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Do you guys think WM6 speed is slower than WM5? or just my imagination?
I have tried AKU 2.2 , 2.3, 3.2 , then WM6 pdamobiz V2, WM6 PDAVIET 4.0.0.6 touch version, I found that both wm6 version respond time are slow, is it just these 2 build, or generally , WM6 is slower?
I have to downgrade to 2.2 jester R1 again.... still find that it's a best version at the moment....
I am using now PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 I find it ok for my needs. Indeed the fastest for me was ASERG 3.3.13 - amazingly fast rom. Before that I used the official version from o2 - it was an AKU 2.0 and was awful.
chavdar said:
I am using now PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 I find it ok for my needs. Indeed the fastest for me was ASERG 3.3.13 - amazingly fast rom. Before that I used the official version from o2 - it was an AKU 2.0 and was awful.
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same with me for both;
PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 &
ASERG 3.3.13
still ASERG 3.3.13 is incredibly faster and stable,
PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 much faster in my s200 than wm5.. but battery deployment much higher...
fireburn said:
PDAVIET 4.0.0.0.6 much faster in my s200 than wm5.. but battery deployment much higher...
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PDaviet 4.0.0.6 touch is the fastest Os ive tried although the program memmory is less since it is 8mb pagepool...........
it isn't really faster. wm6 has some improvements like faster loading of startmenu icons after a softreset or a faster windows directory access, but the rest of the speed is the same. opera doesn't render faster and coreplayer isn't able to use higher bitrates. and performance improvements which only can be recognized with benchmarking (for example sktools) aren't important. two or three point higher scores aren't subjective improvements.
wm6 is faster but it is only a little advantage over wm5.
Try Smart1 V3. It operates at lightspeed compared to official WM5 ROM. Specially when using Batterystatus. Mine is running constantly at 286Mhz without significant heating up.
oh, my official wm5 rom from o2 was SUCH A PAIN. they forced me to use these "illegal" unofficial roms. booting the device took 5 minutes and accessing the windows directory caused a 3 minutes long loading circle...
I'm a little bit confused
WM6 is so slow on my device and few bugs, but of course newer versions and functions in the core, sure it is better but slower
I'm using WM5 2.2 witch is old but fast and stable I try every newer version of pdaviet and Prophet Touch; as I have now adsl connection at my work but no time; in my tests they are the best but go back to wm5 2.2 always waiting the final wm6 version from microsoft and ROM makers here wish that it will be good
again wm6 is slower than wm5
Hi
Have a profhet G4, but i have now tried EVO8, Transfomer 1.0/1.1, Touch IX and Crystal V4.
They all run to slow even with xcpuscalar, and battery time is not good enough for my daily use. (Not using Wi-FI)
So should i try to go back on a WM5 rom ?, or has anyone good experiences with a WM6 rom? Maybe i should try with a clean WM6 rom? (link?)
thanks.
BR. Flemming
If Crystal V4 (Personal Edition) is not fast enough for you, I think you should cook your own ROM, 'cause that's all that left. If you do find a Faster ROM, I'd love to hear about it.
all now available wm6 rom is slower than wm5
digifan said:
all now available wm6 rom is slower than wm5
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Is it? All this while I thought WM6 (pure ones without TouchFlo and other fancy add-on) should run faster. I don't know cause used WM5 (think it was a very old release) for like 1 day plus then upgraded already.
Just open the Windows folder or settings in an WM5 Rom after you used WM6 and you will see which one runs faster.....you should also compare booting times! oO
In fact: Nearly any WM6 rom is faster than the WM5 ones...try it and you will see!
Greetz
digifan, if you say that WM6 is slower than WM5... then you have no experience in WM6...
BioniX said:
digifan, if you say that WM6 is slower than WM5... then you have no experience in WM6...
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I agree with you. If more speed is needed , there is always battery plugin
Finally, at some point you're facing the hardware limit...
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digifan, if you say that WM6 is slower than WM5... then you have no experience in WM6...
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well spoken indeed.
@digifan
BTW, if you feel that WM5 is faster than WM& why the hell are you interested to upgrade. Stay as it is, man
Stuclint said:
If Crystal V4 (Personal Edition) is not fast enough for you, I think you should cook your own ROM, 'cause that's all that left. If you do find a Faster ROM, I'd love to hear about it.
