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I see increasing posts for selling new or used XDA devices. This could be an interesting new forum.
Dear XDA developers ... can you creat new forum for XDA, accessories and spare parts tradings. This would be like a small specialized E-Bay. I would suggest it should be for only offers while the bids can be through private e-mails.
To make it in a democratic way, I added a simple poll 8)
I will be waiting
Yes, but...
It's not a bad idea...
One thing though. What can we do here to make sure it's safe to sell/buy here...
I know ebay (or at least ebays in some countries) requires the seller to register with credit card info and this ensures a certain level "trust" from the seller. If something goes wrong, ebay can follow that up.
since i'm from Romania probably only few of them will sell directly to me.
one method is to use bidpay.com(which implies no risk from the seller but maximum risk on the buyer) or paypal (but for example romania is not accepted in the system).
i've bought using my cc on ebay,bidpay,amazon, various online stores and had no problem.
it can be only an offer zone and the transactions to be processed on ebay.com (probably this can be it)
decebal
simple fact it wont work simply coz theres too many tossers who have internet acess who will rip people off like god knows what.
Dear All ..
Thanks to whoever showed interest . One thing to clarify tho, I didn't mean it to be REALLY like eBay which requires lots of logistics and security, but I just saw many posts across many forums here about selling/buying, and passed my mind the idea of having this separate forum (especially for spare parts and broken devices which most propably won't be found on eBay alikes).
The idea is to get the people connected to each others and let them to decide how to exchange items. No responsibility or laiability should be put on this site (XDA-developers.com).
Anyway, it's nice to see this spirit and discussions ... keep it
fluffcat1,
I told you I would run into you again...
Anyone looking to buy parts for your phone DONT deal with Richard...
([email protected])
We conducted a paypal transaction on May 2... and after 1.5 months and some nasty emails I am out of 25GBP... and still have NOT received my camera and back case as promised in the transaction....
I submitted a complaint on Paypal... He emailed me saying that he was upset with me and that if I closed the case he would ship the items... so I did and he did NOt ship anything...
Very clever on his part... since now I can not go back to Paypal and open the claim again...
Note to anyone buying using paypal... If you have a complaint open... DO NOT close it until you are completely satisfied... with the outcome...
Once you close a case you can not open it...
Any Way... just wanted to warn everyone... looking to buy parts for their phones... Richard([email protected]) is a CROOK.
Concep86
And dangerous too :?: :twisted: :evil:
I've replied to all your messages so far and the package was sent insured so as per my last email I can send the proof of postage on to you as according to the royalmail it was succesfully handed to USPS. You are the one who takes weeks and in one case over a month to reply to emails....
The only nasty email I received was your filing the paypal complaint within 7 days of payment as I didn't reply to your email within the 2 days you requested. As it put the funds on hold of course I'd want them releasing before postage! And I don't post international items every day, I wait until I have a few to send as it's a special trip to the P.O to send them rather than going in my normal post collection, as well as filling out customs paperwork and insurance.
My ebay feedback of 1700+ should speak for itself. I'm really going to try and rip someone off over £25 with a turnover of £6k p/m.....
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=fluffcat1&ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS
THINGS DO GO MISSING. In the UK I loose approx 3% of items sent but always manage to claim back from the royalmail as they are INSURED like all my items are. Sometimes it takes 3 or 4 weeks, sometimes longer, but the do pay up. Minus postage costs though :-(
I post approx 50 items per week! I loose about 2! That sort of thing happens, and I'm actually better statistically for postage losses than the UK as a whole.
Now, if you want to do this in public, fine, I'll post the ref here and you can contact USPS on your own, or you can apologize and I'll look into claiming from this end and send you another set.
Lots of people here have bought from me and received their goods fine. Be careful how you slander me in a public forum where posting IP addresses are logged for all users...
Richard
ok... then this is a big misunderstanding....
I still have NOT recevied my items... nor an email from you as to what is happening...
I do not know you other than through our correspondence which has been very one sided...
So what am i to think...
history...on emails...
3/24 inquired into camera and back case...
4/28 apologized for not following up on purchase... as I stated I was called away... shortly after the initial inquiry.
4/28 made payment in error... 25 Us vs 25 GBP... waited for initial payment to be credited back to my account... which you denied payment on... thnak you
5/7 made correct payment via paypal... asked for email confirmation of date shipped with payment.
5/13 had not received a response on my email... so I emailed asking for an update.
