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Hi guys,
Unless you hit the back button or hit menu then save, your changes to any notes are not saved.
This is a pretty big issue in my opinion.
Use cases where you lose data:
1- Hit the home button, you can no longer get back to your note.
2- Open another app through notifications and continue using your phone. Sometimes you can hit back to get back to the app and your note is still there (you will still need to save it though), other times it is impossible to get back to.
I want to love the notes app, but this, combined with no tagging is really annoying me.
kaze00 said:
Hi guys,
Unless you hit the back button or hit menu then save, your changes to any notes are not saved.
This is a pretty big issue in my opinion.
Use cases where you lose data:
1- Hit the home button, you can no longer get back to your note.
2- Open another app through notifications and continue using your phone. Sometimes you can hit back to get back to the app and your note is still there (you will still need to save it though), other times it is impossible to get back to.
I want to love the notes app, but this, combined with no tagging is really annoying me.
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The Notes have an auto-save function... noticed this yesterday. But I couldn't tell you the increment. I thought if you opened Notes from the application drawer you could see a list of notes.
As for tagging, you're right the app natively does not tag. Evernote does allow you to tag. And I think HTC intended for notes to be associated with calendar items... which I haven't decided is a good thing or not.
I forgot about the auto save, that annoys the hell out of me too. Writing writing writing, auto save, breaks flow for 5 seconds.
But I suppose with that, at most you will lose a few minutes of writing if you leave without saving.
kaze00 said:
I forgot about the auto save, that annoys the hell out of me too. Writing writing writing, auto save, breaks flow for 5 seconds.
But I suppose with that, at most you will lose a few minutes of writing if you leave without saving.
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LOL... what's your perfect mode? A manual onscreen button to hit?
My perfect mode is...
Save whenever the page leaves the screen....
Save when the screen turns off...
Or if they really want to autosave so you don't lose stuff if there's a crash, don't use a banana modal dialog while I'm in the middle of writing.
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Or if they really want to autosave so you don't lose stuff if there's a crash, don't use a banana modal dialog while I'm in the middle of writing.
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Haha... agreed.
Also, another thing to be concerned about is using the notes offline. I created a note and added a bunch of pictures and text while not connected to WiFi. When I reconnected, I think it choked and started crashing the Notes app. When the error report came up, that crashed as well so I couldn't send the feedback. So, I figured another way to remedy the error was to un-do then re-do the sync.
That unfortunately deleted my note... never to be heard from again! I did send an email to HTC to see if it was stored locally and see if there is a way to get it back. I'll keep you updated.
I read an online review that complained that scrolling in Notes became painfully slow when there are more than two pages of writings. Is that true ? I certainly hope not ...
I wouldn't call it painfully slow, but its not smooth with several pages of notes and pictures.
I use the back button predominantly. The home button to multitask or switch between apps. I would like to see the next rev save automatically when leaving the app also.
The lack of this feature isn't as major to me. Just learn to use the "save" button at the bottom of the screen.
Just ran into an issue where the app crashed while saving a note, and now I see the saving icon on top of the note, and if I click it nothing happens except I occasionally get a toast that says saving. I tried rebooting too. Going to try moving it around on the desktop and see what happens after a sync.
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Update, editing on my PC by moving and changing the title seem to fix it.
Update from HTC regarding using notes offline and trying to sync an bunch of pictures and notes:
I understand that you would like to know if there is a way to retrieve a note that was apparently deleted from your HTC Flyer before it was able to sync. I tried to duplicate this issue by disabling Wi-Fi, creating four new notes with pictures, then reenabling Wi-Fi and attempting to sync but I was unable to replicate the issue. Your best bet for seeing if the notes are still cached somewhere would be to download a file explorer, such as Astro, Linda or ES File Explorer and search the contents. You may want start by looking under SD Card> .data> HTC Notes or if you know the name of the file you lost, try searching by the file name using the file explorer.
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Update: TexTab has been released in the market! Thanks to everyone who participated in the beta. Download links:
- Full Version
- Lite Version
TexTab is an SMS app for Android tablets. It allows you to connect your Android 2.1+ tablet to your Android 2.1+ phone over Bluetooth and send/receive SMS messages on your tablet as if you were sending them from your phone.
I've been working on this app for some time now and I feel that it is ready for public beta testing. I encourage everybody to download and install the app on both your phone and tablet, and please provide feedback here.
