Hello everyone,
most recently I have updated my Hero to the new ROM supplied by the fellows at HTC (the 2.73... I think). Then I remembered that on my HTC S710 I used to have a rom that came from here. So, I took a look. I have a couple of questions. Oh, let me also tell you that I have rooted my phone (I think, with Instant Root).
So these are my questions:
What do you think is the best rom available?
And why? What are its advantages to a 'normal' HTC Rom?
As a beginner, I can look over this forum for hours (I did!) but still miss out on this answer!
there is no answer to this question, that's why.
It's like asking which is better, up or down?
Everyone will prefer a different ROM for different reasons. get your device flashed to the new recovery image and then you can try all the ROMS and decide for yourself what the 'best' one is.
Personally i stick with the generic ROMs and haven't used the modaco custom ROMs yet as i am happy with the way the device works and not in need of all the hacks that other people want as i rarely use them.
you may be different.
try them all and decide for yourself.
Hm. Yes, I like the way you are thinking - and heck, it is the second time you've given me a great reply! I'll go out and tinker with the world, and more specific: with ROMs! Although I have no idea what flashing my device to a new recovery image means, I do remember having to do something similar with my S710. And I am sure I will find an explanation here! Who knows, pherhaps in a short while, I will answer my own questions!
There aren't many customised ROMs for the Hero yet, partly because the source code isn't available yet from HTC, so the ones that do exist are based on versions of the HTC ROMs.
Use Flashrec and install the awesome modified cyanogen recovery image, then you can flash one of the ROMs. I chose the stock UK ROM pre-rooted, from MoDaCo's site (not the MoDaCo customised ROM though).
It's convenient because it is pretty much the stock experience, except it's pre-rooted which makes some other things possible.
dekraan said:
Hm. Yes, I like the way you are thinking - and heck, it is the second time you've given me a great reply! I'll go out and tinker with the world, and more specific: with ROMs! Although I have no idea what flashing my device to a new recovery image means, I do remember having to do something similar with my S710. And I am sure I will find an explanation here! Who knows, pherhaps in a short while, I will answer my own questions!
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Hey, I upgraded from a S710 to a Hero as well. I'm very happy with having done that as the Hero is such a better phone!
Anyway. Flashing a new recovery image is one one of these 'tinkering' things you/we have to get used to when playing with ROMs. Essentially the recovery image is a very basic control on the phone that you can reboot into, from where you can update the ROM or do total system backups. You can read about how to do this in MoDaCo's custom ROM thread in the android development section. Flashing a new recovery image and new ROM isn't too hard really; took me at most a couple of hours.
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Hi guys,
I was wondering if anybody could recommend me a simple, clean stock-like custom ROM without unnecessary programs and things installed. The primary reason for me wanting to flash to a custom ROM is for the considerable performance gain I keep reading about.
I have an Australian-bought unbranded HTC Touch Pro (raph100).
Thanks in advance,
Tim
timolol said:
Hi guys,
I was wondering if anybody could recommend me a simple, clean stock-like custom ROM without unnecessary programs and things installed. The primary reason for me wanting to flash to a custom ROM is for the considerable performance gain I keep reading about.
I have an Australian-bought unbranded HTC Touch Pro (raph100).
Thanks in advance,
Tim
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Tim,
Since this will be closed very quickly by mods....read in this section for a lite roms...the cooks put in the heading if they make lite Roms. Click on the rom and read the first few pages and it will tell you what is included in it...some examples are Da G and NATF's. No one knows what "unnecessary programs and things installed" is because it is different for each person.
I would go with this one. Actually, I am. It has ZERO bloatware in it and is very fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441109
I use the Optus stock ROM w/ 1.08.25.20M1 Radio. It's fantastic...
ROM link: http://210.64.124.194/download/RUU_...d_Raphael_CRC_52.33.25.17_1.02.25.19_Ship.exe
-Mc
Thanks for the suggestions guys. The Optus stock ROM is actually the one that came with my device originally since this is an Australian TP. If you don't think that any considerable performance gain can be had by installing a cooked ROM then I may as well stick with this. Thanks anyway
Tim
(PS. I'm new here, so I don't quite understand why this thread will be quickly closed by mods... sorry
You can flash any rom you want since most don't include a radio.
I use Da_G's Roms because they don't include ANYTHING. The ROM is a very basic WM6.1 rom with all of the latest drivers for the best performance. All programs outside of the standard windows apps are separate downloads which can be installed as you see fit.
This is nice because you get to see what a BASIC Windows Mobile environment is and what the phone runs like without all the extra HTC extras. It also gives a very good starting point to customize the phone the way YOU want.
The good thing is that because YOU install all the extras manually... you can also uninstall them in the event a newer version comes out.
