Radio Improvements in 32.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2 - Nexus One Android Development

I monitored my signal levels on my Nexus One for WCDMA only for 5 minutes before the I patched to the new radio, 5 minutes after, and 5 minutes with my wifes Cliq
Before (Stationary UE and it constantly performed idle-mode handovers between 4 different cell's)
32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2
-97 dBm 8asu
-111 1 ,-101 6 ,-111 1 ,-107 3 ,-103 5 ,-107 3 ,-111 1 ,-99 7 ,-107 3 ,-111 1 ,-107 3
After the patch:
-97 8, , -101 6, -97 8, -101 6, -99 7, -101 6, -103 5, -101 6, -103 5, -101 6, -99 7
CLIQ in same exact stationary location:
-105 4, -99 7, -101 6
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Some things to note..
Before upgrade, avg dbm=106.8
After upgrade, avg dbm=100.27
CLIQ avg dbm=100.66
Before upgrade in that 5 minute interval I performed idle mode handovers to 4 different cells while remaining stationary
After upgrade in that 5 minute interval I remained on the same cell.
Twitter -> genibus

genibus said:
I monitored my signal levels on my Nexus One for WCDMA only for 5 minutes before the I patched to the new radio, 5 minutes after, and 5 minutes with my wifes Cliq
Before (Stationary UE and it constantly performed idle-mode handovers between 4 different cell's)
32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2
-97 dBm 8asu
-111 1 ,-101 6 ,-111 1 ,-107 3 ,-103 5 ,-107 3 ,-111 1 ,-99 7 ,-107 3 ,-111 1 ,-107 3
After the patch:
-97 8, , -101 6, -97 8, -101 6, -99 7, -101 6, -103 5, -101 6, -103 5, -101 6, -99 7
CLIQ in same exact stationary location:
-105 4, -99 7, -101 6
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Some things to note..
Before upgrade, avg dbm=106.8
After upgrade, avg dbm=100.27
CLIQ avg dbm=100.66
Before upgrade in that 5 minute interval I performed idle mode handovers to 4 different cells while remaining stationary
After upgrade in that 5 minute interval I remained on the same cell.
Twitter -> genibus
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So, it helped then?

just the radio or the full rom? or radio + RIL?

dont really need a complete new thread for this since there is one for the rom and the radio is part of the discussion.

m00moo said:
dont really need a complete new thread for this since there is one for the rom and the radio is part of the discussion.
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Thanks for the helpful post. That thread has already gone way off topic with a wide tangent of "will i lose root" about 14 times.
In anycase, from the analysis above, the new radio does seem to help a substantial amount. At that point I had only applied the radio, have not applied anything else.

Radio seems better here. Previously, it was taking several seconds to make an outbound call here, now much faster.
Also, I pulled a 900kb/s speedtest when I'd nvere seen more than 300 or so here with the old radio.

genibus said:
Thanks for the helpful post. That thread has already gone way off topic with a wide tangent of "will i lose root" about 14 times.
In anycase, from the analysis above, the new radio does seem to help a substantial amount. At that point I had only applied the radio, have not applied anything else.
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Did you see your connection fluctuate between the 3G symbol and 'H' before? Do you see it now?
I've applied the new radio(and only the radio) on top of Cyan b5, and have still been seeing that. I'll know for sure if there's a difference when I get home, which is where I was really having issues. At work, I get full bars, but the data conenction just bounces between 3G and HSDPA

tokyomonster said:
Did you see your connection fluctuate between the 3G symbol and 'H' before? Do you see it now?
I've applied the new radio(and only the radio) on top of Cyan b5, and have still been seeing that. I'll know for sure if there's a difference when I get home, which is where I was really having issues. At work, I get full bars, but the data conenction just bounces between 3G and HSDPA
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The 3G -> H fluctuation is actually OK and won't affect you...
3G means you are in UMTS coverage... H simply means you are accessing HSDPA or Data services.

tokyomonster said:
Did you see your connection fluctuate between the 3G symbol and 'H' before? Do you see it now?
I've applied the new radio(and only the radio) on top of Cyan b5, and have still been seeing that. I'll know for sure if there's a difference when I get home, which is where I was really having issues. At work, I get full bars, but the data conenction just bounces between 3G and HSDPA
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switching between 3g and H is normal.constant switching between 3g and E is not.

