First time user, long time lurker...
I am new to the Android world and have had my Eris since about a month after it came out. I followed the guides and got the rooted 2.1 rom onto my phone. I figured I was fine with that and began installing all my apps again, setting my screens up, etc etc... I then read some more on these forums and decided I wanted to get the recovery partition and the 2.1 v0.3 custom rom. I lost everything (obviously).
Soo.. my question is, is there a proper way to backup all my apps before flashing custom roms in the future? Is it the NAND backup within the recovery image? Also, once the custom rom is flashed, what is the proper way to restore? Looking for a bit of guidance here. Thanks everyone!
That's a good question, I just got rooted and am about to do the rest, but don't want to lose anything
ok when u make a nandroid or BART backup it only backs up that build ur on at the time of the back up. no u cant restore the the backup after u flash a new rom and get the new rom plus ur apps. if u flash a new rom ur pretty much at a start over thing. but the market actually remembers what apps u have downloaded and will actually show them all in downloads or give u a notification that u have updates waiting.
now if u do a nandroid or BART restore it will flash ur entire backup over the new rom u installed. they way i and most others go about flashing and backing up is like this:
first: do a nandroid or BART backup of builds uve setup already and have all ur stuff setup on. sometimes ur gonna flash a builsd and run it for a few days or something and maybe decide u liked the older build better. so u got that nandroid/bart backup to always fall back on.
second: before u flash any new rom u gotta understand some builds are signed with different keys and thus will at times cause issues with apps and such. so before every new rom flash. do a wipe to both data and dalvik-cashe
third: flash the update.zip from the sdcard and enjoy. if u have issues with a build always before saying screw it and doing the nandroid. do a second wipe and see if that fixes some of the issues u may have had with that rom. if u still have issues or wanna go back to that rom u made a nandroid/bart backup of. just go into recovery and do a nandroid/Bart restore choose the one u want and restore away
Thanks for the detailed answer glad my first post was a good question lol
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Hello,
im am using the latest official ROM by HTC (2.73.405.5).
Can i upgrade to another ROM (Modaco or smth else..) without losing all my settings, apps, messages and files?
Thank you,
m0jo.
..or can i create a nandroid backup, install a new rom, and if i dont like it, just roll back to my old rom with all my settings using nandroid restore?
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if you have the recovery image, yes a nandroid backup will keep all your settings.
including app settings and everything, like EVERYTHING ahahah
If you read modaco's post with his rom, I think he says you dont have to "wipe" (from the recovery image) if you come from your version. (double check though).
so i think youd keep all if not then most of your settings if you dont wipe and just install the rom.
ps i thought i read somewhere that his rom might not be up to speed if you dont wipe first, but by all means, if you have a nandroid backup, then try it out!
(ps i found this out the hard way but updating back to ruu from htc website erases reovery image) not that this is even that relevent
just make a nandroid backup, then update without wiping. if it doesn't work restore the backup and find another way or fix the problem, if it works be happy...
thank you.
but next time pls tell me that all my settings ARE gone AND my phone loses a lot of features so i have to reinstall the official ROM... :/
i cant see how you lost your settings if you didnt do a wipe... but then thats why we said do a nandroid backup! so restore to that from your recovery image
all my settings are gone, i had to configure my phone like i started it the first time.. The only thing that was not lost, were my apps. But some of them are gone though.
m0jo said:
all my settings are gone, i had to configure my phone like i started it the first time.. The only thing that was not lost, were my apps. But some of them are gone though.
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then you did something wrong. if you don't wipe then your settings won't be deleted. modaco's custom rom 3.0 does NOT delete your settings during installation, i have done it like 30 times. also you were told several times to make a nandroid backup. if you did you can restore it and EVERYTHING is back like before. if you didn't do it is entirely your fault, don't blame us.
and what features exactly are you missing? mcr3.0 is full of features, you are eather dumb, blind or drunk
This may be a newb-ish question, but I was wondering if it's possible and how to make a backup (including kernel) with odin. If not, how would one go about doing so? I have a very nice setup right now with a custom kernel and a heavily modified stock rom that I don't want to lose, but I also want to try out the voodoo lag fix with ext4.
EDIT: If this has been addressed somewhere else, please post a link for me. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Use ROMmanager is has option to backup ROM you can download from the market.
It save your backup image to your internal SD card.
It also comes with clockwork recovery.
some info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734164
demo23019 said:
Use ROMmanager is has option to backup ROM you can download from the market.
It save your backup image to your internal SD card.
It also comes with clockwork recovery.
some info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734164
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My understanding is that rom manager does not backup the kernel. What I really want is a way to create a full backup of my entire phone, not just the rom and apps/settings/etc. It seems to me that odin should be capable of such functionality.
