Are there retail component cables available for TV out on an HTC device? If there aren't, is there a work around/DIY solution?VGA/S-Video/possibly HDMI....ANY ideas/ contributions are appreciated!
Seems to me it is a software issue and a cable one. The device can only put out NTSC/PAL. Composite video only requires one wire. Component would need 3. Where would the extra pins come from (in the USB connector)?
Wouldnt higher quality S-video still be possible though?
Not sure if this will work for you guys, but I used the multi-adapter that came with my Touch Pro2 and a 3.5mm jack to composite cable to get TV out from my TP2. Basically, it was a cable that came with my camcorder. I had to remove/cut the blue wire inside the multi-adapter to get it to work. It works automatically without additional software. I found the information from another poster at PPCGeeks.com. I would have provided a link, but since I'm a noob, this site would not allow me. Good luck. Hope this information helps.
Mossesman said:
Not sure if this will work for you guys, but I used the multi-adapter that came with my Touch Pro2 and a 3.5mm jack to composite cable to get TV out from my TP2. Basically, it was a cable that came with my camcorder. I had to remove/cut the blue wire inside the multi-adapter to get it to work. It works automatically without additional software. I found the information from another poster at PPCGeeks.com. I would have provided a link, but since I'm a noob, this site would not allow me. Good luck. Hope this information helps.
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Thanks for your response and yes this does work as I have been using this solution for about two months now and it's "okay" at best...I am still looking for something that would enable at least a "clean" 480p picture with every pixel cleanly represented without all the noise of the composite cables....
I am planning on getting a tv out cable from the following website as soon as my TP2 arrives (hopefully on tuesday):
http://shop.lab88.co.za/pL88OL-61/HTC-TV-Out-for-Pro--Pro-2.aspx
The cable sells for R188.00 approx. $25.00
They are the official importers of HTC devices in my country and their prices are very reasonable.
try sparkfun.com and search for 'extusb'. if you are feeling adventurous like me then go for the cheap one (style 1) otherwise go for the one with the breakout board. either way, its good fun but be prepared for anything. you should have a bit of knowledge on how to solder though. tried it myself and it worked but with all the bare wires hanging out of the video cable it's in a box somewhere in the garage, lol.
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Thanks for your response and yes this does work as I have been using this solution for about two months now and it's "okay" at best...I am still looking for something that would enable at least a "clean" 480p picture with every pixel cleanly represented without all the noise of the composite cables....
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I'm not sure if that is possible since the output of the device is not digital. And even with a USB to composite cable, the data will still be in analog. Good luck with your search and please provide an update if you find anything. Thanks.
Im thinking "S-Video" would be achievable, no? Anyone have thoughts?
If you google for "composite-to-s-video" you get lots of little adapters for under $10, so it can obviously be done, but I doubt the video quality can improve. You also see decoders that cost $150.
If you look at the product description here
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-SVC2-Jack-S-Video-Converter/dp/B0002KR7G8
it actually says the quality won't be better than the original composite.
It's a huge sight, but it is a better question to research over here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/
I think component PAL output is created through hardware, as running video at the absolute highest quality without dropping frames still runs perfect(on the phone) when i click in the video output. if this was done in software then it would slow down the video.(tested with fast moving scenes at really high h264 bitrates in full res so it would be noticable)
The only way i can see it working is if you "somehow" send the screen output over a normal usb connection to an external device which then created the composit output. This would have to be done in software which would be slow and inefficent if it would even be possible at all. If your trying to say... play video at a higher quality then PAL along with software running in the background outputting to said device... well yeah it just wont happen.
What exactly are u trying to do? if its something other then video like presentation u might be able to set up a webserver on the phone(pretty sure there is already software to do this) and take screenshots(software to do this too) and generate webpages in a higher quality that u can see on a computer ect that can plug into a TV
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Im thinking "S-Video" would be achievable, no? Anyone have thoughts?
