I am getting a little fed up with the sense UI now. For some reason it forces itself to close and takes its time to load up again. This happens everytime I try to come out of an application by pressing the home button.
The black screen appears with the HTC logo like it does when you restart the phone and it takes at least 3 to 4 mins to start the sense UI again. It stalls ever single time. Every single time?
Anyone else havet his problem? I updated the firmware from the HTC website last september, it improved the speed but not as fast as I would like it to be.
I am on the verge to ditch this device and go for HD2 on Windows. Please stop me if you think thats an absurd idea.
i share your dislike for the sense ui, but i think it might be worth waiting a few days for the 2.1 rom to be released.
No dates yet? I didnt even know there was going to be a 2.1 update. Older phones are usually forgotten and sidelined by HTC and the likes
I have experienced this and I think it's android system closing the app because of low memory... I could be wrong. I haven't looked into it but thats my guess.
alitech said:
I am getting a little fed up with the sense UI now. For some reason it forces itself to close and takes its time to load up again. This happens everytime I try to come out of an application by pressing the home button.
The black screen appears with the HTC logo like it does when you restart the phone and it takes at least 3 to 4 mins to start the sense UI again. It stalls ever single time. Every single time?
Anyone else havet his problem? I updated the firmware from the HTC website last september, it improved the speed but not as fast as I would like it to be.
I am on the verge to ditch this device and go for HD2 on Windows. Please stop me if you think thats an absurd idea.
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I think maybe you are closing the app wrong try pressing the back button instead this closes the app and you end back on the screen you launched the app from
mifran
I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
Im going off the Hero completely because of this and other issues including the lags. Despite updating the firmware, the lag still seems to be prevalent.
Looking into alternatives now. Perhaps the droid of the sony X10.
If anyone has any other suggestions to fix this issue while I wait for the x10 to come out, please do share.
Also, it would help if people would share their opinions on other android products coming into the limelight including the ones mentioned above.
I just tried your way on mine running modaco 3.1 which app is causing the problem for you any app i have running when touch home button it closes and goes back to home page no blank screen or reboot needed
mifran
alitech said:
I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
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Are you using a task killer to automatically kill tasks? If so, is Sense in the ignore list?
Regards,
Dave
alitech said:
I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
Im going off the Hero completely because of this and other issues including the lags. Despite updating the firmware, the lag still seems to be prevalent.
Looking into alternatives now. Perhaps the droid of the sony X10.
If anyone has any other suggestions to fix this issue while I wait for the x10 to come out, please do share.
Also, it would help if people would share their opinions on other android products coming into the limelight including the ones mentioned above.
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are you still using stock rom??? try using a custom one. a modaco one for example. also, why would you consider droid or wait for the x10 when the nexus is out
Have experienced the same issue using modaco roms.
In my case its when I close the MAIL, EXPLORER, or sometimes SETTINGS app from Advanced task manager.
For some reason those appas seem to be locked into the Sense UI somehow in these roms.
Cant be bothered with the effort of tracking, or fixing it, since I am waiting for the new roms, which hopefully will be better! ;-)
Thanks for your suggestions for moving on to MCR. I am a bit of a wuss when it comes to custom roms. I have never tried them as I am a bit of a noob. I can probably follow instructions, but they need to be written for a 5 year old.
I have heard great things about the MCR and really do want to give it a shot. I dont think it fixes the prevailing lag issue.
Off topic, but I was also reading up on overclocking but apparently no one has been able to achieve the full 528 Mhz on the Hero yet. Any further development I might have missed?
@foxmeister
I am using a task killer and can confirm that the sense UI is ignored. Task Killer is only ever used when I need to shut things down. Its not on autopilot.
@deeren
Nexus is out true, but its bog standard google. No sexy UI like the Sense. Not the best of reviews either. People have been harsh on google it seems. The papers, forums and blogs are rife with the worst google bashing in ages over the nexus. It looks ugly too.
Have you seen the X10 yet? Its gorgeous. The UI seems to be amazing. Same 1Ghz snapdragon, 8MP camera and what not. Beats the nexus hands down.
