I'm looking for a free alternative to JuiceDefender/UltimateJuice that can save me some battery life I would very much like being able to say turn off all 3G and wifi at night and then turn on in the morning, connect and update my Gmail + Twitter + Facebook etc and maybe again once every half an hour...
anything like that? I know it's allot to ask for especially for free but money's tight at the moment
apndroid has a widget that will turn off wifi and 3g
You can try sweet dreams app.
Also timeriffic
try data on demand
Or APNdroid
Tasker can do this and MUCH more.. http://www.dinglisch.net/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?catselect=29
It'll be on the market soon.
That said; why do people insist on this sort? The only reason I disable "Background Sync" is so I don't get emails in the middle of the night. If it's a battery life issue, that's silly.. Just charge the phone overnight.
I've tried a lot of them but I stopped at Timeriffic. I highly recommend this one, it's free, no nagware and works as it is intended. I have a Desire.
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That said; why do people insist on this sort? The only reason I disable "Background Sync" is so I don't get emails in the middle of the night. If it's a battery life issue, that's silly.. Just charge the phone overnight.
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Because in some country data package is not unlimit, and it charge on time-base not data-base (meaning if you open data connection for 10 minute, it charge you for ten minute even if you not download anything)
Vially said:
I've tried a lot of them but I stopped at Timeriffic. I highly recommend this one, it's free, no nagware and works as it is intended. I have a Desire.
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Thanks for using and suggesting Timeriffic to others. We appreciate the endorsement. As noted you do get control over the time to toggle on/off. The biggest battery drain is screen brightness for those of you looking to stretch the battery. Manage it and you will gain a lot of extra minutes of daily use between charges.
I also recommend Timeriffic. I have been using that app since almost the day I bought my phone. I have changed very few settings and it has helped out quite a bit. I also installed JuiceDefender but since I was already using something else, that seemed to be doing just fine, I really haven't done anything with it. I am sure you cannot go wrong with either app to be honest.
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?? Please let me know if it produces results on sgs2
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Try a search loads use it loads stop using it loads swear by it loads swear at it .
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?? Please let me know if it produces results on sgs2
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If you want an app which will schedule your connectivity like WiFi, 3G, Packet Data and GPS etc then you could use it, but if you think it saves juice and produce good battery backup then NO, it drains more than it saves, I know some users here who were fan of JD but ultimately stopped using it for battery saving. Now it's your turn to think on which boat you are.
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I'm using Juice Defender Ultimate and using Advanced profile. My last recharge lasted for 38 hours and still I had 15% battery left...and I'm on Lite'ning Rom 6.1...I'm not an expert...but seems like it's working.
For me its working great. I removed the blotwares from my phone (Hubs and all other useless things) and JD is working fine. I'm using the ultimate edition and very happy with it.
@ithehappy I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on everything bro
I too use Jd Ultimate, other than sometimes it stops working, it works great. I use it to overclock and control my cpu speed too. (with ninphetime kernel)
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I don't like this kind of apps. I think Android does a good job with battery saving if everything matches well together.
Therefore search your
personal best modem.
personal best kernel.
personal best rom.
Add some smart tweaks.
And tada you will have a good battery life.
I have been using JD Ultimate for quite while with my old Desire & now my SGS2. On the SGS2 it displayed a number of problems:
- sometimes it lost its configuration data
- other times it would stop working completely
- the location feature where wifi was only enabled in the vicinity of known networks didn't work at all
- the feature where wifi was supposed to stay enabled when certain apps are a running didn't work
Just for fun I uninstalled JD a few days ago and my battery life seems quite a bit better than before. It took a few days to get into the habit of turning everything on and off manually. Mobile network and wifi are only turned on when needed.
Yes. I think it works. It's a good placebo anyways.
I use Tasker to automatically shut off the radio's when I'm sleeping. Works more reliably than JD's patchy on+off routine. Of course, you could just turn the phone right off as well.
I think JD does work, but I'm not sure if it's work the resulting inconsistant connectivity.
Removing bloatware (use CpuSPY and the Running services in the Applications settings to see what's sitting in the background) helps a LOT. Removing all of the useless Samsung UNA rubbish is a good start.
I've undervolted+underclocked mine to 800mhz, I can't notice any difference in usage, I'm not sure if it helps much or not, but I tend to get somewhere between 2%-3% per hour idle drain (the phone is in deep sleep so underclocking/volting is fairly irrelevant to this figure).
Whatever, the hardcore anti battery saving people might say it won't work. But I clearly see a huge improvement.