5/16 received nasty email in ref to me taking weeks to respond... and expecting you to respond immediatley. asking to cancel complaint
5/17 responding to your email... I cancelled the paypal complaint... and asked politely for an update....
5/31 still had not received an update... so I emaile dasking for an update
6/2 still nothing.. so again i asked politellty for an update...
6/15 posted on this forum
I have not received anything.... Please provide me an update... at
concep86 @ yahoo .com
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Interesting
You forgot the email complaint you made to paypal just 6 days after sending the correct payment, my response via paypal to that offering a refund, and the several emails I subsequently sent that you replied to - I have emailed many times to [email protected] and have the server logs from exchange 2003 to prove it.
From you own logs you have given it just over 3 weeks to arrive to the US. Surface post ain't that quick you know and you were too cheap to pay for a courier service so what do you expect?
Check your spam filter etc.
Edit - you forgot to mention the reason for my 'long response' ( 9 days!) after payment was you had paid to my *old* email address from when you had first contacted me rather than my current address that I was replying from at the time and the one you so kindly plastered all over this group for the spam bots to find. Thanks. 2 can play at that game. Looks like you're gonna be on your own claiming from USPS.
Richard
We could go back and forth... on this...
I did not forget to include the complaint as i was detailing just the emails that went back and forth between us.
I did mention the complaint in the emails...
However, I did apologize to you for submitting a complaint on the 15th and did not reveive a response...
I am the one putting up the cash for my litlle item... and 25GBP although a small amount is still hard earned.
and i have beenn burned on ebay before.... so sorry if i require a little hand holding...
Where do we go from here... sounds like we just had some bad communication issues to resolve.. we are both honest hard working gents...
lets get past this please... I am willing to make a public apology on this forum... once I receive my items...
as i have stated previously in my emails... i am truly sorry for the misunderstanding....
Thanks...
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concep86
concep86 said:
fluffcat1,
I told you I would run into you again...
Anyone looking to buy parts for your phone DONT deal with Richard...
(email removed)
We conducted a paypal transaction on May 2... and after 1.5 months and some nasty emails I am out of 25GBP... and still have NOT received my camera and back case as promised in the transaction....
I submitted a complaint on Paypal... He emailed me saying that he was upset with me and that if I closed the case he would ship the items... so I did and he did NOt ship anything...
Very clever on his part... since now I can not go back to Paypal and open the claim again...
Note to anyone buying using paypal... If you have a complaint open... DO NOT close it until you are completely satisfied... with the outcome...
Once you close a case you can not open it...
Any Way... just wanted to warn everyone... looking to buy parts for their phones... Richard(email removed) is a CROOK.
Concep86
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I have ordered items from fluffcat1 without problems. He kept in touch with me and gave me pointers on installing a camera on my SX 66.
Would definately buy from again.
I've ordered from Fluffcat as well. Always very good service, fast and extremely helpful. Just look at his EBay feedback! Surely this could have been sorted out in private.
I'll also go with supporting Fluffycat
Fast and good service for a replacement keypad circuit board for my typhoon and even gave me some money back for the damaged part, sent by paypal only days after I sent it back to him
I'll also go with supporting Fluffycat
Fast and good service for a replacement keypad circuit board for my typhoon and even gave me some money back for the damaged part, sent by paypal only days after I sent it back to him
well it definitely appears that this was just a case of bad communication that went the worse possible way...
i simply wanted an update on the product, when it would ship, after 7 emails and more than 30 days, i still did not have an update.
as for settling this in private ...
What do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do...
concep86
concep86 said:
well it definitely appears that this was just a case of bad communication that went the worse possible way...
i simply wanted an update on the product, when it would ship, after 7 emails and more than 30 days, i still did not have an update.
as for settling this in private ...
What do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do...
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In the future you should refrain from calling someone a crook unless all of your bases are covered. Just some advice.
I have not been proven a liar...
fluffcat1 can say what he likes... but I have not received my items nor have I ever received an email telling me that the item was shipped...
what do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do... do you think I was simply stalking... **** I just wanted to know if he had shipped the items...
So for the moment, all my bases are covered....
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concep86 said:
well it definitely appears that this was just a case of bad communication that went the worse possible way...
i simply wanted an update on the product, when it would ship, after 7 emails and more than 30 days, i still did not have an update.
as for settling this in private ...
What do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do...
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In the future you should refrain from calling someone a crook unless all of your bases are covered. Just some advice.
