Will the sense UI be retained when the root is rooted and a ROM is installed? Are there any other differences? I'm looking into getting Google Maps Navigation somehow (I'm in Canada) and I read that you need 1.6+ (what's the equivalent to that in a ROM?) and a rooted phone.
I was looking at this thread to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581981
but I don't have wifi at home so I can't download the required stuff as I'm doing it...
rooting doesnt change the sense ui etc. its only a small programm getting installed.
Installing a different ROM can remove Rosie (Sense UI), you have to look yourself which ROMs include Rosie and which not.
Example:
Modaco Rom includes Sense UI, Lox 2.0 AOSP does not contain Rosie.
You can get Google Nav on newer ROMs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583123
Stopped working (take a look at the thread for updates!)
So when you root, nothing changes other than getting root access? Can you use market enabler and such without having a custom ROM?
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So when you root, nothing changes other than getting root access? Can you use market enabler and such without having a custom ROM?
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Yes, are there no paid apps in Canada?
Any official Hero 2.1 update will undoubtedly have Sense packaged - they'll want to continue to offer it as the Hero interface, no point dropping back to generic Android home and losing all their custom widgets. It'd also mean totally rewriting the user manual, instead of a few updates.
You can however always disable Sense, you can do it in 1.5 and I'd imagine it'll remain like that in 2.1.
Remember there'll be no 1.6 for Hero, officially anyway. I wouldn't have thought any devs will bother with an unofficial 1.6 either, everyone's hungry to get 2.x working well.
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Yes, are there no paid apps in Canada?
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Hello all!
I'm new to this and I have a few questions.
I have been reading around a little bit but it doesn't help much when you have so many codenames like Eclair, donut, vanilla and now CyanogenMod-5 that I got interested.
I have a HTC Hero, I would wait for HTC update to have Android 2.1 but the update got delayed to June. I don't want to wait 2 months for it and that's how I decided to try flashing it.
1) What are my ROM options to flash it? Is it all of them compatible or just a few ? Like, only Hero-compatible ROMs or ROMs compatible to devices that support Android ?
2) Basically I want Android 2.1 (Eclair, right?) but don't want to lose the HTC UI. Is that possible ? (the look, the widgets, etc..)
3) On the other hand, not only I don't want to lose HTC's UI as I'd like more of it. HTC Desire for example has more and new widgets that Hero doesn't have. Is there a community ROM that contains those ? Do I need a special ROM for that ?
4) Does all the ROMs contains the latest dev kernel versions ? the latest android dev version that is.
5) Does it have an auto update to update the ROM ?
6) What's the difference between Vanilla and Donut ? I see many talking about Vanilla, but shoulnd't I want the Donut instead ? ( sounded funny, I know )
Thank you in advance !
Looking forward to socialize in this forum.
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Hello all!
I'm new to this and I have a few questions.
I have been reading around a little bit but it doesn't help much when you have so many codenames like Eclair, donut, vanilla and now CyanogenMod-5 that I got interested.
I have a HTC Hero, I would wait for HTC update to have Android 2.1 but the update got delayed to June. I don't want to wait 2 months for it and that's how I decided to try flashing it.
1) What are my ROM options to flash it? Is it all of them compatible or just a few ? Like, only Hero-compatible ROMs or ROMs compatible to devices that support Android ?
2) Basically I want Android 2.1 (Eclair, right?) but don't want to lose the HTC UI. Is that possible ? (the look, the widgets, etc..)
3) On the other hand, not only I don't want to lose HTC's UI as I'd like more of it. HTC Desire for example has more and new widgets that Hero doesn't have. Is there a community ROM that contains those ? Do I need a special ROM for that ?
4) Does all the ROMs contains the latest dev kernel versions ? the latest android dev version that is.
5) Does it have an auto update to update the ROM ?
6) What's the difference between Vanilla and Donut ? I see many talking about Vanilla, but shoulnd't I want the Donut instead ? ( sounded funny, I know )
Thank you in advance !
Looking forward to socialize in this forum.
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1. Only HTC Hero rom's should be flashed (if you're not on Sprint Hero then you're GSM so look for GSM rom's = most) - the wiki has a page dedicated to which rom's are available.
2. HTC theme is called rosie, so look for a rosie enabled rom
3. Some extra widgets come with them - check with each release (you can find them all in the development section)
4. No, most are based upon leaked kernals which have been hacked together to work, they work well enough but as soon as the official 2.1 kernal is available for the hero it will be added in to the rom's
5. Some have OTA updates (e.g. VillainROM)
6. Vanilla just means without the HTC Sense UI (Rosie) so you don't want a vanilla rom. Donut is v1.5 (or maybe 1.6?) of android i believe.
