is every Hero battery so weak ? - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I know that there are quite a few threads about battery life in Hero...
Mostly everyone says : switch this off switch that off....
I dont want to switch anything off!!
I would expect from a mobile with all those gimmicks to last at least 15-17hours with all on (ok maybe not wifi all the time and gps but with 3G for push email and updates for widgets)
mine barely lasts 10hours even that I dont play with the mobile too much or lately tak to much on it...
are Your batteries so weak as well ??
Im thinking of getting either bigger battery (1800mah that doesn't require new battery door) or just give it back and get a new BB or even Nokia ( my e71 maneges to last 20hours with 3g push email on all the time from 2 accounts and wifi and gps from time to time...)
I love android, I have to admit that....screen in Hero is lovely...but for ...sake...c'mon...not even 10 hours ???
I need your opinions on this guys.
Or maybe my battery is £"%&^%
Thanks

I have also problems with the Hero battery.
I've found out if i charge it with the usb cable, the battery gets very hot.
so now i only charge it with the adapter.

my battery lasts a day and a half normally, or a good 24 hours if I'm using it a lot
if you have lots of apps/widgets that stay active, it's going to go down... this is essentially a small computer, more powerful than many older laptops, and with a fraction of their battery size... you're always going to be able to push it past limits

Well, when you have the data connection on all the time you only get one day out of it. When you turn off the always on data connection, up to three days.
Obviously how much you use it is the most important factor. It won't do a day of gaming ofcourse

I have exchange ,gmail accounts...weather with clock and thats it...that are all the apps I have on all the time..
and it barely can get over 10hours :/

Use Spare Parts to see if any application is holding open a partial wake lock for extended periods.
Regards,
Dave

My battery has been fine since day one.
You guys on your phone 24/7 or what?

azr6 said:
My battery has been fine since day one.
You guys on your phone 24/7 or what?
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I'm not..but when I switch it on lets say at 6AM when I go to work I expect it to last at least until 10PM with push emails on and other widgets.

I would check your uptime.
Like someone mentioned earlier. The more widgets you have goin and other apps the faster the battery will drain. That is just how it works.

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Sprint Hero battery life

I'm fairly disappointed in this battery and will start gathering benchmark metrics,asking others to do the same for more data points and what does and doesnt work to increase.
Currently I have disabled sense ui and reduced widgets down to hardly anything, just a search and taskiller. I seem to get around 10 hours with moderate usage (occasional short call, several texts and quick searches, etc) letting android download background data and check google accounts email, contacts and calendar (this really is the power of the phone, cloud syncing pim). Weather, stocks and other "widgetable" apps are refreshed only on demand.
It's worse than I thought. I went less than 6 hours today with only one quick call (<1 minute) a few youtube clips and 2 texts. I noticed the phone was pretty warm in my pocket compared to my HTC touch (it actually felt cold sometimes if left on the desk) and a few times I noticed that there would be no radio "bars" but most of the time I had 3-4 out of 5 bars (I never have recetpion problems where I am) leading me to believe that something goofy is going on with the radio. I am going to reset since my testing is over today!!
katmandu421 said:
It's worse than I thought. I went less than 6 hours today with only one quick call (<1 minute) a few youtube clips and 2 texts. I noticed the phone was pretty warm in my pocket compared to my HTC touch (it actually felt cold sometimes if left on the desk) and a few times I noticed that there would be no radio "bars" but most of the time I had 3-4 out of 5 bars (I never have recetpion problems where I am) leading me to believe that something goofy is going on with the radio. I am going to reset since my testing is over today!!
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Whit what tool did you test it?
It's still to early to tell but I'm seeing decent battery life. Better than my pre but not great. Certainly acceptable considering I'm playing with it all the time since its new.
i also am seeing bad battery life.. i had court yesterday, and had it OFF most of the day.. and it was dead last night, i turned it on after court.
anyone notice this:
the website has extra batteries
http://nextelonline.nextel.com/NASA...oryID=BSH5110&topPageNumber=0&subPageNumber=0
they say 1340mAh. mine says 1500mAh
do you guys think thats a mistake?
xmoo said:
Whit what tool did you test it?
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I just looked at battery usage in Spare Parts at various parts of the day and input this manually to minitab. No special app or anything.
slackwaresupport said:
anyone notice this:
the website has extra batteries
http://nextelonline.nextel.com/NASA...oryID=BSH5110&topPageNumber=0&subPageNumber=0
they say 1340mAh. mine says 1500mAh
do you guys think thats a mistake?
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I read that the European version has a small battery, but because it is GSM is supposed to have as good or better battery life than the CDMA version.
The GSM Hero has a 1350mAh battery, and battery life is reportedly slightly better than the Sprint Hero even with its more capacious battery. As you correctly surmise, this is due to the Sprint being a CDMA network.
Why Sprint would want to sell a lower capacity battery though, I've no idea!
Regards,
Dave
my battery didn't last a full day either
I am into my 3rd day of usage (on single charge) on my week old hero.
Running on 2G network, turning off all data connectivity, manual reduce screen brightness, minimum vibrate and sound notifications for typing and applications
I have a Sprint Hero and the battery is at half strength not too long after lunch. But since I've only had the phone 3 days, I probably am playing with it more than usual. I'm guessing Seido will come out with an extended life, same size battery. They did with my Touch and it was great! It was very handy having a spare battery when I was out for a long period of time, away from anywhere to charge the phone.
Im also into my 3rd day of usage, and been off the charger all day today... had a couple calls, couple texts, bout 3hrs worth of browsing/facebook/twitter... down to about 60% as we speak so i know its a vast improvement from my tp... hell, 2 hrs of anything on that phone and it would be below 50 percent before the day even really started lol...
There are a number of things you can do to help improve battery life.
1 ) Turn off Wifi autodiscovery. You can always turn it on again if you are at a spot where you know you have a good wifi connection and plan on using it. My Hero was constantly telling me about wifi hotspots that I was driving past. I've found a number of widgets that will turn wifi on with one push.
2 ) Set Twitter, Facebook, and or email to check for updates less often than stock. I don't remember exactly what mine was set to at the beginning, but one of the first things I did was set Twitter to every four hours and Facebook to every two hours.
3 ) GPS is also a battery eater. Turn it off unless you need it.
4 ) Whenever you get a new phone, you ( well, I do, I'm just assuming that you do, too. ) use the heck out of it, playing with settings, seeing what all the programs do, downloading apps and games. Battery life should pick up as the newness wears off.
If you guys want a little more juice, Seidio just came out with a 1750mAh battery that fits in your device's existing battery space and doesn't require a replacement door.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi17htp2.htm
Problem is, whats the point of having a phone designed to have al lthese features if you can't use them as the battery just dies.
My T-Mobile G2 / Hero dies so quick it's annoying.
Yes I've been doing lots of stuff with it this week but to have to turn of 3G to save battery is a laugh. My old Sony phone uses 3G etc and it can last a good two days without charge.
I've kept my 3G on but have kept all the updates to minimum amounts or to be done manually.
Background data also turned off most of the time but again, if it's required, then we shouldn't have to turn off.
It's about time batteries were developed or the companies actually provide longer life ones.
All the testers reviewes keep going on about how great the battery life is doing all these things and stuff, what batteries have they been given to use compared to the rest of us I wonder?

