Can you port windows mobile and the HTC Leo rom / Interface to a UMPC like the Viliv S5 PREMIUM or any other UPMC / Tablet PC I can run Android on PC what about windows Mobile?
Why you may ask would I want a Mobile OS on my UMPC for one Battery life and Speed. I was thinking of getting the Archos android IMT but then I was Introduced to the Viliv S5 PREMIUM and will put android on it but wondered if a HTC Sense UI / Windows Mobile Port could me done
BTW Much respect to all the great XDA Devs Here, I now own a Symbian Mobile phone (Omnia I8910 HD) and wish the Community was as Good as you guys.
The quick answer is "not really". UMPC/Tablet PCs probably pretty much exclusively use x86 based processors, and WM uses ARM based CPUs.
They are not the same architecture at all - even if you could somehow recompile WM for an x86 processor, none of the stuff designed for ARM Windows Mobile would run.
Oh damn that sucks oh well I guess android will have to do, thanks for the reply
yo the cpu in a umpc is a arm cpu. i have a 7 inch umpc with a arm926 and i have been tring for months to get windows mobile 6.5 with sense in it. i am a administrator for windows so it would be very handy to get this done
Not necessarily, most UMPC's have regular i386 processors, not ARM.
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any way to get the windows os on these
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any way to get the windows os on these
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No.
I read somewhere recently though, something having to do with Windows 8 that Microsoft was working on a port for ARM processors. Likely this won't include our old ARM v6 processor, however.
Reference:
Windows 8 ARM Press Release By Microsoft | Windows 8 News
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Windows 8 ARM based tablets may launch before full desktop version ...
But the work of porting such a complex operating system, nevermind the SIZE, is way beyond anyone but the original author(s), especially since Windows is not open-source, which Android is.
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No.
I read somewhere recently though, something having to do with Windows 8 that Microsoft was working on a port for ARM processors. Likely this won't include our old ARM v6 processor, however.
Reference:
Windows 8 ARM Press Release By Microsoft | Windows 8 News
and
Windows 8 ARM based tablets may launch before full desktop version ...
But the work of porting such a complex operating system, nevermind the SIZE, is way beyond anyone but the original author(s), especially since Windows is not open-source, which Android is.
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Maybe not for the Eris but there are some mean phones that could support it. Look at the hd2 I think it was. That phone came with winmo. Android got ported to it so it would be to easy to port winmo to any suitable phone.
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Anybody considering installing Windows 8 on their Tablet S?
it won't work.
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Anybody considering installing Windows 8 on their Tablet S?
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Not me. I predict Windows 8 will experience the same level of success as did Windows 3.0, 95, Bob, ME, and Vista.
Windows 8 rt will only run on tabs that are specifically made for it.
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Windows 8 will not run, because it has not been developed for ARM processors, i doubt the tegra 2 will run it smoothly.
win 95 98 xp, should run very good though
ross231 said:
Windows 8 will not run, because it has not been developed for ARM processors, i doubt the tegra 2 will run it smoothly.
win 95 98 xp, should run very good though
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Actually it has been developed for ARM, hence why OP asked. But you're correct in that it won't run; its much like Android, each device needs a custom set of drivers and image developed for it and that only will happen for new devices with just Win8 on them. It's not like the desktop version which can be installed anywhere.
Windows 8 comes in two flavours, WinRT (which is an ARM-compatible version of Windows 8 which only includes Metro) and standard Windows 8 which is an x86-64 only image which includes legacy support. However, to run Windows 8 RT on an ARM device, it needs to be Windows certified. It then needs to run a Secure Boot (probably EFI-based) bootloader and must sign all of its boot sectors. I can be fairly confident that unless there are some pretty incredible leaps in development, we will never see Windows 8 RT on the Sony Tablet S.
Ironically, the hardware is not a problem. The Tegra 2 is an ARM processor, that conforms to all of the ARM Cortex guidelines. Our touchscreen controller is a common one and most of the other hardware (except for 3G equipment, and possibly the IR blaster) is either very common or already has device drivers that would make it theoretically possible to run Windows-style ARM images. Unfortunately, Windows 8 itself is the problem in this case.
Let's also not forget that Microsoft will only ever release Windows 8 RT pre-installed on signed-code OEM devices, making any sort of development or porting very very difficult.
hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
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hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
With all respect
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Tablet based on Tegra or Snapdragon gets Windows RT. This is Windows for ARM and will not run normal PC games.
Tabled based on X86 (for example Intel) gets Windows 8. This is windows for PC and will be able to run normal PC games (and windows applications). (if the GPU has enough power ofcourse)
Though I expect the ARM version will have much better battery life and is more suitable for a tablet.
And keep in mind that game developers are already making game engines for Windows RT. For example, there is already a demo for the Unreal3 Engine.
