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I have Google Voice integration set up via Sprint (and I'm using the default text message handler).
For some reason when I have a conversation actually open on the screen I can get a text message (sound and vibration), and the message bar at the top will preview it, but it's not showing in the actual conversation.
I've missed several MMS this way (as well as normal texts).
Craysh said:
I have Google Voice integration set up via Sprint (and I'm using the default text message handler).
For some reason when I have a conversation actually open on the screen I can get a text message (sound and vibration), and the message bar at the top will preview it, but it's not showing in the actual conversation.
I've missed several MMS this way (as well as normal texts).
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yea, if i read your post right, it sounds like the same bug i've been experiecing. def an odd bug in the htc sense messaging app they provide as stock software. i'm also using gv thru sprint integration. usually hitting the back arrow to exit the conversation and move back to the sms inbox then allows the new message to populate.
because of this bug i've now developer the habiting of exiting all conversations and going back to the inbox before turning the screen off or switching programs.
if you're experiencing a different bug, could you perhaps provide more detail?
Pretty much the exact same thing except it never comes back, even if I hit back and go back into it.
I'll give another messaging app a try.
Craysh said:
Pretty much the exact same thing except it never comes back, even if I hit back and go back into it.
I'll give another messaging app a try.
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oh how odd the message doesn't appear when you exit the conversation..
perhaps there is an issue with the sms-mms database the app is using. the only easy solution there would be to wipe the database it is using and start fresh. i don't think there are any tools for analyzing the sms-mms database used by the htc messaging app as the sms-mms databased used by the aosp messaging app is different.
if wiping the database doesnt clear the issue, then it would appear most definitely to be a htc messaging app bug.
also, the nice option with google voice is you can check the gv app on your device to see whether or not the actual message came all the way through. if it appears in gv, but not in htc stock messaging app, thats def a bad sign for the htc messaging app (assuming you have good cell signal).
perhaps one of the developers might be encouraged to take a look into the app and see if its a bug they're able to fix through decompiling and recompiling the app.
Handcent seems to have fixed the issue.
I wouldn't be able to check Google Voice since the issue seems to have been most prevalent on MMS messages.
I've had lots of issues with Google Voice integration. I would randomly stop getting text messages for 1-2 hours at a time, every 2-3 days. If I checked Google Voice the messages were there, but they never came in on my phone. I could send messages to other carriers just fine. I couldn't get their messages though. Sprint was no go both ways.
After I deactivated Google Voice, the issue went away. Sucks, I'd love to use the application.
Hi All,
Before you say it, I know what I'm doing and understand how Google contacts work, I had a HTC HD2 (thanks Pongster and XDA!) and I am used to Android.
I know how Google contacts work, infact I submitted a bug fix to AweSync to fix up their syncing of Google Contacts with Lotus Notes.
Why does the Samsung Galaxy 1 (and 2!) show me _ALL CONTACTS_ when trying to SMS people? or when I try to save a newly dialled number into contacts, it shows all contacts?
I don't want to SMS an email address! I don't want to sift through 1,300 contacts yet this idiot phone is showing me them.
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It's listing email Address's in the SMS TO: field - yet I've CLEARLY unticked "All contacts" and I've made it only show contacts with a phone number.
What is wrong with this thing?
EDIT: also, forgetting my ring tone every time I reboot isn't impressing me either.
Okay, I can't answer all your problems, and I do agree that the management of contacts on this phone is pretty poor, but there's obviously ways round certain issues.
One thing that will immediately help you is to use the contacts app to send SMS, rather than the SMS app. Select your contact (filtered as shown in your post) and you can swipe them left to SMS or right to call. That's a pretty handy feature.
However, if you're sending a message to more than 1 person you're back to square 1. I'd strongly recommend getting GO SMS Pro and GO Contacts (both free) from the Market. They're excellent replacements and I'm sure you'll be a LOT happier with them.
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johncmolyneux said:
Okay, I can't answer all your problems, and I do agree that the management of contacts on this phone is pretty poor, but there's obviously ways round certain issues.
One thing that will immediately help you is to use the contacts app to send SMS, rather than the SMS app. Select your contact (filtered as shown in your post) and you can swipe them left to SMS or right to call. That's a pretty handy feature.