Full specs: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperiax10#view=specifications
The droid is cool too, although I fear it has the same lag issues as the Hero. I hate lag. My Mrs has the Iphone 3GS and I have not seen any Android phone compare to the speed of the Iphone. Pretty sad.
As for Modaco Rom. Does anyone know where there is a written guide for 5 year olds?
The phone is not rooted or anything, just has the updated Rom from last Sep.
Install Kagudroid. Problem solved.
I had this problem as well! Htc Sense would keep crashing and it kept showing up with force close, each time I would have to turn off the phone and turn it back on to fix it.
Then I saw a thread on here (sorry, couldn't find it again), but if you are using ANY type of task manager, make sure you add "HTC Checkin Service" to exempt, so NEVER end that process.
Once I did that, my phone has NEVER crashed again! Works great!!
The weird thing is, htc sense doesn't crash right away after ending that process, it only crashes later on!
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I'll start this thread noting that I've come from an iPhone 3GS and came to expect things to open and close smoothly. That being said, I do know that you need to keep an eye on open apps through a task manager and close out things that you don't need on the Android OS, but I feel like this device just can't hang with other smartphones currently.
I'm constantly nagged with keypresses lagging for over a second, half of the time when I'm trying to type quickly it will register a single button press as a long press and I end up getting the alt key instead of the plain letter.
I have a fresh load of the MoDaCo ROM and ever since I received the phone a week ago I've been severely disappointed. Attempting to answer phone calls ends up with the screen telling me to drag down to answer and is completely unresponsive, but sometimes answers the call and sometimes just turns on the speaker and mic, but doesn't connect the call.
I've removed footprints, as well as stocks from the base ROM to pull out anything I wouldn't need. My understanding is that should only have a positive impact on performance.
Menus are sluggish to say the least, often times taking 1-3 seconds just to open a sub-menu.
Did I just get a bum phone that someone tried to pawn off because there might be something wrong with it? Is this the behavior that people have been experiencing from the HTC Hero? Does anyone know a way to speed this little bugger up and make it useful?
I've installed the Overclock widget and set it to 528mhz and verified that it's still set there each time I've rebooted the phone, as well as using Android Task Manager to keep a select few applications as "do not close" so that the phone doesn't freak out and try to reload a bunch of apps.
I'm about to throw this damn phone out the window currently. I absolutely loved my G1 when I had it, and this thing feels like it's two or three steps DOWN from that phone.
Please, help me actually want to keep my phone. I LOVE the Android OS, and I love the form factor and sound quality.
i came from a hermes to the hero.. and its fooking awsomes, the lag you are getting is non existant on my hero, its a stock t-moblie as i is on contract with it atm and dont wanna risk screwing up and my insurance says F U!
if they could make a hero with a iphone screen i would be be a very VERY happy man.
sure its just not the rom u flashed? try flashing another? i used to get hassel with my hermes if it did not like the rom (wm6.5 for one it hated it but some loved it)
I might try out another ROM, but the only one that I thought I'd seen was the MoDaCo. I will have to look around the forums to see if there are any others that I can attempt to flash to my Hero. I suppose if all else fails I can just get a rooted base ROM and install WiFi tethering from there, since it's an app that I use on a VERY regular basis.
I've never updated from the original 1.5 ROM I received on my unlocked white hero. It is a bit laggy when using the Sense UI. However, when I "revert" to the Android OS Home screen (by disabling Sense UI / Touch Flo) it is VERY responsive. And that is fine for me......
I have the Hero and an iPhone 3GS and the Hero is very laggy in comparison. We have a few Android devices here in work to test/evaluate and none f them are without lag. No matter what people say I can't help thinking that they are looking through rose tinted glasses or refure point blank that the device they chose coudl possibly be less than perfect.
If you use an iPhone 3GS along side the Hero then the lag is very apparent. Scrolling through TouchFLO, scrolling the menu, typing, all have lag no matter how often I use Takiller.
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I have the Hero and an iPhone 3GS and the Hero is very laggy in comparison. We have a few Android devices here in work to test/evaluate and none f them are without lag. No matter what people say I can't help thinking that they are looking through rose tinted glasses or refure point blank that the device they chose coudl possibly be less than perfect.
