This is manila Htc_Sense_2_1_19203317_0!
Is perfectly functional but still has small bugs!
This topic is dedicate only for chef's who want's to cook Manila Sense 2.1 in your roms, not for any user !!!
Help me finish this project...
Compared with Sense 2.5, this manila version not consume many ram and resources!
I apologize if I posted this before other chef's, but together we managed to complete more quickly this project!
@amarullz and @Kisja help us to finish this project!
Thank you all for your support!
Download here:http://www.4shared.com/file/177537290/54003f39/Htc_Sense_2_1_19203317_0_VGA_m.html
reserved...
loool I just cooked WM6.5 ROM with Sense 2.5, will try this ASAP
Thank you and all who helped you for hard work
it works with packages for manila2.1 or only with Sense 2.5 packages?
what's the difference between 2.1 and 2.5?
dilema said:
what's the difference between 2.1 and 2.5?
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Basically same as manila 2.1 but with weather on Home Screen and improved speed
I was wondering if anyone was going to tackle this!
Great work,
dwizzy130
So glad you posted this. Some folks would make a post saying they have a 90% port or something similar, but never post the files to even let people try. As you can see the 2.5 port came a lot further with many minds than just one person or group holding onto the files in an attempt to tease us Thanks
umm, i don't want to point fingers, but this looks like it's using the exact same files from the captain's sense 2.1 rom except you used the updated manila.exe from the carrier-branded sense 2.1. heck, even the time stamps for the files i personally modified are the same as when the captain released that rom. just to be sure, i did a binary file comparsion, and all the files matched my sense 2.1 port
i guess waiting a few days for a public release of the final packages is too long for some people.
great release, thank you so much!
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umm, i don't want to point fingers, but this looks like it's using the exact same files from the captain's sense 2.1 rom except you used the updated manila.exe from the carrier-branded sense 2.1. heck, even the time stamps for the files i personally modified are the same as when the captain released that rom. just to be sure, i did a binary file comparsion, and all the files matched my sense 2.1 port
i guess waiting a few days for a public release of the final packages is too long for some people.
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I am very surprised that Akeo did not mention his source for the files. That's not very nice. You definately deserve recognition for the port.
Once you let 1 person have it to use publically, inevitably it will spread, but most on the forum are good about giving credit to the source when the source is known.
Do you have any objections to other Chef's using this to create a ROM with with a statement that this is pre release Sense 2.1, that there are bugs, and of course mention that port was done by you kimi_sae_ireba?
People are very excited about your Sense 2.1 port.
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Basically same as manila 2.1 but with weather on Home Screen and improved speed
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So 2.5 is faster? I was waiting for 2.1 all the time, now the waiting is over, and I have to go back to T3D. Sense 2.5 is already too slow. I expected sense 2.1 a little bit faster.
dilema said:
what's the difference between 2.1 and 2.5?
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Are you asking the differerence between Sense 2.1 and Sense 2.5?
Or just TFL3D Manila 2.1 and Sense 2.5
benko286 said:
Basically same as manila 2.1 but with weather on Home Screen and improved speed
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Sense 2.1 is alot like TFL3D 2.1 with weather on the home screen.
And it is faster that Sense 2.5.
And unlike Sense 2.5, it has landscape support.
cellneuron said:
So 2.5 is faster? I was waiting for 2.1 all the time, now the waiting is over, and I have to go back to T3D. Sense 2.5 is already too slow. I expected sense 2.1 a little bit faster.
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The post you are responding to is not quite right, or could be interpreted to lead to a wrong conclusion.
Sense 2.1 is faster than Sense 2.5.
It has weather on the homescreen, but not the full screen animations.
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Captain_Throwback has given a very good comparison of Sense 2.1 and Sense 2.5.
Here is a link to that comparison: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4940037&postcount=2471
JVH3 said:
Do you have any objections to other Chef's using this to create a ROM with with a statement that this is pre release Sense 2.1, that there are bugs, and of course mention that port was done by you kimi_sae_ireba?
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since the cat is out of the bag, i can't stop people from using it. just keep in mind that that particular version is a month old and still has some bugs in it. as of right now, my sense 2.1 port is pretty much complete aside from one minor issue i need to fix for cdma users.
Thanks for your great work akeo
Sorry, i have read on the first post that this is dedicated to chiefs only and asked numerous times with Sense 2.5. But i can't stop myself from asking, may i ask this question again? I believe Sense 2.1 has less files than Sense 2.5 it is possible to make this app in a form of a CAB? Sorry for interrupting with the development and further apologizes if people think this is a annoying question. Thanks in advance.
