Related
As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
I recently purchased a QTEK 2020 which I got a bit cheap on account of it not having 'iMate' written on it. Before I get really into it and put software and stuff on it, I'd like to upgrade my ROM from 1.66 to 1.72, which I have found on this site. Do I have to go through all of the xda2nbftool stuff (which I more or less understand)? Presumably yes, to change the Operator (only?). I'm quite happy for the machine to think that it is an iMate, but presumably this does not work!
I am happy with my machine. It hasn't crashed yet. But it annoys me that it might not be quite as good as yours...
(I so feel like one of those people who wants to remove his cylinder head and replace it with pineapple's to make the engine run sweeter)
i dont really understand what you are asking
are you asking
1 about changing operator and so sim locking ?
2 are you asking if you need the pretty manual xda2nbftool way to upgrade xda2's ?
3 are you asking if it will work upgrading to 1.72 ?
1 you can sim unlock your device without changing rom
a rom never require you to use a special operator but the preset settings will be the operators who put out the rom
2 yes currently it's the only way with time people are likely to make it a bit more gui like the xdatools for xda1
3 it should work but some people are reporting issues with it or maybe that was the beta of 1.72
read about the exp of others in the posts about 1.72
Sorry - it's a simple question.
If I had an iMate I could just use the RUXXX upgrade without any fuss to upgrade to 1.72
However, I have a QTEK 2020. I guess therefore I have to use xda2nbftool to modify the operator name to QTEK - otherwise it will not work (despite the 2 devices being identical). I do not want to unlock a SIM or anything else (it is unlocked by default).
Just looking for confirmation of the above paragraph!
I read about the experience of others using the 'official' 1.72 and it seems okay (better battery life etc.)
Cheers
there are 2 errors i think which stop people from just flashing their xda2 flavor with any rom update in the form of an exe file
1 is country code error if the rom is released in one country it often have a block which will stop people from upgrading their another country xda2 with it, not sure why they do that
2 maybe a form of device block so you dont upgrade your qtek with the imate
i'm sure if you had an imate and the country code dident differ you would be able to upgrade without using xda2nbftool
with time a GUI tool like xdatools for xda1 will come and you'll be able to get around all these blocks without having to type
and such
If you want to upgrade your Qtek to Imate's 1.72 ROM, yes, you need to do all that stuff.
It's actually quite simple, the description on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaRomFlashing is full, accurate, and is actually suited to Qtek owners without changing a single instruction.
I flashed my device (though on the first go it ended up in a dead-ish screen and I had to re-flash) and it works swimmingly.
However, you might get somewhat nervous encountering such dead-ish screens; and for good reason, flashing is dangerous after all.
Perhaps it's best to wait for a Qtek upgrade, they seem to be holding back a bit, so perhaps they're waiting to integrate WM2003 Second Edition, which should be a much larger upgrade. Also, you'll still be covered by warrantee.
If you're having specific problems with your 1.6x ROM, it could conceivably be a good idea to upgrade to the iMate ROM (using the instructions on the wiki), but if you're not having any problems, or problems that also occur in 1.72, or which are a result of 3rd party software you're using; don't bother.
You are right that QTEK seem to be a little slow in releasing anything. In fact I can't find any detailed 'official' support on QTEK outside the pages of this forum. Their website appears to be in swedish and is of very little use!
The QTEKCorporation website doesn't even list the 2020! Strange, as I understand that HTC own QTEK.
Most vendors (Expansys for example) list the 2020 as 'discontinued' (which is how I managed to negotiate a big discount!)
I tried to gatecrash club-iMate but they didn't like my IMEI number, and when I asked why not they said that they don't support my device.
I don't really care (assuming that my machine never has a problem...) and is it seems to do everything I want it to, I'll wait before updating the ROM. Maybe something will come from QTEK eventually - although I am not sure from where!!
Cheers
well qtek were the first ones out with 1.66 it came on my device before most people had gotten 1.60
beljames said:
As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Who am I to contradict you? ;-)
Seriously: don't do the upgrade yet. Why?
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data). See, for example, the pages 45 - 50 of the PocketZenPhone thread in this forum. With my ROM version (1.60) I never had to hard-reset a single time. And I tried quite a few programs, some less buggy, some more buggy.
- also, although there are detailed instructions, things can always go wrong. And if that happens, you may need a bit of experience to sort them out. So wait a few more week, enjoy your device, read forums, and gain experience.
Cheers
Daniel
I have 1.72 for some time now and:
- it *never* crashed (I have to do soft reset from time to time like in any other release though, but no hang or anything)
- clear type is fixed. There's a post about a .cab to install which fixes the problem. ClearType is now great on 1.72
- my battery life improved over previous versions and I have a unit that can stand up to three days connected to my BT headset (a bluetrek G2) with me talking 2 to 3 hours a day and doing PDA stuff
so I would recommend you move on
Hi beljames, really I can understand you! I've almost destroyed a lot of good working car engines trying to "improve" them... :lol:
So: if you want to do this with your brand new QTEK 2020 go there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9060
and read carefully.
