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Ohhh, you brave souls... haha
I was in the o2 shop this lunch having a play with their live unit (well, except it had no SIM or web connectivity. for this type of phone that's pretty limiting!)
some questions i was unable to get help with, i am hoping you have more experience of, before i consider the device further:
1. SMS display. i much prefer the look of iPhone's SMS "dual conversations" - its very clear which side of the chat is which and generally more friendly and usable. can the x10's change to this type of layout? rather than listing each reply above or below each other. found no options in the main settings area from the home screen (not sure if the context-specific settings under messaging is any different...?)
2. mac compatability. is this possible? can it sync properly with itunes? does it use a 3rd party app to do so? could this be "culled", ala blackberry/palm syncing with itunes? does the x10 appear as a mounted usb volume? (in this way, i could use applescript to manage the library - horrible, but it might work). someone with actual experience here with a mac would allay my fears, rather than commenting it might be possible (sorry if that seems abrupt in advance...)
3. other syncing needs. i guess most other aspects for sync'ing are removed/negated with an android handset - are we as users supposed to follow the "cloud computing" google-masterplan? do others sync with desktops and for what purpose?
4. browser/app zooming. the device doesnt have multi-touch (plenty covered on this, and other forums!) but, the iPhone has other methods of navigating around the browser and apps. i.e. double tapping a block of text, which i would consider a single fingered gesture. as the test unit i was playing had no web connectivity i couldnt test it out - can someone comment?
here's hoping for advantageous answers
jingo_man
1. use Handcent SMS , can make it look 100% like iPhone sms
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1. SMS display. i much prefer the look of iPhone's SMS "dual conversations" - its very clear which side of the chat is which and generally more friendly and usable. can the x10's change to this type of layout? rather than listing each reply above or below each other. found no options in the main settings area from the home screen (not sure if the context-specific settings under messaging is any different...?)
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3. other syncing needs. i guess most other aspects for sync'ing are removed/negated with an android handset - are we as users supposed to follow the "cloud computing" google-masterplan? do others sync with desktops and for what purpose?
4. browser/app zooming. the device doesnt have multi-touch (plenty covered on this, and other forums!) but, the iPhone has other methods of navigating around the browser and apps. i.e. double tapping a block of text, which i would consider a single fingered gesture. as the test unit i was playing had no web connectivity i couldnt test it out - can someone comment?....
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1. Well, probably the handcent sms thingy, never tried it tho.
or you could go into contacts and find the contact there. When you go there the sms messages are listed in a simmular way as on the iPhone.
You on the right hand side
and you friend on the left..
3. I have just used the Cloud sync method to be honest, haven't really bothered to do it in any other way. But there is probably a way to do it.
4. The zooming is no problem to be honest, the double-tap to zoom thing works good enough. So I have to say that I kinda like it Even tho the multi-touch zoom was handy every now and then..
1. handcent works fine on this phone, and has customisable colours and themes.
2. can't comment on mac, but it is APPARENTLY possible to sync with itunes for the PC through iTunes Agent. I know this won't help you but it might help someone else reading this later.
3. cloud seems to be the way forward, and it works great on the x10. when you first plug it in to the usb though you get the option to install some sony ericsson syncing software, which is the same as i used for my c902 to transfer all my contacts to gmail for this phone. it is pretty simple to use.
4. the default zoom on the android is nice to use. browsers like dolphin (available from the market) come with their own zoom, but i disabled this cos the x10 seems to handle it nicely natively.
hope that helps
1. handsent sms. hmmmm... that does look more along the lines that i was thinking for layout/design. but i'm guessing this wont play nice with the timescape app, which seems pretty central.
i thought i went into the individual contact at one point, and it had the same appearance as when displayed under the general. i may make a return visit to the store to check that out...
i dont think i would mind using separately bought apps, but 1 of the biggest selling points seems to be the timescape so not sure i'd want to miss out on using it. though might change once i have used it for a while...
2. here's hoping eventually a mac user stumbles across this thread and is in a giving mood about their experience.
3. cloud syncing. suppose i can get onboard. not a massive issue not to rely on desktop software. i guess this means no-one really sync's it with a desktop then?]