DebauchedSloth said:
Radio seems better here. Previously, it was taking several seconds to make an outbound call here, now much faster.
Also, I pulled a 900kb/s speedtest when I'd nvere seen more than 300 or so here with the old radio.
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Excellent, I'm hoping this is the fix we've been awaiting. That previous radio patch didn't do much, for me at least.

can i flash the new radio update.zip if i have a stock, un-rooted phone through recovery?

zjchaser said:
switching between 3g and H is normal.constant switching between 3g and E is not.
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My phone has never said H. Only 3G, G, and E

mgorman said:
My phone has never said H. Only 3G, G, and E
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it's a cyanogen mod dilly, and yes you can flash it over stock. just read through modaco's notes on download page

mgorman said:
My phone has never said H. Only 3G, G, and E
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Like Justin mentioned it is a Cyanogen mod.. if you go into phone info:
Dialer -> *#*#INFO#*#* -> Phone Info
You can see network type will show UMTS and will show HSDPA (i believe) when it accesses data services.

mgorman said:
can i flash the new radio update.zip if i have a stock, un-rooted phone through recovery?
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I believe you can flash the new radio w/an un-rooted phone. Modaco has a radio update image with an executable batch file, you'd only need to put your phone in boot loader and run the .bat file after extracting all files in the same dir.

That thread has already gone way off topic with a wide tangent of "will i lose root" about 14 times.
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Haha good one!

Where is the new radio update to be found ?
Update: never mind ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619801

I get a verification error when trying to flash the radio update.zip

mgorman said:
I get a verification error when trying to flash the radio update.zip
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Don't flash it through recovery.. extract it to your computer, connect via USB and execute the batch file.

genibus said:
Don't flash it through recovery.. extract it to your computer, connect via USB and execute the batch file.
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there isn't a batch file in my update.zip. there's a meta-inf folder and a radio.img folder
plus, not sure how to launch bat files in ubuntu, lol. those those were windows specific

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After countless ROM upgrade attempts, here are my problems