I heard once kernel is on it's on for good and independent of rom somehow.. so only way to get rid of kernel is by pushing it out with another- you should be fine with it, just back up your rom in clockwork
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My understanding is that rom manager does not backup the kernel.
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i missed that in your post but yea it doesnt back it up
This is great and all, but I really want a full system dump that I can flash back to my phone when those OH **** moments happen. Kernel and all. I just got odin working, and I really like the idea of being able to load up a full system backup and being back to where I am right now in a matter of minutes.
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This is great and all, but I really want a full system dump that I can flash back to my phone when those OH **** moments happen. Kernel and all. I just got odin working, and I really like the idea of being able to load up a full system backup and being back to where I am right now in a matter of minutes.
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I don't know of anyway to do what you want to do. Best thing I could say is do a Nandroid back up, that would take care of everything but your kernal. If you screw something up just flash back to stock with odin, flash the rom you were using then restore with nandroid.
This is why questions get posted in the dev section. Devs (AKA the people who know this ****) don't read the q&a section.
Go post it in developer section just make note that you searched and tried asking in Q&A and got no answer.... so you dont get reamed
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I just got odin working, and I really like the idea of being able to load up a full system backup and being back to where I am right now in a matter of minutes.
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I can see asking just to have some learning experience with Odin but seriously dont see how backing up everything with Odin is any faster/better than nandroid.
For one restoring with Odin requires you to be hooked up to PC. Nandroid restore can be done from your phone with backup from internal SD card and it takes mins to restore. And you can store your favorite kernel .zip file on internal SD as well and takes like 5 secs to flash.
I rarely, if ever, find myself tinkering with roms and such unless I'm at my computer, and I do keep nandroid backups, but I like the idea of having a comprehensive backup that I can load up and flash quickly. I actually find flashing with odin to be substantially faster than nandroid.
I know we all get to messing around trying to add "cool new feature x" and next thing you know something is hosed. This, to me is why a custom odin backup would be ideal.
I think I will go ahead and ask in the dev section, but thank you guys for the suggestions. Like I said, any help is appreciated.
Hello, im new to androids and rooting, and i own a galaxy s2 which i have just rooted with Chainfires CF-root which also installed Clockwork mod recovery. I have a couple of questions on how to install custom roms, for example if i would like to flash villainrom, what are the exact steps i need to take? I have read as much as possible but im not sure if the same applies to custom roms in general.
So far im thinking i have to put the custom rom on my phones sd card and then flash it via clickwork mod, however i have read something about doing a nandroid backup and data wipe bdfore flashing the rom. Ideally i would hope somebody can do a quick step by step guide explaining the above, and tell me weather this applies to custom roms in general?
Im very grateful for any help, thx in advance
Once you have rooted your phone make sure you have enabled usb debugging.
Go to settings, applications, development, enable usb debugging.
Then connect phone to pc, and transfer rom.
Then boot into recovery mode, to do this switch phone off, then press vol up, home and power.
Then wipe data, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache.
Then go to install zip from sd card, select zip, click ok and cwm will take care of the rest
Thx so much for the breakdown of how to do this, will this cause me to loose all data?
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Thx so much for the breakdown of how to do this, will this cause me to loose all data?
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Yes you will lose all data.
It's worth doing a backup, you can use titanium backup.
Download it from the market.
I don't tend to back things up, as contacts etc are synced and backed up with my google account.
And I just redownload my apps.
You'll find some roms don't wipe data, but it's generally advisable to always wipe before flashing any rom, and therefore backup if you have a lot of data.
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Yes you will lose all data.
It's worth doing a backup, you can use titanium backup.
Download it from the market.
I don't tend to back things up, as contacts etc are synced and backed up with my google account.
And I just redownload my apps.
You'll find some roms don't wipe data, but it's generally advisable to always wipe before flashing any rom, and therefore backup if you have a lot of data.
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Ok so its basicaly that same process when flashing any custom rom? just needed it step by step, thx for the tip on titanium bu, and thx again for ur help, much appreciated;-)
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Ok so its basicaly that same process when flashing any custom rom? just needed it step by step, thx for the tip on titanium bu, and thx again for ur help, much appreciated;-)
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Yeah pretty much the same for every rom.
It's always worth reading the first post in every thread though, as I came across a rom recently that could only be flashed using odin, I think it was litening rom.
But if not 99% of custom roms can be done the way I described
And I know what you mean about needing things step by step, these forums seem very complicated at first, the best advice I can give you is to read read read.
When I first joined earlier this month everything seemed so complicated but it's fairly straight forward when you get used to it.
I now flash about ten times a day, but I have a problem lol
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Yeah pretty much the same for every rom.
It's always worth reading the first post in every thread though, as I came across a rom recently that could only be flashed using odin, I think it was litening rom.
