rear antenna port. You have been warned!
so what is the deal? are you telling me that if i buy this external antenna http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html a gps application will not work? if not how can i get navigation on my device?
explain to others as it was explained unto you!
lodownlv said:
so what is the deal? are you telling me that if i buy this external antenna http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html a gps application will not work? if not how can i get navigation on my device?
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if you read carefully, you will finally understand that not having it is not going to deny your hermes a gps app.
External= the outside; outer surface; exterior.
antenna=a conductor by which electromagnetic waves are sent out or received, consisting commonly of a wire or set of wires
therefore external antenna mean outside the unit,
gps application = software for use inside the unit
Options therefore:
1. TyTN + INTERNAL BT antenna + BT gps receiver + gps app = works fine
2. TyTN + INTERNAL BT antenna + BT gps receiver + gps app + External antenna(plugged into little hole on back of TyTn not your butt = works much better (because of better reception).
Therefore, unless you install TOMTOM 6 on your pc and expect it to work on your PPC thats the only way it wont work.
Even easier to understand is this:
Imagine you are in your car and you are driving you want to listen to music(find a route) on the radio(your TyTn). Its easy to find your favorite station(gps sat) as your radio(TyTN) already has an
External antenna if you were to unplug the external antenna then you would only be able to pick up a few stations but the radio would still work.
and to the question of getting navigation on your device, you would a) have to install a gps mapping software(TOMTOM navigator comes to mind) b) have a wired or unwired gps RECEIVER. that is all.
Hope i explained it good enough.
FYI I'm using TomTom navigator 6 and Qstars 32 channel bluetooth receiver on my Hermes and it works just fine, and i dont have an external antenna.
If you need any more help feel free to pm me.
Cheers.
1. TyTN + INTERNAL BT antenna + BT gps receiver + gps app = works fine
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Correct.
2. TyTN + INTERNAL BT antenna + BT gps receiver + gps app + External antenna(plugged into little hole on back of TyTn not your butt = works much better (because of better reception).
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Not quite correct. For the external antenna to improve GPS reception it would need to be plugged into the GPS receiver - not the phone. Plugging it into the phone will be a complete waste of time because the phone does not 'do' GPS. Wired GPS receivers can't be used with the Hermes - it has to be Bluetooth.
what would be a good GPS for the 8125?
Pretty much any unit with a Sirf III chipset will work very well with the Wizard. www.buygpsnow.com and www.semsons.com offer hardware/software bundles that can save you some $$$.
Check http://geeks.com/ they got good deals on gps adapters if you want to save $$
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Pretty much any unit with a Sirf III chipset will work very well with the Wizard. www.buygpsnow.com and www.semsons.com offer hardware/software bundles that can save you some $$$.
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Any idea if the Garmin GPS 10 has this chipset?
Navi GT-11 is a model of some note since it is water resistance. But is it wizard resistant?
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Using a Holux M1000 with no complaints.
VERY fast startup/warm up time. Ive got it under the front seat of the car and usually receive 8-10 sats.
Picked it up on fleaBay for $20-30 (if I remember). ;-)
Try Beeline GPS its pretty cool for nav stuff.
Both Googlemaps and MSlive search work fine.
My Holux M1200 very tiny and powerful!
Hi,
The RoyalTek RBT-1000 GPS Receiver is very good. It's a bluetooth device. i use it with iGO my way 2006 plus.
http://www.royaltek.com/index.php/content/view/99/81/
Tip: ebay ca. 40€
The Garmin GPS 10 will work with the MDA but you need to go into the registry and turn on the GPS icon so you can select which port it uses. There's threads that tell you how to do this. I had to do that.
I don't know what the internal chip is, but the GPS 10 uses up to 12 sats and usually locates really quickly. I even stuck it on the roof of the WhiteHorse Pass Train in Alaska and it worked perfectly all the way up.
I got the GPS 10 originally to use with the IPAQ 6315 (which had better B/T support by far and didn't need the GPS icon) and it was fine (except the 6315 is a POS that crashes all the time--MDA is far better).
I couldn't connect it to the MDA until I updated the firmware from T-Mobile and then modified the registry to reveal the hidden GPS icon--it's there, but T-Mo blocks it.
Once you figure it out (it's a little byzantine) the GPS 10 works great with the MDA. Once you figure out the correct steps.