App Features:
- Honeycomb optimized, though not required
- Push menu button to connect devices via bluetooth, with option to select a device to automatically connect to in settings
- Conversation threads use your Google contact information to display contact info
- Widget with button to enable/disable service, and displays connection information
Known Bugs:
- Messages not saving to outbox on some devices
- Sometimes unable to connect from one device. Seems to fix after turning bluetooth off then on, on OTHER device.
- Delivery reports are not always reliable, when messages are sent or received very quickly
- Visual issues/ghosting when using Swype keyboard in portrait orientation
- Performance issues on Samsung Galaxy Tab 7"
Future Development/Requested Features:
- New layout for 7" tablets
- Wifi functionality for increased range
- UI improvements
- Option to sync contacts with phone rather than cloud
- Sync sms history with phone
- Option to mute phone notifications
- Mark incoming messages as "read" on phone
- Popup dialog on received message when app is not in foreground
- MMS support
- Ability to use existing SMS app (GoSMS, Handcent, etc) to send/receive messages on ANOTHER phone
- suggestions?
Installation and Use:
Download the attached zip file and extract it somewhere on your computer. Copy the extracted file, TexTab.apk, onto both of your devices. Find the .apk file using File Manager or your favourite file browser and run it on both devices to install. Once installed, you can access it like any other app, and you can long-press on the homescreen to add the widget.
Once in the app, push the menu button to connect to a paired bluetooth device. If your devices are not paired, simply make one of them discoverable using Menu Button > Make Discoverable and then on the other device use Menu Button > Connect a Device > Scan for Devices to pair the two devices and establish a connection.
Once a connection is established, the devices should show their proper views. If not, click the settings button and change the Device Type. Under settings, you can also select the option to automatically connect to a paired device on startup. You can also enable or disable the bluetooth service under settings, or by using the button on the widget.
To send a message, either type a phone number into the Phone Number... field, or tap the Send To... button to choose a contact from the cloud. Type the message in the Enter a Message... field and tap send. Received messages will automatically show up as long as the app is enabled.
I look forward to any feedback/bug reports/praise/insults you may have!
Changelog:
See attached text file
This sounds awesome! Thanks a lot man.
Could you maybe throw up some instructions for everyone...
Edit: works great so far. Looking foward to the updates!
I updated the OP with installation and usage instructions. Let me know if they're not clear!
Cant wait to give this a try! Awesome
Will deffinately try this, sounds like what I've been looking for!
You say Future Development for WiFi, 2 ways I could suggest to have that.
1) If the tab is tethered to the phone for data (this is how I get my WiFi only tab to have data at work)
2) If they are on the same WiFi network, say I'm at home. Phone is connected to home WiFi and tab is connected to home WiFi.
Just some thoughts
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Ok, tried it out and thats pretty cool! I like how the message shows up on the phone and the tab. Is there a way to pull down recient conversations (say from the last 24 hours) incase you wanted to continue a previous conversation? Also, if read on the tab or phone, could it show read on the other device?
wingman1487 said:
If they are on the same WiFi network, say I'm at home. Phone is connected to home WiFi and tab is connected to home WiFi.
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This is exactly how the wifi support will work. It will still require the connect to device step, but the range will be limited by your wifi network rather than your phones bluetooth signal.
wingman1487 said:
Is there a way to pull down recient conversations (say from the last 24 hours) incase you wanted to continue a previous conversation? Also, if read on the tab or phone, could it show read on the other device?
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I've toyed with the idea of syncing sms history with a contact, unfortunately though any operations which involve using sms history are unsupported in the Android SDK and could break my app in the future. Marking a message as read is subject to the same problem. I'll look into it some more.
I appreciate the feedback, keep it coming!
I wanna suggest something, look at the app called texter, and the chrome app, then take a look have they work. They work by signing in on your google account on an app on the android phone, and the signing in at the same account on chrome, npw you can sms from chrome throw your phone and recive them, no matter where your phone is, it just need 3g connetion. This is like chrometophone. If you could get it working in this way it would be awsome! And the ofc still the bluetooth or something other when the tab not have internet connection
Loving this app so far, just wanted to report a bug. When a new contact sends a text, it seems to duplicate the view of prior conversations. I have one conversation that's up to three alternate views!
Edit: After a reboot, the duplicates disappeared.
Fisken said:
npw you can sms from chrome throw your phone and recive them, no matter where your phone is, it just need 3g connetion.