[email protected]
kimi_sae_ireba said:
since the cat is out of the bag, i can't stop people from using it. just keep in mind that that particular version is a month old and still has some bugs in it. as of right now, my sense 2.1 port is pretty much complete aside from one minor issue i need to fix for cdma users.
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I'd be one o those CDMA users waitin on you're port.
tempting to try this out but is there a way if you can port the twitter tab onto this version of sense?? i find the tab useful
great work,i'll have a try,and wait for kimi-wait for months…
Hats off Akeo!
Thank you Akeo for your generosity of sharing these releases.
You are the first person who made available for us the sense 2.5 port, although there were some selfish chefs who wanted to keep it only for themselfs!
Now you are the first who shares the sense 2.1!
Thank you, you are great!
Keep it up, man!
Quick question. I am on a CDMA diamond. Is this gonna have the SMS no sim card issue?
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Hey Chefs are we cooking? It's with the LEO ROM.
It is not so easy man It is for WVGA devices, so it will be hard to port it for VGA. Manila 2.5 is ported but it is not still bug free, so if you are looking forward so much you can try to port it Good luck
2.5 is ported to vga?? where is it i somehow missed that i thought 2.1 was the farthest so far
but 2.6 does look great
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2.5 is ported to vga?? where is it i somehow missed that i thought 2.1 was the farthest so far
but 2.6 does look great
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2.5 is in an italian ROM. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493657
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2.5 is ported to vga?? where is it i somehow missed that i thought 2.1 was the farthest so far
but 2.6 does look great
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i think that one of the sheps rom was with manila 2.5 but it is still buggy...
I would love to donate my hard earned cash for 2.6 dev
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I would love to donate my hard earned cash for 2.6 dev
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There isn't lack of desire to port 2.6 to VGA; it's lack of availability. There's only one person that has their hands on it at this point, and he has not shared it with the Team that's currently porting 2.5.
ok, so it's just a matter of time.
I can't wait. I've been debating which ROM to flash to my Pro for about a week now. I know it'll tak a while for you guys to get 2.6, but when you do it'll make me very happy. Keep up all the great work guys!
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There isn't lack of desire to port 2.6 to VGA; it's lack of availability. There's only one person that has their hands on it at this point, and he has not shared it with the Team that's currently porting 2.5.
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Gotta be either Dutty or udk...both have been known to be super stingy.
From what I understood manila 2.6 needs newer hardware, hardware that's not on our raphs, anybody know anything about that? 12
Hey T-Cab you are a mod now, I guess it's mister T-Cab now o ok, sorry don't ban me )
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From what I understood manila 2.6 needs newer hardware, hardware that's not on our raphs, anybody know anything about that? 12
Hey T-Cab you are a mod now, I guess it's mister T-Cab now o ok, sorry don't ban me )
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Well, yozgatg posted about some of the differences here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4359483#post4359483
And mentioned is the sluggishness of the interface on our puny devices, in comparison to the 1GHz Snapdragon that the Leo sports.
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Well, yozgatg posted about some of the differences here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4359483#post4359483
And mentioned is the sluggishness of the interface on our puny devices, in comparison to the 1GHz Snapdragon that the Leo sports.
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Right I talked to someone who could't get it to run on his raph (don't bother asking). I don't know if such a difference in hardware can be overcome by the manila getting more stable, so doubt whether we'll ever get a port even if the files are shared. Are you saying someone got it running on the puny raph? Btw nice to have you as a mod, was just kidding , 12
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Right I talked to someone who could't get it to run on his raph (don't bother asking). I don't know if such a difference in hardware can be overcome by the manila getting more stable, so doubt whether we'll ever get a port even if the files are shared. Are you saying someone got it running on the puny raph? Btw nice to have you as a mod, was just kidding , 12
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I know . I'm glad to be able to help out the community however I can.
So is 2.6 so much different from 2.5? I know 2.5 works on Raph, and that version is from the Leo as well. I'm sure some of the wizards around here can get it working on our devices.
Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
Wrong topic and who cares of your opinion, don't gotta be negative. Don't like it don't use it. In my opinion I love it even though there's no landscape. It's sexy and looks nice and nothing freezes for me, freezing of apps is because of Windows Mobile not Manila 2.5
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Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
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i think before u start complaining is to try other ROMs that run 2.5 AFIAK even though u tried an EnergyROM try the LATEST EnergyROM it has a very stable and fast Sense 2.5 built in IMHO
and for your issues with SMS messaging recommend to search for Zenyee's disable htc messaging app
and it seems ur stability issues can lead to a bad flash OR you installed something to slow down ur phone, reflash and run the ROM without installing any apps, install ONE app at a time and check to see which one leads to ur crashes
install NeoS2007 graphics drivers, search for it and ull notice a significant difference in stability and smoothness
and if you honestly think that those are the worst ROMs why dont you go ahead and try to make your own??
the community is here for development and the love of designing things. if you don't like something, don't use it.
it's like art, if u don't like something, you don't have to buy it. if you do, buy the print (or go for the original).