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nswafford said:
concep86 said:
well it definitely appears that this was just a case of bad communication that went the worse possible way...
i simply wanted an update on the product, when it would ship, after 7 emails and more than 30 days, i still did not have an update.
as for settling this in private ...
What do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do...
concep86
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In the future you should refrain from calling someone a crook unless all of your bases are covered. Just some advice.
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I agree.
It may be an idea to edit your first post to have a less litigious subject. Something along the lines of "Delivery from fluffcat delayed, has anyone else had similar problems?".
And why have you put his email back into your posts. That really does seem childish to me.
concep86 said:
I have not been proven a liar...
fluffcat1 can say what he likes... but I have not received my items nor have I ever received an email telling me that the item was shipped...
what do you think the 7 emails were an attempt to do... do you think I was simply stalking... **** I just wanted to know if he had shipped the items...
So for the moment, all my bases are covered....
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No, they are not. Lets see what you didn't do....
1: You didn't try using an alternative email address to email me incase either you or I was experienceing server issues. The free providors ( esp. yahoo and hotmail) randomly take to blocking domains if they are recently registered and / or not in their latest DNS list. The domain of the email you so kindly re-plastered over this thread was recently registered. This is one of the reasons I have moved away from a 'free' providor.
2: You didn't try contacting me via my previous email address where we were able to communicate albeit with long gaps for your replies.
3: You didn't try pm'ing me via this site.
4: You didn't try re-contacting me via ebay as first contact had been originally made.
Now, I don't know there is an issue unless I get told - I don't sit at a computer typing in tracking numbers all day checking if stuff has been delivered. All items are sent insured as I previously stated.
You don't want this sorting out it seems - you are just out to stir....with a different attitude on your part I would have been glad to handle the claim and send out a replacement camera module ( I have no free rear covers left :-( as I do when domestic items get lost / mislaid as the wait can be annoying for the claim to be processed.
I have not yet had to claim via the international process but domestic claims take upto 4 weeks ( and they pay the claim as stamps :roll: ) - so I think you need to contact USPS and find out their procedure as I am unwilling to help any further after your comments in this thread and petty re-insertion of my email into it for the spammers to harvest. (As I have admin status over my new domain I'll just set up another mailbox if it gets too much - thanks.)
Your ref is RI763769010GB. Good luck!
Richard
p.s thanks everyone else for the cheer squad! It's usually only the bad experiences people shout about. I appreciate it.
both of you are Guilty of the same thing
Cant we all get along ? Both of you made mistakes and have shown in this forum you are less than civized men. You are but children acting as they do. Both of you should forget the past and try to come to a compromise. As humans we all make mistakes and act on emotions and dont realize that airing your dirty laundry in public without looking at the big picture you show a side of yourselves that you should be embarrassed of. Now that you both should feel ashamed of yourselves(if you dont you should), lets come together and fix the problem. Be the men your parents raised you to be!!!
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airing your dirty laundry in public without looking at the big picture you show a side of yourselves that you should be embarrassed of. Now that you both should feel ashamed of yourselves(if you dont you should)
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Well thanks for lumping me in here but I didn't start it posting here in this thread...just defending myself against points incorrectly made that I was a crook which I am not. Someone calls you a crook in a public forum would you turn the other cheek and be the 'bigger man'? I think not. You would defend yourself, as I have done.
Richard
Hi fluffcat1
I am also an eBay seller and read this thread with interest. I can sympathize with your situation especially when getting a Paypal chargeback in such a short time. However, there are some flaws in your argument.
You are a UK registered seller. As such you are responsible for the delivery of the item. It isn't good enough to say "you pissed me off, sort it out yourself" or "it is with USPS, ask them" (not exactly what you said, I know). The purchasers contract with you was for delivery of the item to him, not to USPS. In the UK you would wind up in small claims and rightly so. You are coming across as being quite unprofessional and taking advantage of the fact the purchaser is US based. You also quote some interesting statistics. I do not believe your claim that loosing 2 in 50 is better than the UK national average. The actual statistics are 0.07% - see the following news item http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3681547.stm for my references.
As I already stated I am an EBay seller too. However, a loss rate of 2 in 50 would be real trouble for us. We ship on average 120 items a day and that would mean we would lose about 5 a day. We don’t lose that many a month!