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it definatly could, get the av to svid adapter from radio shack or somewhere
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i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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Search for these kind of cables:
http://www.nextag.com/Cables-to-Go-25FT-61235427/prices-html?nxtg=28c70a1c052e-34FA18FCC0551E95
RGB to VGA
monkeyturnip said:
i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
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I'm with you. I wanted to use a PC monitor for Remote Desktop control of a couple of PCs and servers with the TP2 (as I do with the Athena). Using the TP video out and converter cables will have the cables outweigh the phone by a factor of about 2 to 1.
I believe the output on the Blackstone is composite, not component in which case I don't think that would work.
Although you can get active converters to convert composite video to VGA/RGBHV, there will be a considerable loss of quality, especially in the fine detail. Basically, it will look very blurry.
There's plenty of them on Ebay, search for EXTUSB video , or "Touch pro video"
Yep, bought one of those composite/VGA converter boxes and can definitely confirm the loss of quality/bluriness. Also too bulky to carry around conveniently and requires a power supply. Hooked my Archos up yesterday (TP2 arrived today...!) just to remind myself, as it has the same screen res and also outputs via composite and apart from it being blurry, the image also flickers, which is quite annoying. Hadn't really noticed it before, cause it's not that noticable when watching video, but when viewing text or a presentation, that would be seriously off-putting! May just be my converter box, but thinking about the conversions the signal has to go through, I can't belive other converters are going to be much better.
BO$$
"Reqiures powersupply" ?
I cannot remeber that I used power supply with it, but yes, it does have a power-supply connector to allow charging while using tv-out.
Appologies, I was posting without properly referencing the post I was replying to.
I was relpying to crypticalpha's post, regarding composite to VGA converters. My converter box requires a powersupply in order to output a picture on the monitor/projector, else you can only get sound.
Since I have not yet held my TP2 in my hands, nor owned the TP1, I cannot comment on its TV out functionality.
I had assumed the phone itself would not be required to be connected to a power source, but it is actually good to hear that confirmed!
Kind Regards
BO$$
i think this one does work. and its cheap aswell
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
I bought a HTC adaptor for charging & 3.5 headphones etc. Then I thought I'd be clever and save money and use a Nokia N95 TV out cable, but when I plug it in the TP2 sees it as Headphones.
Any ideas of how to get it working?
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i think this one does work. and its cheap aswell
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
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I can vouch for this being a good, cheap TV out cable; I bought it and it works well - the USB and 3.5mm jacks also work so you can plug a secondary sound source in or charge / sync it as well as using the TV out functionality.
One 'problem' though: using Core Player without the TV cable, the video playback is smooth as a baby's bum: with the TV out cable, it's slightly choppy. Is this to be expected or does anyone know how to improve video playback through TV cable? If so, it makes a great solution to travelling and being able to bring good TV and films with you on the phone!
Greetings Programs!
I currently have a 3.5mm to RCA cable which works for the Samsung Captivate, and it seems that Verizon removed video out support on the Fascinate. I have a rooted Fascinate, and I wanted to know if anyone is working on, or has successfully been get video output working on the device. I am 99% it is possible since I have looked in the 3.5mm jack and I see the video connector.
I was thinking that maybe a ROM based on another Galaxy S device may unlock the feature?
I was reading another thread on this same subject and others also seem to think that we have the same hardware in the jack. I would be willing to pet this feature will be implemented into a ROM as long as its possible, and I find that to be highly likely, as long as it does in fact have the hardware.
I am not a developer nor do I know if the captivate people have a system dump yet or not, but when they do and a ROM is cooked up, it should find its way to us fascinate users.
Heres a Captivate system dump... I am looking through it now to try to find anything useful. forum.xda-developers[DOT]com/showthread.php?t=730226
Any ROM developers here that want to add this to their ROM?
Even though I have no ideal how its supposed to charge the device Samsung says that a usb to hdmi is on its way. I would like a HD solution myself, but the RCA method mentioned here would do good if its a great deal cheaper than the $50 Dollar cable.
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Even though I have no ideal how its supposed to charge the device Samsung says that a usb to hdmi is on its way. I would like a HD solution myself, but the RCA method mentioned here would do good if its a great deal cheaper than the $50 Dollar cable.
