Dear Xda Experts!
My name is Guy, I own an Xda Atom and I critically need your help...
About a month ago my life became miserable as the wifi module of the poor device has stopped functioning completely: It doesn't start when I click Menu->Turn on Wifi, doesn't respond to wireless manager clicks, fails the self diagnostics test etc.
After looking all over the relevant internet forums, I've found This post, suggesting I put the atom in the fridge for a few minutes. I've done that - and suprisingly - the wifi began functioning for a few minutes time. After that, it returned to its normal state of misfunctioning.
I understand that the problem is being caused by some sort of a heating problem within the device.
Is there a solution to this problem?
Rom experts (especially Jiggs) : is there a registry edit that might help, maybe to take some pressure of the processor, or to prevent the disappearance of the wifi as the device heats?
I bought the Atom especially because the wifi ability, as it is highly important to me, and as for now I'm seriously disappointed. The O2's support's laconic response was "Try the official ROM" (My warranty period is over).
Needless to say, I have already tried Hard resets, Rom upgrades of all kinds, flashing and reflashing, taking out the battery for a few days and nothing worked.
Please try to assist,
Your help will be much appreciated.
Thank you all,
Guy Sando.
Same with me.
Hi Guy,
I have the same problem with my Atom.
I tried to reinstall ROMs/Hard Reset and nothing helped.
One day in the morning after charging it all over the night, the WIFI suddenly started to work, but only for few hours.
Hope someone would have an idea.
Yaniv.
Do not used wireless manager or the wrlsmgr. try using Wifi Utilty by ALE**** i forget
Bye try to flash with the AKU 3.3.3 or AKU3.3F
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329181
jeffkewin said:
Do not used wireless manager or the wrlsmgr. try using Wifi Utilty by ALE**** i forget
Bye try to flash with the AKU 3.3.3 or AKU3.3F
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329181
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Dear Jeffkewin, thanx for the response.
Do you have a link or maybe a bit more specific name of the software that you recommended? (Btw, Software replacement seems a bit like a long shot, because of the fact that the "fridge-therapy" works for the wifi...)
As for the AKU's - I've tried them both, they're really nice, but none of them has fixed my wifi issue...
Maybe The upcoming WM6 Rom will. I keep my fingers crossed...
Thanks again,
Guy.
Can u goto the Settings, Connections, use the Wi-fi Utility.
Ignore the Turn on and off button. Turn on is turn off, turn on is turn on.. that the only text bugs, but the software is working fine.
Try SPB phone suite wireless icon
it happened to me one time while trying to reflashed ROM. When im going to Wireless Manager, I cant open my wifi. But if im trying to open it in SPB Phone suite , its working...maybe try this software. download it and i will give to you the serial for registration. But first try if it is work then thats the time i will give to you...
jeffkewin said:
Can u goto the Settings, Connections, use the Wi-fi Utility.
Ignore the Turn on and off button. Turn on is turn off, turn on is turn on.. that the only text bugs, but the software is working fine.
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it happened to me one time while trying to reflashed ROM. When im going to Wireless Manager, I cant open my wifi. But if im trying to open it in SPB Phone suite , its working...maybe try this software. download it and i will give to you the serial for registration. But first try if it is work then thats the time i will give to you...
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Thank you Jeffkewin and Generalriden,
Unfortunately, The solutions you proposed are not working. I have tried Phonesuite, Hitch-hiker and many more - none have worked.
I have also tried ignoring the text in the "Wifi utilities" application (In many different Rom versions) - still no good...
Has someone encountered the same problem and got it solved? Is there something about the Rom version that can fix this?
Thanks again,
Guy.
If you're using the official ROM and it's not working, then this is more hardware related. 'Fridge Theraphy' is not normal for your device. You have no choice but to go to service center, have it estimated for cost. You can buy now a brand new Atom at $250 or less.
Alternate solution would be a $50-$100 SDIO wifi card, but I think none would fit the miniSD slot.
There are miniSDIO wifis. They're pretty much the only miniSDIO devices. However, you're still better off getting a new device.