I always seem to get the rom updated, 3.27 radio. DCD, Dizzle, or any other rom produces same results. Calls/SMS work fine, even 1X data works. Anytime it goes to EVDO it can't transmit data. I get the dreaded 1012 error. I've run through all the threads here, and i have no idea where to go from here. Any suggestions? If i force 1x, it works consistently, and the signal is at about 5 bars constantly. If i enable EVDO, the signal drops to 1-2 bars in teh same spot. I can reproduce this all the time.
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I always seem to get the rom updated, 3.27 radio. DCD, Dizzle, or any other rom produces same results. Calls/SMS work fine, even 1X data works. Anytime it goes to EVDO it can't transmit data. I get the dreaded 1012 error. I've run through all the threads here, and i have no idea where to go from here. Any suggestions? If i force 1x, it works consistently, and the signal is at about 5 bars constantly. If i enable EVDO, the signal drops to 1-2 bars in teh same spot. I can reproduce this all the time.
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Check out this thread here.
bimmerd00d said:
I always seem to get the rom updated, 3.27 radio. DCD, Dizzle, or any other rom produces same results. Calls/SMS work fine, even 1X data works. Anytime it goes to EVDO it can't transmit data. I get the dreaded 1012 error. I've run through all the threads here, and i have no idea where to go from here. Any suggestions? If i force 1x, it works consistently, and the signal is at about 5 bars constantly. If i enable EVDO, the signal drops to 1-2 bars in teh same spot. I can reproduce this all the time.
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the 1012 error is probably due to programming: mobile ip profile 1, username and pass. you might try assigning yourself a new NAI by creating a new username on sprint.com (from your pc)
as for the signal strength... you are seeing 2 different signals. EvDO and 1xRTT are on completely different bands, and should be different signal levels. However, the sprint evdo icon replacement (you know how the antenna icon on the sprint build shows more "bars") is misleading - it has a max 7 bars for 1x and max 4 bars for Ev (i think - going from memory- im at work)
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the 1012 error is probably due to programming: mobile ip profile 1, username and pass. you might try assigning yourself a new NAI by creating a new username on sprint.com (from your pc)
as for the signal strength... you are seeing 2 different signals. EvDO and 1xRTT are on completely different bands, and should be different signal levels. However, the sprint evdo icon replacement (you know how the antenna icon on the sprint build shows more "bars") is misleading - it has a max 7 bars for 1x and max 4 bars for Ev (i think - going from memory- im at work)
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I can't change that info on the site, it's a family acct and my dad has the info for that. I am on the phone with someone now, and it looks like they are changing some stuff on their end. we've troubleshooted the phone, she says if this doesn't work, they're blaming the phone. I'm not ready to blame the phone yet
EDIT: She fixed it! apparently she disabled and re-enabled my data services and that did the trick. Cool info about the signal strength indicator, i thought i was only getting about 50% EVDO. Apparently i'm getting 2-3 in here, and i got 4 when i went to lunch so I suppose it's about right.
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I can't change that info on the site, it's a family acct and my dad has the info for that. I am on the phone with someone now, and it looks like they are changing some stuff on their end. we've troubleshooted the phone, she says if this doesn't work, they're blaming the phone. I'm not ready to blame the phone yet
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tell them to assign you a new NAI. then run IOTA and let it populate the mip profile with this new info (could take a few hours after they assign new NAI before its all the way thru their system)
dcd1182 said:
tell them to assign you a new NAI. then run IOTA and let it populate the mip profile with this new info (could take a few hours after they assign new NAI before its all the way thru their system)
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I'll keep that in mind if this ever happens again. It's fixed and working like a champ now. I am curious as to why this happened though...it has to be something with me flashing all these roms and whatnot. If i keep flashing ROM's is there any chance that this will happen again?
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I'll keep that in mind if this ever happens again. It's fixed and working like a champ now. I am curious as to why this happened though...it has to be something with me flashing all these roms and whatnot. If i keep flashing ROM's is there any chance that this will happen again?
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officially: i dont know
unofficially: i think that as 3.16 is an internal, testing rom, it does some strange things. the radio is a major upgrade, and the official updater goes through a longer process. i first upgraded using the real RUU, and i have never lost any settings. but something about breaking the update down into parts and flashing the radio individually wipes it. that said, i dont think we will see this again, unless we see another upgrade that is this major.

