Ok, I know this has been asked many times in various different formats but I am writing this because I haven't found a definitive answer.
I am using MCR 3.0. My SD card is partitioned correctly. I have 18 apps installed which has left me with 105mb available on internal storage.
From what I have read, people that say APPS2SD work, have 100's of apps installed and are sitting on about 120mb available on internal.
So, I can only assume that APPS2SD isn't doing what it's supposed to.
So my question is, is having 105mb free on internal with 18 apps installed normal?
Can someone please confirm the correct order to do things. Lets assume I am rooted and have recovery and just bought a new SD card and I want to install MCR 3.0. What is the order to do things? Partition card 1st? Install MCR 1st? Wipe (What wipe)?
Thanks in advance
I have 85mb of internal left with apps2sd. I think each program must put something onto the internal memory as. I maybe wrong, but what other explanation is there?
Bear in mind though that peep, google maps, browser, email all use space with their cache. Try clearing them all see if you regain any more memory..
P.S i have about 140 apps installed.
At one point I had 507 apps installed on my phone with 35Mb free.........
I have since cleared it down and now have 74 installed with 85Mb free. So yes, it seems there are still SOME files that are loaded to the phone.
Amdathlonuk said:
At one point I had 507 apps installed on my phone with 35Mb free.........
I have since cleared it down and now have 74 installed with 85Mb free. So yes, it seems there are still SOME files that are loaded to the phone.
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Mmm yes thats what i thought too...
So it would seem I'm ok with only 18 apps installed and 105mb free? I don't have google maps or any really big apps installed so I still think that I should have more free space on internal.
It kind of sucks a bit if apps2sd still stores info on internal memory. My last phone was a diamond and it was simple, you had the choice of where you wanted to install apps (internal or sd), would be handy with the hero.
I have about 110 apps installed and 35mb free. I see no problem with my Hero yet, maybe I'm just lucky!?
But, as a customer I'd like to see a phone were I take the SIM and memory card with me to a new phone and nothing changes. I mean iPhone comes close to this with OTA updates, but SERIOUSLY, this is how Linux is supposed to work, right!? Your home directory is where ever you wan't it to be and whatever happens to the system is irrelevant. So I wonder what Google did to complete **** UP with this idea in Android
Come on.. all I wan't is to take my SIM and memory card to a new phone and everything should be just like in the old phone!! Technically this is trivial!
whenever a application is installed, it will generate a .dex in /data/dalvik-cache ,
and lib, user preference etc. into /data/data,
also, google map, market etc. those stuff store cache in /data partition,
so storage size decrease as applications are installed to sd is just a normal habit.!
You may move data/data to ext3 /4 partition as well as dalvik cache by symlink
but not suggested, it would just make the phone running slower.
tempo10 said:
whenever a application is installed, it will generate a .dex in /data/dalvik-cache ,
and lib, user preference etc. into /data/data,
also, google map, market etc. those stuff store cache in /data partition,
so storage size decrease as applications are installed to sd is just a normal habit.!
You may move data/data to ext3 /4 partition as well as dalvik cache by symlink
but not suggested, it would just make the phone running slower.
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Ok, I'm guessing data/data and dalvick cache is read only. So could you explain exactly how to move these folders over to ext3 and to symlink dalvick cache? Would like to try this to see how it runs, I can always do a restore if it's no good.
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Hey! I have a fast, dumb, question! What does each partition do? I wanna partition my new SD card through amon_ra 1.5.2 and it says swap size, ext2 and FAT32 size... what's what! and whats the recommended for an 8gb card class 4
swap is not needed necessarily, it is used to store stuff when ram is going low. fat32 is the part where your music, pictures etc are stored (the part that gets mounted on your pc when you want to copy files), and ext2 is the part where apps2sd stores the apps.
ext2 (or 3 or 4) and fat32 are the filesystems that are created on the partitions, that is why they are called this.
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swap is not needed necessarily, it is used to store stuff when ram is going low. fat32 is the part where your music, pictures etc are stored (the part that gets mounted on your pc when you want to copy files), and ext2 is the part where apps2sd stores the apps.
ext2 (or 3 or 4) and fat32 are the filesystems that are created on the partitions, that is why they are called this.
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i have 1028Ext2, 128swap and the rest is fat32! is that ok?