Running JD Ultimate saves me a lot of power. I easily get 2 days of usage (very personal, but it works for me - I use a lot of Spotify all day.. high volume )
It just works.. period. Turning off data and Wifi over time, included with other automated processes can't do much else than save battery.
Android doesn't need an app manager.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
I have it installed but only turn it on when needed. Ie if I'm out for a long day and my battery is getting low I'll turn it on. But otherwise I don't use it. I think it died help a little. But also there is the inbuilt power saving options in this phone that seem to work well too.
I use to use the app, and it did work for me, but I am no longer using it as I am now always close to a charger. when I need to conserve power (which is very rare) I turn off all data connections as I have found that this is my biggest source of battery drain.
The connection itself and apps updating in the background or when the phone is asleep, to add insult to injury, my data connection is very slow, causing the apps to keep the phone awake for a longer period to pull all the updates
Juice Defender and Advanced task killer for AT&T SGS2, do they work?
I found that Juice Defender helped, but it also annoyed me as it is able to save battery life by disabling WiFi/data connections while the screen is off--and then took a few seconds to actually reconnect when you turned it on. Some may not mind this, but it bothered me.
As for task killer, I've only read that they do more harm than good, so never tried it.
Don't waste your time with those crap applications.....they are made to manipulate background running apps while they themselves ARE apps that run in the background.....killing processes that only restart themselves if need be....and are then killed again. Smartphones are not dumb. They do not need someone to tell them what they need to function well. If you need to save battery....shut off background data while you're out. Turn down screen brightness.....these are 2 little things that your phone leaves you in control of. Installing apps that control wifi sleep policy? Your phones OS has that built in set in the the wifi settings. Don't be duped by some "placebo" app. You have a awesome phone it don't need some 2 dollar app telling it what to do.
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Don't waste your time with those crap applications.....they are made to manipulate background running apps while they themselves ARE apps that run in the background.....killing processes that only restart themselves if need be....and are then killed again. Smartphones are not dumb. They do not need someone to tell them what they need to function well. If you need to save battery....shut off background data while you're out. Turn down screen brightness.....these are 2 little things that your phone leaves you in control of. Installing apps that control wifi sleep policy? Your phones OS has that built in set in the the wifi settings. Don't be duped by some "placebo" app. You have a awesome phone it don't need some 2 dollar app telling it what to do.
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And this is why I miss Cydia and Installous from the iPhone. The ability to try FULL apps for free. Then if they were worth it, and developer constantly updating it, huge community supporting it, it got my money and then some
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And this is why I miss Cydia and Installous from the iPhone. The ability to try FULL apps for free. Then if they were worth it, and developer constantly updating it, huge community supporting it, it got my money and then some
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Ummmm, u know u can try "full apps" for 24 hours (unless its changed) and return it for a full refund right?
OP, try tasker, I love that app
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Advanced task killer wastes battery, the LINUX kernel is pretty good at managing the ram as it is. Thus atk is constantly running wasting battery, usually killing apps that don't need to be killed, in many cases apps that are expected by the os to be ready to respond to you when use your phone.
I don't know how many times I have seen someone complain that "my phone is laggy, my battery life sucks and ever time I look at atk it its killing more apps and clearing ram all over again."
I always want to say no duh!
The only thing a task killer is good for is killing a rogue app. Using one to run constantly in the background as a secondary ram manager is completely counter productive.
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Like the others said above, atk is bad for your phone. It kills off processes that might just restart themselves, thus using up power (to remove them, then to restart them). Your phone's memory uses up the same amount of power whether it is empty or full. You might as well leave the memory full so that your phone can possibly respond faster to your requests. Android will manage your memory efficiently for you.
As for juice defender, I love it. I get about 50% more power without having to micro-manage my phone. I leave wifi and Bluetooth on, and JD turns them on and off as needed. It can overclock and underclock as needed, etc. However, if you're going to get an app, look into Tasker. That app will change your configurations depending on you're location. arrived to work? Sounds off, wifi off. At the gym? Wifi off, volume to max, Bluetooth on. It's very configurable.
I have used both. I only use ATKiller for apps I pretty much never use. As for Juice Defender (I have Ultimate) It works great for saving battery as it says, but like stated above, it does shut off all wifi and data connections and other things so it takes a moment for them to all start up when you need co0nnection. But if you're like I am where alot of the time the phone sits dormant during work hours its no big deal to have things shut off. Better to save battery for when you are going to use the phone IMO. So I like it.