Battery Drain - hardware or software?

First of all, hello to everyone. I have been reading through a lot of threads here in the last few weeks after getting my HD2, especially the ones about battery life.
I have never owned a smartphone, so I have no comparison but I'm barely getting through 1 day of use when fully charged! And I'm not even using it that much yet, Wifi is off, no data transfers, just some texting and calls. I have installed Bandswitch and Battlog, didn't really help though.
Got the phone brand new (T-Mobile US) and haven't done any major tweaking yet, it's still pretty much stock with a few programs that I installed so far.
Do you guys have a similar experience or is it completely different? I love the phone, but if I dont even get through one day of use (and I want to use the phone in the future, not just for surfing but for music streaming or web browsing), I would have to bring it back.
Any help appreciated!
It's just something you have to live with, buy a spare battery, or the extended battery, flash a lighter ROM, adjust screen brightness turn off push e-mails etc etc.
I can get 2 days battery from very light use. i.e. a few texts and calls a day, no Wi-Fi, bluetooth or internet browsing. That's just how smartphones are.
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
brutzel1 said:
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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Maybe you shouldn't have a smart phone? Battery technology is ****, it's a shame, but it's true. The only thing I can suggest is a spare battery, I carry one everywhere.
I generally watch an hour and a half of video a day on my phone, text, call, use the internet and I can still make a 9 hour day with 40%+ battery left, and just incase I am out and about in the evening before I have a chance to get the phone on charge I have the spare.
But with that said half hours charge from the mains will give you a good 30% topup I very seldom have to swap the batterys and I use a pretty juicy ROM.
Kalavere said:
It's just something you have to live with
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or maybe not
Given his kind of use, 2 days should be normal. Right now I'm squeezing 3 days out of this battery, and that's only because I swap it out when it's at 10%, otherwise it could be a little longer... and a few calls here and there is not the only thing I did with it... it's still my work pda after all
Since it's pretty much stock, unless it gets better with time (the first recharging cycles are the worst) and even after a hard reset it won't get better, it probably is something wrong not software related.
Install battclock and check the standby battery drain, shouldn't be much higher than 4mA, up to 7mA could be normal, any higher than that, especially if significant, and you've got something wrong, and found the cause to the short battery life.
First off, buy a couple of cheap oem batteries from here...
Now, these eBay batteries have performed slightly better than the original battery...
Some of us smartphone users are so used to poor battery life we have power charging cradles at home work and car just to keep the charge up... And have spare batteries every in case of emergency...
I take my phone off the charger at 6am to go to work... My avg day is 6-10 calls, 20 reminders, an hour of UNO, an hour as a wifi router and I return home at 5pm with 50-60% battery life...
they are trying to make batteries smaller and thinner so they can make the phones thinner and smaller so battery life is compromised. But you do need to give it some time to settle in.
Back up batteries and cradles to charge them are cheap and an easy solution. So are extra chargers to keep at work, in the car, etc. Most people can charge their phone at least an hour during the day and that should give you all you need.
The only smartphone that I didn't carry an extra battery for was the moto q9c, because it came with an extended life battery. But on these phones, that probably isn't the best option.
So what did you guys do to improve the battery life of your HD2? Are there any specific programs (I heared about G-Profile) you are not supposed to use or did you guys just deinstall all the T-Mobile Apps?
If I can just get 1 day of actual use out of it I am OK with that. I just dont want to have die every second or third day if I use more often than normal...
Any suggestions or may tests I could do? I feel like I could stream music on Slacker for about 90 Minutes and the battery would be dead...
EDIT: Just did Battlog for about 15 Minutes, my phone uses between 15ma and 31ma when in standby. So where do I start, how do I find the culprit?
I love huge screen HTC devices and Im a power user, so my solutions for power issues are:
Callpod Fueltank Duo
http://palmtops.about.com/od/accessoriesperipherials/fr/Callpod-Fueltank-Duo-Review.htm
Mugen Extended-size High-capacity 2600mAh Battery for HTC HD2
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
There is a 15% discount right now, better hurry.
Extra chargers and thats it! Now I browse, calls, emails, music, videos, TV stream (Slingplayer) and maximize all of the other features of my HD2 t9193.
Software and the end-user are the cause behind battery drain. I've got 2.5days out of moderate use so I don't think it's the hardware at all.