Rev A or not Rev A

VZW xv6800
Loader: 2.40
Radio: 3.39.10
ROM: DCD 3.1.2
I see lots of discussion concerning GPS and Bluetooth (BTW the 3.39.10 GPS aq. speed is awesome) but not so much about Data Connection. Maybe I’m just not looking in the right place or using the right search terms.
Not sure if I’m putting this in the right forum, but this seems to be upgrade related, and quite honestly, the caliber of posts here seems a bit higher than in the general Titan forum.
Since upgrade my Data Conn speed is a whopping 150Kb/sec. Ugh. I have tried it tethered, Bluetooth, PDANet, PAN, indoors and out. Even tested IE Mobile to http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed . Never got much above 150Kb/sec. I typically got ~600Kb/sec before I upgraded my radio.
Maybe I’m having a bad air week and pushing a low DRC, I’ll continue to test, but my question is this;
For the purposes of troubleshooting/testing, how can I tell if I’m getting an EVDO Rev A connection (I know it is available here)? Is there a way to turn off Rev A and force a 1X connection or vice-versa?
Anyone else having problems with Data Conn. Speed? I use this fairly frequently and while I am just euphoric over the GPS, I may run into a serious dilemma when professional stress demands a faster connection.
You have rev A. As for the data speeds hmm- is you phone possibly set to 1X only? To check go the the phone settings menu and under the 2nd tab it says Mode of Operation, click that
Was set to hybrid.
I tried with EVDO only. 177Kb/sec
1X gave 121Kb/sec.
Have set it back to Hybrid, icon shows 'Ev', but still not sure if it is Rev A.
Signal is strong, would hate to have to roll back to stock just to test if the problem is with the Radio. What speeds are others getting with Radio 3.39.10?
Edit- What I am thinking is that I am getting a Rev A signal and maybe it is more sensitive to SNR and dropping my rate. Thus I want to turn off Rev A to test. Then again, maybe I just don't know what I am talking about.
check your EPST settings. if RevA is ENABLED, change it to DISABLED. its a misnomer.
No such entry in EPST.
Also,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394977&page=2
Been there, done that.
Thanks for trying.
Tried both with same speeds
Just tried both settings and the speed tests had the same results.
I'm using Radio 3.39.10 and Rom3.39.10(Sprint), have the option to enable/disable Rev-A but my speed is still 419.40 kbps. no matter which settings I choose.
what location are you in?
are u sure its one of the locations that has reva?
what radio did you have before you updated to 3.39? did you let customizations run?
I upgraded for the first time about a week ago. I initially went to Radio 3.37 and ROM DCD 3.1.2 and the VZW CAB using the SD card method. Customizations ran after the DCD ROM flash. Everything works seemingly well, other than the slow Data Connection. Yesterday I flashed to the 3.39 Radio. GPS Acquisition went from 60+ sec to < 10 sec. No change on the Data Conn.
With Stock Radio I typically received at 600Kb. Now it is 150-170Kb.
I’m in the SFO bay area, but beginning to think that Rev A is a red herring. Don’t really know much about how Rev A works, but after reading a great deal about it, connecting to a Rev A equipped station should with or without a Rev A equipped mobile should not affect the connection speed adversely. One either has a strong and clear enough signal for the higher speeds or one does not. I am connecting via EVDO, just getting really slow speed for no apparent reason.
Tigueraje reports speeds of 419.40kbps with Ev or 1x. Wish I could get even that. BTW, 1x should not go that high, so was probably connecting to Ev both times. If you truly want to check your 1x speed, try a soft reset, or at least stop and start the data conn after changing.
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Thanks, I'll look into that. Hope this is safe to do on a VZW phone. My PRI Version is 1.35_002 and my GPS is rockin', but I will proceed carefully.
nemasi said:
Thanks, I'll look into that. Hope this is safe to do on a VZW phone. My PRI Version is 1.35_002 and my GPS is rockin', but I will proceed carefully.
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i cant say that its safe on vzw. that post on ppcgeeks was a telus user...
sorry if i was misleading in my last post, i thought the OP was telus.
I haven’t done anything yet. After a rush to upgrade the Titan when I first got it, and many problems afterward, I have been proceeding very cautiously. I’m not confident that the PRI update will address my issue.
I just talked to a co-worker on VZW with a Treo 700wx. He is also having problems with Data Conn speed in my area. So, I think this is just coincidental to my upgrade. I will keep tabs on it, and if I can get down to Campbell this week (a verified strong Rev A area) I will test there.
Still curious about what speeds others are seeing with the 3.39 Radio. Anyone confirm Rev A (anything over 1024Kb/sec)? On VZW?
Alltel user here, just flashed to Radio 3.39 and have gotten two different download speeds of 1045.
Thanks for the info.
Just tested in San Jose, Ca (about 15 miles from Home) and got 927Kbps. Problem must be with the tower near home and coincidental to my upgrade.
927 0.204s (1024k) myvzw.com Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) 320x320; VZW; UTStar-XV6800; Window Mobile 6.1 Professional;
To clarify REV-0 VS REV-A
The download speeds you see when looking at EVDO will not be majorly different, it is the upload speeds that REV-A is most meant to address. REV-0 theoritical download speed is 2.4 mbps, and upload is 153.6kbps and this is shared bandwidth. REV-A is 3.5 down and 1.8mbps up. A DOM module will take from 1 to 4 T1s in and at the moment most VZW sites are running only 1 and some are running 2, so with a max BW of 1.54 mbps on a T1, you will not ever see the max download speeds of REV-A until 3 T1s or more are at the site, and like I said it is the upload that will be most different.

