In search of suggestions/advice - Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development

I have been trying to read through the forums to find an answer, but am having some serious difficulties - partly because I guess I am very different in some ways than many others.
A few months ago I upgraded my ROM to one of the many 6.5 ROMs available out there. Immediately half the programs and utilities I need and use for school and work ceased working. I have been patiently waiting for updates/upgrades, but no one seems to be worried about updating their software and drivers for the applications I use. So I need to go back to a 6.1 ROM.
My options, as I see them, are:
1) Stock ROM (I have an AT&T Fuze). This worked for me, but had some idiosyncrasies I was hoping to do without. Most of those were corrected with my upgrade to a custom ROM.
2) Install a 6.1 custom ROM. This would be my main choice, but most of the 6.1 ROMs are no longer available, and those I have seen shared out/reposted for those who, like me, need to go back to 6.1 are usually containing a lot of applications and such I do not need/want anyway. I have downloaded one or two of these, and may try them, but I am hoping for something closer to a "Vanilla" release. I have tried TouchFlo, TF3D, SPB Mobile Shell, and other "finger run" menu enhancements, and decided I do not like them. I prefer the old style look and feel, my old menus and themes on the Today screen, etc. I know I am odd, but it works better for me.
I DO use my phone to watch movies (either stream via Orb from home, or watch converted files from the storage card) and so need the A2DP or whatever tweaks, but I think I've seen threads on how to manually do these, or containing tweak cabs to do it.
So, there is my question: Do I just go back to the stock bloated ROM, or is there a very solid, rather slimmed down 6.1 ROM out there that is optimized for the Fuze and that would be better for what I need/want?

how about the stock WWE HTC ROM for the Touch Pro? nice and clean, optimized, with no AT&T junk.

I think that the best for you would be Bloat Free Official HTC Fuze ROM Update - Version 5.11.502.2 WWE, or this:
chambo622 said:
how about the stock WWE HTC ROM for the Touch Pro? nice and clean, optimized, with no AT&T junk.
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How about my WinMo 6.1 ROM?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620978
Don't know how good it is on the Fuze, but try! and report Bugs and any improvements!

Jumranb,
Get Carcing's 6.1 clean rom. Read message 4 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559323
My situation is just like yours. I also wanted bloat free 6.1 rom

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Question: Official HTC vs. Cooked Roms