How can I see if i got HTC-Sense 2.5 or TF3d1 / 2 ?
Broman400 said:
Wrong topic and who cares of your opinion, don't gotta be negative. Don't like it don't use it. In my opinion I love it even though there's no landscape. It's sexy and looks nice and nothing freezes for me, freezing of apps is because of Windows Mobile not Manila 2.5
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There is a landscape fix Here
XERO_Racer said:
i think before u start complaining is to try other ROMs that run 2.5 AFIAK even though u tried an EnergyROM try the LATEST EnergyROM it has a very stable and fast Sense 2.5 built in IMHO
and for your issues with SMS messaging recommend to search for Zenyee's disable htc messaging app
and it seems ur stability issues can lead to a bad flash OR you installed something to slow down ur phone, reflash and run the ROM without installing any apps, install ONE app at a time and check to see which one leads to ur crashes
install NeoS2007 graphics drivers, search for it and ull notice a significant difference in stability and smoothness
and if you honestly think that those are the worst ROMs why dont you go ahead and try to make your own??
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Exactly very good point !
You should try develooping and programming yourself before criticizing others' hardwork.
and XERO i think you should try this graphics fix works better than neo
here
theknub said:
the community is here for development and the love of designing things. if you don't like something, don't use it.
it's like art, if u don't like something, you don't have to buy it. if you do, buy the print (or go for the original).
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Exactly I agree.
licht77 said:
How can I see if i got HTC-Sense 2.5 or TF3d1 / 2 ?
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If you have a clock + weather on the home page and if you have a twitter tab in ur slider then its SENSE2.5=manila2.5=TF3D 2.5.
If you have just the clock on the main page then it is TF3D2.1=Manila2.1
I Request MODs to close this thread.
i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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But then one should not open a thread and start speaking against a development if you don't like it don't use it.
Others like it they use it.
Stupid post
HTC sense was developed for the more advanced next gen phones.
azik said:
i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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Azik. Google up Max Ultimate... allows up to 20 shortcuts. Personally, it's the only way I was able to use 2.5.
I think the original poster was just stating his opinion that he didn't like Sense 2.5. But you guys are acting like Apple Fanboys going ballistic and coming out so rude...
I don't like it sense 2.5 either...
As much as this forum is to praise people's work, we can't be doing ONLY that all the time. sometimes the work sucks and needs to be said that way.
I don't think its chef's fault or anything and I appreciate the time each chef puts in. But these days the forum is full of latest cutting edge software THAT SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK WELL with tweaking, fixing bugs, do this and do that,etc...
I have gone back to older stable ROMs. I have the luxury of trying out these things because of the hard and good work of the chefs, the forum and the user community. Thank you all.
Have a nice day, everyone.
I love sense 2.5
It rocks! Maybe not for u but it is great for me
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and XERO i think you should try this graphics fix works better than neo here
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Anyone know if this graphics fix speeds up Sense and SMS? Tried NRG's ROM with Sense, loved it, but a little too slow on my FUZE. Switched back to NRG's Touch Flo 2.1 ROM.
You guys who are complaining about 2.5 do realise that its not actually intended to work on the Touch Pro don't you? The version that we are luckily able to run has been ported over from different phones (leo iirc?) which has more power available to it, and a different resolution, amongst many other differences.
So we are not able to run an official HTC final-polished-ready-to-go version of it, and we NEVER will..we get a hacked together port put together by some very talented people on these boards.
So you can justifyably say that current implementations of it has bugs, is unstable, has missing/overlapping icons/graphics or speed issues..but these are not HTC Sense issues.
Personally I really like it but don't run it day to day because of a few issues with the new messenging client when you have more than a few text messages (takes forever to load!), BUT I like sense itself..the questions of if its stable or not, and if its a good bit of software are completely different, and its not fair on HTC or the guys on this board to mix them up..
Just my 2c..
redtiger said:
Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
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Sense doesn't suck. It's your phone. It wasn't designed to run on it for a reason...
LEO DUSK Rocks
This my second day on the "Leo" Sense 2.5 Dusk and it "ROCKS" NRGZ28 roms are great. Waiting to see what he does next!
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But then one should not open a thread and start speaking against a development if you don't like it don't use it.
Others like it they use it.
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Aren't discussion boards for discussing stuff? what is the point of having a forum for if people do not post their opinions and views on things?
Nobody is speaking against bad development. The topic is about HTC Sense nothing more nothing less.