All worked fine for me. I upgraded from 1.66 ITA to 1.70 EN and my QTEK works perfectly!
About the cleartype problem you can find a fix in this forum: it works too.
I've also added a N2Ox system and a small turbocharger... it's a little bit heavier, yes, but it runs like a rocket! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Good balanced opinions!!
I think I'll wait a while to see if it annoys me. One single hang and I'll upgrade. Screw it up in Ghana and you don't get a lot of 1 to 1 technical support!!
By the way - I find it far easier to read the screen with Cleartype switched off (and mine is 1.66). Cleartype makes me squint!
An Loxodont - assuming that you are Italian, you will be amused to hear that the one car I used to lunch very frequently was an Alfa 33. Used to blow the inlet manifold clean off almost weekly.
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
in defence of 1.72 then i have had both these issues with 1.66
Go for it....
Hi all,
just to let you know I also upgraded my Qtek 2020 from 1.66 to i-mate 1.72 following the "manual steps" to overryde the country code error and it works fine. The steps are simplier than it seems and i did it in 5 minutes. The upgrade itself is quite boring....it took almost one hour to complete the upgrade on all stacks.
One thing i can tell you: after the upgrade the device gets faster and it seems it has a "new" battery.
The cleartype prob is solved and forgotten with the right patch.
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
If i can give advise on this: Just go for it.....
Portuguese do it better....and we will win Euro2004 !
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
maybe this guide can help you get your old pic or a new and more fancy one as bootImage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3759
I have a phone here, the Niki touch dual with a qwerty keyboard. The device ID is NEON200 and im unable to to flash it? wrong device ID. There are many differences such as, the stilus is colapsable and goes in the bottom left, the usb is behing a rubber door at the botton of the phone, power button is on the right hand side of the phone, sim card enters a door under the volume button.
very strange, going to have to cook my own rom to get one in there,
for interest its Telstra Australia branded (one of our major phone carriers) and it supports 850MHz and 1200Mhz HSDPA and UMTS !
Dave.
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=approval-bluetooth-sig-approves-the-htc-neon-200-an-indication-for-a-umts-touch
yes thats the one, I have dumped the rom if any one is interested, with the exception of part03
so the variant that telstra is selling can not be flashed with new ROMs unless it is specficially designed for it?
It seems that HardSPL cannot be flashed unless the device ID matches. This makes the ROM flashing difficult if not impossible. Unless a HardSPL flash file could be customised to suit the NEON200 device ID I believe. I may be wrong, I am still new to this.
My advice would be to AVOID all rom's and tools designed specifically for the NIKE and wait until someone finds out more about the NEON
Dave.au said:
I have a phone here, the Niki touch dual with a qwerty keyboard. The device ID is NEON200 and im unable to to flash it? wrong device ID. There are many differences such as, the stilus is colapsable and goes in the bottom left, the usb is behing a rubber door at the botton of the phone, power button is on the right hand side of the phone, sim card enters a door under the volume button.
very strange, going to have to cook my own rom to get one in there,
for interest its Telstra Australia branded (one of our major phone carriers) and it supports 850MHz and 1200Mhz HSDPA and UMTS !
Dave.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please dump the SPL:
pmemdump 0x8c000000 0x80000 spl-niki-neon200.bin
(pmemdump is part of itsutils by itsme, run it on PC with a activesync connection)
I will do, Ill get this phone back, its Danoss who owns this phone, see post no #5, here is the rom dump for anyone interested in adding it to their collection 57.8Mb RAR no password at
http://rapidshare.de/files/38517912/HTCNEON200_romdump.rar.html
Hi Jockyw2001, here is the dump you requested, Thanks for your interest!
http://rapidshare.com/files/90050852/spl-niki-neon200.bin.html
The SPL dump is okay. If I have some time left I will develop a SSPL and HardSPL for the NEON guys.
I think we need a new forum for NEON.
Different Hardware and same forum will be very confusing..
Like Elf an Vogue..
That might be a good idea, as it seems there is a new package in the same phone (nearly) and im sure it is going to throw off a few when they first start playing with it.
I would third that motion for a new NEON forum.
I support the new NEON Forum
Yes, my neon arrives today. I vote for a seperate forum also. Cut the confusion.
I agree with the new forum too. There are quite a few differences in the specs on these phones compared to the Nike/niki. After lugging around a Hermes for the last 2 years my wife loves this phone. Haven't told her theres no wifi yet.
Update: She knows about the wifi :-(
A few things I have discovered about the phone.
HHC (Htc Home Customiser) Doesn't work correctly. You can install and load it, change the settings but it never completes when you hit the save button.
CE Star Chinese character recognition and keyboard screws up the slide out keyboard functions.
Hey all i just ordered a Atom off ebay...just wondering if there are something i might want to know about it when i receive it? It is supposed to already have been updated to win 6.1 and have a few other extras added. Im thinking it might have touchflo already too. My only thing is that i didnt realize until after i bought it that it didnt have a keyboard. Whats the best keyboard program i can download? Im a big texter.
well i guess no one is going to reply to this and thats funny because 50 people have viewed it. I just wanted to know some basic information about the phone because i really dont see anything online about it at all.
pockeycm keyboard may help
thanks...i used to have a mogul with wm6. will i be able to just download and install it onto the atom like i did with that?