Shei77 said:
i have 1028Ext2, 128swap and the rest is fat32! is that ok?
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not sure about the order, but basically yes. you don't need swap, and your ext is probably big enough for >3000 apps (read: too big), but as long as you are happy you can leave it that way.
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not sure about the order, but basically yes. you don't need swap, and your ext is probably big enough for >3000 apps (read: too big), but as long as you are happy you can leave it that way.
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really?Lol!
btw are apps supposed to take any "space"? In Modaco 2.9 i lost some internal space on all the apps i installed? is it supposed to take some memory from 100mbs of my htc hero internal memory?If yes, how to remove it, if not, omg modaco 2.9 was bad?
Also is having like 1000 apps making my phone slower? I dont actually have that many, i have 60 i think, if i remove some will it make it any faster?
Also, if i change my ext2 now to like 500mb will it delete any of my current apps or "break" anything?
apps take space from internal memory, search for "apps2sd not working", it is explained in these threads more than enough. you can move the dalvik-cache to the ext partition, then you won't loose any internal space. doesn't seem necessary, i have about 280 apps installed and still 16mb internal left. having the apps does not slow down the phone, only extends the time for first boot after flashing. apps only make the phone slower when they are running, which i control with autostarts.
if you change the ext size partition your apps will be deleted, as will be the rest of the contents of the sdcard. there ways to do it without deleting anything, but frankly, when you need to ask it would be too complicated. would be more effort than make a backup, copy the contents of your sdcard to pc, repartition, copy contents back and restore the backup. that's the way to go btw.
if you uninstalled some/a lot of apps you can regain a few mb by deleting dalvik-cache from recovery. first boot after that may take a while.
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apps take space from internal memory, search for "apps2sd not working", it is explained in these threads more than enough. you can move the dalvik-cache to the ext partition, then you won't loose any internal space. doesn't seem necessary, i have about 280 apps installed and still 16mb internal left. having the apps does not slow down the phone, only extends the time for first boot after flashing. apps only make the phone slower when they are running, which i control with autostarts.
if you change the ext size partition your apps will be deleted, as will be the rest of the contents of the sdcard. there ways to do it without deleting anything, but frankly, when you need to ask it would be too complicated. would be more effort than make a backup, copy the contents of your sdcard to pc, repartition, copy contents back and restore the backup. that's the way to go btw.
if you uninstalled some/a lot of apps you can regain a few mb by deleting dalvik-cache from recovery. first boot after that may take a while.
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so apps shouldnt take ANY internal memory? if they do i should move dalvik-cache from amon_ra or apps2sd?
autostarts btw?
how to remove dalvik-cache from uninstalled apps? aint it supposed to be auto-deleted when i uninstall apps?
Shei77 said:
so apps shouldnt take ANY internal memory? if they do i should move dalvik-cache from amon_ra or apps2sd?
autostarts btw?
how to remove dalvik-cache from uninstalled apps? aint it supposed to be auto-deleted when i uninstall apps?
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they are supposed to take internal space, because they use some space from dalvik-cache. if you move the dalvik-cache to the ext partition of the sdcard then the space is not taken from the internal memory but from the sdcard, obviously...
check the market, with autostarts you can stop applications from being started automatically.
like i said, clear dalvik-cache in recovery image via the menu item and then wait a few minutes for the phone to reboot...
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they are supposed to take internal space, because they use some space from dalvik-cache. if you move the dalvik-cache to the ext partition of the sdcard then the space is not taken from the internal memory but from the sdcard, obviously...
check the market, with autostarts you can stop applications from being started automatically.
like i said, clear dalvik-cache in recovery image via the menu item and then wait a few minutes for the phone to reboot...
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may i ask, how can i move the dalvik-cache to my SD card? i actually want my apps to take NO memory AT ALL on my internal memory..
Guys I need some clarification around app2sd or indeed apps2sd, apps2sd+ etc etc...
Basically whats the differnece? I know some versions only allow certain apps to be moved buts whats the apps2sd+ method ? and how do I go about getting it ?
I dont have masses amounts of apps but my current method (app2sd) only allows certain apps to be moved....I want to move all and app data if poss ?!
cheers in advance
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Guys I need some clarification around app2sd or indeed apps2sd, apps2sd+ etc etc...
