Please help me pick a new phone - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey you guys. Currently own the HTC Touch Pro 2 AKA AT&T Tilt 2
I'd love to own the new HD2 but I dont know where to find one online for a good price and if its capable of the AT&T 3G GSM bands.
Second phone I'm deciding on is the Sony Xperia X10, and again, I see the only 3G band it can get from AT&T is the 2100 band.
So the lesser the bands it can connect to, the less 3G service I can get? Am I correct?
Thanks.

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You'll need a Telstra HD2 if you want AT&T 3G. As for the X10, the Canadian Rogers version would work on AT&T 3G bands as well.

chuck232 said:
You'll need a Telstra HD2 if you want AT&T 3G. As for the X10, the Canadian Rogers version would work on AT&T 3G bands as well.
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Thanks Chuck. I've seen the Telstra HD2's and their really expensive at the moment and have to load a hack rom on it for it to work.
What would you think of this Xperia?
http://www.puremobile.com/Sony-Ericsson/Sony-Ericsson-XPERIA-X10-Black-GSM-Phone/

Hey you guys, got a question about an unlocked TMOBILE HD2, would it work with AT&T 3G network?
Thanks.

youngWMuser said:
Thanks Chuck. I've seen the Telstra HD2's and their really expensive at the moment and have to load a hack rom on it for it to work.
What would you think of this Xperia?
http://www.puremobile.com/Sony-Ericsson/Sony-Ericsson-XPERIA-X10-Black-GSM-Phone/
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That one won't work with AT&T 3G. You're looking for something with 850/1900MHz 3G support. The white version of the X10 on that site would work.
youngWMuser said:
Hey you guys, got a question about an unlocked TMOBILE HD2, would it work with AT&T 3G network?
Thanks.
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No, T-Mobile and AT&T do not use the same 3G bands. It will not be compatible with AT&T's 3G network. The best you'll get is EDGE.

chuck232 said:
That one won't work with AT&T 3G. You're looking for something with 850/1900MHz 3G support. The white version of the X10 on that site would work.
No, T-Mobile and AT&T do not use the same 3G bands. It will not be compatible with AT&T's 3G network. The best you'll get is EDGE.
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Thank you again Chuck. I appreciate it. Now I will decide what cellphone to pick.

