I have this weird thought in the back of my head that this lag I experience comes from these ROMs being deodexed.
I remember when JK6 first came out, I tried an odex-ed ROM and I was flying. I can honestly say that was the first time I enjoyed Froyo on my phone. It just seemed to work like everyone says it should.
Now I've tried almost every other ROM out there (including stock JK6 deodexed, just flashed it) and it doesn't feel like it did before.
So does odexing actually help? Or was I experiencing some placebo effects there?
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I am no dev, but as I understand things...
With odexed roms, certain apps are broken up into individual pieces apk, odex file, etc. Not everything gets loaded into memory at once. File I/O on the now smaller files (pieces) and the smaller memory footprint CAN (not always) contribute to a faster experience.
When de-odexed, these pieces are combined / all together in a single package and can only be installed on likewise de-odexed rom. Distribution. installation, modding, etc becomes much more convenient. With a proper lag free I/O system, whether a rom is odexed or deodexed should make little difference which makes de-odexing of roms the preferred method.
So, I've had my SGS2 for a few weeks now and have decided that I would like to flash a different ROM.
I have nothing against the Samsung stock ROM, but I am looking for something that removes all the 'samsung-ness' from the phone, i.e bloatware etc., plus my carrier (O2), amongst other things, has decided to include a bootscreen & sound that annoys me profusely! In the first few hours of owning the phone, I already installed Go Launcher Ex, as I wasn't a massive fan of the iPhone look to some parts of TouchWiz.
After doing quite a bit of reading around, I set sight on installing CM7. However, further research seems to suggest that features such as the camera and FM radio aren't quite fully developed, so I've been slightly put off.
So, in a nutshell, I'm looking for the following:
- Remove Samsung branding and bloatware
- A more android look and feel
- More tweakable
- Main features of the phone still function
- Fast and stable
- Receives plenty of development
Based on the above, could someone suggest a ROM that would be good for me? Villain maybe?
Thanks in advance
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Theres are several Samsung based roms, that come with the Samsung apps removed. There are also Rom kitchens, where you can easily build your own rom.
For a minimal Sam based rom with an AOSP look you can try Gingermod. Or minimal TW roms like Exynos or Wanam lite.
If you want AOSP based, keep an eye on CM and Oxygen Rom (not posted on xda).
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Dude,
From my experience, I can give you this advice :
Try CheckROM RevolutionHD V1.0 + Latest SpeedMod kernel = best ROM ever, Best freedom ever, best battery and No issues !
Really amazing combo
Brilliant, thanks for the replies. Regarding kernels, is there a particular ROM+Kernel combination I should use when I select a ROM, or does it not really matter?
Chris_J said:
So, I've had my SGS2 for a few weeks now and have decided that I would like to flash a different ROM.
I have nothing against the Samsung stock ROM, but I am looking for something that removes all the 'samsung-ness' from the phone, i.e bloatware etc., plus my carrier (O2), amongst other things, has decided to include a bootscreen & sound that annoys me profusely! In the first few hours of owning the phone, I already installed Go Launcher Ex, as I wasn't a massive fan of the iPhone look to some parts of TouchWiz.
After doing quite a bit of reading around, I set sight on installing CM7. However, further research seems to suggest that features such as the camera and FM radio aren't quite fully developed, so I've been slightly put off.
So, in a nutshell, I'm looking for the following:
- Remove Samsung branding and bloatware
- A more android look and feel
- More tweakable
- Main features of the phone still function
- Fast and stable
- Receives plenty of development
Based on the above, could someone suggest a ROM that would be good for me? Villain maybe?
Thanks in advance
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CM7 ticks all your boxes, camera app works, I don't use radio so not sure on that. Camera may be slightly lower quality than stock if you don't mind that, for me not that much of a biggie as most my shots are done on a normal camera anyway.
If you want to stick with a TW rom than check out gingermod, best of AOSP mixed with Samsungs TouchWiz interface so you don't lose any of the stock functions like camera and such.
First, an explanation of my situation:
I bought a Galaxy Note at the beginning of the summer. All-in-all, I was pretty happy with it. It was a much improved experience over my Atrix, which was in poor condition by the time I switched over.
I wasn't able to root at first as I only had access to a Mac, and there were innumerable issues in doing so - Odin was PC only, WINE ports of it failed to recognize the phone, the Mac equivalent of Odin (I am spacing on its name right now) didn't work with the Note, etc.
When ICS was officially released, I tried to update to it via Kies. Kies on Mac is a ****storm. It's incredibly buggy, toolbars and menus don't display correctly, it has trouble recognizing the device, etc. I was unable to get it to make a backup, but I eventually managed to load the ROM onto it...