As for "with a different attitude on your part I would have been glad to handle the claim and send out a replacement camera module", that shouldn't be your choice, and in the UK it wouldn't be. You are responsible for that item and you have a duty to your customer to resolve it satisfactorily.
"Surface post ain't that quick you know and you were too cheap to pay for a courier service", eh, what about Airmail. You quote international signed for on your auctions but you don't mention that only covers surface mail. The difference between the two is small, for example a 1kg Airmail to the US is £10.00 while surface is £8.30. Did you explain it would take up to 6 weeks for delivery?
“I have not yet had to claim via the international process but domestic claims take upto 4 weeks ( and they pay the claim as stamps )”. I must imagine the cheques them send me when I claim for loss! They have never sent me stamps.
I am curious how you know the item is with USPS as tracking number RI763769010GB is giving no details at all. I was under the impression an International Signed for number would give the date it was collected from you and where it is with regard to processing. See these numbers for an example – RI537451069GB and RI537451072GB.
David.
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Hi,
I purchased the TG01 in February and I have lost my temper with it because it's so horrible, but I know there are a few developers out there looking for a real device to work with, so I thought I'd sell it.
I'm looking for anything over £65, It's in good working order with a few scratches on the screen and it's generally in OK condition, but the speaker is quite quiet.
If you're interested please reply to this thread.
Thanks
PS, I will consider swapping phones if you want
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Hi,
I purchased the TG01 in February and I have lost my temper with it because it's so horrible, but I know there are a few developers out there looking for a real device to work with, so I thought I'd sell it.
I'm looking for anything over £65, It's in good working order with a few scratches on the screen and it's generally in OK condition, but the speaker is quite quiet.
If you're interested please reply to this thread.
Thanks
PS, I will consider swapping phones if you want
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Hold that thought, we might be able to buy it from you for the Android project if we can raise the money. £65 shouldnt be too difficult to raise!
Please dont sell it before speaking to us about it.
I'm in Blackburn Lancashire, whereabouts are you?
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Hold that thought, we might be able to buy it from you for the Android project if we can raise the money. £65 shouldnt be too difficult to raise!
Please dont sell it before speaking to us about it.
I'm in Blackburn Lancashire, whereabouts are you?
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.. is there an Android TG-01 developer fund - I'll contribute if you're able to buy a cheap TG-01
i'll contribuite too..
I have posted in the Android discussion thread and Alex has kindly offered to hold the donations:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672234&page=25
decide between yourselves if you will and start a donations thread and get the money rolling. Someone needs to pm tjcooper17 to ask him if hes still got it and whether he's happy to wait until the money is raised.
I'll ask dzo (or any developer users recommend with a track record for Android development) once we have confirmation that the purchase is going to happen.
Best of luck
tjcooper17 can you post some pics of the device since you say it has some scratches and also what comes with the phone, is the box, charger and everything with it and lastly is it sim locked to orange or unlocked?
Hi guys,
I'm in Shaftesbury, Dorset. The device is locked to Orange, I'll post some pictures in just a minute and I'll send it with everything I got in the box:
Phone
Charger
Manuals
USB to PC Lead
CD Drivers
I should be able to get you the device including delivery for £70 if that's OK.
Pictures in just a second
I'm having real trouble uploading the pictures at the moment, is there an email address i can send them to?
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I'm having real trouble uploading the pictures at the moment, is there an email address i can send them to?
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why you need to upload pictures ?
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why you need to upload pictures ?
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I think he wants to show us the phone.
Well, I believe him anyways
@tjcooper17:
What about making the pictures smaller?
Than you could place them here at xda as an attachment on your next post.
Sorry to butt in on this thread! We have a donation thread for TG01 Android development :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=804051
.. and a direct link to PayPal :
https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/w...63663d3faee8dc60d77e6184470d51976060a4ab6ee74
.. so far, £15 has been donated
Regards,
Alex.
OK I've compressed them quite a bit, didn't realise how big they were.
thanks for the pics.
The thread for the donations has been closed down by mods.. I'll pm the mod on how we can do this without collecting money on here. The only other way I can think of is if enough people pledge to put money towards the phone, then we donate to you directly.
Leave it with me.
TG01 donations thread closure
Pilot:
"the best thing to do is pledge a certain amount and keep a list
then when you have the funds needed then start gathering the pledges amending the list saying who has followed through"
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It appears that the word donations is contentious.
So if we want to do this, the best thing is everyone PLEDGES what they are willing to put towards a device on this thread, once we have enough money and a developer who wants to help, we can pay tjcooper17 someway and get him to send the device to the developer.