However, if you're sending a message to more than 1 person you're back to square 1. I'd strongly recommend getting GO SMS Pro and GO Contacts (both free) from the Market. They're excellent replacements and I'm sure you'll be a LOT happier with them.
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Would go contacts solve my issue when saving a new phone number into my contactl ist?
wizzbang3 said:
Would go contacts solve my issue when saving a new phone number into my contactl ist?
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It does what you describe above. I don't know what you expect it to do though. You dial a number, click "Add to contacts" or "New contact" to either list all your contacts or create a new one.
is there any solution to this, i quite like the messaging app, but find it quite annoying when i have to search through hundreds of contacts, or else exit out to the contact application to text some1 who's actually in my contacts list ....
Its not a deal breaker for me, i prefer the stock than go sms or handcent, or any alternative i've tried, so if there is no fix i'll grin and bear it but if there is please help out
.... its not that i prefer the stock to any other, its just that no other provides anything that makes me want to move from stock, and since both will be running anyways it seems pointless to be wasting battery .... also i found double contacts problems with other apps aswell
Osmosae said:
is there any solution to this, i quite like the messaging app, but find it quite annoying when i have to search through hundreds of contacts, or else exit out to the contact application to text some1 who's actually in my contacts list ....
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It's just poor design by Samsung.
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It's just poor design by Samsung.
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Why? I think it is a good idea, since I very often MMS to email addresses! It is very handy to automatically downsize an image to MMS size when you are sending it to a person who you know will be looking at the email on their phone (e.g. my friend in Japan doesn't have MMS at all, over there nearly everything is email).
Been wondering about this too, i know the contact app you can customize what to show, which is fine, but the sms app show everyone you have been in contact with on google. Only "fix" i've found so far is to use another SMS app that can filter the contact list.
The solution is very simple. Just open display options in contacts and select only display contacts with numbers. Also untick everything that you don't want it to display. I don't save any numbers in phone or sim card so I save it to gmail account.
Even if I select only gmail it shows lots unnecessary contacts. So I went to gmail on my laptop and opened the contacts (phone book or something like that. Its been over a year so I don't remember)
I created a new category (u can choose an existing one) and transferred every single contact that I needed under it.
And thats it. Everytime I format my phone I just go to contact display settings on my phone and only choose the category that I made. And it only shows the contacts that I need.
It works also if u want to save a contact. I chose to save contacts to my gmail account when it asks. And everytime u save it saves it to the category that u choose.
I have been using this over a year and work flawlessly. I remember beig sick of choosing amongst 1000s of contacts.
I tried to explain as I could. If there is a problem ask me I will try to help.
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I realized this doesn't answer ur question about sms. This doesn't fix that SMS list behaviour.
I have been using "SMS popup" on my android phones for years now. Never had a problem until I installed it on this new Rezound. The SMS popup comes up when a new text comes in, it just doesnt pull up the person's profile photo as it's supposed to. It's got to be an HTC/Sense issue. I've used SMS popup on AOSP, Samsung Touchwiz, and Team Hacksung's ICS port for the Galaxy S; all of which funtioned properly.
I know I can get handcent but I really like the way this HTC messaging app looks (and its ad-free, unlike handcent). And SMS popup is such a simple way to accomplish the popup on incoming texts and still allow me to use the manufacturer's messaging app.
Has anybody else run into this problem or have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Do you have your contacts linked? Maybe it doesn't know which one to grab...
Alternatively go with Go SMS which is free and does pop up.
MrSmith317 said:
Do you have your contacts linked? Maybe it doesn't know which one to grab...
Alternatively go with Go SMS which is free and does pop up.
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Some contacts are linked, some arent. Either way, neither contact photos shows up.
The way my contacts are set up is, I have a google gmail contacts. None of those have any photos in them. Then I also let facebook sync my friends list to my contact list. Some facebook friends also have a google gmail contact equivalent. Those are the ones that are linked.
This is the same way I've always done my contacts on all my other android phones and it's never been a problem. This HTC phone is the first time I've ran across this problem. It's like the SMS popup is calling for a contact photo, but the HTC version of the contact app is calling it by a different name.
Weird, SMS popup works just fine for me pulling up the contact pic using sense etc (innefilibis ROM if that matters)
By the way, I used Handcent for years (with the ads blocked) but this is the first phone I like the stock SMS so much (with red theme bubbles) I didn't even bother installing it.