... and that's when the real problems started.
My battery life has turned to crap. Everything runs incredibly slow. Everything's super buggy. Apps force-close all the time. My MicroSD card ended up getting corrupted - half of my music disappeared, of what was left only 1/3rd actually worked. I just reformatted my MicroSD, backing everything important up, etc.
I've been dealing with this for around a month now, as whenever I come to the forum I have no idea where to even start to fix this. I'm up for wiping everything and starting over, and I do have access to a Windows XP machine now so that may be easier... but I don't even know where to go from there.
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That's why I'm here - I need advice. I need advice as to how to clean up the current mess my phone has turned into and start over. I need advice as to what ROM to try and how to go about loading it. I need advice as to whether to root and how to do so. I need advice as to whether to install a CWM, which one to use and how to go about doing so.
Here is what I am looking for, ordered from most important to least:
Battery life is important to me. I loved how long the battery lasted before my attempted upgrade to ICS... now it lasts maybe 1/3 of the time.
I want something that will work - I want stability. No more constant force-quits of every freaking app.
A smooth, fast UI would be preferable.
Feature packed. I like the thought of cutting edge features of newer (or custom) versions of Android being incorporated - but this is far less important to me than battery life and stability.
My preferred method of installation would be using my Mac - but as I said, Windows XP is a very easy option for me as well. I could also install a newer version of Windows if need be, but would prefer not to go through that...
Thanks in advance for any help, advice and recommendations! ^_^
Get Odin and root your phone...
Download and flash TWRP... http://teamw.in/project/twrp
download a ROM of your choice
boot into the recovery ..wipe--->>cache/dalvik cache/ wipe ROM/factory reset..>then go to the install and flash your ROM...
These are very rudimentary instructions I hope they helped a bit...good luck
Do you have an idea for what ROM you like or want? Couple of great ROMs..for stockish check out flappjaxxx's for jellybean check out manelscout4life..stable and fast
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Techno is onto the correct answer, unless of course you are truly wanting the stock version back.
Kies and OTA updates are often flawed, and give the end user exactly the type of problems you are stating.
However, if you want a return to stock, the information can be found in the "note super everything thread" located as a sticky at the top of the general note section.
But I do agree with techno, that a root and flash of a quality custom rom is the way to go......g
Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
That is the best stockish ICS experience you can get and keeps all the functionality of your phone including the spen. He also offers a jellybean ROM but honestly to find the best JB rom for you just read through the threads read and REREAD THE OP of those ROMs..jellybean is fun and cool but not 101% stable yet..people still getting random reboots and some are losing there APN settings..so maybe just flashing ics and playing with those ROMs is best for you for now..FYI the above rom is smooth as silk and great battery life
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Again , I agree with Techno, and the rom he posted is the one I'm using to type this.
Flappjaxxx is a fine developer, and he has packed this UCLF6 build with full functionality , and much more.
He is , and will continue to be my top pick for quality builds and performance ...g
This is all really wonderful advice - thanks again!
I guess I have a few last questions:
What is the best way to root at this point? If I recall, there are multiple ways to root via Odin... is there a specific one you would recommend for my current situation (read: current buggy ICS firmware)? A link would be very much appreciated, as the roadmap thread is a bit... overwhelming with all of the options.
Are there any MODs you recommend I install after I have my new flappjaxxx ROM in place? Will tethering work off the bat? Will all of the Gapps (Gmail, Navigation, etc.) be there for me to use? Will I need to install anything else, or is there any recommendations that you have?
Thanks again a ton - you've both been enormously helpful!
Also, I just noticed that the recovery you linked me to (http://teamw.in/project/twrp) has no option for the Galaxy Note...
EDIT: It turns out you linked me to the wrong page - to TWPR 1. Here's the link to TWRP 2.2, for anyone else who comes across this thread: http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
Just my 2 cents. After you get straightened out, you may want to take a look here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29376779
Another stable rom with great battery life, and a super Dev a well. I have been running it since testing and find it to be the perfect rom and team for me.
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Okay ....
Please verify your carrier ....model ...and current software version ....then we can point you to the correct bits and pieces of the super thread.
I just want to make sure we are all on the same page ....g
Edit :
I'm away for a few hours ...
But I'm sure a few other helpful folks will chime in with the links ...g
phnord said:
Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
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Im using black star v flawless in my eyes..
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Hello,
I've rooted my XTZ and unlocked the bootloader. I've used TA-Backup to backup my DRM Keys. I'm on the 4.1.2 stock ROM still. I love the tablet interface of this ROM, so I have decided not to upgrade it yet. Based on this, I had a few questions about the custom ROMs I've seen there and what benefit I have in updating at all, or perhaps the cons.