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I will look into this, thanks!
cekle said:
When a new contact sends a text, it seems to duplicate the view of prior conversations. I have one conversation that's up to three alternate views!
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Thanks, added it to the list. As a temporary fix, tapping the settings button and then tapping back will reload the contacts list and they should disappear.
Also I can't seem to delete conversations by long pressing. Is there another way?
I haven't implemented this. I'll consider it a feature suggestion! Are you wanting to delete specific messages within a thread, or whole thread for a contact?
I was actually working on something exactly like this. I did not end up getting much work done though. If you would like any help, just let me know.
Dude, your App is awesome ! ive searched for days for something like this. the only other option is syncsms and that one doesnt support "push", only "all 5 min sync". But your solution via bluetooth is just awesome
ive allready installed it on 5 different transformers for my friends. we are all very happy and would like to donate for your work.
As soon as your App is final, you should totaly put it on market for 1-2$ or more. you will be rich buddy !
Greetings from Germany, keep up the good work. ive allready bookmarked your thread =)
PS: Could you implement the function to mute the notification sound?
smaskell said:
I was actually working on something exactly like this. I did not end up getting much work done though. If you would like any help, just let me know.
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I won't name any names, but there is at least one other implementation of this idea. My app goes about it a little bit differently.
Deadwalk said:
ive allready installed it on 5 different transformers for my friends. we are all very happy and would like to donate for your work.
As soon as your App is final, you should totaly put it on market for 1-2$ or more. you will be rich buddy !
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Thanks! I'm glad you like it. It will eventually be a paid app on the market, but not until I feel its complete enough to justify charging money.
Deadwalk said:
PS: Could you implement the function to mute the notification sound?
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Adding it to the list.
howettl said:
I haven't implemented this. I'll consider it a feature suggestion! Are you wanting to delete specific messages within a thread, or whole thread for a contact?
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Just a contact thread. Specific messages would be a good option if you want this to be a full fledged texting app, but then the deletion wouldn't propogate to the phone without some magic. If this app is intended to be a messenger though, an extension of the phone when the tablet just so happens to be around, I'd like the ability to keep that interface clean and current so its not bogged down with out of date texts.
Edit: Keeping with the 'extension of the phone' idea, you could have an option to clear the text database after a certain amount of time disconnected from a device.
a friend of mine just told me that his phone is acting wierd.
he installed the app and send me 5 texts over his pad and i got them all. but his phone wont show what he wrote and in his phone there are only the sms from me and not his. we both use the lg optimus 2x.
and also his phone send 2 sms to the number "555555555" with text "default body". right after he installed the app and tried to send texts over his pad.
any idea?
Deadwalk said:
a friend of mine just told me that his phone is acting wierd.
he installed the app and send me 5 texts over his pad and i got them all. but his phone wont show what he wrote and in his phone there are only the sms from me and not his. we both use the lg optimus 2x.
and also his phone send 2 sms to the number "555555555" with text "default body". right after he installed the app and tried to send texts over his pad.
any idea?
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I have an idea about what's happening here. As I mentioned in an earlier post, any operations that involve your phones SMS history are unsupported in the Android SDK. It sounds like your particular phone model doesn't access SMS history in the same way as other phones, so the app is unable to save sent messages in your phones SMS history.
The number "5555555555" and "default body" are used when there is a problem saving the data to your phone. The phone was told that a message was sent to that number; but no SMS was actually sent.
I'll try and find a workaround for this phone.
Do other people using this phone model have the same problem? Or any other LG phone?
No one else have that issue.
we both use the same lg and we both use a modaco rom. the only difference is, iam using modaco version ~16 and he version ~19. so the problem should lie in the difference of that roms. he just got furios because he tought the app had send 2 sms to a pricy number...
after reading your explanation we saw that everytime he sends a text to me he got a 55555555 sms with default body, so its realy the fact that his phone cant save the textmessage into the threaded sms history. its send, but not saved. on the other hand it flawlessly work on my phone. i can send a text on my pad and see it almost directly on my phone in the threaded history. funny tho =) now we're gonna flash his phone to another rom.
i'll keep an eye on this thread. it would be realy cool if you would mention it somewhere when u think u found a workarround. we will test it then =)
ah and we found another bug just now. when i want to write a new sms to contactB i have no choice to choose the number to send. so my girlfriend for example have 3 different numbers, and the app want to use the first number of the contact, in this situation its her home number.. no way to send a sms to that one ^^
Deadwalk said:
No one else have that issue.
we both use the same lg and we both use a modaco rom. the only difference is, iam using modaco version ~16 and he version ~19. so the problem should lie in the difference of that roms. he just got furios because he tought the app had send 2 sms to a pricy number...
after reading your explanation we saw that everytime he sends a text to me he got a 55555555 sms with default body, so its realy the fact that his phone cant save the textmessage into the threaded sms history. its send, but not saved. on the other hand it flawlessly work on my phone. i can send a text on my pad and see it almost directly on my phone in the threaded history. funny tho =) now we're gonna flash his phone to another rom.