If you use an iPhone 3GS along side the Hero then the lag is very apparent. Scrolling through TouchFLO, scrolling the menu, typing, all have lag no matter how often I use Takiller.
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Bear in mind android isn't there that long and the Iphone is... Iphone won't improve Android will.
I updated my hero to the last official rom and I don't think it lags at all.
But I didn't own an Iphone, so I wouldn't know how it compares to that.
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I'm about to throw this damn phone out the window currently. I absolutely loved my G1 when I had it, and this thing feels like it's two or three steps DOWN from that phone.
If that's the case, send the darn thing back. It's supposed to be faster then the G1 and I haven't heard anyone saying it's not except you. Also waiting 3?! seconds for a submenu seems impossible, they almost instantly pop up here.
Also:
but I feel like this device just can't hang with other smartphones currently.
I had a diamond and had a play with the diamond 2, both don´t even come close to the hero, same with the touch HD
Sorry to say but I think yours has some issues that are not fixable by any software updates. Send it back.
Unfortunately I purchased the phone from someone on another forum, so there is little/no chance of ever getting a replacement since I wasn't the person who originally purchased it.
I've tried reloading the MoDaCo 2.9 ROM with the Teknologist kernal after formatting my SD card and re-creating the ext2 and swap partitions.
It's running a bit faster, but it's still frustrating that this device is so slow in comparison to my wife's 3GS. I can type more than 1 letter per second on the keyboard and only occasionally get the problem with the key registering a long press.
I'm always killing unnecessary processes, but I find myself needing to reboot the phone several times a day to keep it running at a moderate clip.
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I'm always killing unnecessary processes, but I find myself needing to reboot the phone several times a day to keep it running at a moderate clip.
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Try not killing anything at all, and leaving Android to handle it. Whilst some people swear by task killers, others (myself included) don't use them and often we're the ones who don't seem to suffer from excessive lag!
BTW - comparing the Hero to the iPhone 3GS is always going to be a bit unfair, because the 3GS has a vastly superior processor. Comparisons to an iPhone 3G are far more apposite.
Regards,
Dave
don't use swap, especially on a slow sd card. android will only be dragged down by using swap, because then it does not close applications automatically as long as it does not run out of memory.
also, using a faster sd card might improve your overall experience with modaco.
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Try not killing anything at all, and leaving Android to handle it. Whilst some people swear by task killers, others (myself included) don't use them and often we're the ones who don't seem to suffer from excessive lag!
BTW - comparing the Hero to the iPhone 3GS is always going to be a bit unfair, because the 3GS has a vastly superior processor. Comparisons to an iPhone 3G are far more apposite.
Regards,
Dave
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I should clarify myself with that. I try to kill things like Market, Facebook, UniWar and Browser through the day.
I notice that if I leave any of those apps open it's going to turn into a slideshow afterward. I would say that after having the phone turned on for more than 60 minutes, if I try to play UniWar, by the end of a few turns, the game has almost stopped responding as a whole. It's frustrating as the final decision to move back to the Android platform was the fact that this game was available here, since I play it with my officemate during the day.
TooSlo said:
Unfortunately I purchased the phone from someone on another forum, so there is little/no chance of ever getting a replacement since I wasn't the person who originally purchased it.
I've tried reloading the MoDaCo 2.9 ROM with the Teknologist kernal after formatting my SD card and re-creating the ext2 and swap partitions.
It's running a bit faster, but it's still frustrating that this device is so slow in comparison to my wife's 3GS. I can type more than 1 letter per second on the keyboard and only occasionally get the problem with the key registering a long press.
I'm always killing unnecessary processes, but I find myself needing to reboot the phone several times a day to keep it running at a moderate clip.
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2.9 doesnt need a swap partition it uses compcache also upgrade to an ext3 or ext4 partition 2.9 is actually a blindingly fast rom.
Tried 2 hero's of some friends of mine yesterday, all the official latest htc rom.
And all of them respond like mine, no need for mcr 2.9 or whatever.
I've said it before, I don't think this is a rom problem, maybe defect ram memory or something.
I would definitely try disabling swapper. If you are using swapper, you are giving the Android memory management routines no chance to improve your experience because the don't know that you're out of physical memory and are swapping to flash memory that is going to be an order of magnitude or two slower than the physical RAM.