Hi, I wanted to know that after flashing Hard-SPL on my Hermes, can I simply download the official HTC Mobile 6.0 rom and flash it on my Hermes, or do I need to use some specific utility to flash that HTC Official Mobile 6.0 rom?
right now I care about good performance but I want all the features too and more official ones ( i'd prefer microsofts browser over opera, windows media player over some other audio player ), would I be happier with some cooked rom like VP3G's Windows Mobile 6 v2.0 ( i find this quite popular ) or would the HTC Official do fine? Sorry for asking rom preference if it is not approved over here, then my main question would be
whether you need some utility to install the official HTC Mobile 6 rom or you simply run the 54.3 MB HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108.exe and follow the onscreen instructions?
I think that to install the official rom you don't need to HARD-SPL flash it.
Only if you have a cooked ROM or a ROM that's not an original to your phone you need HARD-SPL (example If you want to install the original HTC-ROM on a Orange phone or something like that).
I prefer the Schap's ROM, this one is stable and works quite nice.
I've removed the original HTC ROM within a day because it was slow, crashed too much and it uses a crappy PDF reader (I prefer Adobe this one is faster than the one HTC uses).
Once you have HardSPL, you can flash all you want.
Seriously, I would load up one, run it for a day or two and then try another one. Yeah, it takes some rebuilding each time (to re-sync data and relaod other apps), but it gets to be pretty quick and it will be worth it to get the ROM you like the best.
I agree that the Original ROMs seem to be more bloated and slower and often (ironically) less stable.
I have tried MANY and have settled on the Black ROMs (currently X RC). Slueth's was also GREAT, and I understand that VP3G and Schaps are also awesome, but I have not tried their most recent ones. You really cannot go wrong once you get going.
hmmmmm, I have flashed a Nokia E70 before ofcourse the experience is totally different but I know the basic precautionary measures, however, I was wondering how much of a risk would it be to be flashing new roms every other day, by the way I forgot to mention that I have/going to get in a few days Cingular 8525, thats why HTC rom isn't original for me...
I like these custom rom's but I have one question, I love the dark green look I saw somewhere on an ebay page, are the custom rom's hardcoded to a specific theme or you can change themes ( i don;t even know if windows mobile has themes in the first place ), if I am over my themeing problems, then I guess i gotta choose the rom thats all...
I am in USA right now but going to Pakistan in two weeks, I see this radio upgrade 1.43.00.00, is it worth upgrading to it? My uses are GPRS, GSM, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and maybe Infrared too...
If someone has tried quite a lot of rom's maybe he/she can suggest me a good rom to switch to?
As much as a clean simple hermes user i wanted to be, I am getting more and more pulled towards modding my hermes and trying all sorts of stuff
todd_jg said:
I have tried MANY and have settled on the Black ROMs (currently X RC). Slueth's was also GREAT, and I understand that VP3G and Schaps are also awesome, but I have not tried their most recent ones. You really cannot go wrong once you get going.
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Is this Black Rom that you are talking about listed on this page? http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=6&id=13&Itemid=26
TyTN best rom upgrade?
I own a TyTN with rom version:1.18.255.3, date:07/22/06, radio: 1.03.03.10, ExtRom: 1.18.255.106
Although every post is very helpful, I still feel confused about the "right" upgrade for my device.
I tried to download the latest version from HTC official web site, but I still wait for a registration confirmation from them (one week ago ) and I can't download anything.
I have to admit that my TyTN works perfectly at the moment.
But I still want the latest version
Can someone help me?
Go to THIS LINK and then flash like a madman! It is fun and pretty safe (as long as you do the HardSPL upgrade). We were all nervous once, but now I am sure that I have flashed my phone at least 100 times.
Thanks a lot I'll try it and come back for sharing.
Which version do you prefer? How about the WM6 Black Majik?
Sorry for asking again, but I couldn't be able to do that for ... 100 times
Schaps 3.54c (4MB or even better 6MB pagepool) if you want to have Greek customisation after the install.
TyTNic said:
Thanks a lot I'll try it and come back for sharing.
Which version do you prefer? How about the WM6 Black Majik?
Sorry for asking again, but I couldn't be able to do that for ... 100 times
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Majik is a bit old now. I prefer the latest Black X RC release. Haven't checked in a few days, that could be old too Black Satin is newer than Majik also.
lagoskon is right about Schaps - his ROMs are good, Sleuth has some good ones, VP3G is well respected... really, I am not sure you can go wrong. I would just pick one and give it a try and if you don't like it, try another one. Only the first couple are difficult/scary. Do put Olipro's HardSPL on there first though - will keep you safe.

so i just bought a mogul, need advice!