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Will HERO work in the US

If I get then phone overseas, and bring it back to the US, will it work here?
Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
evilxhwnd said:
Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
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Wow! i was thinking of getting the Hero but now that i know i cant use 3g. i dont want it n more...
I have a question though! im getting rid of my g1 and getting an htc magic from ebay!
Spec For Magic:
rom: 512mb
Ram: 288MB
Specs For G1:
Ram: 192MB
i want to have the Hero port on it. i currently have it on my g1 but its still a bit laggy and i dont have any widgets... whats the point???
so if i get the magic which has the same specs as the HTC Hero will the rom run fast with no lag at all cosidering it has 90Mb+ more ram than the g1???
minogue said:
Wow! i was thinking of getting the Hero but now that i know i cant use 3g. i dont want it n more...
I have a question though! im getting rid of my g1 and getting an htc magic from ebay!
Spec For Magic:
rom: 512mb
Ram: 288MB
Specs For G1:
Ram: 192MB
i want to have the Hero port on it. i currently have it on my g1 but its still a bit laggy and i dont have any widgets... whats the point???
so if i get the magic which has the same specs as the HTC Hero will the rom run fast with no lag at all cosidering it has 90Mb+ more ram than the g1???
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you could but it cant be the vodafone one as that has 192mb ram like the G1, it would have to be the full HTC one
cire253 said:
If I get then phone overseas, and bring it back to the US, will it work here?
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If you buy from T-mobile in UK, it should work in the US. I was told they use the same 1700/2100 bands that we do. Only Hero 100 has the 1700 band built in, so the regular Hero will not work for US 3G.
not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
evilxhwnd said:
Yes, but you won't be able to use 3G.
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What's sad is that I would rather use the Hero, relying on EDGE and Wi-Fi than to resort to using the iPhone... LOL
rhedgehog said:
not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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That's correct...... about UK networks. no 1700.
T-mobile is getting the Hero next year so will it go to AT&T or other operators first?
To the OP... the Magic that you are getting off ebay.... well that will be the same thing.... 3G won't work in the US unless you wait till Sept./Oct. when T-Mo US releases it.
I don't care much for 3G, it's a battery killer and I'm usually near wifi.
EDGE ftw!
As others have noted, Hero will only work on edge until the north american version with the 850/1900 3g bands are added.
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
jim_0068 said:
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
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That's something so stupid I cannot understand. Hero is awesome! It's like they want to sell less phones and have less customers. I would definitely buy one.. instead, I might have to get an unlocked UK one since I don't plan to change my carrier even if it comes to At&t US or Sprint.
tee aiy emm said:
That's something so stupid I cannot understand. Hero is awesome! It's like they want to sell less phones and have less customers. I would definitely buy one.. instead, I might have to get an unlocked UK one since I don't plan to change my carrier even if it comes to At&t US or Sprint.
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Wouldn't there be an unlocked US version when it's released here?
sorry
rhedgehog said:
not quite.
All UK networks use the 2100 band. None of them use the 1700.
You'll have to wait and see if the american version out later in the year supports the ridiculous t-mob US bands.
UPDATE: HAve checked, and yes, the Hero100 IS the european version, cos thats what the one i have in my hand is. it has 900/2100 3G bands. NO 1700 at all.
The US version is the hero 130, which will have the 850 and 1900 that everyone GSM but T-mobile uses. again, no 1700.
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So, since I was misinformed by T-Mo, I have a question of my own:
Will you be able to add the 1700 band with a software update, or does that require a hardware update through the mfg?
T-mobile AWS 3G using 1700 band will need hardware in the Hero to receive 1700 band. T-mo is making a big mistake here, they should go to hTc and get them to make a version of the HERO that would work with the T-mo 3G.
angr1112 said:
T-mobile AWS 3G using 1700 band will need hardware in the Hero to receive 1700 band. T-mo is making a big mistake here, they should go to hTc and get them to make a version of the HERO that would work with the T-mo 3G.
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So then T-Mobile would have both the Hero and the nearly feature-identical Magic at the same time? As much as I would have wished T-Mo to carry the Hero (very), the FCC passed the Hero with the AT&T 3G bands anyway.
jim_0068 said:
As others have noted, Hero will only work on edge until the north american version with the 850/1900 3g bands are added.
Also, tmobile has recently said as of right now they have no future plans to release the hero.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-Hero-for-T-Mobile-USA-Customers-116241.shtml
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so when is this going to be out... is anyone going to carry the Hero in the US in the next 6mo...? I want android phone really bad but I dont want to get locked in contract with a carrier that isnt doing to carry it.
zambezy said:
so when is this going to be out... is anyone going to carry the Hero in the US in the next 6mo...? I want android phone really bad but I dont want to get locked in contract with a carrier that isnt doing to carry it.
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You can buy the Canadian one and get 3G on AT&T.
evilxhwnd said:
You can buy the Canadian one and get 3G on AT&T.
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That's exactly what I was going to recommend, its $500 cad and $20 to unlock it. You just need someone from Canada to buy and ship it.