Regards,
Dave
So I've upgraded the Ext2 to an Ext3 partition and everything "felt" a little better, but I keep running into the fact that my phone just does NOT like to respond when woken up.
It's incredibly slow to be able to pull down the notification tab or move from the "main" screen in any way. I've ordered a new SD card and will reformat and only use the Data/Ext3 partition when possible, I'm just at a loss of why this type of behavior would happen.
Is this a result of using my phone to sync with my work Exchange server? I only have it set to ping the server every 15 minutes, but man, the phone becomes useless when it's attempting to sync over EDGE. I can't get ANY type of connectivity, even through games that only process 20-40k/hr data usage.
Are there "no-no" type applications to stay away from? I've removed every widget aside the WiFi toggle and Overclock Widget. I'm just tired of rebooting my phone every couple hours.
afaik there is no working overclock app/widget for hero, try removing that.
there is the option of wiping to see whether the problem continues.
seems to me like the Modaco rom is the problem. a lot of people are on the stock Hero rom and don't get any lag at all and certainly don't need to reboot the phone so often...
It's not the Modaco ROM - I've been using Modaco since the first versions, and it is fine.
HOWEVER.....
I've never bothered with Apps2SD or Swapper, and I'm pretty certain that Swapper is going to cause problems.
Regards,
Dave
I'm pretty sure the hero will never be as smooth or quick as the iPhone... you just have to decide whether you can live how smooth the hero is. On Mocado 2.8 and not using any task manager I definitely can.
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So I've received my 4gb Class 6 card, created a 1GB Ext3 partition, no swap partition and reloaded MoDaCo 2.9. I've also tried this with a stock rooted image as well. These results apply to both ROMs I've loaded.
At first it "felt" somewhat fast, but then after adding the following, it's just dreadfully slow.
Exchange email
UniWar
Handcent SMS
Advanced Task Killer
Systray Monitor
ShootMe (never running)
Better Terminal Emulator
Apps Installer
I don't really think any of those should have this type of negative impact on the phone, though I have noticed that my Exchange email does take an extremely long time to sync, but it seems isolated to this device.
My Exchange settings are:
Size Limit - 5kb
Frequency - 15 minutes
Past Mail - 3 days
Include attachments - Never
Reply w/ original text - Yes
Always BCC - no
Those seem to be the only things that are currently ever running.
Are there major conflicts that I should know about with any of those apps?
Even with a fresh install, properly partitioned SD card, current version of both the MoDaCo as well as stock rooted ROM.
Anyone?
I'm from the HTC Sensation forums, and were trying to figure this out to no avail. Can you guys please let us know if you have the same problem as us? I think it would help us pinpoint more if you let us know, because if you have the same problem... good indication its a Sense 3.0 problem.... if you dont.... maybe its a carrier problem...
Thanks for any replies...
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The agenda widget, all the time. Hate it!
coming from the evo4g i do notice that it takes a while to load now(comparatively speaking). maybe like 10-15 seconds to load now
Getting force close recently. Wtf? Maybe if I took ota's if would remedy the problem?
IDK but I'm not real happy about it. Luckily I have a very light summer schedule and don't need the calendar so much right now. I hope it gets resolved by August!
...adjusting to life without the trackball
About everything I go to the calendar/calendar widget, it has to reload.
I have the same issue and its really pissing me off. Data should be preloaded all the time, thats why it's a widget.
Yes.. and it sucks.
Yes, I noticed this pretty much since day 1.
I've since switched to an alternate launcher (still switching between Launcher Pro and GO) with it's own calendar widget. No such loading issues with these calendars, so it's probably something to do with Sense or the widget itself.
Also, didn't FriendStream have a similar issue? I wouldn't know because I pulled it into the trash pretty soon after turning my phone on for the first time, but I thought I remembered seeing something about that, too. I haven't tried the other launcher FB or Twitter widgets (or the App widgets), so I can't comment on differences in performance for those functions.
I already called HTC about this... they had never heard of this before..... but if we all call up support and tell them were having this problem... thats the only way its going to get fixed, if anything.