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hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
With all respect
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i believe you're expecting to intall windows on Prime. Sorry to dissapoint you, but this will not be possible.. Windows 8 for tablet will only be available for OEM.
ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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Only available to manufacturers. Is not like normal windows where you buy a license on a store and install on any x86 computer. Is more like Windows Phones where the OS is attached with the phone..
And since is a closed source OS, i doubt the community can install it on other devices (maybe on tablets where exists models for both versions with the same hardware this can be done, i don't know)
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ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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If you search wikipedia for Windows 8 RT you will see the hardware requirements and then see why you should not expect to see W8 on the TFP:
Hardware buttons: Must have five hardware buttons - 'Power', 'Rotation lock', 'Windows Key', 'Volume-up', 'Volume-down'. The Windows Key to be at least 10.5 mm in diameter.
Five-point digitizers: Microsoft requires that Windows 8 touch PCs use digitizers supporting a minimum of five touch points.
Mobile Broadband: If a mobile broadband device is integrated into a tablet or convertible system, then an assisted GPS radio is required
Display: Minimum native resolution/color depth is 1366x768 at a depth of 32-bits. The physical dimensions of the display panel must match the aspect ratio of the native resolution. The native resolution of the panel can be greater than 1366 (horizontally) and 768 (vertically).
Near field communication: Devices supporting NFC need to have visual marks to help users locate and use the proximity technology.
New button combination for Control-Alt-Delete: The new option is to press Windows Key + Power.
Storage: At least 10 GB free space, after the out-of-box experience completes.
Graphics: Direct3D 10 device with WDDM 1.2 driver
Camera: Minimum resolution 1280 x 720[5]
Ambient light sensor: 1-30k lux capable with dynamic range of 5-60K.
Accelerometer: three axes with data rates at or above 50 Hz
Magnetometer and gyroscope
USB 2.0: At least one controller and exposed port.
Networking: WLAN and Bluetooth 4.0 + LE (low energy)
System firmware: UEFI
Built-in speaker and microphone[6]
If anyone can resolve the hardware issues they then have to persuade MS to supply them with W8 Licences (projected to be 85$). There is no indication that W8RT will be sold as a retail product and it will be sold to tablet manufacturers - OEM's -original equipment manufacturer / manufacturing.
If I remember correctly, there was an app you could download from Google Play Store which would allow you to run a version of Windows 8 on your Transformer tablets. It required that you have W8 installed on a desktop and connected your tablet to it. If the system can run the OS if you paid for the app, it should be able to run it standalone as well. Just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions...
Long story short, possible but unlikely.
You're looking for Windows RT, the ARM version of Windows 8 (vs the Intel version that will run all the old apps we known and love and run on our intel computers). It is certainly possible (hell, probably extremely easy) to install Windows RT on our Transformer Primes. In fact I'd venture a guess to say most of Asus' Windows RT tablets are nothing but transformers, an extra button, and a few extra hardware features Windows mandates it have (ie the "Windows" button). That being said, in a TECHNICAL sense, it should be uber easy to install Windows RT.
The issue comes with licensing, legalese, and most of the crap most of us here hate because all it does is make our lives more difficult and expensive when we know damn well the hardware is capable. Microsoft has already said a few things that don't sit right with me. A few below:
1. All Windows RT devices must have locked UEFI bootloaders (ie, NO installing Android or Ubuntu, when all 3 COULD be installed in dual-triple boot configurations)
2. Windows RT will only be available to OEMs to be installed from the factory (no installing to Android devices, despite the hardware being capable.)
3. All Windows RT devices must only be able to install software from the market (with MS's 30% cut like Apple) and ONLY be for the metro environment, not the legacy desktop.
This all being said, I'm the proud owner of the HTC HD2 and if you look at that thing, which Microsoft said would never get Windows Phone despite satisfying 98% of their hardware specs, it's currently running the latest versions of Windows Phone AND Android (JB). This is all from a device that shipped with Windows MOBILE 6.5 in October of 2010. Performance is on par with single-core windows phones and single-core snapdragon chips (similar to what's in the original EVO).
It's possible, the question is, who's willing to cross Microsoft, and what kind of encryption needs to be broken first. It WILL happen, the question is a) how long and b) which devices are popular/worth it enough to MAKE it happen.
Until Microsoft fixes their current trajectory to their own 'clo$ed eco$y$tem' like Apple, I'll wait...
Hi all,
I was doing a bit of research to find any news about Ubuntu Touch on x86 platform. But i could not find much of info
So i start this thread for those who are interested to know (Includes me) about UBUNTU Touch on x86 Platform.
Below are the list of good phones with Intel Atom processors. As Ubuntu good with Intel Processors , it should be easy to post to x86 Phones.
Please post if you have any ROM here for Intel phones.