[Q] No 3G network on HD2 using 2.2 Froyo Cyanogen mod 6

Hello,
I recently bought a HTC HD2 and gotten unlocked to work with my ATT sim card also I had someone install the 2.2 Froyo Android software using Cyanogen Mod 6. Since I had the phone I have only been using Edge network and I know for sure we have 3g coverage. How can I get my 3G network to work on my phone? Please help. I am a newb when it comes to cell phones.
Thanks
Matt
someone correct me if i am wrong but the 3g bands for att and t-mo are different so even if you have 3g coverage you would only get edge. For faster speeds youll have to use wifi.
Do you have a Telstra-branded HD2? IIRC, Telstra uses the same 3G bands as AT&T. In that case you should be able to get 3G. Otherwise, the unbranded & T-Mo branded HD2s wouldn't work with AT&T 3G.
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jaekidd1012 said:
Do you have a Telstra-branded HD2? IIRC, Telstra uses the same 3G bands as AT&T. In that case you should be able to get 3G. Otherwise, the unbranded & T-Mo branded HD2s wouldn't work with AT&T 3G.
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I don't know how to check that but this HD2 used by a previous ower having Tmobile. Still having the same problem. Any help is appreciated.
thanks
Thread moved in HD2 Android Development.
but this isn't hd2 android section
No 3G on the TMOus HD2 on ATT
mattp_65 said:
I don't know how to check that but this HD2 used by a previous ower having Tmobile. Still having the same problem. Any help is appreciated.
thanks
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Unless you have the Telstra HD2 (there will be a T in an oval on the back bottom cover), you won't get 3G on ATT. The Telstra model is the only one with the ATT 3G band (the 850mhz UMTS band).
You will ALSO need to have 850mhz ATT coverage in the areas where you live and travel to get 3G on that model.
Hope this helps...
Hi!
I was wondering if there is a way to change that? Installing a new ROM, a software or something!! I bought the TMo HD2 and brought it to South America. Here we use the 850 MHz frequency for 3G, and I just found out the HD2 works with 3G networks in the 1700 and 2100 MHz frequencies =( Is there a way I can change that ???
technillion said:
Unless you have the Telstra HD2 (there will be a T in an oval on the back bottom cover), you won't get 3G on ATT. The Telstra model is the only one with the ATT 3G band (the 850mhz UMTS band).
You will ALSO need to have 850mhz ATT coverage in the areas where you live and travel to get 3G on that model.
Hope this helps...
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I checked and there is no T on my phone or cover. But I have cyanogen Mod 6, I was wondering if anyone else has this problem.
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Galaxy S2 support T-Mobile 3G??

Galaxy S2 support T-Mobile 3G?? EDGE only??
Use the f-in search feature.
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wootek76 said:
Galaxy S2 support T-Mobile 3G?? EDGE only??
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To answer your question the SGS II only works on Edge and not 3g for T-mobile.
brandenk0 said:
To answer your question the SGS II only works on Edge and not 3g for T-mobile.
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Works fine on 3g for me!
I am also using T-Mobile with 3G (or Orange T-Mobile as it is now called in the UK).
I assume the guys that can't get it working are in the States?
Getting 3g and h here on my tmobile, pretty fast to
shrubbery said:
I am also using T-Mobile with 3G (or Orange T-Mobile as it is now called in the UK).
I assume the guys that can't get it working are in the States?
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Correct. We would only get Edge here.
*Edit*
Just saw your name was shrubbery... oh man I love Monty Python!
Dirky said:
Works fine on 3g for me!
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Me too..
No problems here
the thread starter needs to title his thread "tmobile USA" because obviously this phone does not work with tmobile usa 3g. of course tmobile in europe will work fine.
Should have written my answer with more detail :/ The SGS II works for Orange in the UK but with T-mobile US it only works on Edge.
Perhaps You Can Help with T-M 3G?
vimto25 said:
Getting 3g and h here on my tmobile, pretty fast to
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Hello. I have a GSII from UK, on T-Mobile. Tried to work with a guy at T-Mobile to figure out how to get 3G (only Edge now). My unit is rooted. I would love (and would pay!) to get 3G working on my phone. Can you help out?
RobertCBoston said:
Hello. I have a GSII from UK, on T-Mobile. Tried to work with a guy at T-Mobile to figure out how to get 3G (only Edge now). My unit is rooted. I would love (and would pay!) to get 3G working on my phone. Can you help out?
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If your on T-Mobile US, you can never get anything but EDGE.
Thanks for quick reply...
...not to be a pest, but does the phone I got (UK GSII) just totally lack the hardware capability to do 3G, or is it a software/firmware issue that may some day have a solution?
RobertCBoston said:
...not to be a pest, but does the phone I got (UK GSII) just totally lack the hardware capability to do 3G, or is it a software/firmware issue that may some day have a solution?
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The UK GS2 lacks the current bands to run on T-mobile US network, since they use different bands compared to T-Mobile UK. If you want 3g/4g, you have to wait for T-mobile to release their variant in the states or otherwise change to AT&T.
RobertCBoston said:
...not to be a pest, but does the phone I got (UK GSII) just totally lack the hardware capability to do 3G, or is it a software/firmware issue that may some day have a solution?
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Hey BostonBob... you might what to take a look at this thread. It explains the situation in a little more detail: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16356271
Short answer... it appears one-half (the upload half) of the TMobile USA 3G signal is at the wrong frequency (meaning this phone won't support it.)
I looked around to see if there's a software hack to reprogram the frequency or a hardware thing. Best I can tell...
1) The SGS2 supports a VERY wide range of frequencies. The i9100 service manual shows it clearly supports service in the 1700 MHz range... but not specifically AWS (Advanced Wireless Service) that TMobile USA uses.
2) The service manual actually shows you how to go in and 'fine tune' the frequencies if you have superhuman soldering skills.
3) Bad news, even if you hit the right frequency, I'd assume the antenna firmware would have to be changed (well outside of my area of expertise.)
I keep hoping that someone with some knowledge of programming one of these antennas will chime it, but no luck yet.
Now that TMobile USA is releasing their bastardized version of the SGS2, maybe we'll get lucky and the telephony portion of the hardware will be interchangeable (though I highly doubt it.)
If it's any consolation, I'm in the same boat.