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Where did you read this? I know that a couple of news briefs and blog posts said it was out, but I also heard that a Samsung rep (granted, this was on twitter ...) said that it was an error on their website, and that this particular cable (which I have not found a single real owner of one yet!) wasn't even originally meant for the GALAXY S devices.
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Where did you read this? I know that a couple of news briefs and blog posts said it was out, but I also heard that a Samsung rep (granted, this was on twitter ...) said that it was an error on their website, and that this particular cable (which I have not found a single real owner of one yet!) wasn't even originally meant for the GALAXY S devices.
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Ive seen a few people in other galaxy s variant forums that ordered the cable and couldn't get it to work, Samsung was supposed to fix this with the froyo update, however, I ordered mine from daydeal and the day the order was supposed to ship I got an email from them saying that it had been recalled so they may have pulled the plug on hd out
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Where did you read this? I know that a couple of news briefs and blog posts said it was out, but I also heard that a Samsung rep (granted, this was on twitter ...) said that it was an error on their website, and that this particular cable (which I have not found a single real owner of one yet!) wasn't even originally meant for the GALAXY S devices.
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Do a search for usb to hdmi. You will find a page called dealtime if I remember, that will lead to Samsung saying it doesnt work for the US models, but one is coming.
Well I don't need HDMI output... I am working on a project that needs RCA output.
Hopefully a custom ROM and/or the Froyo update will solve everything.
Check this out. If i had 20 bucks to try it out I would.
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=45332&cat=5155
From what I was told all you had to do was plug it in and whatever showed up on the phone showed up on the TV.
I also heard that Samsung will officially be supporting this with the release of 2.2 which should be out by the end of October. A rep told me that it will be an app on the phone where you can display one thing on the tv while having another app open on the phone..
EXAMPLE: If you have a tv in your car you can play a movie on the tv, while looking at the navigation on the phone.
PS- I wont believe it, til I see it.
Got that cable for like 9.99
Won't work until someone ports tv out from another galaxy s variant, or we get 2.2.
Any updates on this?i have a fascinate from telus and the head phone jack works but you see it very distord and scrambled..think it is software??
techker said:
Any updates on this?i have a fascinate from telus and the head phone jack works but you see it very distord and scrambled..think it is software??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963998
I don't know how close the telus and vzw fascinates are but someone is/was working on it.
Telus is essentially the Captivate,look there.
Samsung Fascinate, Verizon
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Hey guys, im not a developer but the tv out through the 3.5mm jack works but only get sd quality. Heres how i got mine to work the cheapest way. I used my 3.5 mm jack cable to rca ends(red,yellow,white) cable. These usually come with your digital cameras or portable dvd players. Or get them at the dollar store for a few bucks. You have to pull the jack about 1-3 mm out after plugging it all the way in the headphone jack and then Switch the yellow (video) cord with either the white or red cord. Google it, theres been others with success and cheap. Cheers!
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Hey guys, im not a developer but the tv out through the 3.5mm jack works but only get sd quality. Heres how i got mine to work the cheapest way. I used my 3.5 mm jack cable to rca ends(red,yellow,white) cable. These usually come with your digital cameras or portable dvd players. Or get them at the dollar store for a few bucks. You have to pull the jack about 1-3 mm out after plugging it all the way in the headphone jack and then Switch the yellow (video) cord with either the white or red cord. Google it, theres been others with success and cheap. Cheers!
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And you're doing this with the VZW Fascinate? SCH-i500? I don't buy it.
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Hey guys, im not a developer but the tv out through the 3.5mm jack works but only get sd quality. Heres how i got mine to work the cheapest way. I used my 3.5 mm jack cable to rca ends(red,yellow,white) cable. These usually come with your digital cameras or portable dvd players. Or get them at the dollar store for a few bucks. You have to pull the jack about 1-3 mm out after plugging it all the way in the headphone jack and then Switch the yellow (video) cord with either the white or red cord. Google it, theres been others with success and cheap. Cheers!
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Yea, I'm not sure I buy this either. Explain how you get it to work.