Sounds like your wifi module's overheating. This is a hardware problem (just like cracking speakers) and there's no way to fix it permanently short of a physical repair.
Good News
I had the same problem.
I tried almost every single possible solution which was discussed on this forum, including the Fridge Therapy. Fridge therapy really worked for a couple of minutes.
Finally, I took it to the service center and they said, the problem is with the board and the cost of repair is $400/-.
I was put off and challenged to see, something which works after the fridge therapy will stop working at room temperature.
Finally, I realized, the last thing beyond the ROM which I changed was the MS Active Sync. I had using Active Sync Ver 4.5. It seems to have some conflict. I reverted back to Active Sync Ver. 4.1 and reflased the original rom.
It worked and Active Sync Ver. 4.1 is working perfectly fine for my device. After the WiFi worked, I reflashed it to Jiggs latest WM6 ROM and its working well.
Might sound wiered, but the fact, I could resolve this issue by reverting back to Active Sync. 4.1.
Hope this helps to all dissappointed users of Atom.
Regards,
Anand
Anand Bhargava said:
I had the same problem.
I tried almost every single possible solution which was discussed on this forum, including the Fridge Therapy. Fridge therapy really worked for a couple of minutes.
Finally, I took it to the service center and they said, the problem is with the board and the cost of repair is $400/-.
I was put off and challenged to see, something which works after the fridge therapy will stop working at room temperature.
Finally, I realized, the last thing beyond the ROM which I changed was the MS Active Sync. I had using Active Sync Ver 4.5. It seems to have some conflict. I reverted back to Active Sync Ver. 4.1 and reflased the original rom.
It worked and Active Sync Ver. 4.1 is working perfectly fine for my device. After the WiFi worked, I reflashed it to Jiggs latest WM6 ROM and its working well.
Might sound wiered, but the fact, I could resolve this issue by reverting back to Active Sync. 4.1.
Hope this helps to all dissappointed users of Atom.
Regards,
Anand
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Dear Anand,
Thank you very much for your help.
I'm anxious to see if that's gonna work for me as well.
I'll try going back to AS 4.1 right now and will let you know.
Keep your fingers crossed for me!
Many thanks again!
Guy.
I'm happy for you mate, but that just sounds like the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard it just proves how unpredictible and unreliable our Atoms are, my Wifi has also gone on the blink for one or two weeks at a time and then for no apparent reason it fixes itself. Although I suppose running the Atom Exec rom in the Atom doesnt help nor the fact we run overclock apps to 624MHZ
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
guysando said:
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
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i think guys,IMHO, if the problem doesnt have a solution, change mobile and get the better one. So far, my atom pure is working great so i can wait to buy an iphone ;-)
guysando said:
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
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I have not yet syncronized my device with WM6 and AS 4.1. I just used it to reflash the Atom.
Also, I have heard, of AS to have an impact on WiFi Connectivity in the past.
Mine is still working fine. Infact, WiFi with WM6 is working much better than WM5.
Also, another thing which my help to have a logical conclusion is the fact, that when I used to sync with my laptop's WiFi on, my PDA's WiFi used to dissappear and when the Laptop's WiFi was off, it used to work well.
To be honest, I tried many things, starting flashing the first Atom update to the cooked roms, with AS downgrade. I wanted to share my experience, was quite excited that it may help many other like me.
Feel sorry for you :-(
Regards,
Anand
WIFI mulfunction
It sounds completly reasonable - a sofware conflict.
I have the same the problem.
However, one morning after recharging my ATOM for a complete night, the WIFI module suddenly worked in the morning till I......used the active sync 4.5 to synchronize it.
I will try to reinstall the 4.1 version and see how it works for me.
Yaniv
I've been using USB Modem with my Sprint Touch Pro for the last week and I'm having a major problem with it.
When uploading images via FTP, after one or two jpg files are uploaded, the upstream speed diminishes to almost nothing. It does this every time without fail.
