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Hi,
Thinking of buying a hero...
Is it possible to play full size movie AVIs (700Mb, etc) without lag, without having to resize them to a smaller resolution?
I find that resizing them is such a hassle. Currently using a touch dual, and when that was initially released I couldnt play it unless resized. Felt pretty ripped off. Only when upgrade to wm6.5 came out, I could play em. My old HTC Magician handled them much better.
Anyway... just wanted to ask if anyone has tried it... before I buy another dud phone.
Thanks!
Surely I can't be the only person who cares about watching movies on my phone while travelling?
I am sure you are not, but most people resize them.....
not tried anything on the hero yet, as i only got mine yesterday, and wasn't goping to buy any apps for the one i borrowed from work!
soggybiscuit said:
Is it possible to play full size movie AVIs (700Mb, etc)
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AVI is a container and not a codec.
Like all mobile devices (correct me if I'm wrong), there is no h264 b-frame support. Transcoding is your friend. How hard is it to transcode all movies in a directory; Thats just one command line away, geez.
yeah its just one more thing needed to do.
each to their own i guess... but I'm the sort of person who likes to take as little steps / effort as possible to do something. ie searching for a contact and calling them... i'd like to know that I can call them with a few keypresses and done... rather than having to search through a whole list of names and finding the contact.
Also, I prefer to be able to keep files in the format I got them so I can transfer them to another machine if I need to, rather than have a resized file that is only of use to the phone.
Not too sure about the terminology (h264 b frame support) you used, but I had no trouble playing full sized rips on my HTC Magician from 5 years ago. But had trouble with the HTC Nike initially until one year later when I upgraded it to WM6.1.
Anyway, if anyone has had the chance to try it out... let me know thanks =)
I have resized and played on the hero with no issues. I have seen that in a review that it could skip if not resized. I would resize to the heros resolution
It might work better if the aspect ratio is the same, but by the time you do that you could be resizing.
What player are you using?
Thanks
I had some issues getting it to recognise some media formats, but got around by using ImTOO encoding software and used one of the preset profiles which recoded and resized to 320x480.
use handbrake, its so easy.
Second for handbrake. As far as I can tell from my testing, it doesn't like DivX files. It does like MP4 files, with meridian especially. A two hour file took about 20 minutes to transcode straight to the Hero, on my not-particularly amazing tri-core 3ghz phenom. Quality was excellent.
I'd say queue up a list in Handbrake and leave it running overnight.
I used to use fullsize avi's on my diamond but as yet I've not found a decent player on android so I've made the switch to converting to avi's at a fairly large picture size (I forget the exact ratio) & it plays fine in the native video player.
A bit bummed that I have to convert them but it works I guess
Anyone heard if Corecodec are planning to make an android version of Coreplayer? If that's on it's way, it would likely be the first thing i buy from the market....!
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Anyone heard if Corecodec are planning to make an android version of Coreplayer? If that's on it's way, it would likely be the first thing i buy from the market....!
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I'm with you on that
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Anyone heard if Corecodec are planning to make an android version of Coreplayer? If that's on it's way, it would likely be the first thing i buy from the market....!
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Been looking into that too...
Seems like they intend to, but are hindered by things out of their control (lack of Qualcomm drivers from HTC). Sounds like the same issue with my HTC Touch Dual when I initially got it.
From their forum...
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1327&hilit=android
Hopefully wont be too long before
Hi everyone,
Been happily testing out my newly arrived sgs 2, everything working as they should...well, almost
Thing is, when I played some 1080p movies encoded with h.264, they played just fine, but I seem to never be able to jump through the movie, namely, the movie will only play from beginning to end, but no jumping in between...i think this is really weird, since it's working with all other movies with lower resolution... So I'd like to know if it's common, or only just me, and if the latter, how can I fix it. Thanks
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I can scroll/seek fine on 1080p video. Try another video player.
Likewise, seeking working fine for me.
I'm looking for advice on media players for the evo 3D - since I originally hoped it'd be a portable player to match the format compatibility of my HTPC. It looks like I was a little optimistic in that regard, primarily because I knew the chip was 1080P capable. My primary issue with blu-ray rips is that when using MoboPlayer and mVideoPlayer - I can usually get my 720P rips to play back video, but I lose the audio. I'm fairly certain that I'm using the unconverted blu-ray audio - and neither of these apps can handle the codec. Is there another app that can do this without having to convert?