There are other good ROMs too... but most come with a "standard" set of programs, most of which I don't ever use or want. I like Da_G's because I can be in control of what is on my phone.
My 2 cents.
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(PS. I'm new here, so I don't quite understand why this thread will be quickly closed by mods... sorry
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so? new or not, it would make sense to read the wiki first. i think they even put sometihng in to tell u to read the wiki after signing up (though i'm not 100% about that), but either way, you should try doign some reading before posting. it can seem liek a lot to read, but if u want to make improvements to ur phoen, then take some time to invest in it.
I've been looking through the posts and some are sort of old. So i'm posting this just to make sure I have all the current and correct information.
I'm coming over from a T-Mobile HTC Dream that I flashed to Cyanogen.
I want to flash my Sprint Hero to the Modaco Custom ROM primarily so I can wifi tether but also because I suspect that the Modaco ROM probably performs better.
anyway here are my questions:
Can I use Cyanogen's 1.4 Recovery Image to gain root access? If not, which should I use?
What version of the ModaCo ROM do I want to use? Is the most recent also the most stable?
Do I need to flash on a new Radio? If so, which one?
That's it. Like I said I did read through a bunch of posts first but since most of the ones I found with good information were from 6 months ago, I just wanted to make sure I had all the current information before going forward.
DaveKid
You may want to mention that it's a Sprint Hero in the title of your post. I was hoping to help you out, but like the majority of people here, I have the Telus/European model, so I don't think I'm qualified to answer your questions.
DaveKid said:
I've been looking through the posts and some are sort of old. So i'm posting this just to make sure I have all the current and correct information.
I'm coming over from a T-Mobile HTC Dream that I flashed to Cyanogen.
I want to flash my Sprint Hero to the Modaco Custom ROM primarily so I can wifi tether but also because I suspect that the Modaco ROM probably performs better.
anyway here are my questions:
Can I use Cyanogen's 1.4 Recovery Image to gain root access? If not, which should I use?
What version of the ModaCo ROM do I want to use? Is the most recent also the most stable?
Do I need to flash on a new Radio? If so, which one?
That's it. Like I said I did read through a bunch of posts first but since most of the ones I found with good information were from 6 months ago, I just wanted to make sure I had all the current information before going forward.
DaveKid
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Instead of the Cyanogen Recovery image, use this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581521
We don't have a new kernel so MoDaCo's ROM is just some tweaks to the stock OS until a working kernel is built and optimized. (Also wifitethering is working on the stock ROM for me, just gotta use the pre-release version since they only recently figured out what was blocking it).
You can find the CDMA MoDaCo here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581846
There's no new radio firmware so you shouldn't need to flash the radio.
It can be tough sorting between GSM and CDMA information but hopefully this will start you in the right direction.
Thanks thecodemonk, that information helps alot. So based on your information it probably doesn't make any sense for me to flash to Modaco right now. How do I get my hands on the pre-release version so that I can tether?
Thanks
DaveKid
DaveKid said:
Thanks thecodemonk, that information helps alot. So based on your information it probably doesn't make any sense for me to flash to Modaco right now. How do I get my hands on the pre-release version so that I can tether?
Thanks
DaveKid
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Sure thing DaveKid.
I'm running stock myself but it's really more of a preference thing. If you like MoDaCo's stuff, I am sure he will continue to improve it (once he gets back from his trip). I'm more waiting it out and I like tweaking things myself so I'm implementing some things he's done and doing other things differently. If you like MoDaCo, go for it!
Here's the link to the issue thread where I got the pre-release issue (as well as pros/cons of using it from other people...it's worth a read!)
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=188
Direct link to the apk file: http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com/files/wireless_tether_1_61-pre1_htc.apk
It's working well for me but some others are reporting an issue with wireless from it. I'm sure in time, they will have a more elegant official release for us.
one more quick question....
do I still want to format my MicroSD card into 3 partitions: fat32, Ext3, Linux-Swap?
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one more quick question....
do I still want to format my MicroSD card into 3 partitions: fat32, Ext3, Linux-Swap?
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The point of partitioning is to use Apps2SD (Ext2/3/4 partition) and to use your sdcard as a swap drive (Linux-Swap).
The point of Apps2SD is to store all your apps on your SDCard (surprise!)...usually because you have *that* many apps that it doesn't fit on the internal storage area. The other reason people do this is because they want an easier way to backup what apps they have installed.
As for the swap issue, there are a couple camps in this arena...
Some believe that Android should be left to manage it's memory as it was designed to do and that putting in a swap partition messes with that (since SDCards are slower than internal memory). I fall into this camp.
Other's believe that it gives them more flexability and overcomes some of the limits...they like having more things in "running state".