I would vomit from laughing so hard if it was that easy hahahahaha
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Im have the telus samsung fascinate. it works but only standard definition. the only setting you have to set is the "tv out" on the phone. "setting" ---> " display" ----> "tv out" switch to on. YOu can laugh all you want but im just trying to tell you that it works. Not all video rca jacks are the same. You have to try a couple. I actually bought one from the dollar store that works. As i said plug in the mini jack to rca like this one
once the mini jack is plugged in the phone, turn on the "tv out" setting in the phone. Then plug the red cord into the video input(yellow) of the tv. you will initially get a scrambled signal on the tv but slowly pull out the mini jack from the phone about 1-3 mm from the base. Its touchy and not perfect by any means but works. Until they come up with the video out on the usb socket then this will have to do. I doubt they will but you never know. cheers!
use this one i ordered it and it works fine
cgi.ebay.com/3-5mm-RCA-TV-Out-AV-Cable-Samsung-i500-Fascinate-/270727407846?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f089c68e6
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Im have the telus samsung fascinate. it works but only standard definition. the only setting you have to set is the "tv out" on the phone. "setting" ---> " display" ----> "tv out" switch to on. YOu can laugh all you want but im just trying to tell you that it works. Not all video rca jacks are the same. You have to try a couple. I actually bought one from the dollar store that works. As i said plug in the mini jack to rca like this one
once the mini jack is plugged in the phone, turn on the "tv out" setting in the phone. Then plug the red cord into the video input(yellow) of the tv. you will initially get a scrambled signal on the tv but slowly pull out the mini jack from the phone about 1-3 mm from the base. Its touchy and not perfect by any means but works. Until they come up with the video out on the usb socket then this will have to do. I doubt they will but you never know. cheers!
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Unfourtunately, the Verizon Fascinate does not have the TV-Out option in the settings, and has never had one in the first place.
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im going to go out on a limb here and say most people still use tvs with RCA (red yellow white), over HDMI.. my galaxy s1, i can plug in my cord to the red yellow blue in the back of my tv, and into my headphone jack and play movies on my tv.. the galaxy s2 seems to be missing this feature.. is it there somewhere, or is it really gone?! why would they get rid of it.. is it because they added MHL? (something great, but something many wont be able to take advantage of)? i mean its not hurting anything by leaving it there.. it used to be in Settings>Display> TV Out ..why couldnt they just leave both.. they did that everywhere in the phone.. added picture editor and removed adjusting picture in the camera, added video editor and removed ability to pause video while recording.. wtf samsung... ihy
I agree, I wish they had kept both, but I guess it would have required more space and had to go for design reasons.
I disagree. If you can afford a £500 phone I don't think it's unreasonable for Samsung to assume you have a television with HDMI. After all, every TV made in the last 10 years supports the standard. I don't even have anything that outputs over composite cables any more.
For the rest of us, this is a step forward.
I agree with above post. RCA over my 55inch TV would look like crap.
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A better question in that case may be, why launch your flagship device without the cables to enable all the functionality you have advertised.
If you're on a 12 month contract, that feature is obviously not available to you for at least 1/12th of your term.......
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I disagree. If you can afford a £500 phone I don't think it's unreasonable for Samsung to assume you have a television with HDMI. After all, every TV made in the last 10 years supports the standard. I don't even have anything that outputs over composite cables any more.
For the rest of us, this is a step forward.
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Disagree.
Sure, I have an HD television, but I live in NZ and many others don't, so it would be nice to have the option because it offers versatility. Just because your use doesn't need it, doesn't mean that is true for others. Since when does moving forward with HDMI out connections neccessitate the removal of other options? The original GS Tab has both, and since SD Out shares an existing connector its a shame that the legacy connection option isn't available here. I suspect it simply wasn't possible to shoehorn it into the small shell on offer here, but that doesn't mean I can't be disappointed its not present, does it?
Its also far cheaper to get a TV Out cable for the 3.5mm jack, and its available now.
The output doesn't actually look too bad either - check out my youtube channel for some video examples of SGSI SD TV Out.
You can't really expect manufacturers to support all old standards forever. Eventually they just have to be dropped...
You can always use HDMI-to-component converters or something similar.