Discussion
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Aren't discussion boards for discussing stuff? what is the point of having a forum for if people do not post their opinions and views on things?
Nobody is speaking against bad development. The topic is about HTC Sense nothing more nothing less.
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I second this. Also to the first poster, you can try a hard reset or re flash a new rom. I have had some issues with 2.5 myself and lately the new 2.5 roms seem much faster and stable. The chefs put a lot of work into making a rom, so I can see why they get upset,but on the same note its nice to vent about things when something is not working. When I had problems with 2.5 I decided to stick with 2.1 until recently , and now I really like 2.5. I am going to flash a 2.1 probably later today and see which I like best, but I am willing to bet its the 2.5 roms. 2.5+MaxManila=Bliss
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Anyone know if this graphics fix speeds up Sense and SMS? Tried NRG's ROM with Sense, loved it, but a little too slow on my FUZE. Switched back to NRG's Touch Flo 2.1 ROM.
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Yes it speeds up the whole Manile working all together the the GFx Boost or NEO GFx.
could someone please cook a perfect donut for our lovely heroes? i really wanna try flashing donuts into my hero. cupcakes seem very boring and the sense ui is really laggy.
thanks in advance if any of u good samaritans cook a perfect donut for us. billions of thanks!!
I don't think this is possible as yet.
The problem isn't with getting the Donut sources, but getting Donut kernel supported drivers from HTC.
Until HTC release those drivers, which is probably slim given the fact that an HTC 2.x release is due, you are going to have to live with 1.5 OR a flaky release of Donut.
Somebody on here will correct me if I'm wrong.
limkoksoon said:
could someone please cook a perfect donut for our lovely heroes? i really wanna try flashing donuts into my hero. cupcakes seem very boring and the sense ui is really laggy.
thanks in advance if any of u good samaritans cook a perfect donut for us. billions of thanks!!
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Yea, not going to happen at all, why not try one of the AOSP 2.x releases in stickies at the top fo the thread?!?!
i would like the espresso too but still not stable yet. really wonder when will the stable and working rom will be release...
use this one, its awesome! much better than the stock 1.5.... and then just wait for the future releases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611117&highlight=kagudroid
Okay so this may be a useless post and it is my first one so don't beat me up too badly. I have been searching all over the place to find a Froyo build with HTC Sense. It seems as though development has been halted because apparently Sense is too large for the Rhodium CPU and the screen resolution is too high. How can this be true when the Rhodium runs Sense in Windows Mobile 6.5? I want to see a Froyo build that has HTC Sense and camera support. Can or has this been done? Would someone be willing to do it if enough people were willing to donate? I just want my Rhodium to work the way I know it can. I know there is a 2.1 build with Sense but there is no camera and there are many bugs with it and is not useful to me. Any help is greatly appreciated.
If anyone finds any Froyo with sense builds for phones that are NOT the HD or HD2, please post a link to them in this forum.
Thank you.
Sense on WinMo != Sense on Android
So don't confuse them. Why do you want sense? It's just a big piece of bloat, and most of the things you can find in other places (IE Fancy Widget).
Sense in Winmo is native code, Sense in Android is Java. Unfortunately, the gains in terms of development ease gained with Java are offset by the inefficiencies of Java on lower-end hardware.
Also, the problem with Sense is that it needs to be ripped from a Sense-enabled HTC native Android device, and in many cases, the binary has enough customization that it does Bad Things on our devices.
As I understand it, the only Sense-enabled build seen on our devices so far was 2.1, and had, as you mention, resolution issues.
Also keep in mind that the Windows Mobile stock UI was very dated, so Sense was a major upgrade for it. My experience with Sense-enabled Android devices is that it offers very little and just slows the device down. Actually, this seems true for all manufacturer-provided alternate interfaces (like the crappiness of MOTOBLUR...)
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Sense in Winmo is native code, Sense in Android is Java. Unfortunately, the gains in terms of development ease gained with Java are offset by the inefficiencies of Java on lower-end hardware.
Also, the problem with Sense is that it needs to be ripped from a Sense-enabled HTC native Android device, and in many cases, the binary has enough customization that it does Bad Things on our devices.
As I understand it, the only Sense-enabled build seen on our devices so far was 2.1, and had, as you mention, resolution issues.
Also keep in mind that the Windows Mobile stock UI was very dated, so Sense was a major upgrade for it. My experience with Sense-enabled Android devices is that it offers very little and just slows the device down. Actually, this seems true for all manufacturer-provided alternate interfaces (like the crappiness of MOTOBLUR...)
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Just to back this up, I used one of Tiad's Froyo Sense builds for a bout 2 minutes. It it not worth it. Definitely, not worth it.