Basically whats the differnece? I know some versions only allow certain apps to be moved buts whats the apps2sd+ method ? and how do I go about getting it ?
I dont have masses amounts of apps but my current method (app2sd) only allows certain apps to be moved....I want to move all and app data if poss ?!
cheers in advance
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I am not aware of any apps + data to SD. I must ask though, why are you so keen to move stuff off /data?
Remember that there is no advantage in having lots of free /data space, so you're better making use of it. If you have so many apps that you need the space, then look at apps2sd and dalvik2cache or dalvik2sd, since that stores the dalvik cache onto the SD card too.
Also, what method are you using? You should be using the EXT method rather than the froyo method, as that stores all apps on the SD card, and doesn't listen to the developer's preference about storage.
I don't know what apps2sd+ is that you talk about though, as I don't recognise the term. Do you mean apps2sd + dalvik or something like that?
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I am not aware of any apps + data to SD. I must ask though, why are you so keen to move stuff off /data?
Remember that there is no advantage in having lots of free /data space, so you're better making use of it. If you have so many apps that you need the space, then look at apps2sd and dalvik2cache or dalvik2sd, since that stores the dalvik cache onto the SD card too.
Also, what method are you using? You should be using the EXT method rather than the froyo method, as that stores all apps on the SD card, and doesn't listen to the developer's preference about storage.
I don't know what apps2sd+ is that you talk about though, as I don't recognise the term. Do you mean apps2sd + dalvik or something like that?
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Yeah sorry mate its probably my inexperience on all things android showing here....
Basically Im using the EXT method, 0 swap, 512 ext3 and rest Fat32 i think? coupled with the sam lu version of app2sd and tbh its fine its just I received the latest update for it which now shows which apps are 'phone only' so only really came to light recently....
I currently only have 11 apps 'on SD' with 37 on 'phone only' (maybe 55 apps in total) and wondered if this was normal ? or have I set something up wrong ? Phone memory shows 104.58mb free from 165.75mb....
So approx 1 in 4 apps are being moved to sd shall we say (please dont shoot me other the maths either lol)...surely im going run out space within the next 100 apps if 50 apps to date has used approx 60mb (cant see it happening though as i dont see myself installing that many) or is the majority of the used data used for other processes ?
Just trying to get my head around the whole thing thats all....and was wondering if you could realistically have 200+ apps as mentioned in multiple threads.
And as for the apps2sd+ maybe that was an error in the way i read/interpreted a thread so ignore it....
Irrespective everything works fine, was just curious thats all
Hold on... can you check, as I think your apps are all being held on the SD card just now.
Using a file browser, go to /system/sd and check out the app folder. Compare the contents with /data/app and see if it matches.
Remember the dalvik cache and data use up space, so dalvik2cache or dalvik 2 sd should be next on your list if you want hundreds of apps.
I think you are just getting told apps are on phone when they are on SD, since android can't tell when you are using this apps2sd method or not
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Hold on... can you check, as I think your apps are all being held on the SD card just now.
Using a file browser, go to /system/sd and check out the app folder. Compare the contents with /data/app and see if it matches.
Remember the dalvik cache and data use up space, so dalvik2cache or dalvik 2 sd should be next on your list if you want hundreds of apps.
I think you are just getting told apps are on phone when they are on SD, since android can't tell when you are using this apps2sd method or not
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edit - Right I must have seriously done some thing wrong here? using astro to check /system/sd is empty and there is no /app folder fullstop within /data ? WTF?!
I have just flashed FoydVillain 1.5 but have since restored all apps and got back to a point where I was when I subbed this post...blagged !
Ive gone back to the drawing board and revisited the 'newbie guide to rooting' thread and doubled checked the apps2sd instructions, I want to run the gscript check to see if its set up right but cant find the check.zip file thats mentioned in the guide (says its attached at bottom?! but I cant locate it) where can I get it from otherwise?
cheers
Use the vr wiki article to get the script. Click wiki and search apps2sd.
Did you use a file browser with root BTW?
pulser_g2 said:
Use the vr wiki article to get the script. Click wiki and search apps2sd.
Did you use a file browser with root BTW?
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Cheers Ill have a look today....
Can you expand on 'a file browser with root' though please, I have a file browser and root access but not sure what you mean....
Ta mate
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
Ive managed to run the check script through gscript and apps2sd is working but without dalvik-cache but at least its a start....will now look at sorting that cheers pulser!