Speed drop?

I used to get 4 mb down. Now get 1? Sometimes 2? This happened after enabling tethering in the apns. Did I do something wrong?
-Android is the future-
I'm totally seeing the same thing. I'm guessing it was right after the OTA update. Anyone have an answer for this?
Now getting. 0.4 that's depressing...
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Same thing here... it's really sad considering we own 4G phones.
I noticed this as well. I was crawling around .4 Mbps at 4 bars last night.
Download a apn toggle or switch between sons then back to the one currently selected. Everytime my speed drops down to 30KBs... it brings it back to 300+KBs
Reset my apns and now get 2-3 mb down. Still not what I used to get but much more tolerable.
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what should i be doing to reset the apn?
also, i used to be getting 3-4 megabit now im getting around 1
what does your signal strength say in about me> status
mine says
-54 dBm ecno: -4 rat:3g
sometimes it says as low as -59dbm (as far as ive seen)
edit:now it says -57; -6; 3g... changed again to -56; -7; 3g and is now back at -54; -5; 3g... it keeps changing as i type. the ecno goes from -6 to -10 to -4. idk what this means. i know it means my signal strength is being surpressed and im only getting a 3g rating but beyond that, no clue.
KJBlackbird said:
I used to get 4 mb down. Now get 1? Sometimes 2? This happened after enabling tethering in the apns. Did I do something wrong?
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Holy Sh*t i thought that I was the only one! The speeds dropped even slower!!! time to switch to Verizon....