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Just to back this up, I used one of Tiad's Froyo Sense builds for a bout 2 minutes. It it not worth it. Definitely, not worth it.
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Where did you get Froyo Build from Tiad including Sense? AFAIK he just released Eclaire builds containing the UI...
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Where did you get Froyo Build from Tiad including Sense? AFAIK he just released Eclaire builds containing the UI...
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He claimed they were Froyo, I only looked at it literally for a minute and never noted what it actually was. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Eclaire.
Anyway, when I get this bloody repo sync command to go through without errors I will start making my own builds I guarantee, they will be better than Tiad, and I don't exactly plan on including any warez
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He claimed they were Froyo, I only looked at it literally for a minute and never noted what it actually was. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Eclaire.
Anyway, when I get this bloody repo sync command to go through without errors I will start making my own builds I guarantee, they will be better than Tiad, and I don't exactly plan on including any warez
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Are you going to make sense-builds or do you plan to develop on stock android ports?
Entropy512 said:
Sense in Winmo is native code, Sense in Android is Java. Unfortunately, the gains in terms of development ease gained with Java are offset by the inefficiencies of Java on lower-end hardware.
Also, the problem with Sense is that it needs to be ripped from a Sense-enabled HTC native Android device, and in many cases, the binary has enough customization that it does Bad Things on our devices.
As I understand it, the only Sense-enabled build seen on our devices so far was 2.1, and had, as you mention, resolution issues.
Also keep in mind that the Windows Mobile stock UI was very dated, so Sense was a major upgrade for it. My experience with Sense-enabled Android devices is that it offers very little and just slows the device down. Actually, this seems true for all manufacturer-provided alternate interfaces (like the crappiness of MOTOBLUR...)
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Thank you. This makes some sense of it (no pun intended). I know there are other widgets that use less resources and look better than sense but I like the look and feel of it. I am probably going to be upgrading to an Evo 4g or Evo 3g so I'll have my sense soon anyway but I was able to get some use from the 2.1 sense build once I used a new kernel and used the "clean slate" scene setting. The only thing missing was the camera. I can get by with some sluggishness as I have been using Windows Mobile for a long time but I cannot get by without that camera support seen in the newer 2.2 builds. Also, the Hero has the same CPU speed as the Rhodium. I am not sure if this makes much difference but the phones are very similar in both screen size and processor speed. As well as the Evo Shift as far as screen. I am still new to all this though and those subtle similarities may really be nothing. I'll keep searching and post if I find anything.
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Just to back this up, I used one of Tiad's Froyo Sense builds for a bout 2 minutes. It it not worth it. Definitely, not worth it.
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Where did you get those builds? That was the question I asked in the initial post lol. I love testing so I don't really care if they suck.
nickelghandi said:
Where did you get those builds? That was the question I asked in the initial post lol. I love testing so I don't really care if they suck.
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On his website, because tiad8 has been banned from xda-devs.
@nickelghandi
Maybe you can test the panda homescreen with sense theme.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2/113446-nsfw-post-your-tp2-android-home-screen-7.html
Hi,
Is there any way to install some of the Sense applications (Music, Video, Image player) on a HTC Touch Pro2 with the CBX0 Android ROM?. I have a Hero device with almost the same hardware and the Sense applications runs well and I´m use with these applications.
Regards,
clarf
clarf said:
Hi,
Is there any way to install some of the Sense applications (Music, Video, Image player) on a HTC Touch Pro2 with the CBX0 Android ROM?. I have a Hero device with almost the same hardware and the Sense applications runs well and I´m use with these applications.
Regards,
clarf
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If you can find the APK's, maybe.
But Sense is a proprietary thing. So it's not 'open' - not easily ported/moved to other devices. All XDAndroid builds are AOSP - straight from Google. All open source.
Good luck. If you want, there's a 2.1 Eclair Sense build - but it hasn't been updated since 2010.
arrrghhh said:
If you can find the APK's, maybe.
But Sense is a proprietary thing. So it's not 'open' - not easily ported/moved to other devices. All XDAndroid builds are AOSP - straight from Google. All open source.
Good luck. If you want, there's a 2.1 Eclair Sense build - but it hasn't been updated since 2010.
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Thanks for reply,
Well many functions on my HTC phone have issues with old kernel versions, I don´t think I could use Eclair Sense if it´s not maintained/updated.
I´ll search first for the APK´s then...
Thank you
clarf
clarf said:
Thanks for reply,
Well many functions on my HTC phone have issues with old kernel versions, I don´t think I could use Eclair Sense if it´s not maintained/updated.
I´ll search first for the APK´s then...
Thank you
clarf
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You could always try a new kernel on an old system...
