Naztech n3005 FM Transmitter - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories

http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=29104&cat=1787
I was wondering, has any of you fine gentlemen out their used this gadget with the Touch Pro 2.

This should work the same.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-FM-Transmit...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item27acd25125
I purchased one of these back in June and its still working today. You can listen to your MP3s and answer/make calls. The only problem I have with these is that it doesn't charge the phone. The car adaptor only powers the device.

mda71 said:
This should work the same.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-FM-Transmit...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item27acd25125
I purchased one of these back in June and its still working today. You can listen to your MP3s and answer/make calls. The only problem I have with these is that it doesn't charge the phone. The car adaptor only powers the device.
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And purchased.. Thanks for the cheap link.. If you happen to find another cheap link for one with power passthrough.. well you know..

What if you use the passthrough that came with the TP2? It's got the power in the bottom, and in the side it has 3.5, 2.5 and USB jacks. One could plug the ebay FM on the USB jack.

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HTC TyTN to 2.5mm Wired Headset

Has any crufted an adapter that allows the use of normal 2.5mm cell-phone headsets to work with a TyTN. I like the fidelity of my awesome Plantronics headset, and I want to get it to work with the TyTN. Any luck?
Thanks,
-Humbert
Have you tried buying one from this site.
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
I just received mine last week and it works great, MUCH better than the stock headset.
Alan.
Edit: "Sorry mis-read the topic, this is to a std 3.5mm headset jack."
aw000002 said:
Have you tried buying one from this site.
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
I just received mine last week and it works great, MUCH better than the stock headset.
Alan.
Edit: "Sorry mis-read the topic, this is to a std 3.5mm headset jack."
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Not a problem, but thanks for the referral and review anyway. I will probably go ahead and order one of those, too, but really, I just want a wired headset.
Thanks,
-Humbert
No... I've been searching high and low. I've got a pair of Shure headphones that are amazing and have the 2.5mm 3-pole connector that works perfectly with my HTC Magician... I'd love an adaptor to just run them with my Tytn, but so far no luck.
Currently, I'm using a 3.5 adaptor and then another adaptor to the ExtUSB connector, so I've got no mic capability and two dodgy connectors between my 100 GBP headphones and my phone!!!
I'm going to take my Shures to an electronics guy and have him swap the connector eventually.
I found the following mini-USB to 2.5mm adapter for the Motorola phones.
http://www.theboom.com/adaptors.html
Anyone know if its compatible with the HTC mini-USB implementation?
kcchen said:
I found the following mini-USB to 2.5mm adapter for the Motorola phones.
http://www.theboom.com/adaptors.html
Anyone know if its compatible with the HTC mini-USB implementation?
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Nope, it wont work.
this is where our stores get their accy's from, you can get allot of good stuff here.
http://superiorcommunications.com/products/products.aspx
if you have a bussiness/Tax/reseller liscense (mispelled) then you can buy from here.
With the risk of a "me too" post, a 2.5mm converter would be worth money to me. I have yet to find one anywhere and am about to buy an extra headset and start "experimenting" and who know where that will lead. Probably to a new phone.
I emailed HTC America and got this reply...
Hello Michael and thank you for contacting HTC America. Unfortunately we do not make any accessories other than what is included with the device. There are some 3rd party vendors that do offer this accessory however; they are not affiliated with HTC. Please see the following link for one of them:
http://www.cell-phone-accessories.com/emu-headset-adapter.html.
Thanks,
HTC Support
I have one on order. I'll let you know if it works.
Michael
Hope?
Hi Michael --
Please let us know if this does work. This would be a great fall-back adaptor to use if/when my BT headset runs out of juice.
Thanks,
-Humbert
I just finished my request to HTC support. These devices do NOT work. No audio what so ever. I tried regular audio as well as the audio of a call. Nothing-nada. The adapter is stamped as "Motorola" on the back. Apparently the HTC version of the USB plug is not the standard "EMU" version that everyone else is using.
Michael
Ugh, why didn't they just add a standard 3.5mm headphone jack? That would have made everyone's lives a lot easier.
I just bought the Motorola adapter, ended up wasting $5 (not a lot, I know, but hey, it's money).
Maybe I should try for a refund...
If anyone knows any adapters that work with the Hermes/TyTN, I would love to know.