The official Samsung HDMI adapter doesn't look to be out for quite a while yet but there's one by BizLite over at Mobile Fun that should be in over the next fortnight (website says 9-14 days)
Cheaper than the official one too. Agreed that it's quite annoying having no TV-out on the 3.5mm jack!
rca adapter is nice because then we can hook it up in our cars.. but i guess you guys might not have screens in your car then =/
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rca adapter is nice because then we can hook it up in our cars.. but i guess you guys might not have screens in your car then =/
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Or might that good units have hdmi input anyway, so that's not such a big issue.
hey guys such a great forum here, I have hardware background and electronics edducation. close but not enough to figure this one out on my own. I an dreaming of using a usb camera from an old laptop inside this great tablet. I am sure there is a hope it can be done to the willing souls. I am willing to tinker and solder etc. that's what I like. I have a stereo speakers added great sound now. just wish for camera to be able to video chat.
I hope someone can get me clues how to start. thanks in advace.
From what I understand the problem is that the Nook cannot recognize the USB connected cam, but it can power the cam. I have heard about some people that use Wi-Fi enabled cams, and the tablet can see it.
I have seen people use cams that clip to the top of the Laptop, then plug into USB. This prompted a silly idea in my head.
I have heard of security cameras that transmit over Wi-fi, and Im picturing a setup that would basically be a security camera clamped to the top of the Nook, then powered from the USB. It would be a little odd, and take some research, but thats the Frankenstein monster type thing that I have so far.
Just my silly addition to the brainstorm.
only think it wont work to to use wifi to see camera and chat on wifi! I think. not portable.
Hi there,
I'm looking for a line-level output for my Galaxy 7.7.
I can't seem to find anything that specifically mentions the 7.7 but have read that the 30 pin Samsung connector is compatible across all devices.
There are line level outputs on eBay (sorry, can't post links yet) that say they work with the galaxy tab P1000 and other galaxy tabs... Will these work with the 7.7?
What I would ideally like is something that will allow me to attach a USB DAC to the device to bypass the Galaxy DAC... but until we get ICS that's not going to happen (and I have my fingers crossed that ICS will actually allow for it)
Thanks,
Paul
NikonUser said:
Hi there,
I'm looking for a line-level output for my Galaxy 7.7.
I can't seem to find anything that specifically mentions the 7.7 but have read that the 30 pin Samsung connector is compatible across all devices.
There are line level outputs on eBay (sorry, can't post links yet) that say they work with the galaxy tab P1000 and other galaxy tabs... Will these work with the 7.7?
What I would ideally like is something that will allow me to attach a USB DAC to the device to bypass the Galaxy DAC... but until we get ICS that's not going to happen (and I have my fingers crossed that ICS will actually allow for it)
Thanks,
Paul
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as of ics 4.0.3 on sgs2 there is still no support for usb dac looking forward to seeing a usb dac working on adroid phones also
I bought something from amazon and got audio out. The video out does not work however. I will send it to you in a PM since this site won't let me post the link due to me having less than 8 posts.
I would absolutely LOVE a feature that bypasses the internal DAC. Is that kind of thing really available via ICS? If so ... I might have just made a mess in my pants
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I bought something from amazon and got audio out. The video out does not work however. I will send it to you in a PM since this site won't let me post the link due to me having less than 8 posts.
I would absolutely LOVE a feature that bypasses the internal DAC. Is that kind of thing really available via ICS? If so ... I might have just made a mess in my pants
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Thanks for the link. I will check it out.
You can keep your pants mess free for now. After doing a bit of reading it appears that ICS didn't enable USB host mode for audio like everyone thought it would. It is very high on the list of official feature requests/bug reports on the google code site. If you can find it then go and vote for it. Maybe Google will listen and offer an update soon.
Fingers crossed.
Paul
Ok... you want to output sound from your tablet to other equipment, right? Start by turning the volume down in the tablet, connect the headphones output of the tablet to the input of the device you want, start raising the volume to a little bit under clipping level of your other device, or before you hear distorted sound. When you're done, just start recording or whatever you are trying to do.
