I'm quite excited about this:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/142083/mobile-firefox-to-debut-on-windows-mobile.html
Perhaps we'll get that long-awaited full browser functionality on Windows Mobile.
If this is the Firefox seen on the latest N800 Tabet update then we can expect FULL, smooth flash support and snappy load times.
If so this could be a worry for Opera Mobile, who are seemingly SH*T at integrating effective flash support into their browsers - they couldn't even manage it with the Wii.
I can only cross my fingers......
leoni1980 said:
I'm quite excited about this:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/142083/mobile-firefox-to-debut-on-windows-mobile.html
Perhaps we'll get that long-awaited full browser functionality on Windows Mobile.
If this is the Firefox seen on the latest N800 Tabet update then we can expect FULL, smooth flash support and snappy load times.
If so this could be a worry for Opera Mobile, who are seemingly SH*T at integrating effective flash support into their browsers - they couldn't even manage it with the Wii.
I can only cross my fingers......
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If you want to try a beta of it here it is !
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It's quite good but it's not perfect flash is not yet implemented in this version but RSS is !! there are also missing options like the ability to lie to websites about the type of device (portable/desktop) and it keeps putting the touch keyboard up, just tap on the screen to close it
ice_coffee said:
If you want to try a beta of it here it is !
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
It's quite good but it's not perfect flash is not yet implemented in this version but RSS is !! there are also missing options like the ability to lie to websites about the type of device (portable/desktop) and it keeps putting the touch keyboard up, just tap on the screen to close it
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I believe Minimo is a separate project. The new firefox development is for wm6 and linux-based devices with a bit more RAM and ROM at their disposal as far as i know.
Nokia ousted Opera in favour of firefox for the browser in OS2008 (which is superb). If the same browser can be put on my WM6 device i'll be VERY happy.
It will be great... I use the web alot and thats one reason i use my iphone more. if we can get firefox ... goodbye iphone...
fatouraee said:
It will be great... I use the web alot and thats one reason i use my iphone more. if we can get firefox ... goodbye iphone...
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The link from this article has a bit more information...
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/10/firefox-coming-to-your-phone/.
It seems that it CERTAINLY isn't Minimo - more a fully-fledged browser and will released around the first quarter of next year.
Trying to source some more info
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If you want to try a beta of it here it is !
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
it keeps putting the touch keyboard up, just tap on the screen to close it
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or disable software keyboard in options, but it seams that slow and freezzes my device up for 30 seconds at a time as its a beta hope it will be improved masively as opera is far more user friendly
firefox beta2
No stable not working
spzero said:
or disable software keyboard in options, but it seams that slow and freezzes my device up for 30 seconds at a time as its a beta hope it will be improved masively as opera is far more user friendly
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it worked fine for me are you sure you got the 0.2 version not the 0.1 !!!
leoni1980 said:
The link from this article has a bit more information...
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/10/firefox-coming-to-your-phone/.
It seems that it CERTAINLY isn't Minimo - more a fully-fledged browser and will released around the first quarter of next year.
Trying to source some more info
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I see what you are saying, but I also think it is foolish to think they are going to completely ignore the mobile browser they already have in their stable and come up with a new firefox mobile !!!
We will wait and see, I think you will find the the up and coming firefox will have more in common with minimo than you give credit for. When using minimo I noticed it was quick opening up tabs (quicker than opera) and the loading symbol for a loading tab was the same as used on firefox on my desktop! the point is there are already similarities I expect firefox to be based on some if not a lot of the minimo code.
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it worked fine for me are you sure you got the 0.2 version not the 0.1 !!!
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my cab is 'minimoCE_0.2' it does work but is not that great im using opera again.... until something better comes along
your right it isn`t that great but it`s only a beta, give it time !
I don't know if it's a setting I have missed or something but the Opera browser doesn't seem to accept touch screen input.
Is this right?
I have removed it in favour of IE atm
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I don't know if it's a setting I have missed or something but the Opera browser doesn't seem to accept touch screen input.
Is this right?
I have removed it in favour of IE atm
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in the options uncheck the grab option.
Whilst we're talking about Opera, there's a little thing I've been pondering.
Why do developers of Mobile browsers find it so difficult to integrate flash support?
Surely even if there isn't a dedicated flash player for this platform there's some way that the browser could detect if a flash format needs processing and converting. As far as I know the Firefox browser built into the EEE pc's xandros OS does this.
At no point do any drivers need installing. Even Stage6 files are converted and streamed without needing to install the web player.
This seems to be a daily affair now, isn't it? ROM cook, get the picture? Don't cook this in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
Edit:
Observations:
Text is a bit jagged.