Sorry about the mess, I guess these things are there to protect xda users from fraudulent transactions so its probably wise not to ignore them.
On that note, I will say if anyone has any suggestions how this can be done without hickups, please feel free to put your ideas forwards.
Lastly, Endrix is the lead developer here, I have been asked why I am not accepting the device myself, it is simply because I do not possess the reverse engineering skills to take this project forward and neither do I have the time to learn to do so.
I am quite happy to help out where I can and look forward to purchasing a tg01 if android is successfully ported to it which I look forward to being a part of.
For instance, check out the following site which boasts the TFP for $320.
http://www.donagsystemonline.com/AS...utm_source=google-shopping&utm_medium=organic
Just look around in the site. You can see several very obvious signs of this being a scam, aside from the ridiculously low prices.
Just want you guys to be aware. That is all.
A quick search showed up at least half a dozen other sites with ridiculously low prices. They all track back to Britain.
The scam goes like this. You order the item and use paypal or credit card or whatever. You immediately receive an email from them telling you that to avoid complications or whatever they have refunded your money and that in order to send you the item immediately they need you to wire them the money via western union or some other company where it is impossible for you to recover your money.
Thanks for the warning.
good lookin out...
Ta for the heads up!!
Wonder why a site that claimed be uk based is priced in dollars!!
Reckon you are quite right about the method used lol
Trouble is that there is one born every day, and somebody is most probably stupid enough to click on buy.
the server is based in the US
Hmmm trying to remember how to report a fraudulent site to google now lol
Thought I'd run a whois on the site:
http://www.whois.net/whois/donagsystemonline.com
Bump.
I've seen several reports of people falling for this scam.
If it looks to good to be true... it usually is. No offense but I don't really understand how people can think such a thing is legit.
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Just emailed, will see if they are any better than the current offerings
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Will you be needing my bank details?
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Will you be needing my bank details?
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what do you mean ? can you send email to us talk about your question details?
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Just emailed, will see if they are any better than the current offerings
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My friend . i think you can trust this amazon shop . The prodcut is excellent
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do you ship worldwide? or only to certain location?
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what do you mean ? can you send email to us talk about your question details?
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It feels like a scam. Free giveaway from Amazon using what looks like private email address - advertised on a forum.
wouldn't bother, they want you to buy the item. then they will give you a paypal payment to cover the cost. So doubtful you will get the money back
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wouldn't bother, they want you to buy the item. then they will give you a paypal payment to cover the cost. So doubtful you will get the money back
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He's doing this on a variety of smartphone boards.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=446620473
Just reported him for spamming.
Will you ship to the U.S.?
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It feels like a scam. Free giveaway from Amazon using what looks like private email address - advertised on a forum.
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My dear friends,I just want to recommend best products to your guys.But, your guys do not trust us however I say how good it is .So , there are just one way to let your guys trust it .It is free trail.You can write real review for this product.we need share this good product with everybody.Some friend said it is a scam.But i want to say what
benefit i can get ?Which benefit you lost ?
I have just one goal ， I just want to recommend and share best products to peoples.
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He's doing this on a variety of smartphone boards.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=446620473
Just reported him for spamming.
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My dear friends,I just want to recommend best products to your guys.But, your guys do not trust us however I say how good it is .So , there are just one way to let your guys trust it .It is free trail.You can write real review for this product.we need share this good product with everybody.Some friend said it is a scam.But i want to say what
benefit i can get ?Which benefit you lost ?
I have just one goal ， I just want to recommend and share best products to peoples.
My dear friends,I just want to recommend best products to your guys.But, your guys do not trust us however I say how good it is .So , there are just one way to let your guys trust it .It is free trail.You can write real review for this product.we need share this good product with everybody.Some friend said it is a scam.But i want to say what
benefit i can get ?Which benefit you lost ?
I have just one goal ， I just want to recommend and share best products to peoples.Time and truth will prove everything.
ibywindtv said:
My dear friends,I just want to recommend best products to your guys.But, your guys do not trust us however I say how good it is .So , there are just one way to let your guys trust it .It is free trail.You can write real review for this product.we need share this good product with everybody.Some friend said it is a scam.But i want to say what
benefit i can get ?Which benefit you lost ?
I have just one goal ， I just want to recommend and share best products to peoples.Time and truth will prove everything.
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Stop spamming. I am not your friend either.