Anyway, there's no point to have a digital or high quality audio output in a tablet because they're not designed for that, even if you do it before DAC, your files are compresed (MP3, etc) right? . Do you have an extremely high quality song in your device?, if you do, you're probably a sound engineer, a professional musician or an audiophile and if that's the case you'll transfer the media to a more professional device or a dedicated media player.
For example, those cellphones that have hdmi output, yes is a good idea to connect it to your TV right? now, do you think the video you are playing through it has a great sound quality? NO, specially if it's some internet video... Putting things more simple: the audio quality of the actual media that's coming out your tablet 98% of the time does not have the quality to merit a digital/high end connection.
Now, there's a brand called COWON that has the best sound quality in media players, (Yes, best sound quality by far over Aple, Samsung, Sony, you name it, this is not because I say so, do some research and you'll be surprised) they don't make Tabs sorry. So if you really are concerned about audio quality, you should convert your music to Flac instead of MP3 and go for a device like that, otherwise you are wasting your money in technology when your source doesn't have the quality to match it.
You see what I mean? a Tablet is a portable all in one device, for high end video and sound you need a more dedicated device
Do they have a cellphone or tablet with a hdmi output? what do they have in there? a Bluray movie? it would be soooo compressed that it loses the point of having a HDMI output.... why? because compression equals lower quality. So it's like having a Ferrari with bicycle wheels... Doesn't matter what the vendors tell you, to have a HDMI output in a cellphone it's just ridiculous, and whoever has it they probably use it a couple of times and they forgot about it because there's really no point on that. The only thing I can think of having a HDMI output in a tablet is maybe someone that needs to make a video presentation, maybe through a projector, something like that, and you don't need high end audio for that. The Tablet makers don't care if 1 person out of a million needs it, would you? And... Actually do they really need that? or it's more to impress their girlfriend or a neighbour? F*** That!! Right?
I'm not trying to offend anyone here, I'm just trying to help you understand that it really is pointless....
The technology will evolve eventually and we will have better audio hardware in our tablets.... and a lot more memory to have those HD files that we really can't right now...But by then,,,, are you going to enjoy that quality in a $14.99 headphones?
With all this I'm not saying be happy with the crappy sound your device could have. I actually returned a few days ago a Galaxy Player 4.0 because I didn't like it's sound quality, I'm buying (when it comes out) a Cowon Z2..... can't wait. (if I have the money by then)
Take care guys, I hope I helped a least a little...
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Ok... you want to output sound from your tablet to other equipment, right?
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Right.
Dusko75 said:
Start by turning the volume down in the tablet, connect the headphones output of the tablet to the input of the device you want, start raising the volume to a little bit under clipping level of your other device, or before you hear distorted sound. When you're done, just start recording or whatever you are trying to do.
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The whole idea of getting a line-level output would be to bypass the internal (low quality) amp of the tablet and NOT have to play around with the volume trying to avoid clipping etc
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Anyway, there's no point to have a digital or high quality audio output in a tablet because they're not designed for that, even if you do it before DAC, your files are compresed (MP3, etc) right? .
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Eer, no. They are uncompressed FLAC files.
Maybe there is no point in YOUR tablet having a digital or high quality output... but that is NOT the case for me. Ideally I would like to hook the tablet up to an external DAC and/or Headphone amp (ideally a DAC and amp) and using it as a highly mobile, high quality source to listen to some high-end headphones for when I am away from home for a while.
Dusko75 said:
Do you have an extremely high quality song in your device?, if you do, you're probably a sound engineer, a professional musician or an audiophile and if that's the case you'll transfer the media to a more professional device or a dedicated media player.
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Yes I do, and no I am not a sound engineer or a pro musician. I wouldn't consider myself an audiophile either, but I do enjoy audio and would like to do so when I am away from my home setup.
Dusko75 said:
For example, those cellphones that have hdmi output, yes is a good idea to connect it to your TV right? now, do you think the video you are playing through it has a great sound quality? NO, specially if it's some internet video... Putting things more simple: the audio quality of the actual media that's coming out your tablet 98% of the time does not have the quality to merit a digital/high end connection.