Switched to Pure Calendar Widget.
i hope they come up with new OTA soon. this phone is nice but all the bugs in the software are just too much. i had a rooted Evo 4G with MikG rom and it was smooth as butter. Why can't HTC fix thier software, get rid of all the Sprint bs that is preinstalled and eats up our battery. WTF. I am spending so much time trying to solve these bugs i don't even enjoy the phone.
I'm getting seriously sick of seeing this message everyone I transition back to the home screen. I want to love this thing but the software seriously sucks.
Can't wait til we get root and can finally unleash. Until then ill push back the thoughts that I should have gone samsung or ipad.
Anyone else getting lag like this?
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I've not seen this screen yet. I returned a galaxy tab for this device and find the jetstream to be more responsive overall. I had the 7.0 plus with the fast exynos processor too. I am looking forward to getting the jetstream rooted.
No lag here. I've used the jetstream, a xoom and the ipad.
I have faced this loading screen but only after a reboot.. seriously though this needs a root really badly.. it's got amazing specs but the software just chokes it down..
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I have seen the screen only once or twice. I see it more on my EVO.
Read times for the external SD card do suck though after a fresh reboot. Takes 10-20 minutes to load my mp3s again. lolol
Love my Jetstream.
<3
I had this problem before to avoid it, install ADW launcher
The loadings issue because of Sense interface
bmw-boy said:
I had this problem before to avoid it, install ADW launcher
The loadings issue because of Sense interface
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I thought about that, but thought having them both might cause more lag. Thanks for mentioning it. I did disable all the "sense" widgets last night and it seems to have helped.
I am having that problem too. When I try to transition to the home screen I get a loading message for about 13 seconds while it reloads HTC sense. I really hate that. I called customer support but they are useless, one lady even said this is normal. So I'm wondering how many other people are having this problem.
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Hopefully I won't get attacked for asking this but I have seen some lag on the device; both in videos and playing with it. Browsing the web seemed to produce the most lag. It just didn't seem as zippy as it should. I know the device as a Qualcomm Processor which isn't as powerful as the Exynos processor but I didn't think you could tell a difference. Can I get some feedback on this before I purchase the device tomorrow? Thanks
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Hopefully I won't get attacked for asking this but I have seen some lag on the device; both in videos and playing with it. Browsing the web seemed to produce the most lag. It just didn't seem as zippy as it should. I know the device as a Qualcomm Processor which isn't as powerful as the Exynos processor but I didn't think you could tell a difference. Can I get some feedback on this before I purchase the device tomorrow? Thanks
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It's impossible to tweak until you get the device. It's best to do some research on these forums before or after you buy the phone.
I personally have no lag at all, along with many other people on this forum.
Installing a different launcher and custom roms are just one of the many things you can do to improve performance.
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I am currently on one of the ICS leaks, using nova launcher, and have virtually no lag. ICS seems to have fixed video playback being a bit jumpy for me, though it wasn't a huge problem on GB. On GB I was running Solaris Prime, overclocked to 1.83 GHz, and using ADW EX, experienced no lag whatsoever there either. I use Dolphin Browser HD instead of the stock browser most of the time, and that had given me very smooth performance all around, as well as access to desktop sites instead of mobile sites.
If you get a Note that seems super laggy, exchange it for a new one in your first 30 days until you get a good one. It seems as though most Notes are fine, with only a select few experiencing poor performance, most of which can probably actually be attributed to the person's own apps and not the actual device.
Buy it and be prepared for all other phones to pale in comparison to this beast...it has ruined all other phones for me, so that I will likely only upgrade to the Note 2 when that rolls around. This thing is crazy awesome.
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Thanks for the replies. I plan on picking it up and loading the custom rom Saurom which everyone says is super stable.
I noticed *minor* lag with scrolling using Dolphin Browser in gingerbread. In ICS, it is smoother than an iphone.
Noticeable Lag
I upgraded my galaxy note to the ICS upgrade. I was a horrible experience as seems to be the norm with ATT rom upgrades. First there was no OTA support for the upgrade. I had to search for the Samsung Kies app and download it. Which took almost 2.5 hours for a 70mb file. Though the program did work okay once i got it downloaded and installed.