The workaround is just disconnecting and reconnecting, but that's a pain.
Anyone else having this problem? It seems like it's some sort of switch being tripped in the phone or by Sprint when it sees that a large amount of data is being uploaded...just a guess though.
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I've been using USB Modem with my Sprint Touch Pro for the last week and I'm having a major problem with it.
When uploading images via FTP, after one or two jpg files are uploaded, the upstream speed diminishes to almost nothing. It does this every time without fail.
The workaround is just disconnecting and reconnecting, but that's a pain.
Anyone else having this problem? It seems like it's some sort of switch being tripped in the phone or by Sprint when it sees that a large amount of data is being uploaded...just a guess though.
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Hi,
Strange problem, I don't know if this will solve your problem.
But you should definately try a programm called "wmrouter" (google...)
This will turn your TP in a wireless router, which is really easy to use.
greetings,
Wout
have you tried the registry hacks for tethering? there's a cab if you don't want to do it yourself, but perhaps it'll fix your problem. You can do a search on here or go here for other touch pro essentials as well: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42730
The edits are under "internet" on there. goodluck.
wout said:
Hi,
Strange problem, I don't know if this will solve your problem.
But you should definately try a programm called "wmrouter" (google...)
This will turn your TP in a wireless router, which is really easy to use.
greetings,
Wout
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he's right. that app is great and also lets you connect your cpu wirelessly. only problem is that it drains your phone faster cause it uses wifi. but you won't have disconnections... you could try the registry hacks thread on that link i gave you first and if that doesn't work you should pay for wifi router or pdanet.
hey if you resolve this issue please update us on how u did it.. thanks
Wow, thanks for the help guys. Problem solved.
First off, USB Modem simply doesn't work right on the Touch Pro, so I'm uninstalling it. With the pre-installed Internet Sharing software, there's no need for USB Modem anyway and it cuts out the old step of having to dial #777 to connect.
Thanks for the suggestion Unflushablelog. I downloaded and installed the Internet Sharing tethering hack cab file, fired up Internet sharing and blam, full Rev A speed and no diminished upload speed and best of all, no #777 dial up. Awesome. Better solution than I could have hoped for.
As for WMWifiRouter, I'm sure that would work too but I prefer the USB tether.
Unflushablelog said:
he's right. that app is great and also lets you connect your cpu wirelessly. only problem is that it drains your phone faster cause it uses wifi. but you won't have disconnections... you could try the registry hacks thread on that link i gave you first and if that doesn't work you should pay for wifi router or pdanet.
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I just bought a touch pro and im waiting for sprint to ship it, i got the everything plus plan will sprint slap me with a huge bill for tethering?
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I just bought a touch pro and im waiting for sprint to ship it, i got the everything plus plan will sprint slap me with a huge bill for tethering?
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i think only the phone as a modem add on to the plan covers tethering... but that's why people use that registry fix... to make sure it uses the sprint line (which is what simply everything uses - regular unlimited data). we should be getting billed for it, but we don't. just try not to spend a lot of time tethering and you'll be fine (basically you don't want to raise any flags by having abnormal data charges on your account cause then sprint might look into it)... people have been doing this for years and that's always their recommendation.. i've never heard anyone say don't do it. it's something that sprint tries to capitalize on by selling an unnecessary extra when it should be free, whether you have the simply everything plan or just the regular power vision with internet
Unflushable could you provide some more info about this reg fix please?
The registry fix is here: http://pocketpc-live.com/top-stories/the-remote-party-has-ended-this-connection.html
Regards,
Carty..
Carty said:
The registry fix is here: http://pocketpc-live.com/top-stories/the-remote-party-has-ended-this-connection.html
Regards,
Carty..