Asus Zenphone 5 & 6 are good & affordable phones to start with.
PS: This is my post. So apologise for the brevity & mistakes
In theory it should be possible to run Ubuntu on an x86 phone as there is also an x86 emulator. I don't know of any actual ROM though.
Thanks. And is there any active development happening on x86 Ubuntu phone ?
And I assume it would be easy to build one . as Ubuntu and x86 is going along for a while now
That would be my ideal phone that can act as a desktop when docked and a phone for the rest.
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I don't think that any hardware manufacturer is currently working on an x86 phone. The two phones which will be released later this year will run on the armhf architecture.
Oh, and please note that as of now it does not covert into a desktop environment yet.
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Love Ihis Idea!
Yes we need development in this area, yes there are a few x86 phones out there like the Intel AZ210 being the most advertised and some others the only complaint about x86 phones is they are the gas hog of the Mobile world but hopefully the Intel M micro processor can lead us into the age of X86 phones. and i would love for some one to port ubuntu touch to one of these devices, please please please!:laugh:
May not be today but in an year or two Intel processor will be efficient (if not battery technology will improve) . so by then software should be ready to be in implemented.
To start with , does x86 Ubuntu touch build exist?
Where can I get them?
And what and all I need to port them to Asus Zenfone lineup?
And what is the status of the scalable UI? (UI that morphs into a desktop when docked)
chaithanyaprasad said:
May not be today but in an year or two Intel processor will be efficient (if not battery technology will improve) . so by then software should be ready to be in implemented.
To start with , does x86 Ubuntu touch build exist?
Where can I get them?
And what and all I need to port them to Asus Zenfone lineup?
And what is the status of the scalable UI? (UI that morphs into a desktop when docked)
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I'm sorry to disappoint you but the UI does not converge (which is the expression they use for the scaling) yet. Currently, they are focusing on bringing the OS to a state which can be released to manufacturers (that's what they call their rtm milestone). According to Canonical and Meizu (one of the two manufacturers) we can see Ubuntu phones later this year, probably in December! During the next development cycle they will then start work on the desktop UI. The current desktop images which use Unity 8 only display the tablet UI.
What about the x86 Ubuntu touch images?
x86 is the 32 bit architecture, right? Images for an i386 emulator are already available out there. If you want to install it on your Ubuntu desktop, check out the Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
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Never mind, forgot about droidboot instead of uefi. *sigh* we need a grub friendly drodboot.
Android kernel boots with out grub. Can we do something similar
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Any news for Ubuntu Touch x86?(Intel Atom z3580) Tnx
Hi all, i have an pretty old device, specifically an HP iPAQ 216, and found someone that did an Android 2.3.7 ROM for this device.
I'm very interested about learning Android ROMs/Kernel development, and i'll modify that rom to make it smoother (obviously taking into account the hardware limits).
I'm very beginner into android development, and it would amaze me if this device can run at least Android 4.0.4.
The hardware of this device is:
4 inch Resistive touchscreen, 128MB RAM, Processor ARMv5 Intel PXA310 at 624MHz, 256MB Internal Storage, and an unknown graphics chip whose driver does not exist at all. That device runs Windows Mobile 6.0 Classic.
The graphic rendering, both in Windows Mobile and in Android, is all CPU-made because, even for Windows Mobile, the OpenGL libraries aren't supported.
I know it's really crazy the idea to make an eleven years old device run Android 4.x, but if it can run Android 2.3, why not 4.0?
MaicoLinuX said:
Hi all, i have an pretty old device, specifically an HP iPAQ 216, and found someone that did an Android 2.3.7 ROM for this device.
I'm very interested about learning Android ROMs/Kernel development, and i'll modify that rom to make it smoother (obviously taking into account the hardware limits).
I'm very beginner into android development, and it would amaze me if this device can run at least Android 4.0.4.
The hardware of this device is:
4 inch Resistive touchscreen, 128MB RAM, Processor ARMv5 Intel PXA310 at 624MHz, 256MB Internal Storage, and an unknown graphics chip whose driver does not exist at all. That device runs Windows Mobile 6.0 Classic.
The graphic rendering, both in Windows Mobile and in Android, is all CPU-made because, even for Windows Mobile, the OpenGL libraries aren't supported.
I know it's really crazy the idea to make an eleven years old device run Android 4.x, but if it can run Android 2.3, why not 4.0?
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I would respect your enthusiasm but the device isn't worth it.If you truly want the development experience at fairly cheap price you can buy the goldie Nexus 5 or it's twin Note 3.They are currently 100$ devices that have tons of development for them.Currently I am working on hlte notee 3 Ubuntu touch which is a success with 7 different roms that I compile on VPS only for learning.I have also Ran Debian 9.6 natively on This piece of worthless hardware along with compiling custom graphic libraries that somehow increase the performance.
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