my mogul will be here this week and i want to unlock it and flash the latest gps rom and radio. the ppc will be for sprint. id also like to install a light weight but fast 6.5 rom as well. can you guys point me in the right direction? will the bell 3.42.50 radio work on this phone?
thanks in advance!
anybody???
There's a wiki somewhere but you can use this from over at ppcgeeks.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33857
This tells you how to do everything.
okay but can you guys recommend a lightweight 6.5 rom?
I alternate between RyanMogul's heavy 6.5 ROM (he makes a light too - I just haven't tried it) and bbsandkm's light 6.5 ROM (over at ppcgeeks). Both are great!
I vote for bbsandkm's light 6.5 ROM
I vote for ryanmoguls It seems to be there one I always go back to.
You bought a Mogul? Please tell me for less than $25...
If you want lightweight stick with a stripped down 6.1 ROM. Unless you really want Titanium or the Honeycomb (both of which I absolutely hate) then I've seen no benefit to running 6.5. Then again I haven't tested Ryan's 6.5 so maybe that one actually doesn't suck like all the others I've tested. They just eat tons of RAM with no difference other than Titanium and Honeycomb.
I second 6.1... Get DCD's 4.1.2 and you will have at least twice as much free ram as when you use 6.5... I tested 6.5 for about two weeks, went back to dcd's rom and I will never flash back to 6.5. It's just the fastest, lightest rom I've experienced, and it has some nice features as well. His older roms are good too but you miss out on some things like the touchflo in menus and in PIE. Well if you like soft resetting every couple hours then go for 6.5, knock yourself out. But if you're looking for overall best, most convenient, fastest, smoothest rom, I'd strongly recommend DCD's 4.1.2. With the right CAB's you will be able to suit it up how you like, but once you go 6.5 there's very little programs you can install and still have reasonable ram to work with.
Showtime7 said:
I second 6.1... Get DCD's 4.1.2 and you will have at least twice as much free ram as when you use 6.5... I tested 6.5 for about two weeks, went back to dcd's rom and I will never flash back to 6.5. It's just the fastest, lightest rom I've experienced, and it has some nice features as well. His older roms are good too but you miss out on some things like the touchflo in menus and in PIE. Well if you like soft resetting every couple hours then go for 6.5, knock yourself out. But if you're looking for overall best, most convenient, fastest, smoothest rom, I'd strongly recommend DCD's 4.1.2. With the right CAB's you will be able to suit it up how you like, but once you go 6.5 there's very little programs you can install and still have reasonable ram to work with.
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I don't think you used a good 6.5 if that's the case. After everything is installed on my ROM, I boot with over 25 meg free. At the end of the day, I'm still well above 21.
I'm not saying 6.1 is bad - in fact, I spent a day on DCD 4.1.2 and remembered what good work he did. It's a fantastic ROM, but I have not ever seen that poor memory on 6.5.
unL33T said:
If you want lightweight stick with a stripped down 6.1 ROM. Unless you really want Titanium or the Honeycomb (both of which I absolutely hate) then I've seen no benefit to running 6.5. Then again I haven't tested Ryan's 6.5 so maybe that one actually doesn't suck like all the others I've tested. They just eat tons of RAM with no difference other than Titanium and Honeycomb.
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Well, 6.5 is slightly more finger-friendly than 6.1, like, finger scrolling works in most apps on a bare 6.5
I tried a least 4 different roms... new released ones, this was like 2 weeks ago. Please point me to a stable, fast 6.5 rom with that much available memory and I will take what I said back, but I tried numerous roms with no luck. None anything even close to DCD's.
Showtime7 said:
I tried a least 4 different roms... new released ones, this was like 2 weeks ago. Please point me to a stable, fast 6.5 rom with that much available memory and I will take what I said back, but I tried numerous roms with no luck. None anything even close to DCD's.
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I'm not saying I'm as good as DCD; he has waaaay more technical knowledge than I could ever lay claim to. But here you go. My ROM boots on the initial flash in the high 20's of free RAM. Make sure you set this to High Memory Mode under Start -> Settings -> System -> Kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532030
Thanks, I'll try it out tonight and report back.
I just finished a WM 6.1 Build 21042 kitchen. Its pretty straight forward.
So far so good, looks like I was wrong. But I don't know how annoying it will be to have to reset every time I have to use my camera. I'll see how well the memory holds after I get my apps, though with 6.5 as I remember apps are hardly needed, at least not for finger friendliness.
Kwokinator said:
Well, 6.5 is slightly more finger-friendly than 6.1, like, finger scrolling works in most apps on a bare 6.5
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The newer versions of 6.1 have this as well.
Also, I actually prefer to NOT have that functionality in a ROM because then I can install FTouchFlo and have finger friendly gestures working in almost EVERY program whether it came with the ROM or not. If it's built into the OS it becomes harder to figure out how to make the built in gesture functionality not conflict with FTouchFlo.
It is nice sometimes though to just flash a ROM and have finger gestures right out of the box.
OK so after running this ROM for a while I can see its mostly like the rest of the 6.5 roms I've tried. It started with the most available ram I've seen in a 6.5 rom but that is mainly due to the disabled camera. I start off at about 26mb free after flash, 23mb free on boot after installing all my apps and whatnot. Few hours later, I'm at 10-15mb free. I must be missing something here. No I don't use apps running in the background, yes I use hibernate every now and then. Still no use, I'm under 15mb free now without a camera. With DCD's rom I was just using I never went under 15, with my camera enabled. So I am thinking about flashing back, but I'm not completely sure. Maybe I'm missing something.
Showtime7 said:
OK so after running this ROM for a while I can see its mostly like the rest of the 6.5 roms I've tried. It started with the most available ram I've seen in a 6.5 rom but that is mainly due to the disabled camera. I start off at about 26mb free after flash, 23mb free on boot after installing all my apps and whatnot. Few hours later, I'm at 10-15mb free. I must be missing something here. No I don't use apps running in the background, yes I use hibernate every now and then. Still no use, I'm under 15mb free now without a camera. With DCD's rom I was just using I never went under 15, with my camera enabled. So I am thinking about flashing back, but I'm not completely sure. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Exactly what I experienced in the 6.5 ROMs I tried.