Well, I finally found an option that will work for me. My motorcycle has a 2.5mm plug for hooking a cell phone into the intercom system (it's a gold wing) It also has a 3.5mm plug for an aux device to the stereo. I got the moto hf820 from amazon for around $45. It is a bluetooth hands free device, but it also has a 2.5mm plug on it. So, the phone section of my 8525 now connects to the bluetooth 820 into the intercom through it's 2.5mm plug. For the rest of the audio, I am using one of the extusb to 3.5mm adapters. That way I'll be able to get my gps directions over the stereo. That is a long way around to do it, but the 820 seems to work out pretty well as a 2.5mm adapter.
MSHampton said:
Well, I finally found an option that will work for me. My motorcycle has a 2.5mm plug for hooking a cell phone into the intercom system (it's a gold wing) It also has a 3.5mm plug for an aux device to the stereo. I got the moto hf820 from amazon for around $45. It is a bluetooth hands free device, but it also has a 2.5mm plug on it. So, the phone section of my 8525 now connects to the bluetooth 820 into the intercom through it's 2.5mm plug. For the rest of the audio, I am using one of the extusb to 3.5mm adapters. That way I'll be able to get my gps directions over the stereo. That is a long way around to do it, but the 820 seems to work out pretty well as a 2.5mm adapter.
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Holy ****, what a rube goldberg device!!!! But, I like your ingenuity. I ride myself (BMW GS) and so I just may try to cobble together something similar to yours...
However, most people want the wired headset so that they don't have to rely upon bluetooth. I want a fall-back headset.
To be honest, I found the perfect BT headset, and so I'm not sure if I need a wired connection anymore. I bought a jawbone and have been using it for 2 months. I like it so much, I bought a *second* one for when I run down the batteries on the first one, I can just use that one. Sure, it costs me $120 a pop, but after using 6 different bluetooth headsets over the last few years, this is the first one where people can't tell that I'm on a headset. Yes, it's that good.
-Humbert
HHumbert said:
Holy ****, what a rube goldberg device!!!! But, I like your ingenuity. I ride myself (BMW GS) and so I just may try to cobble together something similar to yours...
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That it is! I have the Kennedy CellSet (www.cellset.com) on my goldwing that integrates the cell phone as if it is a 3rd party on the intercom. Makes it kind of nice because either me or my wife can take a call while we are riding if needed. Anyway, I had the adapter for a 2.5mm plug and they don't make an adapter for the extusb of the HTC so hey, this works. Not only that, the GPS audio and the phone audio are on two different channels on the bike now. Worked out pretty good.
Hi there!
I'm interested in that problem too. So is there an adapter what is working, and tested yet?
If not, maybe we should try to cut down one ExtUSB to 3,5mm adapter and cut down the 2,5 mm side of the headset, and then maybe it can be built together, and we have a headset, with ExtUSB port.
Is it a possible way? Maybe any alternatives? God I'll be really happy if we can do something to do with this
Could always try this
www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/08/18/orange_spv_m3100_headphone_adapter_hack
Massiv
2.5 and 3.5 fix for USB
I too have an expensive Shure headset with a 2.5 connector that I used on my Cingular 8125. I just moved to a Cingular 8525 e/w the ExtUSB connector.
I have been working with the tech support guys at Shure and we have sort of a fix. My Shure headset has a Mic so it needs a 4 conductor cable and the corresponding 4 wire jacks to carry voice to the handset. BIG issue. None of the current connectors (Ext USB to 2.5 or 3.5) carry the 4th wire! They will carry audio out over the 3 wires. . . stupid I guess.
So Mobile Planet and others now have a TyTN (Titan) Cingular 8525 cable adapter that is made by ORA and has its own mic, and answer/hangup control and ends in a 3.5 jack for a headset (3 wire). This means that if you have a 2.5 jack on your headset you need another adapter to reduce the 3.5 to a 2.5 (+/- $10.00 US).
Then you use the mic in the adapter. This is a real mickey mouse rig but it works and you do not have to buy another very expensive headset. You just cannot use the mic in your expensive headset! The cable is also a little long since the adapter's cable is about 20".
If you are thinking of buying a good wired headset then use the ORA adapter (Shure is about to come out with one also) and a standard Shure 3.5 headset like the SE series ($150+) which has a shorter cable. The two work nicely together. It is what I am using now. see link below:
(http://www.shure.com/PersonalAudio/Products/Earphones/SEModels/index.htm)
but they really really work well . . . and are worth the $$s
However, does anyone know if the HTC P3350 W100 Wired Remote Control(http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=145859) will work on an Cingular 8525?
2.5mm adapter for 8525
http://store.pchcables.com/spmoppxvat85.html
I ordered one and it works perfect. About $8 with shipping.
Rosbif22 said:
http://store.pchcables.com/spmoppxvat85.html
I ordered one and it works perfect. About $8 with shipping.
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I'm interested in something like this. It says it works with three-connector 2.5mm jacks. Does this mean stereo headphones or mono headphones+mic? I want to have phone conversations so hopefully mono+mic.
Thanks!