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I think too.
Well I'm happy that you found Crystal V4 fast. Recently there has been some development in ROM cooking world and consequently the crystal V5 will be even more stable and fast ! Crystal V5 will be a clean ROM with VOIP. The free storage memory will be somewhere around : 46 Mg .
This rom will be released in two to three weeks
good
waiting
Shark_XXL said:
Just open the Windows folder or settings in an WM5 Rom after you used WM6 and you will see which one runs faster.....you should also compare booting times! oO
In fact: Nearly any WM6 rom is faster than the WM5 ones...try it and you will see!
Greetz
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I totally agree with you. I was almost abandon my Pocket pC before WM6 make my day again.
In era WM5 I totally refused to reboot due to slow booting time. WM6 safe a day.
Good luck!
i think you can enjoy htc photo album gestures and cube and other gr8 interfaces which wm6 has offered rather than think of speed ,you see there is a difference between a vintage glider(wm5) and a boeing 747 (wm6)and a f-16 fighter aircraft and a chopper , all have their own specific usage advantages and disadvantages ,no one of them will provide you everything at one place. you cant take a ferrari on country rally and if a country rally car comes to ferrari race it won't win .they have their own routes to go into.
WOW!!! hma4, 46MB wud b a treat!! I simply luv the freedom a clean ROM gives
46 MB.. It is really good... As I said before, you are one of the greatest....
serious speed issue
Guys,
I do have a Prophet as well as a Tornado. They seem to be identical in terms of hardware, but the even with the default WM5 roms the Tornado is way faster (windows folder opens in 2-3 seconds while the Prophet takes a well 6-7 seconds).
If you add special features to the Prophet, such as HTC Home, and a couple of other gimmicks, then it can be painfully slow (even with my cpu o/c at 273MHz). I did a hard reset to mine a couple of weeks ago and now I need over 20 seconds to open windows folder. I don't know if it is the rom to blame (I am currently using a PDAViet ver 4.0.0.0WWE) but we have to do something about it! Even the phone features are getting slow
Does everybody confirm that Crystal V4 is the fastest rom around? I have also in mind a TNT Greek rom (since I am Greek). Is that any good in terms of speed?
hma4 said:
Well I'm happy that you found Crystal V4 fast. Recently there has been some development in ROM cooking world and consequently the crystal V5 will be even more stable and fast ! Crystal V5 will be a clean ROM with VOIP. The free storage memory will be somewhere around : 46 Mg .
This rom will be released in two to three weeks
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ooo,yes.the best news for my weekend.
agha hamed ma az tarafdaraye paro pa ghorse shomaiim
baese eftekhare maiid.
thanx
hma4 said:
Crystal V5 will be a clean ROM with VOIP. The free storage memory will be somewhere around : 46 Mg .
This rom will be released in two to three weeks
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I'm waiting for it
It would be the perfect WM6 rom for prophet
hma4 said:
Well I'm happy that you found Crystal V4 fast. Recently there has been some development in ROM cooking world and consequently the crystal V5 will be even more stable and fast ! Crystal V5 will be a clean ROM with VOIP. The free storage memory will be somewhere around : 46 Mg .
This rom will be released in two to three weeks
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that is good news
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
Thanks for the info. I love DCD roms, but I'm really wondering about this new WM6.5 rom. It would be nice to hear some more comments from others about each. Thanks!
Not so much an opinion as an educated comment...
I think that you are going to find that WM6.5 (and IE8) are just plain designed for devices with more RAM than the Titan's 64MB. It's a hardware limitation that is just going to be difficult to get past. Compare it to running Vista on an older desktop box with only 512MB of RAM... it will work, and look pretty, but it will be very limited. Vista (and WM6.5) were designed around hardware that is unfortunately higher horsepower than older machines like the desktop I used as an example above (in the case of Vista) and the Titan (in the case of WM6.5) have.