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Thanks for the clarification. It must be an incompatibility with the rom then.
I'll repeat for clarity: when you see a message to the number "5555555555" its simply a problem with the phone not saving the information properly. An SMS has NOT been sent to this number.
Please let me know if flashing a different rom fixes the problem!
I use a pretty cool windows mobile app called Note2Self - it records a quick thought, then emails it to you so it will be in your inbox. One problem is that if it is set to email right away, the app will pause for a good minute while it connects to your SMTP server and send the email. So, this was a pain if you wanted to make multiple recordings one right after another. The solution is to have the app instead place the email in the "outbox" of activesync. This way the emails are stored right away (without sending them until you dock with your PC).
But, I just found out that if there are any emails in activesync's "outbox" and then I run Clrcd/Haret.exe to launch Android. Then reboot back into Windows mobile - ALL of the email in the AS outbox are gone!
I also discovered that any recently received or sent SMS/Text messages your had before the boot into Android will also me missing when you reboot back into windows mobile.
It seems the CEmail.vol file is "forgetting" these messages when android is run.
Anybody have a fix for this?
Wrong session dude wrong session, it must posted on general q& answer
imanh said:
Wrong session dude wrong session, it must posted on general q& answer
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Since this issue is only applicable to "SD Development" (and not applicable to "NAND" or "Themes"), that is why I thought this would be the appropriate spot.
JohnCody said:
Since this issue is only applicable to "SD Development" (and not applicable to "NAND" or "Themes"), that is why I thought this would be the appropriate spot.
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but this has absolutely nothing to do with development
JohnCody said:
I use a pretty cool windows mobile app called Note2Self - it records a quick thought, then emails it to you so it will be in your inbox. One problem is that if it is set to email right away, the app will pause for a good minute while it connects to your SMTP server and send the email. So, this was a pain if you wanted to make multiple recordings one right after another. The solution is to have the app instead place the email in the "outbox" of activesync. This way the emails are stored right away (without sending them until you dock with your PC).
But, I just found out that if there are any emails in activesync's "outbox" and then I run Clrcd/Haret.exe to launch Android. Then reboot back into Windows mobile - ALL of the email in the AS outbox are gone!
I also discovered that any recently received or sent SMS/Text messages your had before the boot into Android will also me missing when you reboot back into windows mobile.
It seems the CEmail.vol file is "forgetting" these messages when android is run.
Anybody have a fix for this?
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People are indeed rude. what Winmo rom are you using cause i dont have that problem. i wish my messages would disappear i hate alot of messages stored or kept i like to have everything cleared. but maybe its the windows build you are using.
[email protected] said:
People are indeed rude. what Winmo rom are you using cause i dont have that problem. i wish my messages would disappear i hate alot of messages stored or kept i like to have everything cleared. but maybe its the windows build you are using.
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I am using NRGz28 Energy ROm 6/1/2011:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
I seems that the lost often happens with an emails in Outlook's (ActiveSync's) "Outbox" and any Text messages in the SMS/MMS "inbox". If any messages are in there, then booting into Android using clr/haret then rebooting back into WM6 will loose those messages
Hi,
i experienced the same problem often when i started (SD-)Android from my WinMo stock rom. Later, when i reboot into WinMo i can see, that it losts the last mails and SMS.
I made some tests and my solution is simple: When you want to start Android, shut down your WinMo and start it again and then start Android! (When you press and hold your bottom right On/Off-button, you can shut down the device and then all datas will be saved.)
The problem with the Android-bootloaders (or the using of CLRCAD.exe and HARET.exe) seems to be, that they not regular shutdown WinMo before Android starts. Its only like a Softreset. And then unstored datas get lost.
It's the same way like you want to shut down your Windows-PC. You dont just pull the power plug but you choose "Start / Shutdown" and wait till it finishes to save all datas.
Hope, that helps.