Methods for testing battery consumption and proof it is typically software related
Hi,
At the risk of looking like I'm trying to hijack this thread, I started a discussion on this particular subject a while ago as feedback on my finding after reading almost all the threads I could find regarding battery use on the HD2. Lude219 is 100% correct, the issue is always software related (yea, I know there might be exceptions to the rule) and my phone was a prime example of that.
See the thread below that explains how to measure your battery consumption, has logs and screen shots from users you have high consumption and also people who have systems where battery life is more than 48 hours so that you can compare your results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718173
Regards
I'm also sure it's software related. My phone would use app. 2% overnight with all connections closed. This i tested over months. Then suddenly without me changing anything drastic software wise, it pulled 5% per 3-4 hours. So after going thru all the cleaning routines nothing helped exept a good "ram cleaning" . Somehow or other the phone starts processes over time wich consume alot of power. One would have to look into it with a process manager to find out what exactly it is. WinMo seems to be quite sofisticated looking at all the running processes. So my view is , keeping the system tidy might be the only way to save the extra power.This is where the huge diffrence to other platforms seems to be, it can take quite a while until you have configured your phone the way you need it. I am useing the stock rom 1.66 German
thanks you guys for participating and sharing your thoughts.
But now, here is a thinker:
Last night, I let my battery drain all the way to zero and then recharged it at night. The only other thing I did was installing BSBTweaks and Touch X Taskmanager. I also changed my Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before).
And I couldnt believe what I was seeing, I took my phone off the charger this morning around 8.30am and now at 7pm I am still at 84%!!! I did not use the phone heavily but sent and received a few texts, made 1 call and played around with it for a little bit. Similiarly to what I did in the beginning after I got the phone, but then the battery had almost died at 7pm!
I am super happy and hope it stays like that but cannot explain why all the sudden it is that different...
Hi everyone,
This is a very usefull thread, for me it is, thanks to everybody that answered.
regrding the last post, a noobish quesition is
”Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before): how do i do this?”
I remember stumbling upon this setting the day i got the phone and started viciously going through it.
Somehow it didnt store in my memory the path i went that day so i can try doing what the man sugested.
So if anyone can lay a hand, much obliged.
Regards
i lost 12 pct over night in 9 hours with my radio turned off last night and only gmail and texts were open...
with battlog how do i do the test so it stays in standby? it keeps turning the screen on and off when i run benchmark
You may want to flash a new radio. Try a new one each day and measure battery life. I use radio 2.12.50 and have had a good experience.
yeah but with my radio turned off the radio shouldnt affect it shoudl it?
i use blackberry to stream pandora radio thru aux for about 8 hours a day and it still has 2 bars left after that.
HD2 just sits there and kills the battery lol
what kind of phone is that when you have to disable all its functions every time you dont use it?
seriously this is called unfinished product or poor design, that is beeing sold to customers as a next best thing.
you guys can argue with me all you want. i heard many excuses from users advocating the companies. such as. if you dont like this than pay more for a better product. well HD2 is a better product, its a 500 dollar phone damn it.
but you dont realize that even the "better" products suffer from same underdevelopment syndrome.
companies spend millions on consumer research and consumers spend millions on **** they dont need every year. cows eat grass, consumers eat garbage made by big companies.
where are the better products? they dont exist because it became "normal" to have a faulty OS or for your phone buttons to fall off, or battery to explode.
companies worked long and hard to make consumers get used to the idea that garbage is just a part of life, and worked long and hard to minimize costs of production, and cut corners.
which corners?
the final QA testing that is not beeing done by a company, so they can release the phone 3 months earlier, the consumers pay for the phone and test it.
we work for the company and we pay for it instead of getting paid.
the phone breaks oh how sad ,
company takes note(dont use this cheap glue or the buttons fall off, get a lil more expensive glue next year)
so they use better glue and cut another corner and we buy another "new and improved phone" and this time screen goes dim oh dang not again...and it continues.
do you disconnect your car battery every night so it doesnt die? or when you buy a lexus do you drive with your AC off because it cant pull the car around when ac is on same time as the stereo?