Which custom ROM for me?

Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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Maybe a Motorola Razr?
This post is kinda eh... well, the Raphael has so many capabilities, Opera, GoogleMaps/GPS are two of it's major attributes?!? I've not found a need for YouTube either but still...
If you're needing a simple no frills ROM, Da_G has one in the forum. Here, let me Google that for you:
Da_G Clean ROM
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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I recommend cooking one yourself, with only the apps you want, and none of the ones you don't. hilaireg & Da_G (along with the creators if the kitchen, ervius & bepe) have made it quite easy to do so.
[KITCHEN][WWE][13.06.09]Windows Mobile 6.1 21051 Kitchen for Fuze/TouchPro [GSM]
or, if you prefer 6.5, the ever-build-changing kitchen for that is
[KITCHEN][MULTILANG][18.07.09]Windows Mobile 6.5 23007/21928 Kitchen for Raphael GSM
Trust me, it's not as difficult as it seems (unless you want to get REALLY into it - which is when the fun begins).
lavalamp said:
Maybe a Motorola Razr?
This post is kinda eh... well, the Raphael has so many capabilities, Opera, GoogleMaps/GPS are two of it's major attributes?!? I've not found a need for YouTube either but still...
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The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
treo927 said:
The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
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Reading Captain Throwback's post has got me considering cooking my own ROM.
The Raphael is a damn fine phone. I've never had an issue with memory or running out of storage but I don't keep too many 'media' type files on the device. In any regard, between Da_G's Plain ROM or cooking your own as the Captain has suggested, you will be heading in the right direction. I had my phone with the stock ROM long enough for the battery to charge then it was flashed. You'll be impressed no matter the direction you choose.
Have fun!
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too.
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Unstable? Latest HTC ROM (from february) is the most stable of all. You'll see what's the meaning of the term "unstable" when you try some of the cooked ROMs, especially 6.5. I've tried at least 5 different cooked ROMs, and after max few days I return to HTC official ROM, because of stability and usability.
treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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Well mine of course!!! Duh...like you even need to ask
(Sarcasm for those that can not detect it online)
treo927 said:
The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
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From the sounds of it you have a large storage card right? Why then waste space for pictures/music etc on the storage card by then going and installing apps on it? The only thing that is used in my devices built in memory is programs, as it should be. Use the 300 MB on board memory to fill up with all the pointless apps you want and store all data on a memory card. Programs will run faster from on board memory, plus a lot of chefs "modularise" prgrams that are installed on the device and therefore they use the virtual memory a lot more efficiently.
I would liken the way I compartmentalise my phone as being an install on a computer:
"C:" Drive for main OS and programs
"D:" Drive for documents etc
This means that you change out the OS without losing all your data. If you then use things like UC when you install a ROM cooked by a chef on here, you can flash your device 10 times a day and each time within 10-15 minutes of flashing the ROM you will be fully up and running like you hadnt even changed the os!!
For example, I am a chef (a beginner in the grand scheme of things) but when I am cooking a new ROM I can flash my device as fast as I can cook a new ROM (Bughunting is a nightmare!) but EVERY time I flash, I have my activesync running, my personal IMAP email running, my WIFI access points for home and work set up, my GPRS settings set up and extra cabs installed and my Owner information imported, and all of that happens as I install the ROM. Only thing I have to manually do is sync the clock (only cos I cant be bothered to get that working automatically!)
As for youtube, most, if not all the ROMs cooked up here have the latest HTC youtube app installed (I wouldnt bother with the official youtube app as it has less functionality)
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At0mAng said:
Well mine of course!!! Duh...like you even need to ask
(Sarcasm for those that can not detect it online)
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This is the guy who first got me into cooking properly with his old 6.1 kitchen Cheers At0mAng!
Closing thread guys... Rom preference is all personal preference.. Please flash roms and see what fits you best
Peace,
Joshua

Wich ROM for a TouchPro? Stock or custom?