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I have used both. I only use ATKiller for apps I pretty much never use. As for Juice Defender (I have Ultimate) It works great for saving battery as it says, but like stated above, it does shut off all wifi and data connections and other things so it takes a moment for them to all start up when you need co0nnection. But if you're like I am where alot of the time the phone sits dormant during work hours its no big deal to have things shut off. Better to save battery for when you are going to use the phone IMO. So I like it.
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i just didnt like that I was getting notifications late because the data was off. Maybe its only for 5 minutes but its still late and I didnt like that. I'd rather use a charger and keep my battery at a good level.
For me, the trade off of late notifications for marginally better battery wasn't enough. it didnt save on my battery life as much as I would hope for. I didnt think JD was worth it.
but thats just my opinion
I've never used Juice Defender - I think a few people had it cause drain problems on the Infuse.
ATK is useful for nuking apps that are holding wakelocks for way too long. People keep on ranting, "ATK is useless, Gingerbread has good RAM management" while completely ignoring the issue of wakelocks.
ATK is not a background process - when you use it, it kills itself by default after killing everything else.
Note: I don't use the autokiller features. I manually kill apps that seem to be eating data/wakelocking the device. I also nuke anything that I'm not planning on using any time soon to avoid any wakeups from those apps.
Back in early 2011, ATK was a required app for any Facebook user, due to Facebook holding extremely long-term partial wakelocks.
Bad news is that the current #1 battery drainer app is a "zombie app" that keeps coming back after killing it (Skype).
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Ummmm, u know u can try "full apps" for 24 hours (unless its changed) and return it for a full refund right?
OP, try tasker, I love that app
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Still you have to buy the app. And to receive full refund, you only have 15 minutes...
I mean not going to lie, I think JD was worth the money. It works well for me in my opinion.
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Bad news is that the current #1 battery drainer app is a "zombie app" that keeps coming back after killing it (Skype).
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I have skype installed and i noticed that it does drain if you are signed in.
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I have skype installed and i noticed that it does drain if you are signed in.
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As covered in another thread, Skype is one of the most common root causes of the "Android OS" "bug".
(In general, the AOS "bug" is not a bug in the phone - but the nature of suspend/resume on this phone is such that battery usage due to an app using data too often gets blamed on the OS.)
Hi guys i found app juice defender is that good for increase battery life? Im using cyanogen. Mod 7 dunno if look ok with this app any suggestion?
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the juice defender debate goes on. some people report good battery life while others dont. I personally dont think its worth it but you can give it a try. maybe you will like it.
In many cases, battery savers use more battery than they save.
All this app does is turn off the data/cellular network when in lock mode. So when you wake your phone, you get your data back. Some people report missed calls and/or texts because of this. For someone like me who looks at the phone constantly, it would probably drain the battery more because of the on and off of the data/cellular network. It also annoys me that when I'm ready to check an email or something, the data is not readily available because of this feature.
when i was testing JD, i was constantly missing emails, texts and gtalk messages because my data was turned off. I didnt think it was worth it.
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All this app does is turn off the data/cellular network when in lock mode. So when you wake your phone, you get your data back. Some people report missed calls and/or texts because of this. For someone like me who looks at the phone constantly, it would probably drain the battery more because of the on and off of the data/cellular network. It also annoys me that when I'm ready to check an email or something, the data is not readily available because of this feature.
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Yep I had this happen, and there was a delay because of it so it was very annoying.. I noticed way more battery life from a custom kernel than I ever did with juice defender.right now using entropy kernel with serendipity rom, gave me a good couple hours extra battery with normal usage.
How much battery does your phone use bring in idle? Mike seems to lose about one percent every two hours. Does this seem normal? I have almost everything off, wifi, bluetooth, Google now... Stock phone, no root or custom rom.
I haven't really noticed because I can't leave my phone alone long enough. However if I don't play at a lot of Tapped Out going from 7:30am to 8pm I'm often at 50%. That is with GPS off and WiFi on using it for maybe 10mins every hour for email or quick google searches.
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How much battery does your phone use bring in idle? Mike seems to lose about one percent every two hours. Does this seem normal? I have almost everything off, wifi, bluetooth, Google now... Stock phone, no root or custom rom.
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I'd be happy if my Galaxy Nexus drained at that rate in deep sleep.
My past few phones, including this one, that is normal.
Thanks for the replies everyone. I'll try using power saving mode overnight too, to see if it helps.