4. glad of the double-tap zoom, atleast thats something. and its generally how i start to zoom on iPhone (in the browser) but how does this work in other apps? i.e. google maps cant double tap, as there's no "frame border" to sync the tap too...
this could a deal breaker for me, for this product. not a massive app user, but love web browsing on these devices when out-and-about. fine control offered by pinch/zoom far more refined and easier to use than the clunky zoom button, which just didnt seem to refresh fast enough to make it smooth...
maybe wont get onboard with all these bits until i consistently use the device, but not paying best part of £500 to find out!
please continue with more insights if you got 'em
2. mac compatability. is this possible? can it sync properly with itunes? does it use a 3rd party app to do so? could this be "culled", ala blackberry/palm syncing with itunes? does the x10 appear as a mounted usb volume? (in this way, i could use applescript to manage the library - horrible, but it might work). someone with actual experience here with a mac would allay my fears, rather than commenting it might be possible (sorry if that seems abrupt in advance...)
hi, Mac user here. Yes it mounts like a USB-HDD, and turns off in the phone. So you can transfere files, and then just unmount it. Transfered 7 GB of musik files, no problem.
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1. handsent sms. hmmmm... that does look more along the lines that i was thinking for layout/design. but i'm guessing this wont play nice with the timescape app, which seems pretty central.
i thought i went into the individual contact at one point, and it had the same appearance as when displayed under the general. i may make a return visit to the store to check that out...
i dont think i would mind using separately bought apps, but 1 of the biggest selling points seems to be the timescape so not sure i'd want to miss out on using it. though might change once i have used it for a while...
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even with that installed, the other messaging app still runs. handsent simply becomes the default. this means that when you load up timescape, it pulls in the messages from the standard messages app and works like a charm.
its a shame we cant just use the screen under the contact to send a message, that looks pretty good. click onto a contact, and scoll along at the bottom, past call log, onto messaging. that is a sweet screen.
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2. mac compatability. is this possible? can it sync properly with itunes? does it use a 3rd party app to do so? could this be "culled", ala blackberry/palm syncing with itunes? does the x10 appear as a mounted usb volume? (in this way, i could use applescript to manage the library - horrible, but it might work). someone with actual experience here with a mac would allay my fears, rather than commenting it might be possible (sorry if that seems abrupt in advance...)
3. other syncing needs. i guess most other aspects for sync'ing are removed/negated with an android handset - are we as users supposed to follow the "cloud computing" google-masterplan? do others sync with desktops and for what purpose?
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Use Salling Media Sync for iTunes sync http://www.salling.com/MediaSync/Mac/
Adress book and iCal has support for google sync, just enable it in the prefs and then everything syncs from google.
Just enter your gmail details.
the web browser on this thing is amazing really. renedering is smooth and pages launch instantly. i am very impressed with the web browser and with the added extra of using dolphin you be on to a winner. web browser on this is better than my N1
you mean like this...?
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Ohhh, you brave souls... haha
I was in the o2 shop this lunch having a play with their live unit (well, except it had no SIM or web connectivity. for this type of phone that's pretty limiting!)
some questions i was unable to get help with, i am hoping you have more experience of, before i consider the device further:
1. SMS display. i much prefer the look of iPhone's SMS "dual conversations" - its very clear which side of the chat is which and generally more friendly and usable. can the x10's change to this type of layout? rather than listing each reply above or below each other. found no options in the main settings area from the home screen (not sure if the context-specific settings under messaging is any different...?)
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here's hoping for advantageous answers
jingo_man
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I dont know about all the other questions, but did you mean something this? (Oh, crap! Where is my image? Ok, no image, dont know how to get one into this post)
I mean from it you see exactly who is on which side of the conversation
I like the predicitive text on the QWERTY keyboard, the eris feature where alternatives are shown for typed words, presenting an opportunity to choose the correct word. I enjoy using this when doing IMs in Google Talk, for example. This feature seems to be disabled in the default web browser on the eris, in 1.5 before, now in 2.1. The predictive text does not work in the search bar and it does not work in data entry fields in forms displayed by the browser, for example
Can anyone please tell me how one would enable this predictive text input in all apps on the phone? including the search bar for webkit and data entry on web forms?
<see last post for solution>
There is probably a good technical reason for this, like somehow the input method is not known to the web browser application. Perhaps the browser itself is not consulting a system table for availability of this input method at run time. Maybe it only happens at install time? Is there some manual change that could be made to enable this?
I think they disabled it in browser because a lot of websites have names that the predictive text obviously doesnt know and when you type fast and hit space quickly it auto selects words which Id imagine could be quite a pain in the ass online.