Hi!
I still have the stock-ROM on my TouchPro. There is a ROM-Update on the
HTC-website from the 2009-08-30. Is it already WM6.5 or just a different
update? If, what is the favorised custom ROM?
actual ROM:
ROM-Version: 1.90.407.4 GER
ROM-Date: 08/23/08
modem: 1.02.25.19
protocoll: 52.33.25.17U
Any help, please? :}
To be honest, I've tried in the last year almost all ROM's posted in this Raphael Forum.
My advise, if you need and use the PDA for normal business use stick with the Stock ROM, or upgrade to the latest 'official' posted in XDA-Wiki. If you don't mind your phone crashing or failing then try and 'play' with the ROM's available.
You and Chefs don't get me wrong, but the 6.5 and especially the Sense versions are far to unstable, though it shows what could be possible on these PDA's.
That doesn't sound really promising... hm.
The custom ROMs for the HTC TyTN did work good. Pity.
I'm curious for the 6.5-GUI, though.
At the moment I'm using the Iphone more often since I got
"tethering" working without the need of paying for it and
specially because the TouchPro-headset broke... Not
really a cheap replacement for it. The China-plagiats
suck... sound like crap.
personally the custom roms have worked great for me and are in general faster than the stock rom. unless u go sense or manila 2.5 whatever u want to call it, they are pretty stable too.
read the instructions on how to load the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
only thing i dont like about the guide, is the hard reset at stylus settings, because that prevents the rom from loading its software if it needs any. i just let it load whatever it wants.
and then try out TAEL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
or
Energy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
both of these are my personal favorites and run like a charm. with a stock rom, the touch pro is a waste of hardware.
k.electron said:
personally the custom roms have worked great for me and are in general faster than the stock rom. unless u go sense or manila 2.5 whatever u want to call it, they are pretty stable too.
read the instructions on how to load the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
only thing i dont like about the guide, is the hard reset at stylus settings, because that prevents the rom from loading its software if it needs any. i just let it load whatever it wants.
and then try out TAEL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
or
Energy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
both of these are my personal favorites and run like a charm. with a stock rom, the touch pro is a waste of hardware.
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I agree. The best thing you can do is to try a 6.5 21864 build. Those are stable and energyRoms are fast.
I use my phone for business. I have been using energy ROM's right from the time i got my touch pro.
i started with the roms from monx, after he stopped for a while, i used energyrom for a long time, and tried some other, but always came back to energy.
Well monx posted a couple of weeks ago a new 6.5 rom and i am using that rom, i always liked his roms.
and there is no official htc WM6.5 rom for the touch pro
just try some for yourself is my advice
I started off with RRE's ROMs but moved to Energy ROM's and have been very happy with both. If you stick to the more stable ones vs the beta ROMs then you'll be fine. I'm still running an Energy ROM from August but am finally gonna upgrade to the latest one.
6.5 21864 build. Those are stable and energyRoms are fast.
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I second this and use my phone for business and as GPS device when I'm on the road.
Delphi said:
Hi!
I still have the stock-ROM on my TouchPro. There is a ROM-Update on the
HTC-website from the 2009-08-30. Is it already WM6.5 or just a different
update? If, what is the favorised custom ROM?
actual ROM:
ROM-Version: 1.90.407.4 GER
ROM-Date: 08/23/08
modem: 1.02.25.19
protocoll: 52.33.25.17U
Any help, please? :}