I know how to convert the audio easily - but I was hoping for a drag and drop solution. I don't want to end up with large files for my HTPC and different ones for on-the-go use.
Besides that, 1080P videos would be hampered by Android's (or should I say FAT32's) inability to handle files above 4GB. I'd previously heard rumors that in the future Android would be able to able to access XFAT partitions and that might eliminate the file limitation - but I've heard nothing concrete. Anybody have any useful info on this topic?
I know that a certain amount of readers will ask why this is necessary in a portable device, but a lot of us look at these phones as a digital swiss army knife. To me, there's definitely the allure of potentially bringing just the phone and an HDMI cable to my girlfriend's house in order to share a bluray as opposed to bringing the bluray player, disc, cables, etc.
Well - the only partial solution I've found is the arcMedia media player. It supports a52 (AC3) audio, but unfortunately - the 720P video I threw at it played remarkably choppy. Totally unwatchable.
Doh - I guess I'm talking to myself. But in case someone else is reading this in hopes of a solution, I think I've figured out that MoboPlayer and one other media player I just found - can play the audio if I switch to software decoding. Unfortunately, if I do so - 720P video becomes unwatchable. HTC didn't give us surround sound codecs, which is disappointing.
The only possible solution or workaround would be if the video decoding could be handled separately from audio in one of these media players. But I'm not going to get my hopes up.
In the meantime, I guess I better get used to converting AC3 audio in my MKV's - and making sure none of my portable files are above 4 gigs.
Diceplayer!!!!!!!!!! Try it!!!!
DDiaz007 said:
Diceplayer!!!!!!!!!! Try it!!!!
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OK - I tried IMPlayer+ and Vitalplayer based on recommendations I found elsewhere and neither worked as I'd hoped. Diceplayer however, appears to have done the trick! It's a $5 app, but I'm going to try it for 3 days and test it out first. Thank you very much for the recommendation.
The dev who wrote that software claims the Galaxy S2 is capable of 1080P MKV playback with AC3 audio. I'm going to see if I can track down a similar sample under 4 gigs to test on the Evo 3D. As of now - 720P is working beautifully.
Now there's just two more things that I'm hoping will happen to make this the perfect mobile HD video player:
1) Android somehow allowing a format that accepts files above 4gigs.
2) Actually being able to output 1080P to an external screen via HDMI. I'm sure we'll be able to HDMI mirror the screen, but the file's resolution will be lost in that case. Hopefully Diceplayer or another app will enable HD out.
I'm not holding my breath for either, but I can hope.
Just a couple thoughts. I encode all my videos to .mp4, at their native resolution (1080p for bd, or eve res for dvds). Using a bitrate between 1500-2000 will get u under 2GB for an entire movie and maintain video quality to near original.
As much as I'd like 5.1 surround sound, that really only matters if u can output it via hdmi. In ur case I understand the desire bc u have other media players.
I agree, HTC/android should include support for 5.1 audio, and additionally I feel .Mkv support
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Thanks for the comments! I just figured I'd chime in because I tried a Conan the Barbarian Trailer that was a 1080P MKV with AC3 audio.
Unfortunately, it didn't play smooth even with Diceplayer. Every 3 seconds, there was a little stutter. Which was disappointing, but understandable. I wonder if the Galaxy S2 can really play it better?
Otherwise, the E3D might get to that capability by a little overclocking and/or improved software in the future.
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Thanks for the comments! I just figured I'd chime in because I tried a Conan the Barbarian Trailer that was a 1080P MKV with AC3 audio.
Unfortunately, it didn't play smooth even with Diceplayer. Every 3 seconds, there was a little stutter. Which was disappointing, but understandable. I wonder if the Galaxy S2 can really play it better?
Otherwise, the E3D might get to that capability by a little overclocking and/or improved software in the future.
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update your diceplayer 1.4.2
Try QQ Player..
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QQ player doesn't play the file well at all - it appears not to use any hardware acceleration.