But if not 99% of custom roms can be done the way I described
And I know what you mean about needing things step by step, these forums seem very complicated at first, the best advice I can give you is to read read read.
When I first joined earlier this month everything seemed so complicated but it's fairly straight forward when you get used to it.
I now flash about ten times a day, but I have a problem lol
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Sorry for the delayed reply, lol jeez 10 times a day, i get how it can be so fun and addictive though, trying custom roms and themes etc.
As i said though im new to android, came from an iphone 4 which i always used to jailbreak.
And yeah i know what you mean, im doing my best to read as much as i can, but here on xda things move so fast and theres that many different things to learn it gets scary hehe.
Im still to try and flash a rom, i was going to try villainrom first, but do you have any other suggestions on which devs/roms i should check out, seeing as all this is new i might aswell get some practice in....
I do have another quick question, when i connect my fone via usb, which folder do i put the zip rom file into, is it External SD?
Anyways thanks again for your help, really appreciated!
EDIT* got it sorted!
Yeah ten times a day isn't an exaggeration either lol
I find what happens is I flash a rom, then a dev releases an update for another rom then I flash that, then I flash a different modem, then I find another rom, then another update and the cycle continues
You said you sorted it, but the rom zip file just goes in the root of your internal memory.
It's not overly important as you can find the file through cwm anyway.
As sometimes I'll download a rom through my browser and then it goes to the downloads folder.
But if I download it on my pc, I will just transfer the file to the root of my internal memory on my phone.
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Yeah ten times a day isn't an exaggeration either lol
I find what happens is I flash a rom, then a dev releases an update for another rom then I flash that, then I flash a different modem, then I find another rom, then another update and the cycle continues
You said you sorted it, but the rom zip file just goes in the root of your internal memory.
It's not overly important as you can find the file through cwm anyway.
As sometimes I'll download a rom through my browser and then it goes to the downloads folder.
But if I download it on my pc, I will just transfer the file to the root of my internal memory on my phone.
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Yeah thanks again i managed to get it sorted i guess i overthink things sometimes, but i followed your guide above and now im running villainrom
had to do a bit more reading/asking on the backup/restore front, knowing what the diff between nandroid/titanium is etc, and how and which to use to restore.
Also you mentioned above about backing up your contacts with google, i tried to do that but couldnt seem to, how did you manage it? as i cant restore contacts from my windows pc via kies right? now that im rooted with a custom rom.
Anyways thx again for the help pal, you've been awesome!
Is this possible? The full details are I had my phone stolen, and got a new one with android 4.0.4 on it. I have on my computer a copy of my latest backup of my old cognition gingerbread rom. Can I just use CWM to recover to my old rom, or do i need to first downgrade to a gingerbread rom, and then recover?
Thankyou very much for assistance
Edit: Also, I don't actually want to use the old rom, I just need the contacts it saved, afterwards I'll wipe everything and install a clean ICS mod. In case there's any way of doing this without having to revert
You'll probably need to restore the backup with a version of CWM close to the one the backup was made with, you can often have problems restoring if you're using a CWM version a lot (say 12 mths or more) newer than the one you made the backup with.
So I'd probably go GB/with a rooted GB kernel first, restore the backup & go from there. I mean, it could work first try with an ICS kernel that's running a recent CWM build, but there's a fair chance it won't.
Edit - And be really careful with stock 4.0.4, don't do a wipe while you're running that.
Wow. I just... wow.
Ok, so I did the stupid thing and just tried to restore my old backup without doing proper downgrading first and it ended up soft bricking my machine, couldn't get recovery mode up, but I got into download mode. So I downloaded my country's stock gingerbread rom from samsung's site and flashed it with odin just to see what happens, and somehow my old rom was working again, and I have all my contacts and data. saved everything up to google, upgraded to ICS, import.
Everything went better than expected.
Thanks for the help
Told you Important thing is you managed to fix it yourself without asking silly questions in Q&A. Not many people seem to be able to do that these days.
Well done. I'm glad you got it sorted
Edit -You're welcome
I dont know whether u guys are doing these.. Anyway just sharing, for those who don't...
I usually get bored when i use same ROM for 2-3 weeks.. So I'll flash new one..As u all know customizing new rom is not an easy thing.. (even though we have titanium backup etc) It is a tough task..right..? :laugh:
So what I do is, I take nandroid backups of fully customized custom roms b4 flashing new ones.. and store in my PC
Like that I've many nandroid backups of almost all custom roms that i used..
So now a days when i get bored of my rom,simply restore any of that favourite old nandroid.. :good:
5minutes max...:laugh: fon in full swing.. :laugh:
Told u already that u may feel it stupid if u r doing these already..
Also I dont know whether restoring nandroid many times will harm our device.. Well, nothing happened for me till date..
Thanks 4 reading..