But either way, that stuff is ancient.
Hey Guys,
How are you today?
Like all of you can read on the title I need a Chef for cooking my personal ROM for my T-Mobile HD HD2, which at the moment, for me, is the best device and will never die.
My ideas are based on 2 roms, CRACING ROM & NRGZ28 ROM, specifically on CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX and Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Jul.04.
Both of the Chefs, CRACING and NRGZ28, know what I asking for but currently they don't have time to put together my ideas.
Practically my Project is based on CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX ROM and first work is to start change 4 things in this rom, I will be glad to have this rom with Classic Home Tabs, like the stock roms, the Menu/Start on top left corner, like the original 1, background of the small clock on top right corner white and the numbers of the clock black and upgrade some specs ecc. Is not becouse is not good, absolutely, is amazing rom, but I like the rom in different mode. Is just me, nothing is wrong with this roms but I pretend something for me.
Also I want to keep alive this ROMs.
After this 4 changes I will be happy to put into the CRACING rom all the Applications, Tweeks, Lunch Android and Set-ups like or from the Energy ROM, but keeping the full style and full ROM of CRACING, Folders, Themes, almost everything.
Also if we are inside that rom it will be good to upgrade the speed, graphics and ad more progs which I know, for speed and graphics just if is possible.
The most important thing, and I said MOST IMPORTANT, is the BATTERY.
The battery have to stay charge long as he can.
Guys, Chefs, Anybody, I am ignorant in this stuff and I can't do this job, so I will pay for the work if someone EXPERT can do this for me.
Like my Avatar, I need a brain for my machine!
My offer strat from 100 USD to make the small few changes on the CRACING ROM CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX,
and the payment for the work go up if all my request will be made by a Chef to cooking my ROM based on what I already said.
Who is with me?
Please, do not tell me "stick with some rom" or " it can't be done" or any excuses, I know it can be done but just by an expert in this section.
Anyone?
Folks, if my offer is too low just let me know how much it will cost to make my project.
I am serious about this, for someone maybe crazy, but I want do this.
Let me know.
You could try making the rom on your own, its pretty easy to make a rom once you learn the basics. To add all your extras and create a perfect rom that suits you can take some time, especially finding them and checking the battery drain. Since you want something like CRACING's rom use his kitchen and then add the extras you need.
Suhaib10 said:
You could try making the rom on your own, its pretty easy to make a rom once you learn the basics. To add all your extras and create a perfect rom that suits you can take some time, especially finding them and checking the battery drain. Since you want something like CRACING's rom use his kitchen and then add the extras you need.
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I understand, but I really need help from someone who know how do this. I really can't do this by my own, I cry just to understand how I can upgrade my HTC, is not the job for me now and I want a massive ROM soon as is possible. I know we are in the community where nobody sell they roms but I asking for help of experts who can do this work. Is not so easy and I know the hard work of this people so I will pay, for real. If someone don't believe me i will pay in advance 50%.
Someone said, why do you not upgrade with Android? I will, not now, currently I have all what is working well with Windows Mobile 6.5.
Think also about that; I have a BMW M3 and I go to Garage Racing (I can do some work on my engine but everything I can't do by myself) so I asking to performing my engine like I like.
So here we are! Who can do this work?
I could try making it but haven't really made roms for hd2 the only one i made for was my HTC Hermes few years back. I'll download Cracings kitchen and try it if i still remember the stuff let you know tommorow or the day after if i can still cook roms, since i'm busy with school stuff these days. If i can i'll be glad to help you, but no promises yet.
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I could try making it but haven't really made roms for hd2 the only one i made for was my HTC Hermes few years back. I'll download Cracings kitchen and try it if i still remember the stuff let you know tommorow or the day after if i can still cook roms, since i'm busy with school stuff these days. If i can i'll be glad to help you, but no promises yet.
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thanks, I appreciate. I hope you can.
When you try to do some changes on the CR192 DHD v6.5.3.1.5 VGTX ROM start with few basic changes which I will like to change, like:
Classic (Original stock) Home Screen Tabs inside the Sense, from Left to Right - all with style of the actual CRASING ROM.
Menu/Start on top left corner, like the stock one. (Original)
Background of the digital clock on top right corner, switch from black to the colour of the theme, should be white, and make the numbers of the clock Black, which right now are white.
We (you) try to do this for the beginning, later we think about the remaining stuffs.
Let me know,
Thanks.
PS: Anyone want help are welcome!!