And welcome to the community
Check out my guides for all your needs XD
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(if you're not on Sprint Hero then you're GSM so look for GSM rom's = most) - the wiki has a page dedicated to which rom's are available.
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Thank you! that helped tons!
One more question, mine is not Sprint Hero, just Hero
So it's certain that this is a GSM device ?
How can I tell if it's GSM or CDMA ?
gsm means u can use any sim card
cdma means u cant
Awesome. So mine must be GSM.
Now, what is Radio ROM ?
What is Radio ? Do I have to flash that as well ?
EDIT: I think I get it. It can improve the signal, yes ?
But is it safe to flash this? what are my restrictions?
Looks much more dangerous than flashing a custom ROM
Ok, much more complicated than I thought!
I need to downgrade my kernel first,
didn't find any up to date tutorials on that
only then I need to root and finally flash it
I installed this " ROM Manager " where you have some easy options:
Install ROM from SD card, Download Rom, Check for ROM Updates
just with a click (tap)
That one is easier, but does it work ? How come noone mentions this ROM Manager ?
That are many ROMs to choose..
I take it VillainROM 5.4 is the most popular/older ?
As long as it has Android 2.1 plus the latest Sense UI (not vanilla) then the number of options get trimmed a bit (or so I hope)
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Ok, much more complicated than I thought!
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Its not too difficult, follow BTDAG's guide in my signature, its bang on. Install custom recovery, flash ROM.
No you do not need to downgrade your kernal. When you flash the ROM it will sort that out for you.
As for using 2.1 ROMs, I haven't taken the plunge yet, I'm using MCR3.2 which is a tweaked fast and stable 1.5 ROM.
You're right, btdag's guide did it for me. Very very useful.
Since I didn't have to worry about kernel, it wasn't thaaat hard.
I already installed VillainRom 5.4 and it's great !
Thanks for answering my questions !
Hey,
Just wondering if anyone's got any clue on how to enable Live Wallpaper support in 2.1 ROMs that don't have it be default? ROMs like CronosDroid or latest VillainROM 10?
I don't use SenseUI so it's not a biggie that these two are not compatibile with each other. I also did have it working on VR6.2.1 but since there's plenty ROMs based on official Hero release coming out now I think it's time to move to something more recent - at least until release of anything based on Froyo.
So, all in all is there an apk application to enable it or some simple sh scripts or adb commands? Anyone? ^__^
I think many (or all) of the official 2.1 rooted roms for the hero dont include live wallpapers because the hero 2.1 rom does not have them where as if you flashed a desire rom you would have them but i dont know anyway of enabling them maybe check if livewallpapers.apk is installed then try and enable them using another software that supporrts them eg. launcher pro
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I think many (or all) of the official 2.1 rooted roms for the hero dont include live wallpapers because the hero 2.1 rom does not have them where as if you flashed a desire rom you would have them but i dont know anyway of enabling them maybe check if livewallpapers.apk is installed then try and enable them using another software that supporrts them eg. launcher pro
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Well, I've seen it working in official based latest Androbin and will test flash latest official based ezHero today as well - apparently it has LW support too.
I am not claiming that these are better ROMs than those that don't support it out-of-the-box. No, I am test running all the ROMs I can get my hands on to finally decide on one and stick to it until unofficial 2.2 gets ported to Hero. ^__^
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Well, I've seen it working in official based latest Androbin and will test flash latest official based ezHero today as well - apparently it has LW support too.
I am not claiming that these are better ROMs than those that don't support it out-of-the-box. No, I am test running all the ROMs I can get my hands on to finally decide on one and stick to it until unofficial 2.2 gets ported to Hero. ^__^
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there is an .apk floating about for the hero to enable live wallpapers, google search it
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there is an .apk floating about for the hero to enable live wallpapers, google search it
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Currently running EzHero 1.2.1 so no need for that no more but I _DO_ test many different ROMs and it will come in handy there and then. Thank you! ^__^
As you know the HTC Hero GSM comes with HTC's sense, and I was wondering if there was a way to put the original Android 2.1 on the HTC Hero (basically a clean ROM from Google) without any modifications, hacks or HTC stuff.
I know other devices run Android and must run Google's vanilla android such as the Nexus one, so if I were to port it, how would I go about doing this?