Now, there's a brand called COWON that has the best sound quality in media players, (Yes, best sound quality by far over Aple, Samsung, Sony, you name it, this is not because I say so, do some research and you'll be surprised) they don't make Tabs sorry. So if you really are concerned about audio quality, you should convert your music to Flac instead of MP3 and go for a device like that, otherwise you are wasting your money in technology when your source doesn't have the quality to match it.
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OK... I used to have a COWON D2. It was great. I now have a tablet and don't want to carry around heaps of devices and associated chargers if possible.
Dusko75 said:
You see what I mean? a Tablet is a portable all in one device, for high end
video and sound you need a more dedicated device
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No you don't. If Google would enable us to attach a USB DAC via a software update then you wouldn't need anything more than a tablet and good quality files. Failing that a line-out that bypasses the internal amp would suffice for most.
Dusko75 said:
Do they have a cellphone or tablet with a hdmi output? what do they have in there? a Bluray movie? it would be soooo compressed that it loses the point of having a HDMI output.... why? because compression equals lower quality. So it's like having a Ferrari with bicycle wheels... Doesn't matter what the vendors tell you, to have a HDMI output in a cellphone it's just ridiculous, and whoever has it they probably use it a couple of times and they forgot about it because there's really no point on that. The only thing I can think of having a HDMI output in a tablet is maybe someone that needs to make a video presentation, maybe through a projector, something like that, and you don't need high end audio for that. The Tablet makers don't care if 1 person out of a million needs it, would you? And... Actually do they really need that? or it's more to impress their girlfriend or a neighbour? F*** That!! Right?
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With high capacity storage cards it is very possible to fit a couple of uncompressed bluray movies on your phone... or even more if you compress them. You can get VERY high quality movies to fit in 5-10GB of space these days. Although I don't have a use for it, I can certainly see how people might want to hook up a phone to a big TV and watch a movie via HDMI in GREAT quality.
Dusko75 said:
I'm not trying to offend anyone here, I'm just trying to help you understand that it really is pointless....
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Certainly no offence taken here, although I think you haven't really thought about all the possibilities that all the users of tablets and phones around the world might need.
Dusko75 said:
The technology will evolve eventually and we will have better audio hardware in our tablets.... and a lot more memory to have those HD files that we really can't right now...But by then,,,, are you going to enjoy that quality in a $14.99 headphones?
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With a digital output or bypassing the little internal amplifier the quality right now is just fine. You can fit plenty on a 64GB storage card.
My headphones cost more than 30x the price you quoted.
Dusko75 said:
With all this I'm not saying be happy with the crappy sound your device could have. I actually returned a few days ago a Galaxy Player 4.0 because I didn't like it's sound quality, I'm buying (when it comes out) a Cowon Z2..... can't wait. (if I have the money by then)
Take care guys, I hope I helped a least a little...
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Not really, but thanks for taking the time to reply.
Paul
Eer, I did mention about FLAC files (yes uncompressed). mmmm.. If I'm going to to attach some other devices to extract and process the digital audio from my tab I rather use a good media player for that and wait till the audio Hardware of the (future) tabs gets to a decent level. (And yes, I know what you mean with extracting the digital signal before DAC).
I like to have different specific devices for different things. I hope that tomorrow they really get into making great sound quality hardware for this android devices (that goes to I-pod-pad too) like Cowon does, in the meantime I'm happy with other devices to get the job done. Probably that's why what you are trying to do doesn't make sense to me having so many other and better options. But as you said, that's ME.
Ironically Cowon already got into Android, but there has to be something in its hardware that makes it the best. (I don't know if its JetEffects is hardware/software or only software).
I think the big difference here is that I don't see myself doing that kind of thing with a tablet, I rather use something else. That doesn't mean I can't change my mind in the future with the (almost) everyday newer and newer technology....
Am I right and you are wrong? NO, we're both right with the way we want to do our stuff, as long as we are happy with our results.
Nice talking/discussing with you.
Someone posted this in another forum, that'll work for you if your other device supports HDMI.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005TLKR1C/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details