When I get a text while the screen is off, it shows up in the lock screen like it's supposed to. But if I pull the text down to the ring to unlock the screen, it will open up the text conversation at the 1st message in the convo instead of the most recent one. So I have to either:
A. Scroll all the way through the conversation down to the bottom, or...
B. back out to my list of threads and go back into the one from the person who just txt'd, at which point everything behaves like normal (showing the new text.)
Does anybody else get this?
I've had it happen a couple of times, not often though. Might be a silly question but have you rebooted the phone? I had a glitch when I first got mine with the audio and when I did a hard restart (with the fast boot option off) it fixed it. I've actually just left fast boot off because it starts up plenty fast no matter what.
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When I get a text while the screen is off, it shows up in the lock screen like it's supposed to. But if I pull the text down to the ring to unlock the screen, it will open up the text conversation at the 1st message in the convo instead of the most recent one. So I have to either:
A. Scroll all the way through the conversation down to the bottom, or...
B. back out to my list of threads and go back into the one from the person who just txt'd, at which point everything behaves like normal (showing the new text.)
Does anybody else get this?
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I get this all the time. Not really a solution but an alternative to scrolling, you can touch the screen when in conversation and on the right a slider will appear and you can just slide this to the bottom. It scrolls by days so its much faster than just flicking through.
I don't know if anyone else has this problem but when I get a picture message, the date and time of the last text on the main thread screen (where you can see my conversations) for that conversation thread is always that of the pic message and only updates to the correct date and time of the last text when the pic message is deleted.
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I get this all the time. Not really a solution but an alternative to scrolling, you can touch the screen when in conversation and on the right a slider will appear and you can just slide this to the bottom. It scrolls by days so its much faster than just flicking through.
I don't know if anyone else has this problem but when I get a picture message, the date and time of the last text on the main thread screen (where you can see my conversations) for that conversation thread is always that of the pic message and only updates to the correct date and time of the last text when the pic message is deleted.
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Yes it absolutely displays the latest text date as the last MMS received in the thread on the main view...its friggin annoying
yeah this bug has been in sense since the rezound.
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earthrocker said:
yeah this bug has been in sense since the rezound.
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i get it too, and yes it's quite annoying and also doesn't look like they are really that concerned about fixing it if it was that way on the Rezound...
my messaging app shows the wrong time in the main screen with the message previews.
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same nev. but if you click one over to sms and mms and not all messages, it shows the right time lol
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The messaging app is quirky as hell. It redraws on me SO many times; it's so frustrating. It constantly shows people's phone numbers before switching to the names. I also experience the bug mentioned in this thread quite often.
It's a shame, really. The messaging app is beautiful and I LOVE that it natively does group MMS - something I'm shocked that Google has yet to implement when it's a much coveted feature in iOS. Being a college student, I see group MMS used quite often, especially with group projects.
I would switch to another messaging app, but I'll miss the lock screen functionality. I also find the UI of most alternatives to be pretty ugly.
trebb said:
The messaging app is quirky as hell. It redraws on me SO many times; it's so frustrating. It constantly shows people's phone numbers before switching to the names. I also experience the bug mentioned in this thread quite often.
It's a shame, really. The messaging app is beautiful and I LOVE that it natively does group MMS - something I'm shocked that Google has yet to implement when it's a much coveted feature in iOS. Being a college student, I see group MMS used quite often, especially with group projects.
I would switch to another messaging app, but I'll miss the lock screen functionality. I also find the UI of most alternatives to be pretty ugly.
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same, it redraws all the time. very annoying.
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same nev. but if you click one over to sms and mms and not all messages, it shows the right time lol
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I just noticed that so what is the time it shows in the other tab
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I just noticed that so what is the time it shows in the other tab
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On the sms/mms thread it shows the time of the most recent message.
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Man, I thought it was just me. Like another poster mentioned, the app is beautiful, but glitchy. Has anyone else noticed it switchingover to 3G and not switching back? My wife has a razr and has good signal when I drop to 3G. Seems like software, so maybe new radios will fix it?