PPC Techs PDA2K 2-5mm - 3.5mm Stereo Headphone Adaptor

I wondered whether anyone has had a positive experience with this adapter on the XDA IIs. I bought one and it worked fine on my journey to work using Shure in-ear phones. Then after work I plugged in and could only get the left channel. No amount of fiddling would remedy this. So assuming a fault I returned it to the well known supplier and was sent a replacement. My experience with the repalcement today has been identical. It was fine on first use, then wouldn't work again. But I can't see that there is any way in which I could have damaged the adapter.
I'm beginning to think that there is something going on in terms of the way my XDA is responding to the cable. Or am I being paranoid, when it's actually a duff product?
Has anybody had sustained success?
UPDATE
Okay, so now it's working again but it starts to drift to the left channel after a while. Pressure on my headphone jack relative to the socket rectifies this, indicating a design problem with the socket, possibly exarcebated by expansion from being in a warm pocked. That's the only reason I can think of for it stopping working and then starting again. The fact that I've had problems with 2 of these is not a good sign.
Look here, it is that you are looking for
no
I specifically want to use audiophile grade headphones. I understand that Shure now do a mobile headset, but I don't want to pay out again when I already own 2 pair of quality headphones.
I guess I'll have to stick with the separate mp3 player.
There are TONS of 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptors. Just go to your local electrical hardware store.
It has to be one that is suitable for Blue Angel I'm told. I have a conventional adapter, but that doesn't work. It needs to have three plastic rings on the plug apparently.
I have some crappy headphones with a 2.5mm jack, and they work on the BA, so are you sure about that?
I tried a regular adapter that I already had, and that didn't work. There were 2 different cables available through Expansys, with specific instructions about which one would work with the XDA IIs. I bought the right one for about £10 including delivery, and you know the rest.
I've actually just resolved the problem by trying a cable from a Hong Kong trader on eBay for about £3.50. And it appears to better quality. I'll think again before buying from Expansys.
I use a little adaptor i bought for €0.60 ( $0.80 or something like that ), and it's working perfectly.
Oh how fortune has shone upon you.
Edu115 said:
I use a little adaptor i bought for €0.60 ( $0.80 or something like that ), and it's working perfectly.
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great! i bought an adapter for €6,90.- today, and it is not working!
it's a white adapter cable made by HAMA, if pluged in completely, i can only hear things on one (right) channel/speaker.... major bummer!
what kinda adapter do i need for getting both ear plugs to work....??
or at least, where can i get a working adapter or working headphones or maybe even a working stereo headset!?!
cheers,
krz
PS: anyone knows,if the SENNHEISER MM 10 would work with the blue angel ?!?
http://www.sennheisercommunications.com/comm/icm_eng.nsf/root/500737?Open&print=
I got my new one from this guy:
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/johnnyhs321
It works perfectly.
cdjc1 said:
I got my new one from this guy:
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/johnnyhs321
It works perfectly.
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hi again!
i am still looking for an adequat stereoheadset or adapter for my mda3...
could you, cdjc, (or anyone else) post some pictures of the adapter, especially close-ups of the minijack, please? i want to know, how many poles it has and stuff...?
please help!
thx a bunch
krz

Looking For The Perfect Headphones!