Hopefully that will educate you to make your choices the way you want your device to be.
Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
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Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
if you want to know if your phone is rooted download and install "Super user" and run it,you will then know if your phone is rooted or not.
I,like you,was a WM user and found android to be more complicated,but in fact it´s not...once you root your phone and install Amon-RA recovery ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4549551&postcount=1 ) its much easier and simple to do things.
theres a sticky in this sub-forum with wiki-guides,read it!
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Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
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True used a lot those roms.
Waiting patiently for a Vanillain rom based in eris dump.
Right now im still using AychTeeSee's just to be able to use the Buuf Theme
I'm in the exact same situation as Da9L . Could you please let me know if flashing a new ROM will also change the Firmware version?
Currently my firmware is 1.5. I've seen on a friend's G1 the voice search widget and I'm dying to get that on my device. From what I've been told, i need to get a newer firmware, but I've got no idea on how to do this.
Any help would be appreciated ^_^
Some questions:
So the short line of the process of flashing a custom rom is when using unbranded htc hero:
1. Downgrade my software to 1.76, as iam using the newest
2. Root the device acording to _this_ guide
3. Perform a backup
4. Flash the custom rom as i flash a stock rom?
Is that it? It leads me to some more questions
What is this "recovery image" and is there any reason to flash a new one?
And why is there any reason to change this at all ?
How do i get danish xt9 for sms?
And please i have a feeling that i am getting this wrong.. Can you please explain to me the procedure of doing all this ?
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
Da9L said:
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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That sounds great. However, since this is so new to me i do not know what new tweaks and apps i will be able to use and get if you follow me? When i have flashed a new custom rom, propably android 2.1, i do not know what new things it has and therefore where and how to use these new functions. And does the real advantage in a custom rom also get to a normal user or is the advantages more directed at the developers or?
Hi Guys,
I would like to ask you a question.
I just got the lastest updated from viewsonic for my gtbab. This upgrade includes some improvements such as : support for mouse and keyboard usb,french and spanish language , full flash support...
So at this point.. I am wondering...is still a good idea to install a custom rom?
If so, could you please point out what real advantages I can get once installed a custom rom?
It's important for me if it is worth to do it. So I need your real expertise in the subject.
Thanks
ralex76,
It really just depends on what meets your needs.
The current stock ROM -- 1.2.4349 -- is way improved from the old software we got
back last November. But it still does not have Market and some of the little fixes
the devs have come up with here.
I would note that roebeet already has posted that he will not be too long in posting
a new version of his TwoTapsX alternate ROM based on the new update. I am sure
he will build Market and fixes into it just like he has all his ROMs in the past (though
I can't speak for him). So that will make it a pretty close alternative to stock with
everything in it.
Then, there's Vegan, Gingerbread, Calkulin and a whole host of other ROMs with a
wide variety of looks and features.
The choice is yours based on (1) what you like and want, and (2) how much risk
to you want to take in learning to flash ROMs (and if needed troubleshoot, etc.)
I tell all new folks to go slow, read hugely here, notice what mistakes everyone
else is making so you don't make them yourself -- and have fun!!!
Rev
I think you just need to search around and look at the benefits of each ROM and compare it to your tablet. We don't know how and for what you are using your tab, so it is up to you if a ROM is more suitable for your situaion.
I think if you are fine with the stock ROM and don't see anything that you would want differently, don't bother flashing something else.
Also, make sure to look at Roebeets post regarding the newest OTA update!
Hi,
I'm sure that's a dumb question, but I had to ask it.
I have a Gen8 tablet, and would like three things:
Backup the whole ROM in order to put it back later on
Use that ROM in order to build another one for the same device
Use that ROM (look&feel, apps and so on) to build another one for another device
I've seen that some firmwares (with root) are available for this tablet, and would like to understand how they were built.
Did the developers start from aosp + archos "modified" kernel, or did they start from the existing ROM (aos files from Archos)? Or even a mix of all that?
I installed the SDE yesterday, and have yet to make a complete backup.
Thanks.
Its hard to say where to start after asking these questions. You should read a lot before doing it. Roms based on Cyanogenmod like Buzcuit's one are easy to backup. If you base a new rom on the existing one you will get the bugs of the main rom (Bizcuit's for example) and the bugs of the new rom.
Thanks for your reply.
I don't know if I'll try a new ROM for such an old device, but do you know how these ROMs were made?
I've seen there how to build a new kernel for the tablet, but not a complete system (I often build android-x86, but never tried aosp).
This is rooted stock firmware. Its made by Archos. You should read a bit more about it. I am not a developer and I have pretty basic knowledge and I havent tried myself. Biz and the others can help you much more then me. But ya, u have to read pretty much to start.
Ok, thanks.