Ok so last night downloaded two kitchen Cracings and GhostX's and tried them out. CRACINGS was something brand new for me and was a bit confusing but ii tried it out tried adding wm 6.5 build but had issues and not was not sure what to do. The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
Sorry but I think I might give up soon
but if you want something clean and stable with good battery and more than 270mb free with sense try : CleanEX RV Standard v1.02 WM 6.5 CHOOSE STANDARD 1.02 i flash back to it when i feel wp7 is too restricted like right now (*sigh* I'm addicted to flashing roms, I flash a new rom each month sometimes more frequent)
and if you want to make sense look like Cracing's rom: try this GTX THEME 1.8.5 it should work with that rom I think.
i'll try to see if i can get the rom to work if not you can always try my suggestion above and if you need help with somethin let me know
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Ok so last night downloaded two kitchen Cracings and GhostX's and tried them out. CRACINGS was something brand new for me and was a bit confusing but ii tried it out tried adding wm 6.5 build but had issues and not was not sure what to do. The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
Sorry but I think I might give up soon
but if you want something clean and stable with good battery and more than 270mb free with sense try : CleanEX RV Standard v1.02 WM 6.5 CHOOSE STANDARD 1.02 i flash back to it when i feel wp7 is too restricted like right now (*sigh* I'm addicted to flashing roms, I flash a new rom each month sometimes more frequent)
and if you want to make sense look like Cracing's rom: try this GTX THEME 1.8.5 it should work with that rom I think.
i'll try to see if i can get the rom to work if not you can always try my suggestion above and if you need help with somethin let me know
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No man, DON'T GIVE UP!
At the moment you are the only one who try to help me, see this thread, is dead!
if I lose you I will lose any hope.
I spoke to CRACING before open this section and maybe he don't know about this thread but he said he will help if I need too, so contact him and explain which problems you find to change his rom, also send the link of this thread and said I told you to contact him.
You already have the visual of his kitchen so you know what ask.
I try to contact him as well.
I saw the 2 link which you sended to me and is not the same, the ROM CleanEX RV has issue and the Theme GTX is different, is close but different and I will stick with something which is not working properly.
I also agree about WM7, is too restricted.
Let me know.
Cheers.
@Suhaib10
I too was using OSKitchen earlier but later I found it had memory leaks and etc which I don't remember now. OSBuilder is bit complex and takes some time to understand things. If there is a lil mistake, either ROM won't build or device won't boot up. But for professionals, its a great kitchen.
For making easier to people, I have included the kitchen I used to build ROM. If you tried to use it with your kitchen, either it would be osbuilder or etc, you will face major issues.
Wish I could help eclyptos but I no longer have HD2 to test and more busy in life. Not just my house construction (its almost over) but many different things. No time for learning programming languages that helps for develop things on android. :|
And acutully ROM cooking is not that easy. It takes lots of time and research. You will never endup in stable and/or bugfree ROM, even if you do then you will be a master. So becoming a master, Isn't so easy.
eclyptos just doesn't want stuffs in ROM but want to have WM6.1, So its a bit difficult job and things won't workout as expected.
Best of luck, eclyptos.
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eclyptos just doesn't want stuffs in ROM but want to have WM6.1, So its a bit difficult job and things won't workout as expected.
Best of luck, eclyptos.
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I don't know how it is work but should be WM6.1 with Sense, because if you say just WM6.1 somebody get confused because WM6.1 don't have Manilla or Sense or something like that. I hope keep you rom with modify Sense, like the stock ROM (Original One).
Thanks for the Good Luck, I (We) will need that.
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The other kitchen was somewhat familiar since i used oskitchen for my hermes so decided to add the latest 6.5 build which worked but i couldn't get CRACINGS GTX Sense theme to work found a Project which i think CRACINGS theme is based of tried using that imported great tried bulding a rom. The build was successful but got an error while flashing half way through, probably the size since it was around 450mb and i have EUR HD2 so yeah.
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this is something, I can't understand exactly what you did but something you build, anyway if your HD2 is the EU and you can't test the rom, I can, actually I don't use HD2 becouse is not ready, I use my old Diamond 2.
if I brick the phone you will be not paid, ha ha ha :laugh:
Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
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I kinda forgot most of things now but I think I learn t my self and some help from OSbuilder developers and senior developers. Yes osbuilder is used for wp7 now but works for both. I guess I have seen guides for cooking ROMs using osbuilder but have to search again. If I find any, will let you know.
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AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
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WM6.5 had startmenu on top left? well, I cannot remember well. All I remember now is wm6.1 had startmenu on top and wm6.5 on bottom.
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P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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if you face any troubles, just post it here. even if I don't remember in forehead, they will be present in my back head.
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this is something, I can't understand exactly what you did but something you build, anyway if your HD2 is the EU and you can't test the rom, I can, actually I don't use HD2 becouse is not ready, I use my old Diamond 2.
if I brick the phone you will be not paid, ha ha ha :laugh:
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Tmous/US HD2 or EU HD2 doesn't matter. my kitchen uses latest kernel and drivers which supports both devices. That also means a single ROM of mine supports both devices.