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You should try the Stock ROM update on HTC ( and for the question NO OFFICIAL HTC TOUCH PRO updates have 6.5 they are all 6.1 )
You can flash the TAEL or the ENERGY or the CHROME or the EXQUISITE ROMs they are all very popular and mostly good.
You should just try one of them it just takes 15 to flash a ROM.
Read and follow the steps very carefully.
And remember you can always flash back to HTC STOCKs.
Usually the one on HTC site are more latest than the ones on WIKI.
Enjoy !
But you should have posted this in Raphael Questions and Answers thread not a new thread.
Next time be careful.
I went around flashing roms myself, always landed back on the latest stock rom because it works. I'll list the advantages and disadvantages I stumbled upon from my experiences.
Stock Rom
Advantages
- You know it will work right (for the most part).
- Peace of mind with the ROM
- Still customizable (I was able to install Manila 2.1 and it works very smoothly, the only problem I had was with Tachi dialer, which didn't work 100% on any rom I tried it on either (some bugs, like when I dialed a number it never showed the correct number on the screen, but it did dial the right contact number)).
Disadvantages
- You miss out on a lot of new things like, Manila 2.5, Ezinput 2, etc.
- Lack of support for 6.1 on XDA these days. I'm still having trouble finding 6.1 themes and Manila themes on here. Seems that has died down with the flood of Manila 2.1.
- It's still 6.1.
Cooked Roms
Advantages
- You get all the newest things; WinMo 6.5 + it's uh... more touch friendliness, Manila 2.5, etc.
- Tons of support on XDA these days.
Disadvantages
- Many bugs. Yes it they do work for the most part, but look at any cooked rom thread, and see how many people are posting problems, and look at how many updates are down to fix problems. Which brings me to my next point....
- You get into a flashing frenzy. You end up flashing more than using the roms you flash because of updates, and different rom offers.
- You're never sure what the experience is going to be on your phone till you try, so no real piece of mind. Some roms take a few days to really show that it might not be compatible with you, then you'll end up spending a ton of time finding another rom to try out.
- Never satisfied (ties in with flashing frenzy).
That's how it was for me. I toyed around with the stock Fuze rom, got it working to a point where I like it very much. I got Manila all nice using custimizer and some other mods. But really, I'm always tempted to flash to try out things like 2.5, because I want that Twitter Tab, or I want GPS weather of 2.1 (oh how I wish Tachi dialer just worked perfectly). But in the end I always go back to using the stock rom, because it just works well.
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I went around flashing roms myself, always landed back on the latest stock rom because it works. I'll list the advantages and disadvantages I stumbled upon from my experiences.
Stock Rom
Advantages
- You know it will work right (for the most part).
- Peace of mind with the ROM
- Still customizable (I was able to install Manila 2.1 and it works very smoothly, the only problem I had was with Tachi dialer, which didn't work 100% on any rom I tried it on either (some bugs, like when I dialed a number it never showed the correct number on the screen, but it did dial the right contact number)).
Disadvantages
- You miss out on a lot of new things like, Manila 2.5, Ezinput 2, etc.
- Lack of support for 6.1 on XDA these days. I'm still having trouble finding 6.1 themes and Manila themes on here. Seems that has died down with the flood of Manila 2.1.
- It's still 6.1.
Cooked Roms
Advantages
- You get all the newest things; WinMo 6.5 + it's uh... more touch friendliness, Manila 2.5, etc.
- Tons of support on XDA these days.
Disadvantages
- Many bugs. Yes it they do work for the most part, but look at any cooked rom thread, and see how many people are posting problems, and look at how many updates are down to fix problems. Which brings me to my next point....