I'm a big texter too. Try Gullums Diamond Keyboards. When you first use the XT9 keypad it will type only numbers. The solution to this is to press options and then return to the keypad and everything works great. You only need to do this once (or after a soft reset)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392197&highlight=gullum+diamond
Oh and by the way, if you want a good clean WM6.1 ROM with touchflo where EVERYTHING works and NO bugs, try the one in my sig. I've tried them all and it's the most reliable by far. Ok, you have to install any further apps you want yourself but I prefer this.
Enjoy your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415768
Okay so I recently purchased an i-mate Spartphone I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find thru the search feature.
1st I was wondering is the phone I have a Qtek 8500 (I think thats what I read on here) it only says imate on the outside and smartflip below the inner screen and say's imate on loading.
2nd when I use the camera all I see is static no picture... is there a way to fix this or should I load a different rom? I am thinking of running the rose or neo rom anyways (I have to get on my home computer and do the unlocks first I believe)
3rd I am also new to Winmo phones so I was wondering if there was any nice apps that anyone could point me towards.
Thanks in advance
spinn360 said:
Okay so I recently purchased an i-mate Spartphone I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find thru the search feature.
1st I was wondering is the phone I have a Qtek 8500 (I think thats what I read on here) it only says imate on the outside and smartflip below the inner screen and say's imate on loading.
2nd when I use the camera all I see is static no picture... is there a way to fix this or should I load a different rom? I am thinking of running the rose or neo rom anyways (I have to get on my home computer and do the unlocks first I believe)
3rd I am also new to Winmo phones so I was wondering if there was any nice apps that anyone could point me towards.
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The phone is made by HTC but is also sold as other names such as i-mate smartflip.
I have an i-mate smart flip that I purchased on e-bay and was able to use the camera just fine with the original WM5 ROM. Though I must admit that after upgrading the ROM to Erofoch's Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional for HTC StarTrek the camera works even better with the camera night mode option.
This version of WM6 works amazing on this phone, it also has BatteryStatus set up with safe and quick overclocking.
It took me a while to figure out all the steps, there is so much great information in this forum that it can be a bit overwhelming. I was directed to this wiki web page which outlines the ROM upgrade process step by step. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...Trk_ROM_Update
For the Mobile 6.1 Pro ROM that I installed I only had to stop at step 2 because this ROM does the rest.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Rudydb.
Okay I installed the Rose Rom by pampooh??(probably mispelled hope does not offend) anyways still just static on the camera not a huge deal for me I have a different camera phone for that purpose just was hoping it would fix it may be that I just got one with a bad camera but oh well
Yep, sounds like a bad camera. In general, when there is a driver issue, you will either get an error message when you launch the camera, or else a blank screen, but definitely not static.
iMate, Startrek, 3185, and a few other names are all the same phone. HTC sells the phone to Cellular carriers, and they can name it whatever they want. With the phone nerds here at XDA, the easiest way to refer to it is as "StarTrek", since this was the HTC code name for the phone. All the phones are basically alike, except for the Cingular/AT&T 3185, which has a larger battery, and twice the ROM (64MB instead of 32MB). You can buy the extended battery and associated back plate on eBay if you want it. All the versions of the phone run the same software and operating systems.
Software:
Tons of good software out there. What you will like is a matter of opinion. I can't live without:
1. Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 - Gives you text to speech, and awesome voice recognition.
2. Coreplayer - An actual working media player for the phone (not crappy like WMP).
3. Replacement calandar/tasks program - Tons out there, but I don't like the MS one.
4. Games - Again, find ones you like.
Hi all,
Yes I'm new, and i was wondering if I could have a bit of help please?
I have a Neon200, and the Nike stuff obviously doesn't work for it. Saying that however, I have gone through the Neon Hard-SPL, from here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
and then i upgraded to a russian 6.1 (which is also on the board somewhere), and now plan to move to 6.5. I found one here, but apparently will have issues with the keyboard and the camera button.
My question is, is anyone else working on a ROM for wm6.5 that will work on my neon200? Or is there anyway to get a niki rom to work on it?
Thanks, and sorry if I've just asked a bunch of noob questions.
I got the 6.5 rom to work on my phone (albeit with limited physical key support)
But now I'm having the issue of my sim not working in there (no service, denied, searching..)
Think this is because the radio I have for it now doesn't work.
Can anyone help me with that?
My phone is the Neon200 (duh..), from Telstra NextG in Australia.
Cheers guys
Yeah.. I've been poking around a bit as well.. I think the official HTC image is only 6.1.. so if anyone can port the Niki 6.5 over it would be great!
Hmm...
It may be an issue with thephone. I still have it, and also have a 16 key NIKI100 now, as well as the touch diamond.
Think i'll just sell the other ones and stick with the diamond.