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How much battery does your phone use bring in idle? Mike seems to lose about one percent every two hours. Does this seem normal? I have almost everything off, wifi, bluetooth, Google now... Stock phone, no root or custom rom.
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That's great, when you compare it to all the other major android manufacturers out their. You want to improve on that? What kind of phone are you coming from because you should be using that as a base unless it was a basic phone. The only way to improve on that would be to use the built in battery saving feature and/or download a third party program so that you can limit how often you phone connects to Verizon's network.
In my opinion, you'll get better battery life by staying connected to wifi as oppose to staying connected to Verizon's network.
Cool, thanks for the reply. I'm coming from an iPhone 5. I really never paid attention to how fast that phone drained overnight, but I could check. Just wanted to see what everyone else was getting.
Is there any way to prevent this banner (picture attached) from appearing when Wi-Fi is initially connected? I use Juice Defender to disable Wi-Fi when the screen is off and it is very annoying to have this pop up every time I unlock the phone.
Every time you unlock the phone? Mine only does that on actual connects and thats it. You must have it set to turn off wifi during sleep? If that is the case... some dev will have to find where that is burried at in the OS. Easier thing to do is let it stay connected. Better on your data anyway and if youre on unlimited still why bother with wifi at that point?
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Every time you unlock the phone? Mine only does that on actual connects and thats it. You must have it set to turn off wifi during sleep? If that is the case... some dev will have to find where that is burried at in the OS. Easier thing to do is let it stay connected. Better on your data anyway and if youre on unlimited still why bother with wifi at that point?
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I purposely use Juice Defender to turn off data and Wi-Fi when the screen is off. Both turn back on when the phone is unlocked, which is why it appears every time.
ahhh on rooted phones with custom roms i don't recommend Juice Defender. It's usually more trouble then it's worth and more times then not ppl say it uses more resources then it saves (battery). And why data when screen is off? Just curious since you'll only ever get just texts and calls then and miss everything else notification wise.
My guess for what you're asking for is someone would have to make a special effort to do it.
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Is there any way to prevent this banner (picture attached) from appearing when Wi-Fi is initially connected? I use Juice Defender to disable Wi-Fi when the screen is off and it is very annoying to have this pop up every time I unlock the phone.
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I would suspect that this may be doing more harm than good for your battery life. My battery will last much longer using wifi if available. Maybe instead of using Juice defender to turn off wifi, you could try using the "wifi off during sleep" option that is built into the phone. I think it will accomplish the same thing and it may disable the pop-up within the system.
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I would suspect that this may be doing more harm than good for your battery life. My battery will last much longer using wifi if available. Maybe instead of using Juice defender to turn off wifi, you could try using the "wifi off during sleep" option that is built into the phone. I think it will accomplish the same thing and it may disable the pop-up within the system.
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I tried this option but it doesn't even work for me. Wifi stays on.
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I tried this option but it doesn't even work for me. Wifi stays on.
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I noticed that sometime with this phone (and the S3). "Off" doesn't seem to mean "off" anymore. My phone could mysteriously discover a known wifi network and suggest connecting to it while the wifi is supposedly turned off. If it is truely off, then it wouldn't know there is a network available!
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ahhh on rooted phones with custom roms i don't recommend Juice Defender. It's usually more trouble then it's worth and more times then not ppl say it uses more resources then it saves (battery). And why data when screen is off? Just curious since you'll only ever get just texts and calls then and miss everything else notification wise.
My guess for what you're asking for is someone would have to make a special effort to do it.
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I find that turning data off too dramatically reduces standby drain. It automatically turns back on if an MMS comes in and periodically turns on to receive other notifications. Juice Defender has worked pretty well for me and I'm on CleanROM.
I'm on CleanROM (1.0 still) with no apps to help with battery and i get .25% battery drain while idle (so thats 4 hours before i lose 1%) and 10-11% battery drain per 1:30 min movie with full brightness with WiFi on. How much better can the battery get on a stock battery? I bet you with Juice Defender you don't even get close to that simply because it actually has to run in the background while phone is idle to do it's job.
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I'm on CleanROM (1.0 still) with no apps to help with battery and i get .25% battery drain while idle (so thats 4 hours before i lose 1%) and 10-11% battery drain per 1:30 min movie with full brightness with WiFi on. How much better can the battery get on a stock battery? I bet you with Juice Defender you don't even get close to that simply because it actually has to run in the background while phone is idle to do it's job.
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Without Juice Defender I'd lose 1% every hour and a half on standby. Since installing it, it has been much better.