[Q] Mozart battery life

Hi!
How long does your Mozart work.
My settings: WiFi & BT are off / Exchange sync is permanent.
Around 30 mins calling time a day.
Battery is empty during the afternoon. It simply does not "survive the day" and has to be recharded. Is my device not ok, or do you have the same experience?
DrEAdler said:
Hi!
How long does your Mozart work.
My settings: WiFi & BT are off / Exchange sync is permanent.
Around 30 mins calling time a day.
Battery is empty during the afternoon. It simply does not "survive the day" and has to be recharded. Is my device not ok, or do you have the same experience?
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Are you on telstra network perhaps?
I read something on the internet about a bug in the Exchange service, it reestablishes the connection every minute, so thats why you battery is empty so fast. (probably)
HTC is working on the problem. but if you are on a Telstra network there is a workaround http://blog.walshie.me/2010/11/15/htc-mozart-telstrabattery-issues-solved/
Hope this helps
I was not too pleased about the battery myself, but it was never as bad as what you're reporting!
I've always had Wifi turned on and use Exchange email... and have been continuously using the media player or an app or game now and then... and it lasts me a full day... There was once or twice when i had been continuously at it that it had 20% left by evening...
I posted about it on the forums too and someone said it'll automatically adjust itself... i was a bit skeptical, but today it still has 60% battery left and it is 12:15 AM now...! (though i did have Wifi turned off for the most part today)
Hello everyone
I have the htc mozart one month offered by the girlfriend. I used the mobile phone several times and even with wifi and bluetooth on and always lasted one day (24h) without problems. yesterday charged at 24h and at 15h had no battery. had not even turned on wifi or bluetooth. since then the battery does not last anything I do not know what happened but its not and nomal. Somebody now something about? This its really a joke but I know that the battery lasts well over
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Hello everyone
I have the htc mozart one month offered by the girlfriend. I used the mobile phone several times and even with wifi and bluetooth on and always lasted one day (24h) without problems. yesterday charged at 24h and at 15h had no battery. had not even turned on wifi or bluetooth. since then the battery does not last anything I do not know what happened but its not and nomal. Somebody now something about? This its really a joke but I know that the battery lasts well over
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were you in an area with poor cell reception? if yes, that would affect the battery because the phone is constantly working to maintain a signal. i'm using an 1800 mAh battery from Mugen and it's easily lasting 32+ hours with 1 Push Exchange account, BT/Wifi off, 2 POP accounts (1 hour retrieval times) and about 40-80 minutes of calls when i'm in an area with a strong signal. i spent two weeks at a client site where i could barely get 1 Bar (and most often had "No Service) and the same battery would be depleted in about 18 hours. when working in an area with great cell reception, battery life is great for my use. on 2 occasions i forgot to charge the phone overnight and had about 15% battery left when i woke the next morning. in case you're wondering, i'm using the HTC TestTool - Battery Tool (v1.20.0.0) to determine battery percentage. you can find in in the WP7 forums.
I'm using the phone as I have always used but something happened that makes the battery last while. without stirring overnight stays with half in morning
i leave in portugal and use optimus
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Spyaxman said:
I'm using the phone as I have always used but something happened that makes the battery last while. without stirring overnight stays with half in morning
i leave in portugal and use optimus
sotty bad english
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That the point you living in area where the cell phone reception is really bad!! It's same for me when I go to my Island in carraibe !!But where I living Paris and London I can keep the battry 100% at 7h in the morning till late in evening around 2h at 20%; Using all day Wifi, TV, Game... So the issue about battery is not the phone but carrier issue.
Because when I take a "Metro" or "Tube" where the reception are really bad my battery drainning fast....
For me it last for a day, since i don use 3g n wifi, i use followin settings.
3g turned off
wifi turned off
Always try to close the running apps using the back key.
everynite i switch my phone to low brightness, so that i don need much time in charging my phone in the morning b4 i leave to work.
with every settings turned on the battery last for 15-17 hours.
hope they fix the battery issue in the comming update.
With heavy usage 9-10 hours battery life for me.3g,4 e-mail account.One is push,the others checking every 15 minutes(almost getting 150 e-mails every day).1 hour talk time,Web browsing over 3G,listening music 30-45 mins,playing games 15 mins.(Brighness medium,location service all on)
using dark back grounds will help save power, but everyone nows that dont they.
Except it won't help with Mozart. It only works for AMOLED displays, Mozart has an LCD.
it has at least awesome standby time...
the red light once began to flash when i went to sleep.
when i got up around 9-10h later the phone was still on.
only bluetooth was off...
even more standby power, im back to report:
3+ DAY STANDBY!
i charged my phone friday 02-11-2011
untill today (tuesday) it still lasted,
same-time as last-charge 02-15-2011
thats incredible 4 days...
WLAN was OFF the most time
3G on
only did around 4-7 2min calls
didnt play much with it,
only quickly checking for news in market from time to time
had 2 reboots because of that
and did around 5 pictures.
i think its pretty awesome times...
yeah with heavy usage its only 1 day
but still its a phone and its standby is great
There's no surprise that the phone lasts long when you don't do anything with it.
As far as I can see, the battery annihilating combination is browsing the web via 3G. Guess IE was optimized for speed to impress with responsiveness. This probably won't change much until IE9 comes (which may or may not help). The power-hungry screens are a universal problem on all current HTC devices, with WP7 and Android equally, so this won't change.
The real killer is WI-FI, i upgraded to the MUGUN 1800MiH Battery, and im not looking back, it lasts way more than 50% longer than the standard battery did.
for £28 with free delivery, you'd be silly not to buy it.
also, as an aside, the Battery arrived within 4 days from HONGKONG, which is great because it advertised that the battery would have a 10 - 15 day shipping time.
Okay... what if
had 50% power left the night before...
after 6 hours sleep
phone is out of battery @@
Now that aint right, im guessing something is running under locked screen and iono what!!! but i always jump out of any program when im about to sleep too, so it cant be because of that
In the past, i could have standby time for a long period especially after one night. But the past two days when i woke up, it always ran out of battery!!
the first two days when i got my mozart it died on me due to low battery. but when i upgraded it to nodo(i think), the battery is longer now. but i will check some more.
my battery usually lasts 24 hours. But when I open htc weather, starts to pick up GPS signal if I leave soon have a very abnormal wear of the battery.
I tried with other Porgram gps and the same happens, the battery does not last 10h