I have rooted my optimus one.
just wanna know which are d apps that are neCessary to remain in the phone memory.
so that i cn move rest to sd.
Widgets should remain in the phone memory. Everything else that doesn't run frequently should go to the SD card
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Widgets should remain in the phone memory. Everything else that doesn't run frequently should go to the SD card
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What about keyboards,go sms,maps n youtube??
Oh yea. I forgot about those. Keyboards and go sms. I think it's okay to move youtube and maps onto the sd card
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Oh yea. I forgot about those. Keyboards and go sms. I think it's okay to move youtube and maps onto the sd card
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K.
unable to move maps n youtube.
stil woried abt lockscreen n launchers.
Are you using the stock ROM? Apps that are in /system/app cannot be moved to the SD. If you installed it via downloading/installing from the market or somewhere else, you can move it.
Everything that feels like it should be launched no matter what or those that need to be started quickly on boot, keep it on the phone memory.
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Are you using the stock ROM? Apps that are in /system/app cannot be moved to the SD. If you installed it via downloading/installing from the market or somewhere else, you can move it.
Everything that feels like it should be launched no matter what or those that need to be started quickly on boot, keep it on the phone memory.
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Yeah. m on stock.
did move sum apps to sd via app 2 sd enabler.
Cmon guys I thougjt it was safe to move all sh#t to sd
It's safe. It's just that apps that need to be started on boot must be there as soon as it can. Read and write speeds on the SD card is much slower than on the phone memory.
Well he didnt ask for fast boot
It's not about fast booting It's about getting the things you need as fast as you can. For example, I need a widget to load as fast as it can since it has to be there as soon as the phone boots. That was my point
Everything that you don't use everyday move to SDcard (if possible). If you move favourite apps to SD and you acces them all day long you will shorten the SDcard's life.
I have void with a2sd enabled. So all user applications are on sd. Can I use titanium backup to move some apps to internal memory?
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I have void with a2sd enabled. So all user applications are on sd. Can I use titanium backup to move some apps to internal memory?
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I used Titanium to move a lot of stuff over to the SD from Internal... Stuff in the /system directory doesn't affect your phone's "Internal Storage Space" as reported in the Settings menu since /data and /system are separate partitions. Apart from /system apps, the only thing that I would want to move to the SD that it couldn't move was the PayPal App from the app-private location. Going into ADB wouldn't allow me to do it either.
Titanium also allowed me to uninstall a bunch of the **** that came installed like game demos. This did not free up additional storage space, with the exception of what it removed from Dalvik-Cache. Which, btw is going to be your biggest issue... Some ROM's allow you to move this to the /cache partition, but this is a relatively small partition (~56MB) on this phone and my Dalvik-Cache currently takes up ~90MB.
Pls reply here guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941156
I use app 2 sd to move everything I dont need frequently on SD, than just long press on those program from app 2 sd and Open them.
It's a bit tricky and I dont know other ways (on the home screen most of SD apps wont appear...) but I never had slow opening and the like
Everything was ok till xtesterday.
today i rebooted ma cell,
and all d apps disappeared of sd.
though sd is accessible via file manager,gallery.
i tried formattingsd,cell reset.
bt all in vain.
cant install from file manager.
cant even install from market.
even unable to unmount ma card.
any solution???
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I used Titanium to move a lot of stuff over to the SD from Internal... Stuff in the /system directory doesn't affect your phone's "Internal Storage Space" as reported in the Settings menu since /data and /system are separate partitions. Apart from /system apps, the only thing that I would want to move to the SD that it couldn't move was the PayPal App from the app-private location. Going into ADB wouldn't allow me to do it either.
Titanium also allowed me to uninstall a bunch of the **** that came installed like game demos. This did not free up additional storage space, with the exception of what it removed from Dalvik-Cache. Which, btw is going to be your biggest issue... Some ROM's allow you to move this to the /cache partition, but this is a relatively small partition (~56MB) on this phone and my Dalvik-Cache currently takes up ~90MB.
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I used Titanium again and used it to incorporate the updated GApps into the ROM. I knew that I had about 56MB free on the system partition. Putting Gmail, Maps, Street view, Market and anything else that I could find freed 30MB on the data partition.
Hello.