- You get into a flashing frenzy. You end up flashing more than using the roms you flash because of updates, and different rom offers.
- You're never sure what the experience is going to be on your phone till you try, so no real piece of mind. Some roms take a few days to really show that it might not be compatible with you, then you'll end up spending a ton of time finding another rom to try out.
- Never satisfied (ties in with flashing frenzy).
That's how it was for me. I toyed around with the stock Fuze rom, got it working to a point where I like it very much. I got Manila all nice using custimizer and some other mods. But really, I'm always tempted to flash to try out things like 2.5, because I want that Twitter Tab, or I want GPS weather of 2.1 (oh how I wish Tachi dialer just worked perfectly). But in the end I always go back to using the stock rom, because it just works well.
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Just a correction
The manila 2.1 or 2.5 DO NOT use GPS to find out weather on the current loaction they use location service which tracks down the area were the tower is located from where your phone is getting signals.
And PLEASE DO NOT say that all Custom ROMs have many bugs You have to chose the right build the right developer and the right ammount of things you do with it.
I can point out so many bugs present in stock ROM and the lack of things you can do.
And we all know that installing CABs for MODs and TWEAKS is nothing close to the performance they give when baked into the ROM.
They eat so much more CPU and Memory when installed separately !
Anyways OP its your choice but you should give it a try atleast
I require my phone for work and have found many of the cooked ROMs far MORE stable than the stock ones. The t-mobile (uk) stock ROM was awful. And I mean truly awful !!!
I use NRG ROMS. Ive not risked the Manilla 2.5 versions as yet (which NRG himself describes as beta !) but his other WM 6.5 are excellent.
I also use SPB mobile shell 3.5 which i think is great. sits over WM 6.5 very nicely and is fully customisable - especially with MSkips extras.
Just to reiterate what some of the other posters have said - the cooks here do a great deal of hard work - if you pick a ROM thats close to the cutting edge you may get bugs (and the chefs will warn you that) - but if you pick some of the more tried and tested branches the cooks have created some ROMs that are extremely stable !
I see.
Is there any (easy) way to make those ROMs german?
Comments on stock ROM and add languages:
Have to agree that most stock ROMs are sluggish and terrible. Even back at the Kaiser days none of the ATT ROMs was able to satisfy me.
Before you select a custom ROM R E A D what people say and what issues they have! Most issues are very specific and may not affect you at all.
Furthermore, for now, I would stay away from 6.5.1 and 6.5.3 ROMs (with the Windows buttons at the bottom). They are kinda beta and the VGA port of Manila 2.5 isn't perfect or good enough for daily use in my opinion. There are stable 6.5 ROMS with Manila 2.1 which can be used and IMHO all of them are faster and more stable as the stock or branded ROMS (I mean HTC or for example ATT modified ROMS).
As far as other languages go, Monx cooked some custom ROMS in the past in Dutch and German though his current ROMS are Manila 2.5 and new WinMo based (see my note above) and nothing for a ROM novice.
Without judgement NRG's 6.5 and Aruppenthals are a good start into custom ROMs, just look for WinMo 6.5 and Manila 2.1 versions.
Did one actually every try to set regional to i.e. German and see what happens? Look around for language packs as well.
List of ROMS I would suggest:
NRG "Photon" but only the 21864 built
Aruppenthals (though based on the newer WinMo version)
Note:
These are my PERSONAL suggestions and do not do any positive or negative justice to ANY other chef out there but in my PERSONAL opinion these are the easiest to handle for a new "flasher".

