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Hi, i am newbie yet, but by what i read, RADIO is responsible by the communication, with GPRS, with 3g too for exemple.
My HTC TPT7272 works on dual-band trough the HSPA/WCDMA, only on 900 and 2100 MHz...
But here on my region, my provider provides the access for 3G only on 850/1900 MHz, so, i have to use EDGE to connect to the internet, but my HTC support 3G...
Does anybody know, if I can upgrade my radio, or if is possible to change the work band for 3G by the radio for provide my access to the 3G?
Grateful
Henrique
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I hope that would be the case, but I have yet to see it work for the many months on this forum. There are strong evidence that this is a hardware limitation on the Raphael. Unless you have a FUZE (AT&T version of Raphael), you are out of luck for 850/1900 HSUPA until someone comes forth with the software for us to try.
but so, u see some possibility?
if anybody knows, please contact me, i would love to use my HSUPA, crap of provider, could provide full signal..
if some version of raphael works on this band, could i install his radio? i really wants to navigate on 3G signal...
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Fuze/AT&T(HTC RAPHAEL 101)
Cellular;Phone
Cellular-Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
Cellular+Data+Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
FUZE WORKS ON IT, on 850, anybody know if I install his radio will work??
The official specs on HTC's website doesn't inlude 850/1900 as part of the HSPA (3G) connection, only for EDGE.
I have tried many of the radios here and none gives me 3G connection for my carrier, which is on 850 band for HSDPA.
I have tried 1.02.25.19
and then 1.02.25.28
and then 1.02.25.32
and then 1.08.25.20M1
and now 1.11.25.01
but I haven't tried any radios for the other phones since my TP is not security/CID unlock. You can try all the raphael radios, then consider getting CID unlock to try the other radios if you wish.
I have been on this forum for a few months and yet to read anyone successful in getting a TP working on 850. If you do succeed, please share this knowledge for I am sure there are still ppl out there wanting the same thing as you do as well. Myself being one of them.
I wish you success in this endeavor.
man, i am iniciant, i took my HTC TP in around 1 mounth, and one point that almost conviced me not to buy this pda was the 3g band.. i wait this more than you, lets wait if anyvody with much experience can post one help for us
one hug
Henrique
follow these threads and you will have your answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451484
they haven't updated recently, which means there is no more 'news' on it.
you can try searching for 3G in the elite RC3 thread up in the sticky section.
they still don't have a solution either.
you can keep waiting.
I was wondering if there is any difference in HTC S740 and HTC S743? or is it one of those marketing scheme. S740 for Europe and S743 for USA?
When I go to www.gsmarena.com and type HTC S743, it shows the specifications for HTC S740.
Can someone please let me know? Thank you and I appreciate your time.
I think that the s743 does not have radio, but I'm not so sure about that.
Yes, FM radio is one. MAJOR difference is in support of different 3G networks frequencies - models with american band (900/2100 MHz) are usually introduced few months later after European versions working on 850/1900 MHz.
Using other words - European version will work in US but without broadband support and vice-versa.
Rose
The Bands are backwards
850/1900 are USA
900/2100 are Europe
Oops... ;-) You're right.
how aboun an s743 in europe?is it going to work?
So the Hero's from England won't work on USA 3G bands correct? Does anyone know when a Hero will come out that is capable?
yes that is correct, 3g in the usa will not work on the hero. the hero will come out on october 11th for United States, many indications are hinting that the carrier will be sprint
does this lie in the hardware?
Sorry to bump this thread, but as I asked earlier. Does the 3G settings lie in the hardware, or is it customizable/changeable somehow?
No, there is nothing to "unlock" a non 1700 frequency phone to make it capable of accepting 3G speeds on T-mobile
I've no idea whether the radio in the Hero is capable of supporting T-Mobiles 3G 1700Mhz band, but I do personally find it hard to believe that HTC would manufacture 2 different GSM Heros (as opposed to a GSM and CDMA one) which differ only by the bands they support since the additional cost involved in having 2 separate production lines is probably far greater than the incremental cost of using a more capable radio in all GSM Heros.
My G1 is a US T-Mobile G1, and it works fine with the 3G bands here in Europe. In addition, if you look up the specs of the Magic on HTCs website, it does not mention the 1700MHz band, but the MyTouch 3G does support and it is essentially a Magic.
This would lead me to believe that it is likely to be a firmware rather than hardware restriction - only time will tell!
Regards,
Dave
Hero coming to T-Mobile USA
By the looks of things at http://www.tmonews.com and with a bit of url manipulation I was able to navigate to this pretty convicing and helpful page.