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Are there any custom ROMs that use or have the tablet UI? They don't have to be based on stock ROMs.
Are there any ROMs that have a working IR Blaster?
Can I use any Sony apps in these custom ROMs and if so, where do I get them? I thoughtI saw them in the Apps and Themes forum.
Is there any reason I really need to go to a different ROM than 4.1.2? Speed benefits? Better battery life? Video performance?
What are the main reasons not to use a custom ROM?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
ColdSunNC said:
Hello,
I've rooted my XTZ and unlocked the bootloader. I've used TA-Backup to backup my DRM Keys. I'm on the 4.1.2 stock ROM still. I love the tablet interface of this ROM, so I have decided not to upgrade it yet. Based on this, I had a few questions about the custom ROMs I've seen there and what benefit I have in updating at all, or perhaps the cons.
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If you are happy with the ROM usability and performance I see no reason to meddle with the ROM as it is. Personally I kmow what you mean, even with all the stock Sony apps it is quite a quick runner. I never had issues of lag or slowness. Whatever OEM bloatware is added is honestly not very much bloated, at lewst no comparison to a few years ago when basically your only way to get a lag and nagfree device was switching to a custom ROM. Also many features thought up by the dev community have in some way or another been adopted by the OEMs over time.
Might also be a matter of habit and perception. You see so many threads about this or that ROM develpment, like Cyanogenmod immediately after market release. This also made me try it once and I really disliked. And went back to stock. So, the scramble for custom ROMs for many people is NOT to avoid the crappy unusable stock ROM but rather the fact that they already have grown used to say vanilla Android or CyanMod. And I can totally understand them, I have been buying HTC phones for many years because I was so happy with Sense. To each his own and if you are happy, great.
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Are there any custom ROMs that use or have the tablet UI? They don't have to be based on stock ROMs.
Are there any ROMs that have a working IR Blaster?
Can I use any Sony apps in these custom ROMs and if so, where do I get them? I thoughtI saw them in the Apps and Themes forum.
Is there any reason I really need to go to a different ROM than 4.1.2? Speed benefits? Better battery life? Video performance?
What are the main reasons not to use a custom ROM?
Thank you for any help you can provide.[/QUOTE]
4. I would take advantage of the official Sony upgrades unless there is something in 4.2.2 you totally hate. Sony has announced to upgrade at least through 4.3 and 4.4 and I will gladly check their stock updates out when they come. Speed benefits might exist, but I think on the negligible side... Maybe measurable with a benchmark but unnoticeable in normsl use. Battery life might be a tad bit better if less stuff runs in tne background, but if some Sony apps or whatnot bother you,much can be turned off under Settings/Apps and whats resilient can be disabled with TiBackup freeze mode. Ask if you need more detailed instructions. I have dumped all the Facebook / Twitter stuff and then some, and while it still is on the tsblet snd in the ROM it is just deactivated and takes no runtime resources.
Thank you, Walter_White. That information was exactly what I was looking for. I'm very satisfied with the performance and layout of 4.1.2. I don't much care for the change they made to the tablet UI in 4.2 so I'll likely wait until 4.3 is released and just upgrade then. My bootloader is unlocked though, so I guess I'll have to use the Sony PC Companion to upgrade and then lose root, unless someone figures that out beforehand.
If someone made an update for a custom ROM that had all my Sony applications and IR functionality, with the tablet UI, I would try it though. I'll also try finding the apps that could cause performance issues like you mentioned.
Again, thanks for this help.
So it's been a long time since I've been in here, and I've got a (rather stupid) question that I'm not sure can be fully answered, so I apologize in advance.
I'm looking to completely wipe my (now old) I777 and repurpose it as a music player, and I want it to be as fast as possible (so I don't feel totally bogged down when using it next to my shiny new S4 xD). Best ROM questions are bad, so instead I'd like to ask: does 4.4 KitKat actually bring any useful memory/resource optimizations to our phone? I understand the main thing the update brings is the ability to scale back the OS's resource usage so it runs on lower hardware and I was just curious if that actually happens with our phone on any of the current 4.4. ROMs, or if they take about the same amount as older JB ROMs. I do know all of the current ROMs, whatever version, seem to all run pretty fast already, but I just want to make sure this experiences as little hiccups as possible while still running the latest software and apps.
One last question: since I started flashing, I've used Sammy-based ROMs exclusively. Can someone remind me what functionalities I lose switching to an AOSP-based ROM? I remember Samsung's camera app (which usually has more options) is unsupported, as well as MHL-HDMI output is broken, but is there anything else?