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I think they disabled it in browser because a lot of websites have names that the predictive text obviously doesnt know and when you type fast and hit space quickly it auto selects words which Id imagine could be quite a pain in the ass online.
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Thanks, You are right. I agree as to why they disabled it, but i think the way the feature works, it would really be more benefit to me than a hindrance.
1) Adding a mispelled word or one not in the dictionary is painless, editing this dictionary in the settings is easy too.
2) For activities like retyping stuff (like my email address) in data entry fields in the browser over & over; this would be much better with the ability to spell-check and remember words, especially when accuracy is critical.
I want predictive text in the browser. Why not a voice input option (like in the voice search applet) as well?
Can someone help at least give me the choice, I think these two input methods work very well.
Solved - 2.1 enhanced HTC keyboard, with voice too! - link
This pretty much gives you voice and predictive text wherever you want it without sacrificing anything:
nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/04/add-full-voice-to-text-to-htc-desire/
Followed the "HTC Sense Style Keyboard Instructions"
Instructions were for HTC desire but this worked fine on stock OTA 2.1 Eris, not rooted.
HTC_IME_lo_25.apk is the one that installed okay for me. I was half-asleep at the time and I think the other version did not install right, but you might want to try again.
Enjoy!
I find it crazy that SMS-Chat seems to be the only program for Windows Mobile that combines touch-friendly scrolling with threaded messaging.
I have a Palm Treo Pro and in order to see the text I type, I have to hit enter, and then backspace, and then I can start typing.
My question: Is there an alternative to this? I would use the regular sms built into WM6 but in order to scroll up and down, I have to use the tiny scroll bar on the right instead of being able to scroll by touching and pulling the middle of the screen.
Yes, I've googled the crap out of this so I come to you guys seeing if anyone has a diamond in the dirt.
Slide2Send forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602638
Thanks a lot for the link!
My only problem with this program is it doesn't show you the full content of each text from one person in a thread, and it doesn't default to the last text sent, it starts at the top which is a problem for a thread with many texts. I like it though, and hope to see improvements in the final versions.
MKH SMS (beta version and unstable)
Requirements: wm5+ compact framework 2+
it said "MKH software MKH SMS" cannot be installed. To try installing to a different location, chose a location" but it fails for SD card and phone memory. Weird.
Bump if anyone knows a good sms program. Like I said, it seems there is a problem on Palm Treo Pro's where the text won't show up when you type to a person unless you hit enter, then backspace. It's a hassle to do every time I send a text. Is there any program like this?
I hear certain ROMS will fix this issue but i'm not too savvy on roms..
Have you tried 'Pocket Contact Manager'
A bit old, but works ok on my 'old' device, displaying contacts but also SMS in a threaded way...
http://www.pocketcm.com/
And... ho... It's freeware !
I am looking for one myself for a long time and could found nothing.
1. SMS Chat - has lots of bugs, with an inbox with 50 or more messages, it freezes all the times. Contact with developer, no response
2. Slide2Send - slow as hell, missing lots of features
3. MKH SMS - very buggy, trying to scroll thru the messages is a pain
4. PocketCM - not really a replacement as you have to open a contact to see the list of SMS
5. Samsung SilverInBox - so buggy that even samsung have hidden it on the ROM
Can't find a good (or even resonable) message app that is finger friendly.
Tried another one, SMS at Hand, one of the ugliest interface (and confusing) I have ever seen.
If you wanna try MKH SMS, use this installer, it will work (removed Russian lang file, problem with cyrillic chars on the file name).
BTW, MKH SMS seem to be the only one still in development, you might try to contact the developer at http://www.mkh-soft.com/mkh-sms.aspx (it is in Russian).
Just a quick tip, if you tap on the top bar (middle), you will get some popups, like Settings (if you are at the folder list view), Delete SMS (if you are reading one), ...
I wish I knew coding. It's just kinda annoying I have to hit enter, then backspace just to see the text i'm typing in SMS-Chat. I love the program, but this is a pain. Even on their website help it suggests doing that...for a paid program.
no others?
I am using SMS at Hand. never can get it right. I do not want to be the default sms handler.
just like other sms program, no support for sending sms, u will only see the beautiful skin when scrolling the messages.
At the moment you click send new message it will go into the ugly ms default.