5 hrs on batteryand I'm @ 98%

Given the recent run of battery posts, i thought i would join in. Yes you read it correctly; 98% after 5 hrs on battery. Thats with an up-time of 8:20, and an awake time of 1:51. During that time i checked and replied to a couple of emails(opened a photo attached) looked at pics in the gallery, and watched a 30 second video w/max volume three times. Also checked the weather several times to update the 5-day forecast.
So whats the secret? Dont open up any of the other screens after you reboot. Or, you can remove whatever you have on there and have only one active screen.
Heres the proof ( sorry about the crappy pic, all i had was my old Hero)
How do you do it can you explain a little better
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
Well, I don't have a picture, but my battery is down 2 bars on the screen you are showing...so roughly 80% I guess. I have up time showing 39:17:xx and awake time of 12:51:xx. I've looked at some pictures of my cat several times (had to put him to sleep yesterday due to a degenerative disc disease that finally damaged his spinal cord to where he couldn't walk anymore ) I did a lot of texting, e-mailing, some web surfing, and updating some programs from the market. I also talked on the phone for about an hour.
What did I do for this? Well, the only account sync I have is GMail, all the other crap is turned off. I have the LCD brightness locked at about 20% (auto brightness unchecked), I use WiFi whenever possible since 3G sucks the battery, and the only widget I have running is the HTC Sense weather/clock thing. It is set to update every 4 hours. Otherwise pretty basic stuff.
Uptime and awake time don't mean anything in regards to your claim. That just means, since you last rebooted your phone has been up for 8 hrs 20 min, etc. What you have to show to backup your claim is the time since unplugged...
awenthol said:
Uptime and awake time don't mean anything in regards to your claim. That just means, since you last rebooted your phone has been up for 8 hrs 20 min, etc. What you have to show to backup your claim is the time since unplugged...
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Well, I don't really have to prove anything to you. We are not in court and I am not on trial. However, I can tell you I wake up every morning at 7:30 and unplug my phone which means, at the very least, the awake time is accurate. I didn't realize up time was only since last reboot. But still, sitting at 8/10 bars at 13 hours. If you don't believe it, then don't.
awenthol said:
Uptime and awake time don't mean anything in regards to your claim. That just means, since you last rebooted your phone has been up for 8 hrs 20 min, etc. What you have to show to backup your claim is the time since unplugged...
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OK, so its was on battery for 5 hours and I unplugged it at that time. Im not trying to brag, cause frankly the battery was pretty crappy for the first week. I believe the stand-by time on this phone is awesome, Im more concerned about how fast the battery drains once you start using it.
ttieder said:
How do you do it can you explain a little better
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
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When you reboot your phone, the only active screen is the home screen. If you long-press the Home button, you will see the other six screens blank. I left the other screens the way they came from the factory and found out that if you even look at them once, they seem to remain active even if they are not being updated.
I was charging my phone before I went to bed, and waking up with 95% (yes I minimized all the background updates). Then I would drive to work with BT on and it would go to 93%. 12 hours later, after two text messages and two voice mails, Im at 70%. Sure my up time was 19 hrs, but my awake time was 40 minutes max. So basically you need to keep everything but the essentials off your screens. This is my experience, as im sure there are people out there on 4G 8 hrs a day who come home with 50%+ on their phone.
Can I put apps on those screens so basically no widgets on any screen but the home
Los Altos said:
When you reboot your phone, the only active screen is the home screen. If you long-press the Home button, you will see the other six screens blank. I left the other screens the way they came from the factory and found out that if you even look at them once, they seem to remain active even if they are not being updated.
I was charging my phone before I went to bed, and waking up with 95% (yes I minimized all the background updates). Then I would drive to work with BT on and it would go to 93%. 12 hours later, after two text messages and two voice mails, Im at 70%. Sure my up time was 19 hrs, but my awake time was 40 minutes max. So basically you need to keep everything but the essentials off your screens. This is my experience, as im sure there are people out there on 4G 8 hrs a day who come home with 50%+ on their phone.
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You don't have GPS enabled. That's cheating.
3G (or WiFI, 4G enabled) GPS, auto sync, backlighting, widgets, exchange, twitter, facebook, live wallpaper, all the reasons we bought the phone?! Those should be running at all times. (Otherwise, what exactly is the point? Srsly?)
If the battery life is still 3 hours then I am expecting a phone that hasn't and won't be built for 20 years.
VoXHTC said:
You don't have GPS enabled. That's cheating.