How to (and why) disable Spark LTE Bands

I couldn't find this info anywhere on xda but I wanted to share this with you all, as the xda community has always helped me and I've rarely had the opportunity to return the favor.
I'm a month into a new G3, and all was well until the last 3 days. About 10 days ago band 41 started showing up with great speeds. I only get about 105-110dBm (1-2 bars) but I was still getting around 20 mbs download speed and it worked great. 2 days ago, my G3 would lock onto band 41 at work and I couldn't get any data. Our wifi is sketchy and I need reliable LTE. After profile & PRL updates were no help, it would bounce from band 41, to 26 to 3G. Back and forth my phone was going band to band trying to lock onto a good signal but kept trying to hold onto the weak band 41 driving me nuts.
So after some research I found a way to disable band 41 & 26 for now until the network becomes more stable. If you are in an area where spark isn't fully baked and have trouble holding onto band 41 or even 26 you can do this. I now have a clean steady stable fast LTE connection at work where I need it the most.
To disable LTE bands:
1. Call or chat with a Sprint rep, ask for your MSL code, its a 6 digit number.
2. Go to you dialer and dial ##3282#, this enters you into a data menu.
3. Tap "LTE", then "edit"
4. Disable any LTE bands causing the issue. I started with 41 but ended up also disabling 26 as it was also spotty and fluctuating.
5. Then hit the back button and the phone will reboot.
You can the re-enable them using the same process at any time. I figure I'll check once a week to see if things are working. If they aren't I'll just disable them again. I would think this would also work on other spark capable devices like the M8, S5, N4, G2 but I don't know for sure.
Thanks, I hope this helps anyone that may be dealing with spotty spark LTE service until spark gets fully implemented.
Goodluck
What are you using to find out what bands your phone is using? Thanks.
engine95 said:
What are you using to find out what bands your phone is using? Thanks.
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Signal check pro. It's $2 in the play store. Has a widget too.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blueline.signalcheck
Macguyver said:
Signal check pro. It's $2 in the play store. Has a widget too.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blueline.signalcheck
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You can also see it by using ##debug# and going into LTE Engineering option "Band" will show you. (This is likely only on LG software, not sure on CM/AOSP)
@Macguyver. THANK YOU so much for this!
I'm on the fringe of LTE/eHRPD and just by killing band 41, my reception is finally holding LTE. I've have to put my phone on CDMA just to keep data until now.
I still average 15% cell standby meaning searching for signal, but at least it holds and my battery has gotten better using LTE.
Thanks again.
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@Macguyver. THANK YOU so much for this!
I'm on the fringe of LTE/eHRPD and just by killing band 41, my reception is finally holding LTE. I've have to put my phone on CDMA just to keep data until now.
I still average 15% cell standby meaning searching for signal, but at least it holds and my battery has gotten better using LTE.
Thanks again.
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Your welcome, glad to help. Glad it made a difference!
How to change LTE band to 3-5-40 in g3?
Switching bands on Sprint
Macguyver said:
I couldn't find this info anywhere on xda but I wanted to share this with you all, as the xda community has always helped me and I've rarely had the opportunity to return the favor.
I'm a month into a new G3, and all was well until the last 3 days. About 10 days ago band 41 started showing up with great speeds. I only get about 105-110dBm (1-2 bars) but I was still getting around 20 mbs download speed and it worked great. 2 days ago, my G3 would lock onto band 41 at work and I couldn't get any data. Our wifi is sketchy and I need reliable LTE. After profile & PRL updates were no help, it would bounce from band 41, to 26 to 3G. Back and forth my phone was going band to band trying to lock onto a good signal but kept trying to hold onto the weak band 41 driving me nuts.
So after some research I found a way to disable band 41 & 26 for now until the network becomes more stable. If you are in an area where spark isn't fully baked and have trouble holding onto band 41 or even 26 you can do this. I now have a clean steady stable fast LTE connection at work where I need it the most.
To disable LTE bands:
1. Call or chat with a Sprint rep, ask for your MSL code, its a 6 digit number.
2. Go to you dialer and dial ##3282#, this enters you into a data menu.
3. Tap "LTE", then "edit"
4. Disable any LTE bands causing the issue. I started with 41 but ended up also disabling 26 as it was also spotty and fluctuating.
5. Then hit the back button and the phone will reboot.
You can the re-enable them using the same process at any time. I figure I'll check once a week to see if things are working. If they aren't I'll just disable them again. I would think this would also work on other spark capable devices like the M8, S5, N4, G2 but I don't know for sure.
Thanks, I hope this helps anyone that may be dealing with spotty spark LTE service until spark gets fully implemented.
Goodluck
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Thanks for the bit of info. I turned off bands 41 and 25 to stay on band 26. Band 41 stayed between -115db and -123db and band 25 was a bit better but band 26 stays between -100db and -112db. Still not great but much better than band 41. On speed test for band 41 i was getting mostly 0's. On band 26 i am getting about 4megabit down and 2 megabit up. Never any 0's for download or upload. It does slow down but never 0's coming in on the throughput.

[Q] ViperOne 4.3 no LTE?