So now im upgraded to the long awaited ICS for the ATT Galaxy Note. It turns out its complete garbage. It has all but crippled my phone. The phone lags so bad i cant flip from screen to screen without having to stop and wait 10 to 15 seconds for it to reload each screen. Half the apps no longer work as they should. My Go messenger no longers alerts me when i get a text. When i take a picture to send it to someone. The picture never sends and it doesnt save. it just gets lost in limbo forever.
Answering calls is a futile experience as well. If the phone doesnt crash and reset. It blacks the screen out from lag so long that the voicemail picks up before i can answermy call. So them i have to wait for all this to stop go to my log see who called and try to call them back. Then the phone proceeds to crash back to the home screen 2 out of every three times i try to make a call.
This upgrade is garbage. Give me back gingerbread. Before this upgrade my galaxy note was the fastest most responsive phone i have ever seen. I rarley even had to turn it off to reset it and i think i have only taken the battery out of it once since i got it on launch day. Now the phone has been rendered completley usless.
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I upgraded my galaxy note to the ICS upgrade. I was a horrible experience as seems to be the norm with ATT rom upgrades. First there was no OTA support for the upgrade. I had to search for the Samsung Kies app and download it. Which took almost 2.5 hours for a 70mb file. Though the program did work okay once i got it downloaded and installed.
So now im upgraded to the long awaited ICS for the ATT Galaxy Note. It turns out its complete garbage. It has all but crippled my phone. The phone lags so bad i cant flip from screen to screen without having to stop and wait 10 to 15 seconds for it to reload each screen. Half the apps no longer work as they should. My Go messenger no longers alerts me when i get a text. When i take a picture to send it to someone. The picture never sends and it doesnt save. it just gets lost in limbo forever.
Answering calls is a futile experience as well. If the phone doesnt crash and reset. It blacks the screen out from lag so long that the voicemail picks up before i can answermy call. So them i have to wait for all this to stop go to my log see who called and try to call them back. Then the phone proceeds to crash back to the home screen 2 out of every three times i try to make a call.
This upgrade is garbage. Give me back gingerbread. Before this upgrade my galaxy note was the fastest most responsive phone i have ever seen. I rarley even had to turn it off to reset it and i think i have only taken the battery out of it once since i got it on launch day. Now the phone has been rendered completley usless.
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Clearly your phone experience is "not" normal as compared to most users here.
Perhaps you are unlucky and have a bad upgrade ?
Mine went well , and I only did it to test the update to gather information .
If you are not rooted ...might I suggest doing so , and trying one of the many great roms here.
Or you could restore back to GB to restore your original functionality.
Either way ...I'm sorry that your phone experience has been so miserable. And surely there is help here for you ...g
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Clearly your phone experience is "not" normal as compared to most users here.
Perhaps you are unlucky and have a bad upgrade ?
Mine went well , and I only did it to test the update to gather information .
If you are not rooted ...might I suggest doing so , and trying one of the many great roms here.
Or you could restore back to GB to restore your original functionality.
Either way ...I'm sorry that your phone experience has been so miserable. And surely there is help here for you ...g
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Thanks for the reply. I used to really enjoy my galaxy note. But the last two weeks or so have been unbearable. Im no tready to go with a custom rom since it seems to em that most of them are not fully functional in some way or another. But i did read on here that some people had very successful upgrades. So im going to figure out what i need to do to redo the upgrade and try again.
I am running the offical att flavor of ics and it sometimes wants to multitask like the iphone. I do get a lot of music skips when running power amp.
If you're nervous about stability, don't be. At the very least you could flash a debloated stock based ROM, or if you're feeling a little more adventurous try Cyanogenmod. Very stable, more so than the ICS update.
Its common knowledge that carriers and OEMs make horrible stock ROMs. Everyone has had a problem like you, and have taken the plunge of flashing a ROM.
There's nothing to be afraid of. Its not a life decision that you can't turn back on. Its easy to go back to stock if you're scared. But there's around 10 great options in the Development section if you want stability.
Bloatware and Touchwiz cripples the phone. Thank goodness for XDA devs!
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
NOTE user:
"take a deep breath, make sure to get a good look at it, relax and slowly take it in, the size is overwhelming at first but you will have a happy ending afterwards".