Need help. Got an LG Prada 3.0 from T-Mobile UK. Can't get data.

So I got my hands on one of the fancy new Prada 3.0's
It's effing gorgeous. I can't get it on T-Mobile 3/4g though- seems to be stuck on edge. The APN settings are correct, but no dice.
Any ideas guys?
The phone has 1900 and 2100... it should work on HSPA, correct?
johnrbell said:
So I got my hands on one of the fancy new Prada 3.0's
It's effing gorgeous. I can't get it on T-Mobile 3/4g though- seems to be stuck on edge. The APN settings are correct, but no dice.
Any ideas guys?
The phone has 1900 and 2100... it should work on HSPA, correct?
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maybe because of your provider or your rom. are you rooted ?
No rom. No root. Completely stock. If I pick cdma, loose service. T-Mobile UK phone, unlocked, Tmo us sim card
T-Mobile 4g frequencies are split between 1700/2100. 1700 uplink and 2100 down... meaning u need both to work. 2100 is 3g in Europe and is widely used but not in the US
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Thanks for that info.
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[Q] HOX+ & US T-mobile

Hi everybody,
The previous HOX was not supporting the 3G data on t-mobile due to lack of HSDPA 1700 as far as I realized. It seems that the same problem remains with the new HOX+ too since it cannot support HSDPA 1700.
Does anybody know something about it?
Thanks in advance
vivid80 said:
Hi everybody,
The previous HOX was not supporting the 3G data on t-mobile due to lack of HSDPA 1700 as far as I realized. It seems that the same problem remains with the new HOX+ too since it cannot support HSDPA 1700.
Does anybody know something about it?
Thanks in advance
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You should check the spec sheet at htc.com
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Here's a complete list of AWS carriers worldwide. You can count them on your fingers. If you were a manufacturer, would you go out of your way to include the AWS bands on your unlocked global phones?
Canada
Wind Mobile
Mobilicity
Videotron
United States
T-Mobile USA
Big River Broadband
Cincinnati Bell
Mosaic Telecom
Cricket Wireless
Chile
VTR
Nextel
vivid80 said:
Hi everybody,
The previous HOX was not supporting the 3G data on t-mobile due to lack of HSDPA 1700 as far as I realized. It seems that the same problem remains with the new HOX+ too since it cannot support HSDPA 1700.
Does anybody know something about it?
Thanks in advance
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airportal.de (site works on laptops but not good on phones at least for me)
I think when T-mobile refarms the area you live in this might give you 3g for unlocked ATT phones and international versions also.
954wrecker said:
airportal.de (site works on laptops but not good on phones at least for me)
I think when T-mobile refarms the area you live in this might give you 3g for unlocked ATT phones and international versions also.
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But it could take months or even years! Right?
vivid80 said:
But it could take months or even years! Right?
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Its popping up all over pretty fast. Central San Diego was empty until just a few days ago
954wrecker said:
Its popping up all over pretty fast. Central San Diego was empty until just a few days ago
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I hope it goes as you said in our region. I've seen an AT&T version of HOX+ which will support more Network frequencies as well as LTE. Would it really matter in my case? Should I go with the unlocked AT&T version or an international version?
I'm waiting until the dust settles on the refarming and on the next batch of nexus phones. Then the selections and used prices should really improve.
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Now there is also a Telus HTC One X+.
Does anyone know if it will work on Wind Mobile in Canada?

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