Btw: sorry for my poor english...
Spiogent said:
Hi,
i experienced the same problem often when i started (SD-)Android from my WinMo stock rom. Later, when i reboot into WinMo i can see, that it losts the last mails and SMS.
I made some tests and my solution is simple: When you want to start Android, shut down your WinMo and start it again and then start Android! (When you press and hold your bottom right On/Off-button, you can shut down the device and then all datas will be saved.)
The problem with the Android-bootloaders (or the using of CLRCAD.exe and HARET.exe) seems to be, that they not regular shutdown WinMo before Android starts. Its only like a Softreset. And then unstored datas get lost.
It's the same way like you want to shut down your Windows-PC. You dont just pull the power plug but you choose "Start / Shutdown" and wait till it finishes to save all datas.
Hope, that helps.
Btw: sorry for my poor english...
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Try mskip android loader. I don't have Winmo 6.5 any more (moved to MAGLDR) but from memory mskip has shortcuts you can add to your home screen to either launch Android straight away (it runs CLRCAD and HARET for you), or reboot and launch into Android automatically (which would solve your problem!)
Hope this helps.
aww ****, this happened to me just on sun night! i was wondering wth was going on. i even use the mskip app so what am i doing that somehow made my msgs disappear? damn, i really prefer the 3 sec option. i guess i got to get rid of it and select none.
but i have used that option for a long time now and this is the first time that i have encountered this problem.
knote said:
aww ****, this happened to me just on sun night! i was wondering wth was going on. i even use the mskip app so what am i doing that somehow made my msgs disappear? damn, i really prefer the 3 sec option. i guess i got to get rid of it and select none.
but i have used that option for a long time now and this is the first time that i have encountered this problem.
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Hmmmm... I dunno mate. As my sig says, I don't have Winmo any more so I can't test it.
Sorry.
I updated to jelly bean last week. It came with talk back. trying everything I can think of, I have come to the conclusion that if anything else in accessibility is on, talk back come on too. I have a pebble watch, an love it. But when either it, or pebble notifier, it light wave is on, then the blasted voice tells me everything I am doing. It's very annoying. I tried stopping talkback with system tuner, which led to even worse problems. (like no touch screen function except with the s-pen.) Does anyone know how to get rid of talk back? Thanks in advance.
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I updated to jelly bean last week. It came with talk back. trying everything I can think of, I have come to the conclusion that if anything else in accessibility is on, talk back come on too. I have a pebble watch, an love it. But when either it, or pebble notifier, it light wave is on, then the blasted voice tells me everything I am doing. It's very annoying. I tried stopping talkback with system tuner, which led to even worse problems. (like no touch screen function except with the s-pen.) Does anyone know how to get rid of talk back? Thanks in advance.
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Root your phone, download an app for deleting system apps. delete it.
You can find how to root your phone in the development forums. Make sure you do it for the correct version of andriod ie:4.1.2
chainmaileguy said:
I updated to jelly bean last week. It came with talk back. trying everything I can think of, I have come to the conclusion that if anything else in accessibility is on, talk back come on too. I have a pebble watch, an love it. But when either it, or pebble notifier, it light wave is on, then the blasted voice tells me everything I am doing. It's very annoying. I tried stopping talkback with system tuner, which led to even worse problems. (like no touch screen function except with the s-pen.) Does anyone know how to get rid of talk back? Thanks in advance.
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Disable it in settings/application manager/all applications. Find talkback and select uninstall updates. After updates are uninstalled go back into talkback from application manager, select force stop, then disable.
Right! Never delete a system app until you have disabled it or froze it with TiBU, then tested your phone fir a day or so. You never know how or what those apps are connected to.
chainmaileguy said:
I updated to jelly bean last week. It came with talk back. trying everything I can think of, I have come to the conclusion that if anything else in accessibility is on, talk back come on too. I have a pebble watch, an love it. But when either it, or pebble notifier, it light wave is on, then the blasted voice tells me everything I am doing. It's very annoying. I tried stopping talkback with system tuner, which led to even worse problems. (like no touch screen function except with the s-pen.) Does anyone know how to get rid of talk back? Thanks in advance.
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Settings/accessibility/talkback/turn off or configure options from there.
rangercaptain said:
Right! Never delete a system app until you have disabled it or froze it with TiBU, then tested your phone fir a day or so. You never know how or what those apps are connected to.