Data connection is a problem. It gives a white screen and stops there without anything happening.
Sigh, back to build 1184.
If you can get it to work, this is what another poster said about this build
"This latest build 1522 is able to run HTC Streamer and TCPMP on files associated with those programs, but Opera itself then exits. Nevertheless, this means that Opera can correctly run videos from Youtube Mobile (http://m.youtube.com) and Youtube Pocket (http://www.ytpocket.com). I did not try the regular Youtube, which requires Flash--partly because of the known Flash keyboard bug, and partly because installation of regular Flash might goof up FlashVideoBundle (which works well on Internet Explorer)"
May be I'd go back to test some more.
its ok tomorrow opera is releasing there official beta of opera 9.5
totally forgot about that, whats the bet its build 405?
Rory
Just tried the Fennec Milestone release on my s740 with no expectations of it running anywhere near usable. And I was right, it isn't on the s740.
I've previously tried running Minimo years back on my i-mate SP5. Which, to be honest performed quite poorly.
My memory of Minimo was how much memory it used up just for loading. Fennec had a similar first impressions for me. Felt it took a little while to load, and once loaded not much worked with the s740. Let me re-iterate that I wasn't expecting it to actually work/be usable at this stage especially for a pre-alpha build.
Would be great to one day have a version of Fennec which works properly on the s740 and other Windows Mobile Smartphones (and by Smartphones I mean non-touch screen phones!).
I've also tried Torch Mobiles' Iris browser on my s740, while it works ok it's got a ways to go. The Iris browser crashed due to lack of memory on my old SP5, but that's not much of an issue on the s740. So in that sense, it does work better than Fennec (for now)!
I would not recommend installing either to anyone for now except for those truly curious.
Oh, and according to the Iris blog, they are getting quite close to full Acid 3 support for their internal build of the Iris browser. Check out their YouTube video.
I for one am still waiting for Opera Mobile 9.5. And until that happens (if ever by the looks of it), i guess Opera Mini has got to hang in there.
.-ombre-.
If you want a better web browsing experience on your S740, you should use Skyfire :
http://www.skyfire.com/
It works well on my S740 .
Do you guys think they will make chrome browser for 2.2 soon or if at all?
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Possibly? The chrome browser is in beta mode right now but i think google will release it for its older roms also. Google has been good about not leaving its past roms behind. If anything someone can probably port it to 2.2 eventually
I think its just on 4.0 because its BETA, according to google, stable version will be out in a "few" months so hopefully it supports you old guys.
I actually think Chrome Beta might need to use the hardware acceleration that was added in ICS. Chrome Beta does not work (as far as I know) if 4.0 custom roms that don't have hardware acceleration functioning yet. While it's true that a browser (see SGSII browsers) can have hardware acceleration without the entire OS, it makes sense that Google decided to make it 4.0+. They will likely make Chrome the official browser for future android releases (Jellybean?)
Similar to my TWRP / Multirom thread, this is temporary until xda decides to add this device to the dev db list. A few comments and a known issues list will be all in this post. Please report any and all problems you find. This is still very early in the development process.
NOTES:
This will only install using my TWRP build here because I'm have to do some hacky things to support a unified build. I may eventually find a cleaner method.
This doesn't yet contain my attempt at controller pairing. The framework patches are there, but not the apk. It will be tested and included in later builds. Wifi doesn't work, so pairing wouldn't work anyways.
I had to use aosp libs to make this boot, which is different from my Portable and Tablet releases. The hdcp libs seems to be very different, so I have no idea if 4k works at all and I seriously doubt youtube and netflix drm will verify correctly.
You will have to wipe data to install this, make a backup first. Do note this is just /data, not the entire internal sd.
KNOWN ISSUES:
Wireless controller pairing not implemented
No audio over hdmi (so, no audio at all)
SOURCE:
device
kernel
vendor
CURRENT RELEASE:
cm-13.0-20160224-UNOFFICIAL-foster.zip
OLD RELEASES:
cm-12.1-20150819-UNOFFICIAL-foster.zip
cm-12.1-20150720-UNOFFICIAL-foster.zip
cm-12.1-20150709-UNOFFICIAL-foster.zip
missing default android keyboard?
installs fine boots into CM - displaying in 1080p on my monitor just fine.
missing android keyboard.
works fine with usb keyboard (logitech k400r)
amazon app store installs fine, recognizes all apps - minecraft PE crashes on start
touch pad / mouse freezes intermittently
netflix installs but does not play
great start, looking good.