3G (or WiFI, 4G enabled) GPS, auto sync, backlighting, widgets, exchange, twitter, facebook, live wallpaper, all the reasons we bought the phone?! Those should be running at all times. (Otherwise, what exactly is the point? Srsly?)
If the battery life is still 3 hours then I am expecting a phone that hasn't and won't be built for 20 years.
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I think we use our phones very differently. I like those features but I don't have them on all the time. I use the GPS when I need to use a GPS. I look at FB or Twitter when I have time to look at them. Live wallpaper, while cute, doesn't do much for me. Exchange and Gmail push is about all I use regularly.
ExploreMN said:
I think we use our phones very differently. I like those features but I don't have them on all the time. I use the GPS when I need to use a GPS. I look at FB or Twitter when I have time to look at them. Live wallpaper, while cute, doesn't do much for me. Exchange and Gmail push is about all I use regularly.
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I get about the same when I'm working a 10-14. That's with checking exchange email, background sync and data on, sending texts on a normal basis, brightness about 30-40%, checking fb, etc etc. Battery doesn't drain much at all for me while it's sleeping which is great when I'm working these shifts and don't care to bring a charger.
Using GPS with location on and Sprint Navigation will drain that beast though, but that's expected.
ExploreMN said:
I think we use our phones very differently. I like those features but I don't have them on all the time. I use the GPS when I need to use a GPS. I look at FB or Twitter when I have time to look at them. Live wallpaper, while cute, doesn't do much for me. Exchange and Gmail push is about all I use regularly.
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Damn your finely worded post. Now I feel the sudden urge to re-evaluate my obsession with live wallpapers so I don't feel like a lame kid that likes something "cute"
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I had a epic 4g with extended battery 3500 mah and I would constantly use the phone even while at work.. At the end of the day my battery would be at 50%. On my evo 3d I use the phone even more now because its new and my battery would still be 50 % at the end of the day.
Fairly impressed
Doesnt the GPS only draw power if an app is actually using it at the time? So does it matter if you leave it on
Im pretty sure that if you leave your GPS on it will be put into "stand-by" mode, which in effect draws power. I could be wrong tho
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Heres the proof ( sorry about the crappy pic, all i had was my old Hero)
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that aint proof at all
use a program like battery status, that'll actually tell us how long its been since it was off the charger
but even from this, shows your phone doing a lot of sleeping
we'd be more impressed with a lot of battery left after actually USING the phone
I shut everything off that im not using. Only time my battery life sucks is when Im at work and get very low signal. That drains the crap out of the battery.
Plus I use Juice Defender, seems to provide some improvement.
After being unplugged and having used it as I described, after 20 hours I still had 68% of my battery charge. I don't have juice defender, but I made the adjustments I mentioned and the one I forgot to mention is I also turned off location services.
So far I am pretty happy with the battery life, but I also remember with the Epic I had amazing battery life for a month or so and then it was more like what is "average" for that phone. I'm no scientist, but I would guess that brand new lithium batteries do a little better and then when the chemicals start breaking down you lose that "little extra."
Sorry, I guess I should have included two pics. I do have battery status and it showed 5:05 since off the charger. I chose to post the other pic since I thought it meant more in terms of use. Sure it doesn't tell you how I was using it, just that it want sleeping for half of that time. Im not trying to impress anyone, i just thought it was a huge improvement from the past week where 5 hours off charger showed 70% battery left with only 40 minutes of up time (which resulted form a couple of VM and texts). So my point was along the lines of; more use, but huge improvement in battery consumption.
SayWhat10 said:
that aint proof at all
use a program like battery status, that'll actually tell us how long its been since it was off the charger
but even from this, shows your phone doing a lot of sleeping
we'd be more impressed with a lot of battery left after actually USING the phone
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After being unplugged and having used it as I described, after 20 hours I still had 68% of my battery charge. I don't have juice defender, but I made the adjustments I mentioned and the one I forgot to mention is I also turned off location services.
So far I am pretty happy with the battery life, but I also remember with the Epic I had amazing battery life for a month or so and then it was more like what is "average" for that phone. I'm no scientist, but I would guess that brand new lithium batteries do a little better and then when the chemicals start breaking down you lose that "little extra."
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20hours, and almost 70% left?
i say super BS
because you know at that rate you can go almost 3 days with no charge right?
i know the evo 3d battery has bout 150 more mah then the 4G, but c'mon son