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True. Thats why I tried to disable it. And google text to speech. And Samsung text to speech. Each one stops it for a while. Then it comes back on even though it shows it is disabled. Its enough to make you start pulling out your hair.
If it says it is off then you are experiencing something else. What speech are you getting?
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If it says it is off then you are experiencing something else. What speech are you getting?
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Whenever I turn a page. Which page of apps or widgets I am on.ect. I disabled all three. Then powered down the pbone. When it came back up, it has the talkback hand up I the top bar. Says it is on. Yet it doesn't even show up in settings/accasabilities menu. I'm stumped.
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Whenever I turn a page. Which page of apps or widgets I am on.ect. I disabled all three. Then powered down the pbone. When it came back up, it has the talkback hand up I the top bar. Says it is on. Yet it doesn't even show up in settings/accasabilities menu. I'm stumped.
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For me the issue was being caused by that fact that I have NoLED turned on in Accessibility. And it's a known issue with the developer of NoLED because he has a FAQ item about it. The best I've been able to do is get the talkback completely silent by disabling Talkback, Google Text to Speech and Samsung TTS. NoLED still works, and the nagging voice is gone, the only unwanted artifact is the HAND icon of Talkback that continues to show up in the Notification bar even though it's not running. I can live with that way easier than hearing that silly voice telling me everything I was doing.
For what it's worth I think the guides provided concerning rooting and rom upgrades for this phone are not as explicit or clearly written as they could be. Kudos to those who took time to do and provide what's there, and I realize that they've most likely moved on to newer devices, but even though I've rooted most of my devices in the past and am not a complete noob I did not feel comfortable using the provided instructions on this device. I haven't bricked a device yet, and don't want to start with this one.
Well, I'm not running no led. Whenever any of the services I use are active (pebble, or pepple notifier) are activated, talkback is activated. Like you, I have rpoted every device up to this one. Not really scared of bricking it. Just not sure a new rom would help. Contacted samsung, and was told it was a hardware problem. Like I'm an idiot. Obviously its in the software. Just not sure if it is samsung specific. Guess I'll just keep bumbling along with this work around.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda app-developers app
Tref said:
... the only unwanted artifact is the HAND icon of Talkback that continues to show up in the Notification bar even though it's not running ...
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FYI. You can get rid of the Talkback icon after each reboot by opening the notification bar, touch and hold Talkback, pick App Info, this will open into Settings App Info (for some reason), pick force stop and then the icon is gone until the next reboot.
holmanm said:
FYI. You can get rid of the Talkback icon after each reboot by opening the notification bar, touch and hold Talkback, pick App Info, this will open into Settings App Info (for some reason), pick force stop and then the icon is gone until the next reboot.
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Thanks. However, every time I have force stoped it, my touch screen will only work with the stylus. Touch input goes dead. And sometimes the touch alignment goes so that when you touch in one place, it refesters somewhere else. Guess I'll just live with the hand.
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FYI. You can get rid of the Talkback icon after each reboot by opening the notification bar, touch and hold Talkback, pick App Info, this will open into Settings App Info (for some reason), pick force stop and then the icon is gone until the next reboot.
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Thanks. However, every time I have force stoped it, my touch screen will only work with the stylus. Touch input goes dead. And sometimes the touch alignment goes so that when you touch in one place, it refesters somewhere else. Guess I'll just live with the hand.
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This whole Talkback feature appears to be filled with issues. I think I'll live with the hand (and not talk to it, lol), rather than risk more complications and further issue. So far I like Jellybean, but I hope that the next version of Android on Samsung devices fixes these issues.
As an aside, another thing that took me by surprise was the use of a new mountpoint for the external SD card. It took me a bit to figure out why /sdcard/external_sd was empty of files, but Music and other apps were able to see the data I had on the card. It's been awhile since my days as a UNIX SA and it dawned on me, literally in the middle of the night that perhaps the OS was using a different mountpoint. I was very relieved to find it under /storage/extSdCard and that my data was both there and able to be used.
chainmaileguy said:
Thanks. However, every time I have force stoped it, my touch screen will only work with the stylus. Touch input goes dead. And sometimes the touch alignment goes so that when you touch in one place, it refesters somewhere else. Guess I'll just live with the hand.
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Did you uninstall TalkBack (using something like Titanium BackUp) and not just disable it? If so, when you pick App Info from the Talkback notification does it open up the "Settings Version 4.1.2-I717UCMD3" app? If not It might be that we have different apps installed causing a different app to come up. If this is the case, would you mind trying going into Settings, Application Manager, All, Settings (the one with "Version 4.1.2-I717UCMD3", I have 2 Settings apps) and force stop that and see if that works.