I'm finding all kinds of interesting things working on this... Well, I got the stock libs 'working'. HDCP (or something in the graphics stack) locks up the system on boot when using a custom built kernel. From within CM or even from Nvidia's aosp tree. It will only boot with the kernel pulled out of an official boot image. I compared the ikconfig out of the official kernel with what I'm building in CM and they match. So, I'm kinda lost as to what black magic is at work here... Is something doing a crc check? Is there black box GPL violations in the stock kernel? I don't know. And I had a custom kernel booting stock when I was first trying multirom stuff. So that makes me *really* confused. For the moment, I've disabled kernel compiles in my device tree and I'm shipping a blob kernel. And I hate doing that.
Haven't looked at the missing keyboard yet.
Wifi is closer, but still not there. The wlan0 interface seems to init, but the p2p interface fails and brings it immediately back down. I'll do some more research into that over the weekend.
The screen flickers at times. Don't know why, but I think I saw some system props that affects the screen drawing on stock, once I find those again I should be able to fix that.
The OMX libs work now. Which means game streaming works. I tested a grid game already. Don't have Windows, so I can't test local streaming. And theoretically the aforementioned Netflix problem should be fixed by this as well.
I'm kicking off a build to run overnight (takes 4+ hours for a clean release build [on a AMD FX 9370, no less]), so I should have this stuff up first thing tomorrow morning (pending life (r)).
Edit: And... build failed. Starting over... So, looking at this afternoon now.
Edit 2: Well... I can make it boot when I tinker with it manually, but I'm not having much luck making a reproducible build from source. So... I'll have a release eventually, but with 4 hour rebuilds, I can't say when at this rate.
Steel01 said:
Similar to my TWRP / Multirom thread, this is temporary until xda decides to add this device to the dev db list. A few comments and a known issues list will be all in this post. Please report any and all problems you find. This is still very early in the development process.
NOTES:
This will only install using my TWRP build here because I'm have to do some hacky things to support a unified build. I may eventually find a cleaner method.
This doesn't yet contain my attempt at controller pairing. The framework patches are there, but not the apk. It will be tested and included in later builds. Wifi doesn't work, so pairing wouldn't work anyways.
I had to use aosp libs to make this boot, which is different from my Portable and Tablet releases. The hdcp libs seems to be very different, so I have no idea if 4k works at all and I seriously doubt youtube and netflix drm will verify correctly.
You will have to wipe data to install this, make a backup first. Do note this is just /data, not the entire internal sd.
KNOWN ISSUES:
Wifi doesn't enable. (ethernet works fine, though)
Keyboard not installed
SOURCE:
device
kernel
vendor
CURRENT RELEASE:
cm-12.1-20150709-UNOFFICIAL-foster.zip
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screenshots ?
Glad to see ATV gettin some action ... ooooo hel I'm excited. I've been fastbooting your twrp img. for a few things and its working quite nicely on my pro model. BIG BIG thanks for that @Steel01 Does it look like there will be any issues reguarding which version console its running?
@aniel300: Screenshots? It's Cyanogenmod. The same Cyanogenmod as on any other device...
@ElwOOd_CbGp: Like mentioned in the OP, I do a hacky thing or two to support unified builds. It have the pro version myself, so that's what I test on. I'm pretty sure it will work with no extra problems on the 16 GB model, however.
Alright, I *think* I finally ironed my build problems (all related to using a prebuilt kernel... got to figure out a way to not have to do that), so theoretically I'll have a build out tomorrow. Probably won't be able to test much until the afternoon, so I doubt it'll be out bright and early.
yey! please keep going! AOSP + Kodi + Support for official remotes would be awesome!
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@aniel300: Screenshots? It's Cyanogenmod. The same Cyanogenmod as on any other device...
@ElwOOd_CbGp: Like mentioned in the OP, I do a hacky thing or two to support unified builds. It have the pro version myself, so that's what I test on. I'm pretty sure it will work with no extra problems on the 16 GB model, however.
Alright, I *think* I finally ironed my build problems (all related to using a prebuilt kernel... got to figure out a way to not have to do that), so theoretically I'll have a build out tomorrow. Probably won't be able to test much until the afternoon, so I doubt it'll be out bright and early.
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@[email protected]: Kodi is of great interest to me as well, so I'll work to make sure works well.
@aniel300: No, it's pure CM. I plan to make the TV stuff accessible, but it won't be there by default.
I finally got a bootable build, but it does show more problems. The launcher and some programs lag terribly. Not locking up, but slow enough to trigger ANRs. Netflix does still crash when loading a video, hopefully that won't be hard to fix once I can read the logs. The interface still flickers, but only the interface, not videos or games or such. I'll do some more testing this afternoon and unless an even worse problem shows up, I'll release.