So since I updated my phone to Viper I have been really happy with it but it been really slow and didn't realize until a friend with the same phone, no viper, pointed it out that It no longer shows I have LTE. I checked over the past two days and I get it no where. Is there a fix for this?
Android version
5.0.1
Htc sense version
6.0
Software number
ViperoneM8 4.3.0
Htc SDK
6.55
Kernel
3 4.0_g6af28ec
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SMP PREEMPT
Are you talking about the signal icons in the status bar? Most "international" based ROMs (non-ATT) show LTE simply as "4G", otherwise "3G" for HSPA.
AT&T's branding of "4G" (for HSPA) and "4G LTE" uses different signal icons from almost every other version on the planet.
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Are you talking about the signal icons in the status bar? Most "international" based ROMs (non-ATT) show LTE simply as "4G", otherwise "3G" for HSPA.
AT&T's branding of "4G" (for HSPA) and "4G LTE" uses different signal icons from almost every other version on the planet.
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Ya, The signal Icon in the status bar, It never show "4G LTE". I have AT&T, I didn't know that they companies differed about the icons or i would have mentioned it, sorry
Dragonmaster0430 said:
I didn't know that they companies differed about the icons or i would have mentioned it, sorry
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No need to apologize. We can blame AT&T, and their intentionally misleading branding/marketing.
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No need to apologize. We can blame AT&T, and their intentionally misleading branding/marketing.
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alrighty, So do I still have "4G LTE" or whatever it should be call? Because my Data still seem slower than it used too...
Dragonmaster0430 said:
alrighty, So do I still have "4G LTE" or whatever it should be call? Because my Data still seem slower than it used too...
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If you are on Viper, and it says "4G" then you are connected to LTE.
Not sure what you mean when you say data "seems slower". You can measure you actual data speeds (if you haven't done so, already) with the Speedtest app. If its indeed slow, may be network congestion (try doing a few different tests are different times of day). Or maybe you have some other issue.
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If you are on Viper, and it says "4G" then you are connected to LTE.
Not sure what you mean when you say data "seems slower". You can measure you actual data speeds (if you haven't done so, already) with the Speedtest app. If its indeed slow, may be network congestion (try doing a few different tests are different times of day). Or maybe you have some other issue.
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My text messages, take longer to send and receive than my friends with my same phone and provider. I will try that speedtest, thanks =)
speed test results:
PING: 51ms
DOWNLOAD: 14.02 MBPS
UPLOAD: 1.02 MBPS
Dragonmaster0430 said:
My text messages, take longer to send and receive than my friends with my same phone and provider.
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Text messages (SMS) actually do not use the data network, it uses the regular voice network. MMS (pics or video) messages on the other hand, do use the data network.
SMS shouldn't take any more than a minute to be sent (unless you are in a poor reception area). It actually gets sent along with the regular 1-min interval "heartbeat" signal that the phone constantly sends/receives with the cell tower. So depending on exactly when the 1-min interval falls, your message may be sent in 1 second, or it might take 59 seconds.
Does it seem to take any longer than 1 minute?
Dragonmaster0430 said:
speed test results:
PING: 51ms
DOWNLOAD: 14.02 MBPS
UPLOAD: 1.02 MBPS
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Hard to say whether you are getting LTE speeds or not. Its on the somewhat lower end of what you can expect on LTE, but not unheard of. I've seen LTE speeds everywhere from single digits (Mbps) up to over 30 Mbps (and I've seen other users report higher speeds than that).
Its also on the high end of what you would expect from 3G (HSPA+) which on AT&T, I think I've seen it max out at 15 or 17 Mbps based on reports from multiple users.
So the test isn't conclusive. I think the limit of AT&T's HSPA+ protocol is 21 Mbps, and the limit of their actual infrastructure is more like 17 Mbps. But if you get a single test result over 21 Mbps, I think we can conclude you are on LTE.
Do a few more speed test during the day, and see what numbers you come up with.
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Text messages (SMS) actually do not use the data network, it uses the regular voice network. MMS (pics or video) messages on the other hand, do use the data network.
SMS shouldn't take any more than a minute to be sent (unless you are in a poor reception area). It actually gets sent along with the regular 1-min interval "heartbeat" signal that the phone constantly sends/receives with the cell tower. So depending on exactly when the 1-min interval falls, your message may be sent in 1 second, or it might take 59 seconds.
Does it seem to take any longer than 1 minute?
Hard to say whether you are getting LTE speeds or not. Its on the somewhat lower end of what you can expect on LTE, but not unheard of. I've seen LTE speeds everywhere from single digits (Mbps) up to over 30 Mbps (and I've seen other users report higher speeds than that).
Its also on the high end of what you would expect from 3G (HSPA+) which on AT&T, I think I've seen it max out at 15 or 17 Mbps based on reports from multiple users.
So the test isn't conclusive. I think the limit of AT&T's HSPA+ protocol is 21 Mbps, and the limit of their actual infrastructure is more like 17 Mbps. But if you get a single test result over 21 Mbps, I think we can conclude you are on LTE.