I never uninstalled talkback. Since i haven't bothered rooting. forced stop defiantly gave me headaches, so I settled for stopping the text to speech of google and samsung. Running android 4.1.2. Ive seen on other posts where this is a samsung issue, and hopefully they are working on it. Looks like we have the same versions. Baseband i717ucmd3 with android version 4.1.2 \. Build # JZO54k.i717ucmd3. Force stopping just screws up my touchscreen, so I'll leave it enabled for now. Maybe Samsung will fix it, but I won't be holding my breath....
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Right! Never delete a system app until you have disabled it or froze it with TiBU, then tested your phone fir a day or so. You never know how or what those apps are connected to.
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I too have a Pebble, and have had the issue with talkback showing up on every reboot. I had seen that it was a Samsung issue, so all I do is get rid of it on reboots. Just turn your Pebble Notifier, or I think any other accessibility app, off then back on. This will get rid of the hand, and thus far I have not had it talk to me at all. But I am running Padawan currently, so YMMV. To turn things off and on, just select the talkback notification from the bar to get into accessibility settings.
I ended up rooting for a couple of reasons. I had already frozen Google Text to Speech, Samsung Text to Speech, or whatever it's called, and the Talkback app but still had the hand. After rooting I was able to tap on Talkback in the pull down notification screen and turn off notifications of it. Strange that is was still there, but it worked and the hand hasn't been back.
Hi there! I'm having some doubts about the phone, switching between apps forces app refresh, even if I switch only for a couple of seconds. If I was filling up a form and had to check something in another app (let's say a bank app), everything I completed resets itself. If I was using a browser, leave it for a couple of seconds, come back, it refreshes the website (spending data and time). Any way to make it better? A really fast phone but this is bothering me.
Here is a video I recorded to show what I mean.
https://youtu.be/b_wrBgJrS4M
Tried limiting 4 background process as someone suggested me but it didn't change behavior.
Thanks!
McMacri said:
Hi there! I'm having some doubts about the phone, switching between apps forces app refresh, even if I switch only for a couple of seconds. If I was filling up a form and had to check something in another app (let's say a bank app), everything I completed resets itself. If I was using a browser, leave it for a couple of seconds, come back, it refreshes the website (spending data and time). Any way to make it better? A really fast phone but this is bothering me.
Here is a video I recorded to show what I mean.
https://youtu.be/b_wrBgJrS4M
Tried limiting 4 background process as someone suggested me but it didn't change behavior.
Thanks!
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I think you should add wanted application to App protection (actually you have to remove them from the list of "killable" applications, they will appear in Disabled auto cleaning part).
You will find those settings in Phone Manager > Power saving management > App protection.
If you want all applications to be kept you should disable Ultra-long standby during sleep.
Let me know if it has worked.
xavihernandez said:
I think you should add wanted application to App protection (actually you have to remove them from the list of "killable" applications, they will appear in Disabled auto cleaning part).
You will find those settings in Phone Manager > Power saving management > App protection.
If you want all applications to be kept you should disable Ultra-long standby during sleep.
Let me know if it has worked.
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Yessssss! That did it, you are a god among men!
All the browsers keep refreshing when I get back to them, do you have any tip for that? I know its something they just do, but perhaps you know
McMacri said:
Yessssss! That did it, you are a god among men!
All the browsers keep refreshing when I get back to them, do you have any tip for that? I know its something they just do, but perhaps you know
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Nothing more sorry, thought that adding borwsers to "don't kill" list would stop theses refresh. Maybe it's the way your browsers are designed. Try others to compare.
I tried a couple of browsers, opera, chrome, dolphin, they all do the same, the only that kind of works are the bubble type browsers but I don't find them stable enough. Oh well, if you think of something let me know, for now I'm grateful you could help me the way you did.
McMacri said:
I tried a couple of browsers, opera, chrome, dolphin, they all do the same, the only that kind of works are the bubble type browsers but I don't find them stable enough. Oh well, if you think of something let me know, for now I'm grateful you could help me the way you did.
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Well really weird
Btw just an update, I installed the USA .16s version and its a really nice improvement over the Chinese .14 that I had, now I can see my phone using the ram as intended, the old rom always had 1 - 1.6gb free and cleaning the memory all the time.