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I don't know how it is work but should be WM6.1 with Sense, because if you say just WM6.1 somebody get confused because WM6.1 don't have Manilla or Sense or something like that. I hope keep you rom with modify Sense, like the stock ROM (Original One).
Thanks for the Good Luck, I (We) will need that.
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well if you just wanted WM6.1 without sense and/or any htc stuffs, that wasn't a difficult job.
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Hey CRACING thanks for the tip. Do you know any good guide for wm rom building using OSBUILDER since the ones i found were mainly for wp7
AND eclyptos i'm a bit confused do you want a 6.1 rom or 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
P.S. i'm currently trying to figure out osbuilder, but will take some time before i start making a rom.
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I don't know which kitchen you looking for but I find this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774430
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don't be confused! I told you, I want CRACING rom but with this few different things. (if possible)
That not mean don't exist ROM like CRASING with Start on top left corner and Classic Home Tabs like in the Stocks ROMs AND also with 4 columns of Quick Links.
CRACING is confused because I told him about the ENERGY ROM (Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Jul.04) which is based on OS version 5.2.21916 (21916.5.0.93) but is Windows Mobile 6.5 Pro, he said is WM 6.1 and i don't know why?
CRACING roms is based on OS 23153 and 29022, maybe this is the difference because all the time when I try to find the roms ONLY 21916 was the rom set-up in the mode like I like.
That's mean probably is WM 6.5 COM2 (the stock type with start on top left)
I hope I clarified.
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well if you just wanted WM6.1 without sense and/or any htc stuffs, that wasn't a difficult job.
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no, I don't want WM 6.1, I told you, we had some misunderstanding, the Energy rom is Windows Mobile 6.5 with Manila 2.5.20212114.0 but is based on different OS version so can't be 6.1 and like I said to Suhaib10 I don't understand why you said so?
All the time when I search for Custom ROM I have to look for the OS version to understand in which mode is made.
Maybe if we do your ROM, all the same, but based on OS 21916 maybe we solve the problem?
I don't know, I just try to figure out what we can do.
Also if I understood right your rom is from desire HD device, right?
or maybe I don't understood nothing, so never mind!
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Maybe if we do your ROM, all the same, but based on OS 21916 maybe we solve the problem?
I don't know, I just try to figure out what we can do.
Also if I understood right your rom is from desire HD device, right?
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I think I confused. Yes WM 6.5 (those are 217XX, 218XX and 219XX) have startmenu on top and WM6.5.X (those are 216XX, 22XXX, 23XXX, 28XXX, 29XXX) have startmenu on bottom.
My older ROMs before CR192 DHD 0.3 was using WM6.5 (startmenu on top) but was using OSKitchen. I have attached screenshot below and also I have the ROM.
So finally is that what you wanted? If you don't mind about older packages (of courses should have because it os build itself is old) and minor bugs, I can upload for you.
P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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I think I confused. Yes WM 6.5 (those are 217XX, 218XX and 219XX) have startmenu on top and WM6.5.X (those are 216XX, 22XXX, 23XXX, 28XXX, 29XXX) have startmenu on bottom.
My older ROMs before CR192 DHD 0.3 was using WM6.5 (startmenu on top) but was using OSKitchen. I have attached screenshot below and also I have the ROM.
So finally is that what you wanted? If you don't mind about older packages (of courses should have because it os build itself is old) and minor bugs, I can upload for you.
P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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Thats the one he is most likely talking about since 21916 is 6.5.
By the way CRACING i managed to get the 21916 build in your kitchen. Are there any extra components that i need to remove other than CHT to get stock Sense sliding bar and no extra widgets.
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P.s but you are looking for same ROM with gtx theme isn't it?
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YES, we are close, the type of the rom is exactly like in the pics but I will be glad if the ROM will be like your GTX (or Theme).
That's mean have to have all, 4 columns Quick links, Taskbar icons, Tweeks, Folders exc...
I also saw after the installation of Opera 10 on your rom GTX, the icon of the Opera was a little old, graphically bad, was not really nice. The official original T-Mobile ROM for HD2 has amazing nice icons for the app after I try one, so maybe we have to update the .dll of the icons to get the latest stylish type of icons after we solve the OS issue.
:fingers-crossed:
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Thats the one he is most likely talking about since 21916 is 6.5.
By the way CRACING i managed to get the 21916 build in your kitchen. Are there any extra components that i need to remove other than CHT to get stock Sense sliding bar and no extra widgets.
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good, good, keep going...:good: