English ROM vs. HTC EzInput Traditional chinese (CHT=BoPoMoFo= ZhuYin) - Touch2 ROM Development

Edit: Solved (mostly), see Post 9 below... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6208267&postcount=9
I am living in Taiwan and got my Touch2 here. With the WWE Europe version that I got flashed by the shop I bought it I have no means to enter Chinese characters. With the WWE Asia version that I flashed at least Pinyin input is supported.
But I am still trying to get BoPoMoFo (Zhuyin) support working...
I see that the traditional chinese ROM comes with this input method. Does anyone have any idea how to get HTC EzInput Traditional chinese working on any english ROM?
I already tried understanding the registry settings for EzInput, and found that the items that EzInput lets you chose are in this key:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\SIPItemName]
"SIPItemName0D"="QWERTY"
I guess the item name would be "注音" (from the TWese manual)...
But at least with the setting
"SIPItemName0B"="Compact QWERTY"
it didn't work well... crashes when you select it. So I guess a bit more than just registry modifications are necessary... But I didn't even find any Traditional Chinese ROM for download, yet, so that I could examine
If this can not work at all, cab anone recommend any other (preferrably free) input method that accepts BoPoMoFo / ZhuYin?

---

TWese?!
TWese?!!!

---

suncrush said:
TWese?!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He means taiwanese I think
Anyway, did you try this rom : UPDATED 6.4.2010 [ROM] [6.5.3_23541_WWE_Radio_3.53.25.20] ? I flashed it to my touch2 some days ago and it had options for more chinese inputs in the keyboard menu. I'm not sure exactly if it is what you're looking for because I'm not familiar with the terms but I think trying that may help you
Please tell me if you succeed

---

suncrush said:
TWese?!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry for abbreviating "Taiwanese" to "TWese", I am just so used to that by now. I don't want to offend anyone, and was not aware that it is offensive. Unless you are offended by the name "Taiwan" as well... maybe I should say "traditional Chinese Manual"
zvoner5 said:
He means taiwanese I think
Anyway, did you try this rom : UPDATED 6.4.2010 [ROM] [6.5.3_23541_WWE_Radio_3.53.25.20] ? I flashed it to my touch2 some days ago and it had options for more chinese inputs in the keyboard menu. I'm not sure exactly if it is what you're looking for because I'm not familiar with the terms but I think trying that may help you
Please tell me if you succeed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the info about the strange input methods, I will surely give it a try
By the way, if you want to remove those additional input methods in your Touch2, maybe try deleting the lines you don't need from [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\SIPItemName]. This should make them disappear from the list.
Basically, I need the one that looks like the one in the lower right corner of this picture:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
It's a funny (but very convenient) way to enter Chinese characters, and it's basically only used in Taiwan. I'm pretty bad at Chinese, but even for me it is easy to use. Maybe this is because it's meant for school children

---

zvoner5 said:
Please tell me if you succeed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately only the same inputs as in the WWE Asia ROM are in that ROM, so not the one I was looking for. Still, thanks for trying to help

---

yellowfever said:
I already tried understanding the registry settings for EzInput, and found that the items that EzInput lets you chose are in this key:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\SIPItemName]
"SIPItemName0D"="QWERTY"
I guess the item name would be "注音" (from the TWese manual)...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm... after examining a Chinese ROM, I think that idea was wrong. The entry there is pretty similar:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\SIPItemName]
"SIPItemName0D"="QWERTY 傳統鍵盤"
It seems like there are actually 2 things that EzInput offers:
1) Chinese Input using one of multiple methods
2) QWERTY
Only the latter can be changed with this registry stuff... the former probably is somewhere else. I didn't even find where the labels for these settngs are, not in the registry at least
Well, back to the drawing board... maybe try to extract the ezinput.dll and see if that stuff is hardcoded there?

---

I know I'm talking to myself but just in case anyone else is trying the same, I'm sharing some info here as I go along...
So I am using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622054 as a reference for a working EzInput system that offers many ways to enter chinese, including my desired ZhuYin. Unfortunately it's only for VGA/WVGA, and makes Touch2 hang in boot screen, needing a hard reset.
Currently I am comparing the contents of this CAB with what is already on the device (WWE ASIA ROM), and it seems so far that at least some of the necessary files for ZhuYin are present.
So the next steps are verifying that everything needed is there, and then find out where to enable the selection of input methods.
If everything fails, maybe I can modify that VGA cab with the QVGA files from the WWE ASIA ROM, creating a QVGA version of that CAB... let's see

---

Last thing I did here is use a kitchen on both the WWE Asia and the CHT Hongkong ROMs, and I saw that the packages used are:
IME_CHS_2_1_19192731_00
and
IME_CHT_2_1_19192730_00
So my current idea is to simply (?) try to get the IME_CHT package in a cab form and install it. Or, if that doesn't work, try cooking a version of WWE Asia with the other IME instead of the original one.
Unfortunately the packages refer (in file and folder names) to 404 and 409, so I'm afraid some language parts might be incompatible. Well, I guess I gotta read some more on the topic of the meaning of those numbers, and how to use files from one language for another

---

Looks like I solved this problem for me
After comparing the CHT and CHS IME packages, it seems that the CHS includes all that is necessary for the ZhuYin input already. All graphics, dictionaries, etc. seem to be there, only the DLLs and some other files are different. This leads me to the assumption that ZhuYin could be activated without any file changes.
So I compared the registry settings of both packages (file: app.reg), and simply edited all differences on my device to reflect the CHT settings. And voila, if you write a new SMS, the input method is Zhuyin and it seems to work OK You can switch between English input (XT9 works OK) and ZhuYin as you want, and even after a restart its still working.
The only issue so far is that if you chose another input method (pinyin, stroke or handwriting), there is no way back to ZhuYin - only those three are selectable in the menu. So if you need no PinYin, then this is already the solution. I will try to also get ZhuYin selectable in the menu, then it would be perfect for me
Here are the registry settings, assuming that you have the WWE ASIA ROM already flashed:
Code:
1) Delete these 3 keys:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{F50603D1-CF2F-41D8-A74B-651226633FF0}
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{5AAFAF99-8D99-4466-A66D-95C44B608A84}
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{9E06C6B8-FE4D-4206-9A5B-6E4C1B8B6AD7}
2) in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip] change the following values:
"CurrentSIP"=dword:00000da4
"HWChineseMode"=dword:00000001
3) in [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Keytouch\Multiplay] change the following values:
"nSelectedIme"=dword:00000003
"DefaultIME"="ZY"
I guess not all of that is necessary, maybe I will edit out later the unnecessary stuff. So far I'm happy that I can play with ZhuZin finally

---

Thank You For The Effort
I'm having a US T-mobile HTC HD2 official ROM and is looking a method to input zhuyin without changing the ROM (or at least stay within US versions). Do you know if I can just get the necessary files from an Asia ROM and perform the same registry edit you did?
yellowfever said:
I know I'm talking to myself but just in case anyone else is trying the same, I'm sharing some info here as I go along...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are not just talking to yourselves. That's some valuable information you had shared. Thank you for the post.
yellowfever said:
Sorry for abbreviating "Taiwanese" to "TWese", I am just so used to that by now. I don't want to offend anyone, and was not aware that it is offensive. Unless you are offended by the name "Taiwan" as well... maybe I should say "traditional Chinese Manual"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think he was offended by "Taiwanese" nor "Taiwan". I think people just not sure what TWese is. Further, "Taiwanese" or "Taiwan" cannot be offensive as it is simply an identification. Would one stop identifying oneself as human if it is offensive to others?
(NOTE: referring to the Japanese during WW2 as the public opinions in US tend to take the Japanese somewhat less human)

---

kekwowse01 said:
I'm having a US T-mobile HTC HD2 official ROM and is looking a method to input zhuyin without changing the ROM (or at least stay within US versions). Do you know if I can just get the necessary files from an Asia ROM and perform the same registry edit you did?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No idea, sorry... did you check already if those files (for whatever reason) maybe are in the ROM?