[Q] I can't decide which Rom to try for my HD2

What is the best Rom for HD2?
Newbie here - to this site anyway - having just bought a HD2. I've had a look through the various Rom sites and the spreadsheet, but I can't decide which Rom to try for my HD2. I need to be up and running pretty quickly but I don't mind a bit of tweaking in my spare time.
I've had WM6.1 for a while on my old PDA and have tweaked it a bit.
As far as I can see I want the most up to date but reliable. Other criteria are fast, relatively lean, appointments/calendar, Outlook (MS Exchange), Internet, Office 2010. I use GPS a lot (have a couple that I've bought for 6.1). No social media - don't use it much.
I like the screen to show time and appointments most importantly and to have easy access to email - I get about 80 per day.
Please be as constructive as possible. Maybe some pros & cons would be helpful.
Many thanks
should've searched...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640732
Try the Energy Rom, Miri's Rom, Artemis, Dutty's - there are sooo many it's crazy hard to count...
I've been constantly switching between Energy and Dutty, Energy because it's easier to use and setup, looks nicer from the start, and is blazing fast, but Dutty's I find snappier and much better battery life. It's all personal experience... Just wait til you turn into a flash-a-holic like most of us here.
i tried them all and keep trying them all i am a flash addict , on a serious note just try them all until you find one you like
I'd go with this one:
http://hotfile.com/dl/92454692/a2b18ee/Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.sencity.Dec.27.7z.html
taken from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
It's a very stable 6.5 ROM with the awesome black and white sencity theme. It is fast and optimized and has everything you want. And it's Cookie 2.0 which means you can modify every aspect of the home screen, including email alerts, calendar, etc...
make sure you have the right radio per this:
If you're a beginner, read on as there's a few things you need to do first.
You need to install a modified "SPL" on your device that allows installation of custom ROMs such as this one. It's called a "Hard SPL" and it's in of these stickies at the top of this forum (not this thread!).
You need to install a compatible "radio" firmware that works with this ROM. The radios that work with this ROM all have ".50" in their name.
If you have a TMobile USA branded device, then you don't need to flash a "radio". The ROM will work just fine with it. However, if you own an asian or european HD2 then you NEED to flash a .50 radio.
I RECOMMEND FLASHING RADIO 2.07.50 or 2.12.50 ! 2.07 can be downloaded here: > CLICK <.
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I tried Energy Room twice on My HD2 and it's look good, I didn't had any problem​
Try latest rom from Dutty.
Duttys_2.5_5.21916.5.0.95_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V12)_WWE
Here is a links : http://fileserve.com/list/RmZpnKD
It's simple and fast.
Is it better than v13? I see that it is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610634
Whatdoyaknow said:
Is it better than v13? I see that it is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610634
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Duttys_2.5_5.23152.5.3.12_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V13a)_WWE.7z is COM3 BUILDS
Duttys_2.5_5.21916.5.0.95_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V12)_WWE.7z is COM2 BUILDS.
If you use GPS software like [Garmin XT],you should go for COM2 BUILD as It's work great and no problem with me.
For COM3 it may have some problem with Garmin XT.
For me the good choice is Duttys_2.5_5.21916.5.0.95_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V12)_WWE.7z is COM2 BUILDS.
COM2 have the start menu on the top left corner.
COM3 have the start menu on the bottom left corner.
I am ususally a stock ROM guy,lately I tryed many custom ROMs,my problem with almost all of them was that they are based on latest HTC 3.14 FW,since I rely mostly on WIFI,and after trying Zillion times,its connection to the WIFI is just unstable.
However for the last couple of days I found this ROM called Clynex,for the first time I am so far happy with the WIFI connection,Its a bare bone ROM,very fast,usually I end up with 110MB of internal storage after installing my usuall applications,now I have 256MB !!.
RAM starts with over 300MB,on stock ROM It is next to impossible to have Opera 10 running and at the same time open the Camera,with this no problem even with few Tabs running.!!
I am using the standard one since ultra doesnt let you customize your themes,if someone wants to try it I suggest that re-install the CHT-EDITOR 1.8.5,-I was having language incompatibility ERROR.
Nice thread to exchange experiances and views.
Thanks for that info. Clynex? Is that CleanEX? If not do you have a link please
Cheers...
Yes that is it, Im using the RV Standard v. 1.01. 6.5
I tryed ultra but switched back to standard 6.5 since I needed the Co0kies 1.8.5 for theme customization.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875125
I did couple of things:
1-re-installed the the CHT editor 1.8.5(not Cookies just the CHT)
2-installed the marketplace ,you can find the .cab somewhere in this forum.
3-deleted the unnecessary Ringtones.
4-I noticed that most of the Tweaks were already done,but I changed the camera 5MP to 762929 in the registery,this will give you photos of 720p quality.
You can try le last Artemis v48.1.
This is the best artemis ROM at this moment for me
I am using Dutty's family Rom V13a, amazing battery life compared to stock and it has not crashed once since installing. Stock was freezing and crashing all the time.
Re GPS and Com. My presnt PDA is using Com 9 for the GPS.
What is the standard for the HD2?
Cheers...
try duttys ... family .. so far the best..
straight to android
j_zy said:
straight to android
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Thanks for your comment. Why do you recommend it?
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shubh.27hd2 said:
try duttys ... family .. so far the best..
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Thanks for your comment. Why do you recommend it?
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Me too, i will recommend Dutty's ROM
why i like it:
it's fast
it's looks like an original ROM
easy to flash
and it's very stable

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