I am sticking with MKH SMS for now. Developer seen willing to move it forward, been talking with him about problems, suggestions and new translations. Version 1.2 seem very promissing.
Btw, it replaces the send sms with a graphical touch based one, you should try it.
there is 1.2?
Version 1.2 is still in development, but looks promising.
Hopefully easily skinnable as well!
Yes. The skin is a file with an extension of *.th, but that is only a zip file with some images a config (text) file. It comes with an iphone like skin. Would be nice to have at least two more, a manila and a diamond.
Translate is also easy, it is a text file (I have done one to Brazilian Portuguese).
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Version 1.2 is still in development, but looks promising.
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can we try it?
Just tried MKH on my HD Mini and it works just fine. also seems to take only half the memory of HTC Messages.
I have tried the search button have anything relatively close nor the right type of people already commenting them...further to that those that are key with understanding in this area have "not contactable by PM or email" in their profiles
Anyway, it seems that searching via Google shows that I am not the only one that is suffering from a related issue??
http://techie-buzz.com/how-to/how-to-open-db-files.html
Here too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521248
Read comments here....and we all know .db files are not unique to android alone, however the being able (or should I say not able) to assess the .db file in anything but android IS!
I have been running CM9/Oncecosmic and several other iterations of AOSP ICS early January. I keep a nearly all of my SMS/ Mms, its habit and I like to be able to access the information should it be needed. I have gone from Samsung -> to AOSP -> and now "trying" to go back again.
I have since migrated to SGSII (from SGS1) and have realised that the Mms .db will only open in an AOSP apk? If I attempt to open the .db file in Samsung it force closes. I am have been forced to run a hacked ROM now as I want to be back on Samsung based ROM, so I have gone about hacking the services.jar to bypass signature checking of apks just in order to run an AOSP app so that I can access and continue to use my Mms.
I don't want to wipe and refuse to believe that this is the only answer and that these isn't some kind of fix for it?
If someone is able to shed any light on this subject and as to why the Mms is corrupt when only viewed in anything but AOSP apps and/or a fix to be able to make this .db work again inside of Samsung I will happily send a donation. I donate to a lot of people on this forum, and am very appreciate of developers time as well as of this community as a whole.
Thanks,
James
Edit: Yes I have tried to clear caches and so forth, I am no n00b....save the condescending replies
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Surely someone out there understands the complexities of the Mms .db? I can't even view any content inside of it outside of Android its self. I am used to a PC and a keyboard and SQL DB and its just f*%#ed on a phone, not to mention totally different syntax to what I am used to. Does anyone know of any application that can view this data? Anything SQLite DB viewer on Source forge doesn’t work.
Jesus Freak where are you? I'm jokin, you probably get hit up about a million posts a day hense your set to not contactable. Anyone with as much knowledge that is willing to help feel free to respond.
Hi there, first time poster. I was wondering if someone could answer a few questions for me as it pertains to HTML5 and bringing up a Keyboard on Android (any version). I am a website developer and I have recently gotten into making my web applications mobile friendly, but I'm running into some snags when trying to get a certain keyboard to show up on Android / iOS and I'm wondering why it's not a bigger issue than I've seen so far.
Right now, if I add an <input> onto my page and add type="number", Android will pull up a keyboard that has numbers, etc. My problem is, the field I'm using isn't a "real floating point number", which all major browsers (except IE11) disallow. If I have an input set up to take a credit card number, I cannot allow the user to add dashes to make it easier to read while using type="number". However, I'd rather have the number keypad pop up by default as it really is all numbers, just not a calculatable (is that a word?) number.
I was wondering how difficult it would be for Android to add in something so when a field is clicked into, it would look for a specific vendor prefix to load a soft keyboard of the web developer's choosing? For instance:
Code:
<input type="text" data-soft-keyboard="number">
or
Code:
<input type="text" data-soft-keyboard="email">
which will give the device very clear and explicit instructions on which type of keyboard to display.
Sorry if this seems way out in left field, but I haven't found a decent solution to this issue. I went to Chrome forums to discuss and people said Chrome is 100% working off of the HTML5 spec. My personal opinion is that the HTML5 spec is wrong and why the hell are browsers doing validation against data in textboxes when I didn't specifically ask for it. However, I'm not really sure which direction to go at this point.
Any suggestions or opinions on the matter would be very nice, thank you