Woman:
Alright, so it's that time of the year again, HTC has just released a mayor update (and unless they change their minds, the last one, I may add). As I've mentioned before, ever since I got this phone, I've never really been 100% happy with it, so as soon as an official update is rolled out I jump at the chance to update my HOX+'s firmware! As it has been widely mentioned and covered in other threads, the update roll out process has been less than smooth, between a mini update which prepares the phone for the big update, but leaves the phone unable to check for further updates until 24 hours later, widespread problems communicating with the update server in the first place, and having no current RUU available, saying it was a flawed process is an understatement. However, once installed, this update covers a wide range of improvements to the GUI, the performance, and overall user experience.
I've been using the updated firmware for a few days now and so far I can say that it has been a generally positive experience. The phone feels smoother/snappier. The baked-in quick settings in the notification bar is an awesome (if long overdue) feature. The power management settings are more robust. there are more instances in which the phone allows the user to select default actions. The dailer/phone app is also way better than before (although, I still feel that they have really underutilized the screen real state for some of the functions). The updated Music app is also very nice with a lot of features not present before (mostly related to Song Info lookup). The Camera app is also way better. It takes better pictures and allows for more editing options. Audio controls have been beefed up also (loads more control over the volume settings). Another big feature is Blinkfeed. I personally don't use it, but it does work as expected and it's a nice feature to have available.
On the other hand, it can't be all good news. The distorted streaming (Media, not call audio) via Bluetooth (A2DP) bug is STILL un-addressed. I can't believe that a known issue like that, easily fixable in AOSP ROMs, hasn't been fixed in 14 months and 2 mayor updates. It makes me wonder who on earth do they hire to do their quality control and testing (Chimps!?). Also, battery life doesn't seem to have improved much (at least it isn't worse, so I guess that's a good thing).
What about you guys? What has been your experience with it?Share your experiences here!
The Sense 5 UI looks much more up to date, but many of the features I have got used to are missing from the lockscreen & launcher (scrollable dock, 1x1 widgets in the dock, resizable homescreen grid, additional notifications on the lockscreen) so I use third party replacements.
The htc calendar app is improved but it is still nowhere near as good as most of the play store alternatives.
I definitely get better battery life throughout the day. It doesn't seem much better when I'm using the phone, but is drastically improved over previous idle consumption. That may be because I don't use the Sense launcher & Lockscreen so my phone doesn't keep checking the weather outside the window.
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Like everyone has said, the update process left a lot to be desired. In my case I had to wait over a week between the small update and the full one. (I didn't want to play with changing the phones date for various reasons.) Since applying the update, MY battery life seems to be about the same. Performance feels slightly better, at least it's not worse.
I've been having an off again on again love affair with Sense since my first HTC. Sense 4 on my One X+ was ok. Sense 5 on the same phone feels sluggish, and annoying at times. Replacing Sense with Nova Launcher, and any signs of sluggishness disappear. That makes me think it's sense more than the Kernel/OS.
The new lock screen is different, and that's annoying me. I know, I shouldn't use technology if I don't like change, but it just doesn't "feel" right for some reason. I don't care for ANY of the AT&T bloatware that they installed. I spent over 20 minutes disabling what I could.
Overall, I'm happy with the upgrade. Maybe it will keep me on the stock rom for a few months, until I find a new rom that I like better. I'll give it a thumbs up. :good:
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It has really hurt my battery life. It takes unusually too long for the battery to get from 99 to 100%. When I am plugged in and fully charged and go throughmy usual morning ritual of scrolling through Twitter and email, it isn't unusual to drop down from 100 to 94 or 95 (while I'm still plugged into the original HTC charger!). I now have to charge once during the day in addition to overnight. And when my battery is low, when it reaches 14% it drops to 9% in minutes and once getting to 9% it shuts off.
I miss being able to pinch the home screen to quickly get to one of the other home screens. And I really miss the little weather animations when unlocking the phone.
But overall I find it snappier than before.
The update really changed my mind on if I should sell the phone and get a nexus. This update has made everything vastly better. My phone no longer dies at 2 everyday, instead it lasts til dinner (even with data always on!). The lock screen, phone, messaging, camera is finally aesthetically pleasing. Games like Real Racing 3 no longer lags and run hot. I use power saver and all apps are still snappy and smooth. Only thing that will suck is that we won't be able to get more updates (unless they change their minds).