Need some type of earphones that have a over the ear holder
I have some Airdrives earphones that I use with my iPhone but for some reason when I plug in a usb to 3.5 adapter into G1 I can hear fine but the mic on the headset doesnt work (person on other line cant hear me). The earphones that came with G1 wont stay in my ears. Have you ever seen a HTC compatible USB connector type stereo headphones that have some type of a over the ear holder and a mic for phone calls?
I use the HTC wired remote control and a set of Bang & Olufsen headphones. This arrangment works very well...
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=46
Regards,
J
headphones and charger at the same time
hi because the batt so bad on these phones i was thinking of adding a plug or jack to charge and use the headphones at the same time. i am looking at fitting 2 plugs where the usb slot is. but that would mean changing the plug on the charger. or fitting an extra plug some where in the phone for the headphones. anyone got any ideas before i start hacking the thing to bits
adam
possible solution
qtronix said:
hi because the batt so bad on these phones i was thinking of adding a plug or jack to charge and use the headphones at the same time. i am looking at fitting 2 plugs where the usb slot is. but that would mean changing the plug on the charger. or fitting an extra plug some where in the phone for the headphones. anyone got any ideas before i start hacking the thing to bits
adam
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My wing came with a usb splitter just for that reason you might find one on ebay.
Dirtay said:
My wing came with a usb splitter just for that reason you might find one on ebay.
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thanks bud i didnt no you could buy them ill have a look on the bay.
adam
my shadow has one to i use with the G 1
Just search for HTC Y splitter or HTC Y adapter.
qtronix said:
hi because the batt so bad on these phones i was thinking of adding a plug or jack to charge and use the headphones at the same time. i am looking at fitting 2 plugs where the usb slot is. but that would mean changing the plug on the charger. or fitting an extra plug some where in the phone for the headphones. anyone got any ideas before i start hacking the thing to bits
adam
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ill sale u mine !!!! : )
I bought one off Amazon for $3 odd. just search for "2-in-1 mini USB and 3.5mm HTC" its really small and lets u charge it along with listening to music
I was wondering what market you were in? I purchased the G1 in the US and it came with the adapter.
tboom8669 said:
I was wondering what market you were in? I purchased the G1 in the US and it came with the adapter.
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Can you charge and use the headphone at the same time with that adapter?
tboom8669 said:
I was wondering what market you were in? I purchased the G1 in the US and it came with the adapter.
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You did? i didn't
tboom8669 said:
I was wondering what market you were in? I purchased the G1 in the US and it came with the adapter.
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My WING came with one, my G1 did not, are you sure yours had a CHARGER adaptor?? This looks good and sells on eBay for $5.50 total. Search for : HTC Touch Pro Diamond mini USB, 3.5mm Audio Adapter
Shouldn't HTC just put this $5.50 adaptor in the phone? Unbelievable!
Combine with with a carcharger and last.fm & streamfurious on your phone and VOILA you have SIRIUSXM except with thousands of channels as long as you are within cellphone Edge/3G service.
For a headphone only option (not recommended as you drain your battery so fast its not even funny) you can try this one for 45 cents SHIPPED:
Search for: 3.5mm USB Audio Adapter for HTC Touch Diamond PPC-6800 on eBay and the seller is gpslot
Go it Ultimate Ears!
Is the 3.5mm headphone adapter an original HTC one?
RC E100 for the G1?
Hihi, I recently bought the HTC RC E100 (http://www.blueunplugged.com/p.aspx?p=137320). On that site it says that G1 works with it. But it doesn't? I tried it, and sound still comes out of the speakers.
Now it said that I need a driver from the disc or from the HTC site. I tried to install that, but it says that the phone is already updated and needn't update anymore.
Does anyone else have this headset, and have it working on their G1's? Thanks!
edit: Well upon researching, apparently it doesn't work. Stupid misleading site is misleading.
There was a set of headphones that came with the G1, you should see if you can get those or see if tmobile will give you some for free if they didnt come with yours.
I was almost tempted to purchase these or get the doopad ones(rc-w100) off amazon for a little cheaper. I was wondering if the g1 will even be able to have this function through the ext.usb? I know the drivers for winmo phones won't work but is there even the slightest bit of possibilities?
I know A2DP is comming for bluetooth but is there going to be an AVRCP profile also?
Apple In-Ear Headphones on Dream G1
Anyone had a chance to try it out?
I can't seem to find a single post anywhere talking about what the music quality is like or whether any advanced features like volume control work or whether calls work using the microphone.
Side story: I went into the Apple store to try it out and the store nazi said I could not try them on due to hygiene reasons. Fair enough, but he then even declined taking them out of the packaging so that I could just handle them and talk into it on a call to see if it worked. So instead I handled the box instead, ShopSavvy scanned it and then accidentally dropped it onto the somewhat dirty floor. Oops.