Do a few more speed test during the day, and see what numbers you come up with.
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The longer SMS sometimes take more than a minute and the MMS definitely, some dont even send at all with a max limit of 300k
I shall do more tests then ^_^
Dragonmaster0430 said:
The longer SMS sometimes take more than a minute and the MMS definitely, some dont even send at all with a max limit of 300k
I shall do more tests then ^_^
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Might be a different issue, where folks have reported having issues sending/receiving SMS and voice calls while using "international" (non-AT&T) based ROMs on AT&T's LTE network. This seems to have something to do with the ROMs not playing well with AT&T's deployment of HD Voice (their branding of Voice over LTE). Try to turn off LTE to see if it makes a difference.
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Might be a different issue, where folks have reported having issues sending/receiving SMS and voice calls while using "international" (non-AT&T) based ROMs on AT&T's LTE network. This seems to have something to do with the ROMs not playing well with AT&T's deployment of HD Voice (their branding of Voice over LTE). Try to turn off LTE to see if it makes a difference.
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forgive me for my ignorance, but how do I turn off LTE?
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forgive me for my ignorance, but how do I turn off LTE?
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Go into the phone Settings, select Mobile Data (near the top) then under Network Mode, you will see various options, and you can select "2G/3G auto"
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Go into the phone Settings, select Mobile Data (near the top) then under Network Mode, you will see various options, and you can select "2G/3G auto"
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Umm, Am i missing something?
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Umm, Am i missing something?
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It looks like you may have selected to setup AT&T options during the AROMA installer for Viper. In which case, its locked out the ability to turn off LTE or HSPA (3G).
I was also mistaken about the signal icons. Since you've setup with AT&T options, that is in fact the AT&T signal icon "4G" which does in fact mean you are only on HSPA, and not LTE (otherwise it would say 4G LTE).
The "international" signal icon for 4G is shown on the attached screenshot.
What do your APN settings look like? All I can think, is that your APN is not properly configured by Viper for AT&T's LTE.
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It looks like you may have selected to setup AT&T options during the AROMA installer for Viper. In which case, its locked out the ability to turn off LTE or HSPA (3G).
I was also mistaken about the signal icons. Since you've setup with AT&T options, that is in fact the AT&T signal icon "4G" which does in fact mean you are only on HSPA, and not LTE (otherwise it would say 4G LTE).
The "international" signal icon for 4G is shown on the attached screenshot.
What do your APN settings look like? All I can think, is that your APN is not properly configured by Viper for AT&T's LTE.
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oh well dang
umm It seems to look like this?
Dragonmaster0430 said:
oh well dang
umm It seems to look like this?
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Tap the one listed, and you will see a number of settings for that APN. Please post screenshots of those settings and post (will probably need 2 shots, as it all won't fit on one).
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Tap the one listed, and you will see a number of settings for that APN. Please post screenshots of those settings and post (will probably need 2 shots, as it all won't fit on one).
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Oops sorry bout that....
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Oops sorry bout that....
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No worries.
APN settings look find.
Its odd, I don't see why you don't have LTE.
You might try to dirty flash the ROM again (just wipe cache and Dalvik, then flash the ROM and keep your user data), but this time actually not pick the AT&T setup option. Seems weird, I know. But it seems the AT&T setup causes more problems than it fixes on the international ROMs.
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No worries.
APN settings look find.
Its odd, I don't see why you don't have LTE.
You might try to dirty flash the ROM again (just wipe cache and Dalvik, then flash the ROM and keep your user data), but this time actually not pick the AT&T setup option. Seems weird, I know. But it seems the AT&T setup causes more problems than it fixes on the international ROMs.
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.... I dunno if I know how to do that... This is my first flash... I followed a youtube vid...
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.... I dunno if I know how to do that... This is my first flash... I followed a youtube vid...
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I assume Viper ROM.zip is still on the phone (otherwise put it back on).
Boot TWRP. Go into Wipe, then Advance, and only pick Dalvik and cache. Then confirm.
Go into Install in TWRP, and select the Viper ROM. It should go into the AROMA installer. When it ask you what carrier, don't select AT&T. There should be an option for "other GSM" of something like that. Also, if it asks you in AROMA to do a full wipe, or don't wipe, choose don't wipe. Choose any other AROMA options as you did the first time, or to your liking.
Boot into OS once the flash is complete. During the setup within Android, its okay (and probably recommended) to pick AT&T as your carrier.
I don't know if this will fix your LTE issue. But its worth a try.

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