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struff said:
And when my battery is low, when it reaches 14% it drops to 9% in minutes and once getting to 9% it shuts off.
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I get this too, ever since I got the phone. Nice knowing that it isn't just me
Interesting feedback... I'm going to wait until I run the newly released RUU on my phone to compare before vs after results, and see if they differ from what people post here.
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Where can i find this new RUU?
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Interesting feedback... I'm going to wait until I run the newly released RUU on my phone to compare before vs after results, and see if they differ from what people post here.
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I have been having a ton of trouble trying to get this new update to my HOX+. i tried the "check for updates" and either a box comes up that simply say software update and nothing else, or, if the htcDm is already running after the prior attempt, nothing happens at all when i tap the button.
I have looked all over for a RUU for the new update but i simply am not able to find one!
Do you know where i can find the new RUU and/or why "check for updates" does not work?
Whatever help anyone can give me on this one would be highly appreciated!
thanks guys~
I have been emailing with HTC support and I asked them why there are no more weather animations when we unlock the phone and here is their reply:
I apologize for the misunderstanding. In this case, taking into account the update done to your device, as much as I would like to give you a different answer, this feature has been removed in order to optimize the battery life of your device. I do apologize as I know this was not the answer you were looking for.
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So that little 3-4 seconds of leaves blowing or snow or rain was causing battery issues??? As if stupid Blinkfeed uses less juice???
Isaact94 said:
I have been having a ton of trouble trying to get this new update to my HOX+. i tried the "check for updates" and either a box comes up that simply say software update and nothing else, or, if the htcDm is already running after the prior attempt, nothing happens at all when i tap the button.
I have looked all over for a RUU for the new update but i simply am not able to find one!
Do you know where i can find the new RUU and/or why "check for updates" does not work?
Whatever help anyone can give me on this one would be highly appreciated!
thanks guys~
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Hmmm, HTC seems to have removed the RUU from their website after publishing it! (Weird...)
I contacted HTC and was told that they originally posted it (hence how you were able to get it) but took it down because it was having problems of some sort. They informed me that they would be posting it back up once it wthe RUU was corrected and set for download.
So now it is the waiting game again...
And I have not gotten an OTA push yet and was told by HTC to wait a couple of weeks and call back if I didn't get. So I myself have got to just wait I guess
Wallpaper not scrolling on home screens
Hmmm, my wallpaper doesn't seem to scroll anymore. I am currently using Apex launcher and wallpaper doesn't scroll even though I have set Apex to allow it. Prior to the update it would scroll. I installed another launcher to see if it would scroll and still no dice. Any ideas?
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I contacted HTC and was told that they originally posted it (hence how you were able to get it) but took it down because it was having problems of some sort. They informed me that they would be posting it back up once it wthe RUU was corrected and set for download.
So now it is the waiting game again...
And I have not gotten an OTA push yet and was told by HTC to wait a couple of weeks and call back if I didn't get. So I myself have got to just wait I guess
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Thanks for the info man! I was going to run this weekend the RUU I managed to download, but if that's the case, I'll wait it out...
hopefully this is a FIX for you!
Thanks to el_kangri_gt-r_co_34 for the info!
If your phone wont manually check for updates try downloading the RUU for 1.19 and installing that.
once that is on the device the manual check should find the new 4.2.2 update (or at least mine did)
it will come in as a 13.8MB and then later a second 532.1MB package (you might have to check for update again after the first downloads)
be sure to give el_kangri_gt-r_co_34 thanks over here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467571&page=33) if this helped!
synnyster said:
Hmmm, my wallpaper doesn't seem to scroll anymore. I am currently using Apex launcher and wallpaper doesn't scroll even though I have set Apex to allow it. Prior to the update it would scroll. I installed another launcher to see if it would scroll and still no dice. Any ideas?
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I've had the same experience. It looks like your best bet will be using Nova Launcher and toggling on its Force Scroll function in Display Look and Feel within Nova's settings. It's usually for devices that can't scroll, but we're one of those now.
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