I too experience redrawing and time being incorrect when a mms is involved in a thread between someone. And switching to the middle "sms/mms" tab does fix it. Also sometimes I'll have to back out to the main messaging screen and then go back to a thread in order for it to update. Example: I'll get a text, I go to the thread and then get another text from the same person right after. I know so because it shows up in the notification bar, but it won't show up in the thread unless I exit it and come back to it so it can refresh.
here's HTC's response as to why it redraws:
"As far as the SMS application, I have noticed that. To be honest with you, the SMS application just like the People application is only an application that is designed to read a database, it doesn't actually store the information. Not only this, but as you may already know, SMS is sent through the network as number only, so when the phone gets the message its actually nothing but a number and the contents (data/text). So, when the phone receives the message it places it in the dialer storage application's databases. Then the messaging application polls that database to load all the available message threads, then the message application polls the contact storage database to cross-reference all of the contact information with the information in the message, and finally it links the storage information from the contact database to the message"
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here's HTC's response as to why it redraws:
"As far as the SMS application, I have noticed that. To be honest with you, the SMS application just like the People application is only an application that is designed to read a database, it doesn't actually store the information. Not only this, but as you may already know, SMS is sent through the network as number only, so when the phone gets the message its actually nothing but a number and the contents (data/text). So, when the phone receives the message it places it in the dialer storage application's databases. Then the messaging application polls that database to load all the available message threads, then the message application polls the contact storage database to cross-reference all of the contact information with the information in the message, and finally it links the storage information from the contact database to the message"
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very good point. and any other phone does this too. dont know why its a big deal here?
another issue I have noticed is if you are using the voice dictation with Google now to send a text to someone then that text may not show up in the messaging thread between you and that person.
Not to go too far off topic, but have any of you guys tried Handcent SMS? It's a free SMS/MMS replacement app that is so much better than any preinstalled messaging app I've used on Android.
You can have new messages show as a on-screen pop-up that can bypass the lockscreen and directly show you the message and let you reply from the pop-up. It also does group MMS (among many other options I won't go into detail about).
It's extremely more customizable than any Android stock messaging app I've seen, and it's the first thing me and all the friends I've told about it install on their new Android phones. Set aside 30 minutes to set all the options the way you want it, as there are many of them.
Stock htc one looks better in my opinion. I used to use go sms pro on my old incredible with aokp rom
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Not to go too far off topic, but have any of you guys tried Handcent SMS? It's a free SMS/MMS replacement app that is so much better than any preinstalled messaging app I've used on Android.
You can have new messages show as a on-screen pop-up that can bypass the lockscreen and directly show you the message and let you reply from the pop-up. It also does group MMS (among many other options I won't go into detail about).
It's extremely more customizable than any Android stock messaging app I've seen, and it's the first thing me and all the friends I've told about it install on their new Android phones. Set aside 30 minutes to set all the options the way you want it, as there are many of them.
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Handcent just looks like a failed attempt at knocking off the iPhone messaging app. And its just heavy. The HTC one is polished and extremely smooth, and customizable to a reasonable extent.
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I have been using an old GO SMS version up to now, being very careful not to update it since they have removed the one feature I kept it for, the inbox. I sincerely hate the threaded stuff, I have hated it since it first came in Windows Mobile, and then on the HD2 and up. Pansi was great, but didn't work anymore because updating stopped. I have no interest at all browsing a box where I see the messages I have sendt, I want it to be like a mail program, not a social media thing (I don't even have Facebook or other social media...). So is there a non-threaded/unthreaded/inbox style SMS app out there? I have spent an hour on Play to find it, but failed.
I've used about every SMS app that's out there and I don't recall this being an option. Lemme just clarify though as it seems like an odd request to me (no offense - not odd bad, just odd different). You want an SMS app that only shows their messages to you, but not yours to them? If that's so, the only half assed work around I could think of would be one that has the ability to theme all components of the message and make the out going messages blend in to the background.
So you haven't been around very long, then? That was the only way until around 2008 for smartphones, when Windows Mobile 6 came with threaded messages. Until now there's always been apps that supports it. Basically I want an SMS app that doesn't use threaded messaging, so I can go into an inbox and see the messages I have received, not the one I have sendt, yes. But blending in doesn't help, the main thing isn't the separate "conversations", it's the separate inbox where I only see the text of messages I have received, nothing else. So just like the inbox of MS Office Outlook, if that helps. Or like K9 mail for Android, if that tells you more. I just don't see why what's widely considered the efficient way to do things in mail is so different in SMS. Almost all mail programs has one inbox and one sendt box.