Thanks if you can help
...or you could just look in the Development section? There are tons of vanilla roms that have already been made, and are just awaiting you to put them on your phone?
Why would you go to all the extra trouble of making your own if there are already ones which have been tried, tested and then tested again by many many users?
Have a look: /forumdisplay.php?f=512
I know this already
I just wanted to know if there was a STOCK Android 2.1, you know like you download the stock 2.1 ROM for HTC Hero, is there one for android 2.1, the original provided by google?
It sounds silly but I just wanted an original ROM if possible
Ahh okay I see! No, Google don't provide ROMs for any device except their own Nexus One. HTC provide ROMs for the Hero, and every official HTC Hero ROM has Sense UI on it.
So your best bet is to go with one of the ones provided here. The only things that make them differ from the standard ones are some of the additional feature support as well as the support for the Hero handset.
Hope that helps.
Hi
Since moving to N1 my Hero was redundant but then it went to repair and got a brand new Hero. So What is the best ROM to use now? Where did feeyo go
Can someone recommend a stable sense rom please
Thanks
Feeyo got banned for not following the GPL agreement (and making dupe accounts repeatedly), he now resides on his own website where I believe he has now released his source code as per the agreement. Google it.
Best rom is still to try them all. The best supported sense rom is probably VillainROM 12 (not including Cronos stuff which I don't follow currently as its not on XDA). But you have to try Froyo IMHO! Many releases out there, just give them a go.
Try froyo, as it has stable and usable jit
care to link to the rom please
There are many froyo rom's check the dev section, Froyd Villain, elelinux, Fusion ROM, Cronos Froyo, etc etc...
my hero is on 1.5, what's the quickest way to root?
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my hero is on 1.5, what's the quickest way to root?
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http://www.villainrom.co.uk/vBwiki/index.php?title=Installing_Custom_ROMs is probably the easiest method tbh.
On Hero 1.5, I got the universal root and it rooted but when i open the terminal app the keyboard dont show, i tried holding menu aswell. I tried other terminal apps but no luck
Try elinux 1.9~~ Froyo rom
I take it CM 6 is the best right now?
the latest mcr went ugly on me - could hear voice on phone calls, slow
If you want to use HTC Sense install Android 2.1 (2.2 is still in beta) try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702398 I'm using it and it's pretty fast and looks great. But if you want to use stable Android 2.2 without Sense try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767886
My phone broke and the cost of replacing it with a new one before I'm eligible for an upgrade isn't worth it, so my friend loaned me an HTC Droid Eris until then. It's already rooted apparently, and I'm looking to load a pure, unmodified version of 2.3.7 on it (2.3.5+ is fine too). Or as close as I can possibly get to that, anyway.
Normally I wouldn't bother (I don't need to do much with my phone and I'm hardly a power user), but 2.1 is a little (lot) old at this point. I don't want anything fancy and I don't want Cyanogen. Just a stock, Nexus-esque ROM of Gingerbread and the full, completely functional Google App Suite. That last part is a must. If the ROM doesn't come with them (legalities and what not), that's fine, I just need to know how to get them. I know little to nothing about mobile operating systems, so the plainer the language, the better please.
Thanks for any help you can give.
That may be a little hard if no one has built a pure AOSP ROM for your phone. But what's wrong with CyanogenMod? Since you don't know much about this stuff, maybe you have some misconceptions about it. It's as close to pure Android as you can get, with a whole load of useful features. Android was lacking in a lot of ways till ICS and Jelly Bean. CM really made Gingerbread awesome. Also, for the same reason, CM ROMs are made for a lot of devices rather than AOSP, and most likely yours has a CM ROM for it too.
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That may be a little hard if no one has built a pure AOSP ROM for your phone. But what's wrong with CyanogenMod? Since you don't know much about this stuff, maybe you have some misconceptions about it. It's as close to pure Android as you can get, with a whole load of useful features. Android was lacking in a lot of ways till ICS and Jelly Bean. CM really made Gingerbread awesome. Also, for the same reason, CM ROMs are made for a lot of devices rather than AOSP, and most likely yours has a CM ROM for it too.
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Well it doesn't have to be ripped directly from a Nexus S or anything, but as close to stock as possible. I have a good friend with Cyanogen and I'm just not a fan of the modifications. The UI alterations, the changes to certain operations and functions, the general ability to do some higher level stuff I don't wanna mess with, etc. I'd really just rather have vanilla if it's physically possible.