2-in-1 [USB Mini/3.5 MM] adapter

So I just purchased this handy little adapter which takes the USB port on the bottom of the G1 and turns it into a USB Mini jack and a 3.5 MM headphone jack. Why go to all this trouble? So I can charge AND play music at the same time
I bought this little piece of wonder off of Amazon for $6 including shipping, and it arrived in 3 business days. I'm really glad I bought it! Here's the review I posted on Amazon:
This is truly a neat little device. I often want to play music in my room over my T-Mobile G1, and it's a battle of charge versus play. I have to make sure that if I do play music, I'll have time afterwords to charge back up. Not the case anymore! I'm able to play music and charge my phone at the same time.
The adapter is very compact for what it does; it looks much bigger in the pictures than it actually is. It's about the size of a quarter, and a little longer width-wise. Sound quality is great; compared to the stock adapter that comes with the G1, I found that bass frequencies are carried much more better and with a little more "oompf". I found a lot more power for my system, and it works great.
The build quality is what you would expect; plastic build with very solid adapter ports. I don't expect it to break at all. The phone charges at the same rate of speed as normal, even with playing music. The port that plugs into the phone is the proprietary port that the G1 has, and the "out" USB port is your typical mini-USB port.
Overall, it's a great product, and a must have for all G1 users!
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I definitely would recommend this to just about everyone, and wanted to know what everyone else's experience is with this product!
i just ordered this...i was tired of having to take out my headphones when i wanna charge my phone
I have the 3 in one charger but what i really need is something just like this but i need to have each port n an opposite side. Why you ask?
I have a Moto p790 charger and i would like to be able to have that plugged in while i have my headphones in. now that would be useful.
kind of like this one but smaller.
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-Converter-Cingular-T-Mobile-Cavalier/dp/B001RXTDP2/ref=pd_sim_misc_11
Do0zman said:
I have the 3 in one charger but what i really need is something just like this but i need to have each port n an opposite side. Why you ask?
I have a Moto p790 charger and i would like to be able to have that plugged in while i have my headphones in. now that would be useful.
kind of like this one but smaller.
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-Converter-Cingular-T-Mobile-Cavalier/dp/B001RXTDP2/ref=pd_sim_misc_11
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funny, mine came with that one.
I bought one that lets me charge/audio out/headphones in/usb/whatever made by HTC off ebay.
Removed ebay link since amazon has good price right now
I bought one but I have a sort of huge problem. When using it audio only goes to my right earphone. Can anyone else confirm this? I'm using jacxhero so that might be way.
mrfrenchfry said:
I bought one but I have a sort of huge problem. When using it audio only goes to my right earphone. Can anyone else confirm this? I'm using jacxhero so that might be way.
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Did you try switching earbuds? Haha sounds simple...but I have this really bad luck with audio devices, that eventually everyone I have I break the soldering points that connect the jack to the circuit board, and I always loose an ear of sound. It's just odd...but that could be it as well.
lukekirstein said:
Did you try switching earbuds? Haha sounds simple...but I have this really bad luck with audio devices, that eventually everyone I have I break the soldering points that connect the jack to the circuit board, and I always loose an ear of sound. It's just odd...but that could be it as well.
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Ahhh, just tried different buds and different builds . Guess I'll email them to see whatsup.
Do0zman said:
I have the 3 in one charger but what i really need is something just like this but i need to have each port n an opposite side. Why you ask?
I have a Moto p790 charger and i would like to be able to have that plugged in while i have my headphones in. now that would be useful.