Unfortunately - the Diceplayer Trial Update (1.4.2) doesn't appear to improve things.
Someone who'd overclocked his E3D to 1.5ghz tested this file and STILL found it lagging on Diceplayer. Which is very disappointing. If anyone's curious, this is the sample I'm talking about:
http://www.movie-list.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27232
I was just hoping to get 1080P AC3 MKV playback.
I was just told on another thread that this 1080P file may not play well - only because of the speed of my card. This user claims that his phone with a class 10 microsdhc plays the Conan clip without lag. Apparently my phone (with the stock class 4) must not be able to create enough of a buffer to make up for the memory card's speed. I've got a class 10 memory card arriving tomorrow - and I'll report back then.
This is potentially great news.
I'm not sure if the new memory card played a role - but the latest version of Diceplayer 1.4.4 plays that 1080P MKV with AC3 audio with NO lag on the Evo 3D. I'm pretty happy right now. The only thing I'm hoping for in the future is that somehow we can play files over 4gb so we can actually take advantage of the 1080P capability of this phone.
WOW
Really is all I can say if it only had surround sound then I would give it a 10 out of 10 but I will have to give it a 9.8. I used Pavtube Blu-ray Video Converter Ultimate to convert the Dark night and boy for 720p video its killer to be able to stream from my phone this quality. WOW But i used the One X profile and it out put 1280x720 i am sure i could get full hd later on but for a simple convert it it kills all other programs for the Evo Lte.
I really think its a great tool that if you used it the right way you could do about any thing. Yes its a little laggy but not by much when playing video it really does not see any of the lag at all. I really can not say more then WOW.
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WOW
Really is all I can say if it only had surround sound then I would give it a 10 out of 10 but I will have to give it a 9.8. I used Pavtube Blu-ray Video Converter Ultimate to convert the Dark night and boy for 720p video its killer to be able to stream from my phone this quality. WOW But i used the One X profile and it out put 1280x720 i am sure i could get full hd later on but for a simple convert it it kills all other programs for the Evo Lte.
I really think its a great tool that if you used it the right way you could do about any thing. Yes its a little laggy but not by much when playing video it really does not see any of the lag at all. I really can not say more then WOW.
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How are you connected to it? I don't have Wifi at home and was hoping I could use the HD LINK and my phones internet at the same time, But I get all kinds of errors, that make the Media Link useless.
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How are you connected to it? I don't have Wifi at home and was hoping I could use the HD LINK and my phones internet at the same time, But I get all kinds of errors, that make the Media Link useless.
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PM me and I'll buy it from you.
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PM me and I'll buy it from you.
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I might take you up on that, Depending on what HTC support says.
so far I love it also!
I'd love to be able to do other tasks (send sms, look up reviews on the imdb app and so forth) while watching the movie on TV. just like that demo I saw on YT of the One X over the MediaLikn HD
for a quick minute one time I was able to do this. stranegly enough I cannot not duplicate it...
anyhow, I did play a movie oncoded to 720p, 1500kbs, mp4 and it played nicely.
I'll try a better quality encode next time.
but, yh, love this thing! can't beat the no cables covenience
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so far I love it also!
I'd love to be able to do other tasks (send sms, look up reviews on the imdb app and so forth) while watching the movie on TV. just like that demo I saw on YT of the One X over the MediaLikn HD
for a quick minute one time I was able to do this. stranegly enough I cannot not duplicate it...
anyhow, I did play a movie oncoded to 720p, 1500kbs, mp4 and it played nicely.
I'll try a better quality encode next time.
but, yh, love this thing! can't beat the no cables covenience
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Most tasks, if you want them to stay on the tv, you have to three finger swipe up when on that screen, like the music app.
Tapatalked from my shiny new HTC Evo LTE
I love the media link, I have downloaded tv shows and it streams great, I use it with all kinds of players.
The only bug is that to get 3g and media link to work you have to edit ur build.prop to enable tether
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I wish these weren't so pricey. $60 is my price point...
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I just picked mine up today. It's okay...but I think I'm going to return it. $90 is a bit steep price wise and it lags a little too much for me. Plus Netflix plays on both the phone and the TV through this not just the TV so you have to leave your phone's screen on, which I dislike.