New build is up. It appears the netflix bug affects others things too, like youtube. Appears to be audio related, but I don't have time right away to try and track down the root cause. So, consider this another bug hunting build and not truly usable.
I've fixed an audio problem, so sound and YouTube and all that works again. Netflix is still confusing me a bit, though. It appears to be a problem with the OMX libs, but not one seen on any other Shield device. Haven't spent too much time looking the last few days.
I'm in the process of restructuring the build setup on my dev machine. Like moving the build trees to a faster spinny disk and ccache to a ssd. That should get builds going a lot faster. 4 hours per build gets old real fast. And 45 minutes for a one package change. I plan to release a new build once I get that all sorted out.
what about you try to port android m tv developer preview instead or at least cm but with all the good stuff from android tv.
It seems Forge has unlockable bootloader they posted instructions also for home images so it's a start it should be easy to flash recovery if there was one. Sorry for going little off topic but this seems more active here
New build up. Seems the OMX libs are only partially working. Youtube works, but mxplayer and kodi fall back to their software decoders. Wireless appears to finally work, but logcat messages lead me to believe it's still not completely there. Oh, and the UI flickering is still there.
So, I loaded this build up and promptly installed HALauncher and Kodi. With the controller wired in, this seems to be a pretty usable setup. As things begin to stabalize, I'll probably start to recommend that launcher as a replacement for leanback. Now if only I can find a replacement for the leanback keyboard, I won't have to include any Google blobs... Suggestions are welcome for a free and preferably open source dpad enabled keyboard.
Really good progress tonight. Barring something patentably bad happening, I should be releasing a new build tomorrow. List of progress:
1. Interface flickering is way down. Don't know if it was something I did or if upstream CM tweaked stuff. Either way, it's bearable now. I only notice it on some transitions, whereas before it was all the time on builtin android interface stuff.
2. OMX libs work. Hardware accelerated video and movies, plus game streaming and grid works now.
3. Leanback IME (controller enabled keyboard) is part of the build. It's smaller than on stock, but still usable.
Some things still need work, though:
1. Netflix still fails to play a video. At least it doesn't crash to desktop anymore...
2. Wireless controller pairing fails. The app runs and it tries to set stuff up, but seems to hit the same problem the Portable does most times. I have got the Portable to pair once or twice, though, so some people might be more lucky than me and it'll actually work.
All in all, this looks like a very usable test build, if not a daily driver for some use cases.
Hi steel01
I am planning to buy this device, pro version, but its true that the SSD storage drive has some problems about performance and response, speed, looking all around for a good review about this and nothing found yet,unbelievable, I want to be sure the 16 GB or pro version.
Counting on you,like you doing on the shield tablet,interesting approach with CM,look forward, when I get it I will install the Zulu99 full android ROM first and them....cm
Good luck on this, thank for you hard work
I haven't had any lag problem with the Pro edition, but I also haven't done anything IO intensive. So, I'm not really a good yardstick for that. However, the pro edition does have the 16GB hardware, just needs some tweaking to be able to access it. Probably could do some boot image trickery to get /system on that device. Haven't looked at that yet since CM and multirom are higher priority in that order.
Other stuff came up today, so I didn't get to test the new build. As soon as I drag it back across the house to reflash it, I'll verify the build and upload. Maybe tomorrow afternoon.
I am just a thinker, its possible to use all the best feature of CM and put it in android tv or viceversa.
I dont own yet a android tv device, but is like no to manny peoples like it, may restrictions from google, its entirely new or old UI, developers needs to port their apps to android tv platform, maybe we like the custom launcher or just the regular launcher, well its until everybodys decision.
Multirom sound good, but i like the basic and fast, what about if we can have two launcher in the GUI or UI, can be possible, there is a really need an apps to be ported to android tv platform, why google put restriction, we can sideload to get what we want, i think this is confusing android OS is android.
I think the best thing to do its going back to the basic.
Well, I didn't get to testing today either. I think I'll run another build tonight and try to get to a test tomorrow night.
@duanim: That is my end goal for my device. The Shield TV running CM with a 10 foot launcher (that isn't leanback) and everything accessible from the controller. The current build isn't too bad for that, but not all the way there. CM and HALauncher works pretty well. But the controller still needs help wirelessly.
There's one major problem with running android and android tv simultaneously. It seems the play stores are different. You either get the TV apps or the normal apps, not both. If someone knows different or a way to work around this, I'd love to hear it.
Still can't get the dumb wireless controller libs to package the way I want. So the latest build is missing some, causing the app to continuously force close, making the build unusable. I'll split it like I didn't want to and should have a releasable build tomorrow.