kind of like this one but smaller.
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-Converter-Cingular-T-Mobile-Cavalier/dp/B001RXTDP2/ref=pd_sim_misc_11
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Thanx, just ordered that.
MvP77 said:
Thanx, just ordered that.
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Let me know if it works. I keep reading in the reviews it doesn't work with cupcake.
midnite23 said:
Let me know if it works. I keep reading in the reviews it doesn't work with cupcake.
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I bought this and it works with every rom I've tried. Cyanogen, JAC, JF.
I also needed an extension so I could hard wire my charger and line in behind my car dash with only one lead showing and the HTC adaptor has about an inch of cable between the EXTUSB and the adaptor itself. I hunted high and low but could only find one company who could do it and it were these guys.
Jays Earphones
I want one of these but it's much too thick for what I wanted it for (I only want music), Isn't there one that has only mini USB to 3.5 mm? I thought I had seen one a while ago.
I got one made by HTC when I got my Wing a couple years ago. It works great on my G1 and my MT. It is super handy to have it you listen to a lot of music
got a link where I could get one?
def. getting this tonight
Tried this on a friends G1 (stock T-mobile firmware lastest updates) and it does not come up with a headset icon like it does on my touchdiamond2. Does this mean it does not work or is the headset icon just for when you have a microphone attached?
i've noticed on the HTC one that the 3.5mm headset jack doesnt work. you need to use the adapter cable that came with the phone and plug it into the headphone port on the htc adapter.
Do0zman said:
I have the 3 in one charger but what i really need is something just like this but i need to have each port n an opposite side. Why you ask?
I have a Moto p790 charger and i would like to be able to have that plugged in while i have my headphones in. now that would be useful.
kind of like this one but smaller.
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-Converter-Cingular-T-Mobile-Cavalier/dp/B001RXTDP2/ref=pd_sim_misc_11
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I have an HTC Fuze and it came with this little Gem. It works on my G1 and MyTouch without issue. I love this thing! You can find them on eBay for around $7.00 USD
microphone?
When using this on a G1, if you plug a headset with microphone into the 3.5mm jack, does the microphone work on calls? I've read mixed reviews about this on Amazon and wondering if anyone has had experiences? Thanks,
I just got an HTC YC A300 today and it's working brilliantly!
It's 4-in-1, with extUSB headset plug, 2,5mm (mic+headphone), 3,5mm and extUSB power and data.

Bluetooth car kits

Was wondering any one had any experence with some of the bluetooth car kits that are out there now. What i am looking for is one that can be powered from a standered car power port and hook up to the AUX port of the stereo then the phone streams music to it via bluetooth. I dont have built in bluetooth in my truck nor can i easily replace the stock head unit. there are a bunch of these out on the market today but i want to hear some feedback on whitch one if any yall have used and how good it worked
you could maybe use this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003D...3-6577789-3213205?ref_=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us
connect one end of the aux cable to your car stereo, the other end to that Bluetooth device, and then connect your device to the Bluetooth thing.
theoretically, it should work.
Problem with that one is it probally needs a battery.
Pbwizkid said:
Problem with that one is it probally needs a battery.
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don't know if you read the actual product info or anything... but it says it is rechargeable.
Ya but i want one of the ones that stays plugged in to the power port on a car. such as this
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004CLYJ2I...e=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B004CLYJ2I
i just wanted to see if any one on here has used them and witch one seem to work best or if its even work it at all

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