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I just picked mine up today. It's okay...but I think I'm going to return it. $90 is a bit steep price wise and it lags a little too much for me. Plus Netflix plays on both the phone and the TV through this not just the TV so you have to leave your phone's screen on, which I dislike.
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Im sure someone will create a MOD for this.
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I have been away form the android development for a while now as it didnt have the ability to view movies in it nor was there a tv-out. I was wondering if any of the more recent builds have addressed this? I am having a heck of a time finding it via thread search.
Nope, I don't think anyone got TV out working. There were always bigger fish to fry, and with the userbase not really clamoring for it... No dev ever worked on it.
All our code is open source, so anyone can pickup where we left off. I'd say the project is pretty much done tho.
Wait, the Rhodium has TV-Out hardware? I didn't even know it could do that in WinMo! That's... actually kinda cool, although with as dinky as its CPU is I'm not sure just how useful it would be anyway -- who wants to play a 240p YouTube video on a big TV?
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Wait, the Rhodium has TV-Out hardware? I didn't even know it could do that in WinMo! That's... actually kinda cool, although with as dinky as its CPU is I'm not sure just how useful it would be anyway -- who wants to play a 240p YouTube video on a big TV?
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It requires an additional dongle, which should have been provided if you got the phone brand new.
I've never used it - I can't imagine videos are a pleasant thing. Perhaps a presentation or pic slideshow would be cool tho.
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It requires an additional dongle, which should have been provided if you got the phone brand new.
I've never used it - I can't imagine videos are a pleasant thing. Perhaps a presentation or pic slideshow would be cool tho.
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I have used it and it is actually quite awesome! I have watched full size divx movies using TCPMP/Core both at home on 46" HD (just to test it) and at various hotels/resorts (cause I always have some new movies ready anytime I fly) and the quality is perfect! To my eye the rhods screen and the attached monitor are pixel for pixel identical. HQ youtube looks fantastic, the same as my HTPC playing youtube in 480p. Haven't tried powerpoint yet but the picture slideshow is kinda cool too.
This is just another reason that I love haret/SD builds from XDAndroid. This is a function that I do not use 99% of the time but it IS there when I need it. That and offline GPS are the 2 big ones that keep me attached to WM (and my BT ODBII scanner I guess, but I have a feeling I COULD get this rockin' in android...if I wanted to put in the time )
EDIT: LOL. ODBII = OBDII... Every damn time!! I blame Old Dirty Bastard
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I have used it and it is actually quite awesome! I have watched full size divx movies using TCPMP/Core both at home on 46" HD (just to test it) and at various hotels/resorts (cause I always have some new movies ready anytime I fly) and the quality is perfect! To my eye the rhods screen and the attached monitor are pixel for pixel identical. HQ youtube looks fantastic, the same as my HTPC playing youtube in 480p. Haven't tried powerpoint yet but the picture slideshow is kinda cool too.
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Pixel for pixel, gawd I hope not. 480x800 on an HD screen would probably look AWFUL.
Does it at least put it in a respectable aspect ratio...?
Really surprised anyone actually uses this, haha. I guess some dev can still pick it up? Has anyone even tried the TV Out in Android? Seriously doubt it works, just curious.
lol, yeah it outputs in VGA only. So you have to set your monitor either to have black bars on the sides or zoom(which is perfect for widescreen movies). I watch all my movies at home streaming using the divx web player so I am used to 480p on my HDTV(they may be a little smoother looking on the HTPC since its outputting 720p). These movies look pretty good to me(tho HD mkv changes everything). And free increases the resolution ten fold!!
Anyway, back on topic... I have never tried in GBX because I do not use an official cable for TV-Out and because of this I have to "trick" WM by changing the registry so that it will recognize my cable as a TV-Out and not just a headset as it senses automatically. It actually has to change the function of the pins of the mini usb and thus the headphone jack of the multifunction dongle. The sheer hackiness of the solution in WM tells me that there is no way in hell that it will work for me in android with my current hardware.
And, to be honest I don't really want it in android. Lets face it, without external power you could probably watch like one TV episode before the battery crapped out(okay, a bit of an exaggeration, I know, but you know what I mean).