[Q] HTC Radar - Battery Life

How's the battery life on the HTC Radar compared to the Lumia 710? if anyone have had hands on experience, that would be appreciated.
I am coming from a Nexus S, will I see an improvement with the Radar?
Thanks!
Best battery life of any smartphone I have ever used.
And I have used :
Toshiba TG01
HTC HD2
HTC Desire
Galaxy S
You will definitely notice the difference.
I've had quite a few Android phones as well as WM6.5 and one WP7 phone - this phone is showing the absolute best battery life out of ANY of them. I'm easily going 24 hours without charging.
Heavy use, sync on, no auto brightness, wifi sharing... Lasts at least 24 hours. Usually dies on 35 hours of use. I carry my charger everywhere, so I use it all the way.
Great, Thanks guys. It's very encouraging to know that this phone can last nearly/over 24 hours. My battery life on my Nexus S can only last 12 hours with brightness set low, background data ON, and 3G (medium-usage). Tired of charging my phone twice per day. Good to know that a single charge on this phone will last me an entire work day.
theguy said:
Best battery life of any smartphone I have ever used.
And I have used :
Toshiba TG01
HTC HD2
HTC Desire
Galaxy S
You will definitely notice the difference.
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JWhipple said:
I've had quite a few Android phones as well as WM6.5 and one WP7 phone - this phone is showing the absolute best battery life out of ANY of them. I'm easily going 24 hours without charging.
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HG! said:
Heavy use, sync on, no auto brightness, wifi sharing... Lasts at least 24 hours. Usually dies on 35 hours of use. I carry my charger everywhere, so I use it all the way.
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Are you guys on 3G or Edge?
AsianXL said:
Are you guys on 3G or Edge?
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4G actually... I keep the WiFi turned on when I am at work (8 hours a day) and at home though.
1 day 15 hours since last charge.
11 hours remaining.
20% left.
Dude this phone has the best battery life I have ever seen. And the only battery saver that I have ever seen actually work too!
OMG If you turn off "As items arrive" and set it to "15 min" in the email settings it does WONDERS for battery life... lol... New discovery for me
Does turning the automatic brightness option on save battery life compared to leaving it at the medium setting?
Thanks!
kikiodead said:
1 day 15 hours since last charge.
11 hours remaining.
20% left.
Dude this phone has the best battery life I have ever seen. And the only battery saver that I have ever seen actually work too!
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Wow nice stats. Were you using the battery saving feature the entire time?
the best battery smartphone i ever used, no problem for 24h with 3G on all time, 2 email accounts, bluetooth on aprox 8 hours, 1-2 h of voice calls, 10-20 sms, 40-50 emails, twitter, facebook from time to time..... best ever for me.... and i own a lot of phones... but i always go back to the radar.
Best battery life really for a smartphone (even if it is a little bit dumb ;-). I am charging it every 4th day!!!
Wifi is ON all the time, phone is minimally used actually (it is at home all the time and I have very poor NW service at home). I just use it to take pics/videos of my kid (camera is great in daylight, relatively poor in dark) and to play some games/install apps or to just generally scroll around. Maybe screen in ON for about 2 hours during the 4 days in between charges. Also few SMS sent/received. Also one hotmail acc and one X-Box account configured and syncing. No FB on this phone yet. Brightness is set to Auto (b default not in battery saver mode). This phone was mainly bought for camera!
My primary phone is the HTC Sensation. In comparison, I need to recharge it every night. At best, if I keep wifi off then can make it to second day (best I ever managed on Sensation was almost 2 days). Have stopped bothering about battery life on Sensation now! I can afford to recharge it every night. Bought Sensation mainly for the gorgeous 4.3 inch screen (good for navigation and browsing).
Previously have also used HTC Touch Diamond. It used to give me 2 days of regular use (without any use it would go on for 3 days). I am not a heavy user actually.
joslicx said:
Best battery life really for a smartphone (even if it is a little bit dumb ;-). I am charging it every 4th day!!!