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Thank you!
i cannot get my archos 101 to pair with my moto s305 headphones. it won't even recognize them when i scan. i use them quite a bit so this is a huge let down if i can't get it to work. just wanted to know if anyone else had any troubles in this department and if there is anything that may fix it or help me.
thanks
Crimton said:
i cannot get my archos 101 to pair with my moto s305 headphones. it won't even recognize them when i scan. i use them quite a bit so this is a huge let down if i can't get it to work. just wanted to know if anyone else had any troubles in this department and if there is anything that may fix it or help me.
thanks
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Jepp, having troubles too. Can pair with my HTC desire and my netbook, but connecting isn't possible. On my netbook there are no BT services showing up for the Archos, which is the reason a connection fails.
i was finally able to get my archos to see and pair with my headphones but it will still not let audio stream. so it will not fully connect, it says unable to pair with this device. this is a problem with archos because these headphones have paired with a dozen other devices no problem.
I've had problems getting my WiiMotes to connect. I have gotten them to connect twice - each time it was after a firmware flash. Once I d/c them I cannot get them to connect again.
Real bummer - wanted to play some SNES...
Yes, many ppl have had serious issues trying to connect an Archos Gen8 to their phones. So far, Droids seem to be the most "connectable" with the Archos. My rooted Moto Cliq with tethering enabled has never been able to connect no matter what I try (bluetooth or WiFi).
My only hope is that when the A70 gets rooted, there will be a custom firmware that actually makes tethering work properly. I'm fairly certain that it's a problem with Archos' software.
Nokia's seem to be connecting also through BT. I've read people with oldies like mine (E71, E72, E63, 5800s, etc.) that can teether and connect without problems. Haven't tried a headset yet though.
Upgraded from SGS to SGS 2 over the weekend and love the new phone. The only thing I am having troubles with is the Portable Wi-Fi hotspot tethering. If I use USB tethering it works perfectly but if I use Portable Wi-Fi hotspot with my computer it is slow/clunky and often reverts to "limited connection" on the computer and then under the Portable Wi-Fi hotspot heading on the phone it comes up with Error (in blue).
Has anyone else experienced this? Any solutions or idea's?
For all of those who wish to post "Just use usb tethering" I will thank you in advance so you don't have to post!
My preference is to use Portable Wifi hotspot.
There must be some data network problem with ur network carrier,,,mine is working just fine,,
but it happens when 3g strength is bad,,
Thanks for the reply but if this was the case then the internet on the phone and with the USB tethering would be the same and they are not, so I am pretty sure it is just related to the wireless tethering. Hope this helps explain why I think you are on the wrong track. Cheers.
I've been meaning to post about myself too. Tethering sometime is very slow. But when I tried download using the phone, the speed its great. Must be software related problem.
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Yes I am not the only one there is a thread over at the Vodafone Community (AU) site that a couple of other people seem to be having the same problem and it appears Voda have acknowledged there is a problem.
This happens to me too. Using Villainrom 2.1. Same problem when I was using Litening 3.0.
USB tethering is ok, but WiFi keeps disconnecting. Didn't have this problem with my old Galaxy S.
Also, do anyone else notice that when USB tethering, charging doesn't work very well.
Samsung and Voda have acknowledged that this is now a known issue and they are working on a fix however there is no ETA at the moment.
This problem seem to have gone away after I flashed to KG3. Will continue to monitor if it still happens.
dbchoong said:
This problem seem to have gone away after I flashed to KG3. Will continue to monitor if it still happens.
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Hey that sounds great. Could you let me know in a couple of days how it all goes.
Just one other thing, through testing found that the first time it connected it worked perfectly but reboot the phone (and in this case several laptops) and the problem started.
Thanks again for the feedback.
Been using WiFi hotspot on KG3 past couple of days for many hours at a stretch (need to keep charger plugged in, of course). Running beautifully. No disconnects or hangs. Sometimes with 2 or 3 devices connected to it.
Same to me!
I have 2.3.4 KG2 with CF-Root and have no stability issues on Wifi hotspot tethering.
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Been using WiFi hotspot on KG3 past couple of days for many hours at a stretch (need to keep charger plugged in, of course). Running beautifully. No disconnects or hangs. Sometimes with 2 or 3 devices connected to it.
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Wonderful, thanks for coming back and updating us. Cheers.