EDIT: Even more off topic but I can't resist. I have ordered a usb OTG cable from hong kong for a buck and once I get it my next experiment will be trying to play a movie using TV-Out, off of an external hard drive, hopefully while on external power.
As long as there are still new things to try on my rhod I can put off getting a new phone... but I am running out fast!
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And, to be honest I don't really want it in android. Lets face it, without external power you could probably watch like one TV episode before the battery crapped out(okay, a bit of an exaggeration, I know, but you know what I mean).
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Either you haven't tried OMGB, or you're just not aware...
But that build gets as good if not better battery life than WinMo. Thanks to ACL's amazing work reversing the batt driver for WinMo...
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Either you haven't tried OMGB, or you're just not aware...
But that build gets as good if not better battery life than WinMo. Thanks to ACL's amazing work reversing the batt driver for WinMo...
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As good as winmo eh (or even better no less)... That would be something...
Yes I am aware of it, but you are right, I haven't tried it yet. I do see a lot of good things about the battery life, but I am still too fond of WM to call it quits... i know, i know, probably time to "embrace change"!
I actually get great battery life from you guys GBX (I have hacked the crap out of it). I go easily all day and night doing everything and more than in WM. I love them both!
I actually have never tried to watch divx (or anything else for that matter) on android. Have you arrrghhh?[EDIT: or anyone else?] Any experience with watching local video files on the rhodium running any build? Do you need any app?
I am curious now?
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I have been away form the android development for a while now as it didnt have the ability to view movies in it nor was there a tv-out. I was wondering if any of the more recent builds have addressed this? I am having a heck of a time finding it via thread search.
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I can now answer half of your question: You definitely have the ability to watch movies on the rhod running android.
I have just installed MX player from the market and am about 20 mins into a 700mb divx movie on GBX0C with kernel 3.4. So far it is playing very well (much better than I expected, especially with no OC!).
MX installed no prob, then when I started it up it said something like "no codec installed. Install from market?" clicked yes, market comes up with Codec for MX Player (armv6), install that then play movie on card. Great!
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I can now answer half of your question: You definitely have the ability to watch movies on the rhod running android.
I have just installed MX player from the market and am about 20 mins into a 700mb divx movie on GBX0C with kernel 3.4. So far it is playing very well (much better than I expected, especially with no OC!).
MX installed no prob, then when I started it up it said something like "no codec installed. Install from market?" clicked yes, market comes up with Codec for MX Player (armv6), install that then play movie on card. Great!
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i can tell you that OMGB rom does not have a tv-out or at least my phone dont recognize the tv-out cable and flat screen to "see" my phone either. i have one of those tv-out HTC Multimedia ACT100 TV Out Cable for HTC Fuze/Touch Pro cables. works in winmo not on android. but i havent tried any special apps either.
speaking on the quality of the output video in Winmo when put on a TV. It has a lot to do with the file your playing obviously. I carry the same sentiment previously mentioned the RCA out and the offline GPS (tomtom) are what keeps me attached to my Phone.
I use the TV out nearly every day I hook it up to the Gym TV to do insanity or P90X, and listen to the audio via BT headset (I already looks like a fool jumping around I don't need to cause more displeasure on people making them endure Tony Horton or Shawn T). The video shows up not perfect, but I have super compressed files, its good enough to tell what the exercise is and how much time is left)
This setup would be perfect If core player (.mp4 files) would accept AVRCP inputs on the rhodium but that is where my perfect setup falls short. I suppose rather then viewing new phones I could purchase a 32gb sd card and just get different file formats of the videos.
Thank you all for the input, ill live with what i have for now, great work to all the devs as far as they took this project.
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I actually have never tried to watch divx (or anything else for that matter) on android. Have you arrrghhh?[EDIT: or anyone else?] Any experience with watching local video files on the rhodium running any build? Do you need any app?
I am curious now?
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I have tried four free divx players on the Google Play Market on my Rhodium running GB0X. The best performance I found was with Seaman Player, I think that is what it was. MX was sketchy for me, and none of them play as sharply as watching the same files in CorePlayer in WinMo.
To keep from getting to far OT, I have the dongle and it works great in WinMo, but given the playback performance on the built-in screen my hopes are not high that we would have good results on TV-out.