Anyone have any better resources?
foxmeister said:
...My G1 is a US T-Mobile G1, and it works fine with the 3G bands here in Europe. ...
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yeah, but the G1 was designed specifically for t-mobile and so the G1 itself was built to support the bands for all t-mobile networks in one device.
And as the european ones nearly all use 2100mhz, that is a slightly different case.
and as for the URL manipulation, that doesn;t always mean anything.. with the right manipulation, you can get it to show updates for one device on a page titled for a totally different model. however, it would be good if you are right!!
G1 = 1700 and 2100 MHz
Hero = 900 and 2100 MHz
So both work fine in europe (2100) but only the G1 will work with T-mo US (1700). Considering that there is no reasonable prepaid 3g data in the US anywhere, not many European travellers will miss the 1700MHz capability of their cell phone.
The choice of the 900MHz band is a bit odd, seems like the only reasonably-sized market for that would be Australia. At least it'll work when you are down-under ;-)
at the moment yeah, but many European networks are pushing to get access to the 900mhz frequency and use it for 3G once 2G gets turned off.
apparently it has better penetration into buildings or something...don't quite understand the reasons why it should be better for that, but the UK networks certainly want a bit of that action....
rhedgehog said:
at the moment yeah, but many European networks are pushing to get access to the 900mhz frequency and use it for 3G once 2G gets turned off. apparently it has better penetration into buildings or something...
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As a rule of thumb, the lower the frequency (longer wavelength) the deeper it is going to penetrate. Thats why you can listen to the radio inside whereas you can't see the sun (visible light=much higher frequency).
cool.
I understand now. i suppose it kinda makes sense as well, lower wavelengths tend to have more power anyway,so i shoulda figured that out....
cant quite work out if a radio rom change will enable diffrent network bands for my beloved hermes....im in australia vodafone and optus now has hsdpa on 900/2100 mhz band.so still my fone only gets 3g in the city....now if im correct the euro bands operate in this range.do euro hermes have a particular radio rom or did they have the same problem i do......could it be as simple as it sounds or is the hardware different.anyone got any clues would love to keep my hermes going.
got 42 veiws in 12 hrs someone must have some thoughts......
I am currently looking at purchasing a used Dell Streak, it is in Australia (so am I) but the seller says it was originally from the USA. Looking at a few different sites, the spec for American Streaks says UMTS 850. (Eg.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Dell_Streak )
The network I would most like to use here is Australia is Telstra's NextG network; it is described here: http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/3g_for_network_engineers
thus:
""3G" is a broad category of standards and services around "broadband" mobile wireless voice and data. Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) is part of this family and is the standard used for 3G services in Australia. Telstra's NextG product is a UMTS implementation using a Wideband CDMA (W-CDMA) radio carrier in the 850 MHz band. There are "legacy" pockets of 2100 MHz used in some areas. Most modems are capable of automatically switching between the two bands, though not always of making the best choice. Some Telstra technical staff recommend sticking to the 850 MHz band."
I know that the Dell Streak version sold here by Optus (Telstra didn't sell them)
was NOT usable on the NextG network, but the info above from the links seems to imply that a Streak built for the USA would be?
Am I correct, or am I missing something?
Thanks, Bernie.
Yes, the US Dell Streak will work on Telstra's NextG.
Currently using it. Getting around 2770kbps down and 1339kbps up.
so um.... hardware should be the same, so a baseband / radio flash + custom mod should enable it?
you running a custom rom or a us standard?
cheers mate
blues
Thanks bluhound,
I'm also interested to know if you can update an Aussie or UK version like live_blues suggests. Any idea?
Thanks, Bernie.
You don't have to flash anything. The US firmware will work with NextG out of the box.
I don't think you will be able to flash an Aussie ROM as only Optus has the Streak and that model operates on the 900Mhz freq, not Telstra's 850Mhz.
I am currently running on StreakDroid 1.9.1 with DSP v360.
Dell Streak FAQ - xda wiki
See the last two lines, roms do not determine/affect your 3G freqs or lock status, it's determined solely by the configuration applied to the device when it was manufactured.
Roms do not care what submodel/lock status you have, you can install any rom and it wont change anything here.
There is also no concept of a AUS rom as the only roms loaded on devices sold there are unbranded/retail (unless they changed it some time during it's lifetime)
thx Manii, so its a manufacturing thingy... interesting... im sporting a UK Streak in Oz, guess I would just have to try