I don't need anything CM has that GB doesn't already have, so that's why I've opted for vanilla. I already know there's a stable CM 7.2 release for the Eris, which is nice, but I'd really prefer stock. Thank you for your help, though. I appreciate the quick response
That's quite understandable. The multitude of options and advanced settings can be overwhelming. Unfortunately you're at a loss for choice with your device. There aren't a lot of recent ROMs for it to begin with, and out of those there's only one AOSP Gingerbread ROM (2.3.5 I think) that I can find. The rest are CM10 and CM7 ports, AOSP 2.1 Eclair and 2.2 Froyo, and some stock ROMs. There might be more, but I didn't bother to look as the threads have been inactive for very long. There's no point in flashing ROMs that have been dead for a long time. This one AOSP GB ROM itself is more than a year old since the last update. You can still try it though, and if everything works fine and it's stable, you're good. Otherwise your only real choice for a stable, fully functional ROM is CM7.2.
Here's the ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040459
Look here for more ROMs for your phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=554
You should ask this question in your phone's forum rather than the general Android Q&A, as you'll get more appropriate answers from people who are using the phone themselves.
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That's quite understandable. The multitude of options and advanced settings can be overwhelming. Unfortunately you're at a loss for choice with your device. There aren't a lot of recent ROMs for it to begin with, and out of those there's only one AOSP Gingerbread ROM (2.3.5 I think) that I can find. The rest are CM10 and CM7 ports, AOSP 2.1 Eclair and 2.2 Froyo, and some stock ROMs. There might be more, but I didn't bother to look as the threads have been inactive for very long. There's no point in flashing ROMs that have been dead for a long time. This one AOSP GB ROM itself is more than a year old since the last update. You can still try it though, and if everything works fine and it's stable, you're good. Otherwise your only real choice for a stable, fully functional ROM is CM7.2.
Here's the ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040459
Look here for more ROMs for your phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=554
You should ask this question in your phone's forum rather than the general Android Q&A, as you'll get more appropriate answers from people who are using the phone themselves.
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I apologize for not posting on the Droid Eris boards. I know I should have, but it's basically dead at this point so I didn't think I'd get much of a response, if any. Thank you for that link. I searched those boards but I was having a hard time finding stock ROMs. Mostly just CM 7 stuff and other modified ROMs. I guess vanilla isn't too popular. *Shrug*
I just flashed that ROM and it's telling me I need to also flash Google Apps as well. While I greatly appreciate all your help, that was the one thing I said I really needed to have. Do you know how I would go about doing that? I'm gonna try and look it up now, but if my search for vanilla 2.3 is any indication I may need some help. Thank you again for everything
You can download gapps for any Android version from here - http://goo.im/gapps
If you're confused at all, the right gapps for Gingerbread 2.3.5-2.3.7 is here - http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
You won't need the one with Google Talk video chat add-on as your phone doesn't have a front camera. This package I linked to above is the standard gapps package for CM7 and any Android ROM above 2.3.5. Flash gapps package after flashing the ROM.
The reason for Google apps being packaged separately is that Google didn't want people packaging it with their ROMs. CM initially used to have them packaged till Google asked them to remove their proprietary apps, which include Gmail, Play Store and all the backend apps for syncing data with Google. They weren't okay with them being packaged with ROMs, but they were fine with the apps being packaged as a separate file and flashed after flashing the ROM. Modified HTC Sense stock ROMs come with them included though, because stock includes them.
Read this for more info on gapps - http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Google_Apps
Also, vanilla AOSP ROMs are very popular now for a lot of devices. They just weren't too popular at the time of Gingerbread other than for Nexus phones.
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You can download gapps for any Android version from here - http://goo.im/gapps
If you're confused at all, the right gapps for Gingerbread 2.3.5-2.3.7 is here - http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
You won't need the one with Google Talk video chat add-on as your phone doesn't have a front camera. This package I linked to above is the standard gapps package for CM7 and any Android ROM above 2.3.5. Flash gapps package after flashing the ROM.
The reason for Google apps being packaged separately is that Google didn't want people packaging it with their ROMs. CM initially used to have them packaged till Google asked them to remove their proprietary apps, which include Gmail, Play Store and all the backend apps for syncing data with Google. They weren't okay with them being packaged with ROMs, but they were fine with the apps being packaged as a separate file and flashed after flashing the ROM. Modified HTC Sense stock ROMs come with them included though, because stock includes them.
Read this for more info on gapps - http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Google_Apps
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No idea how I stumbled upon this but I always wondered why it was cool to just host all the apps. I remembered a C&D from Google to CM regarding the apps, but nothing on why they were so freely available. Thanks.