It'll be fun to play with (I haven't tried it yet) but expecting it to be a reliable daily driver on the Titan is probably asking a bit much. I found the same thing with Opera 9.5... it is beautiful, and the best mobile browser I have ever seen, but the Titan just can't run it effectively (without the low memory errors).
were getting pretty close on the memory but your right the 6800 got the shaft on the ram dept.
don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D
I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
and even with M2D loaded and 18.8MB free at bootup, I am still able to run
google map, sms\mms and IE plus Activesync running .. with no issues..
also runs my TomTom without any issues.. plus 6.5 runs faster as well overall..
granted as you keep loading more apps if you go to task mng, just by opening
task mng. it close some apps .. if you flip to and from your apps you'll see they
are still running .. well my experience anyways...
I use my phone just like if its a PC .. hell this post if from my phone.. the new IE is damm sweet...
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I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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It might be better to compare WM 6.5 to Windows 7 instead of Vista.
Running Windows Vista on an old/slow computer is a horribly bad idea. However in beta testing Windows 7 I installed it on a Celeron M laptop with only 1gb of ram and it ran like a dream (without Aero). My boot up and loading times were equal to XP. So if WM 6.5 is designed correctly, it could work just fine on our devices.
The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
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don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
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What do you mean without hibernate? I guess that might be a noob question sorry. 25.6 would be even better than DCD roms. Wow.
hibernate refers to oxios hibernate which releases memory to help make your phone run faster
sudermatt said:
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
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The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
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the main part of 6.5 is done .. whats left is the interface, the build number
will may go up once the interface is added however there is no memory issues
I know of .. other than the first few beta 1-3 release that has the nueKernel
(a 3rd party programs that cause memory issues .. not the 6.5 kernel !!)
that add was removed from beta-4 and no more issues ..
Also note, after the new interface is added to WM6.5 I believe it will be strip out anyways
at it will be built for VGA or higher PDA's and even if there is a QVGA version
its going to require a ton of memory anyways!! what you will be left with is
whats out now anyways!! thus DCD 6.5 may end up being on this same built!!
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WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
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x2 ..
check this thead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477525
I see that there are some roms now with 6.5 on 'em. What does 6.5 have that 6.1 does? Is it worth the upgrade for me to do it?
It is all personal preference. Try one and compare. I still like 6.1 better.
When I used 6.5 the only differences were that 6.5 had:
- titanium today screen (which I don't like)
- honeycomb Start Menu (which is harder to use so again, I don't like it)
- way less free RAM
- way more memory leaks
- much less stability
- lots of other bugs
It may have improved by now but since I didn't like any of the new features brought to the table (titanium and honeycomb) anyway and got less free RAM on our already RAM-limited device, I'll just stick to 6.1.
6.5 is nice, but the biggest problem for me is memory. If you want to have a functional camera (low memory mode), it's even worse. I'm feeling its time for a hardware upgrade (especially since USCC is getting the TP2 )
i tried 6.5 a while ago.. couldnt get used to it.. so back to the rom in my sig....
The fantastic HD2 came out with Manilla 2.5 (HTC sense). Anyway for porting this over to the atom life?
I hope this is possible, even though I understand that the HD2 has a far far better processor that can handle the load compared the atom. There seem to plenty of 6.5 ROMS - any manilla 2.5 or even 2.0 ROMS?
Well, the Atom lacks good 3D support. So in the end it's not possible to have Manila 2.0/2.5 on our Atom. Next point is that the Atom has only 64MB of RAM - this is definitly too low to run manila smoothly. And it looks so that no one is even interested in porting Manila 2.5 to QVGA.
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Well, the Atom lacks good 3D support. So in the end it's not possible to have Manila 2.0/2.5 on our Atom. Next point is that the Atom has only 64MB of RAM - this is definitly too low to run manila smoothly. And it looks so that no one is even interested in porting Manila 2.5 to QVGA.
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Cheers, yeah I thought It was useless to keep my hopes up. I might end up buying the HD2, so we'll see
hi
very good and nice manila 2.5
why m2d 2.5 can't use in atom life
sory bad english
kritdw said:
The fantastic HD2 came out with Manilla 2.5 (HTC sense). Anyway for porting this over to the atom life?
I hope this is possible, even though I understand that the HD2 has a far far better processor that can handle the load compared the atom. There seem to plenty of 6.5 ROMS - any manilla 2.5 or even 2.0 ROMS?
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There is a manila 2d.cab just for atom life, cooked and tested on my atomlife for 1month now, still in good shape.
checkout the some links here at XDA, i forgot where i got it from. If you still need it, PM me [email protected]
Good luck.