Wifi is ON all the time, phone is minimally used actually (it is at home all the time and I have very poor NW service at home). I just use it to take pics/videos of my kid (camera is great in daylight, relatively poor in dark) and to play some games/install apps or to just generally scroll around. Maybe screen in ON for about 2 hours during the 4 days in between charges. Also few SMS sent/received. Also one hotmail acc and one X-Box account configured and syncing. No FB on this phone yet. Brightness is set to Auto (b default not in battery saver mode). This phone was mainly bought for camera!
My primary phone is the HTC Sensation. In comparison, I need to recharge it every night. At best, if I keep wifi off then can make it to second day (best I ever managed on Sensation was almost 2 days). Have stopped bothering about battery life on Sensation now! I can afford to recharge it every night. Bought Sensation mainly for the gorgeous 4.3 inch screen (good for navigation and browsing).
Previously have also used HTC Touch Diamond. It used to give me 2 days of regular use (without any use it would go on for 3 days). I am not a heavy user actually.
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why you sayin abit dumb...beg to differ with you
lesnjoro said:
why you sayin abit dumb...beg to differ with you
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what is dumb about what i said???
that battery stats or usage stats? the phone is actually used by my wife who uses it only when we go out. At home we have a landline connection which is very cheap to use compared to a mobile. She is not working so is at home most of the time. she is not a geek (is a doctor actually) and doesnt have FB page (she finds FB too technical!!!). The phone indeed gives us 4 days of minimalistic use (the use is either taking pics of our kid or me playing with it!) right now the battery stats say 39% charge remaining, time since last charge 2 days 6 hours and still can go for 1d9h! If you dont want to believe that be my guest.
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what is dumb about what i said???
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I think he was referring to what you said in your original post about it being a smartphone and you wrote even if it is a bit dumb.
He was asking why you think its a bit dumb. At least that's the way I read it.
Great battery life on this thing for sure though
xda45 said:
I think he was referring to what you said in your original post about it being a smartphone and you wrote even if it is a bit dumb.
He was asking why you think its a bit dumb. At least that's the way I read it.
Great battery life on this thing for sure though
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Oh I get it. Well the OS is a bit dumb really. Some simple and useful features missing and the Zune dependency. But the dumbest of the lot is this feature whereby the phone automatically switches off wifi to save battery when the phone goes to standby! So if you started downloading any app and while download if phone goes to standby then the download fails and you need to restart from the beginning again! Its irksome coz this means to download you need to keep the screen on. I found it dumb really!
xda45 said:
I think he was referring to what you said in your original post about it being a smartphone and you wrote even if it is a bit dumb.
He was asking why you think its a bit dumb. At least that's the way I read it.
Great battery life on this thing for sure though
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this is exactly what i meant,
cheers @xda45
I'm just amazed at the battery life on this thing... I've been going for 2 days straight and haven't plugged in yet. It's low (though I can't tell how low, but the meter is pretty thin), but I'm trying to see how long before I get some sort of "plug your phone in!" warning.
One caveat, I have a strong wifi signal at home, which is where I was for the entire weekend - so that obviously helps. But still...
I have to say this is a VERY impressive phone. Battery life is spectacular compared to any single android phone I've ever used. Any android phone I've used would die around 8 hours of moderate usage, and with this Radar it can last practically the entire day.
The simplicity of the phone does leave a bit to be desired, but I'll take it when the phone can last an entire day without worrying about the battery life. More apps will come in due time.

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