I have a rooted Motorola XT303 (Motosmart ME) with stock ROM (I think it doesn't have a custom rom yet... I think...), i'm using Link2sd to free some space.
Yesterday when I wanted to download Line it said something like "Not enough Space" and today trying again says "...Error 498".
Then i noticed that the /cache partition is almost full (10mb free or so). I tried everything I know to free that space, like 4 Market Apps (Cache cleaners and 'fixers'), Recovery factory wipe and Cache wipe and nothing...
Is there anyway to fix this?
Thank you for your help, bye!
Hi keishi16, I'm an owner of a XT303...
I recommend that you partition your SD card. With Link2SD application do the links to the partition (currently I have it in FAT32 format). Not simply move them "natively" to SD, because the libraries and other files are stored internally. We also recommend that when you make these links do quick reboot with Link2SD. For some reason the internal memory is "full" when you make the links, but returns to normal when you reboot. I hope that helped you, greetings!
Sorry for bad english, I used Google Translator.:cyclops:
I'm running the latest CM snapshot. I've been getting the infamous "Insufficient Storage Available" error for a while not, usually with chrome. There are various solutions. The "delete /data/app-lib/<app>/lib" solution was working ok for me but I can no longer find chrome in there anymore for some reason. I've already moved every app that can be moved to the "internal" SD card. All the "solutions" are really just workarounds trying to clear space.
Is it possible to increase the size of the partition by re partitioning the internal storage?
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I'm running the latest CM snapshot. I've been getting the infamous "Insufficient Storage Available" error for a while not, usually with chrome. There are various solutions. The "delete /data/app-lib/<app>/lib" solution was working ok for me but I can no longer find chrome in there anymore for some reason. I've already moved every app that can be moved to the "internal" SD card. All the "solutions" are really just workarounds trying to clear space.
Is it possible to increase the size of the partition by re partitioning the internal storage?
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Move some apps to the SD card.
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Move some apps to the SD card.
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I know that apps can be moved to the SD card. That isnt a solution nor my question.
I'm asking of the internal storage can be repartitioned
I'm having the same issue. I desperately need to reparation my phone.
i'm running viper rom with the sdcard swap mode.
i'm now back to getting insufficient memory messages when trying to update apps or sometimes run apps. it shows i still have plenty of free memory... i have been moving apps to sd card and that works for a little while.
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i'm running viper rom with the sdcard swap mode.
i'm now back to getting insufficient memory messages when trying to update apps or sometimes run apps. it shows i still have plenty of free memory...
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You need to look at internal storage, not SD card storage.
So I did system dump today to explore the files on my computer see what's hogging all of my space.
Background: I have only have 13 apps installed.
What I found is that my data/data is 346 MB and my data/delvik-cache is 452 MB.
So the files installed by CM are getting more numerous and of greater size. Not sure what to do to solve this problem.
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So I did system dump today to explore the files on my computer see what's hogging all of my space.
Background: I have only have 13 apps installed.
What I found is that my data/data is 346 MB and my data/delvik-cache is 452 MB.
So the files installed by CM are getting more numerous and of greater size. Not sure what to do to solve this problem.
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same issue here. davlik cache is similar to a cache of your applications so they start faster. So it doesnt matter if you move apps to SD, you'll still have davlik.
Also, many apps will still store data in internal memory eventhough the app itself is on SD. I wish there were a way to move the data.
Or as I initially suggested, re-partitioning.
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same issue here. davlik cache is similar to a cache of your applications so they start faster. So it doesnt matter if you move apps to SD, you'll still have davlik.
Also, many apps will still store data in internal memory eventhough the app itself is on SD. I wish there were a way to move the data.
Or as I initially suggested, re-partitioning.
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well, there isn't ANY easy re-partitioning tool for android out in the wild that i KNOW of ... but, (at least to let you know) ... I'm currently still trying to _hack_ something together similar to the internal storage-partition upgrades that the other HTC One devices with MSM8960 recieved ... where they officially unified the /user partition with the internal /sd-card (fat) partition! ... it might take a few weeks until i have something to show around (as work keeps me very busy throughout the week), but i'm working on it.
just as a quick question so CM currently DOES put it's dalvik to the /user partition??? i thought they put it to /cache??? (at least on CM10.1 and CM10.2) ................ so feedback would be highly welcome :laugh: