So I love Set CPU and it was working for a bit, but now for some reason my profiles refuse to work. I have them enabled, but it always has "Main Profile" activated, which kills my batter. Below are my set profiles:
Screen Off 245/245
Priority: 100 Ondemand
Charging/Full 806/806
Priority: 85 Ondemand
Battery < 50 748/710
Priority: 75 Ondemand
Battery < 1 710/604
Priority: 65 Ondemand
I'm using KaosFroyo v23, but I haven't seen anything about bugs with SetCPU in it.. so anyone have any other ideas? It seems the problem is the 'Main Profile' over riding my profiles.
those are some pretty high profiles......... what are you OC to?
copestag said:
those are some pretty high profiles......... what are you OC to?
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You mean how high can I OC to? Umm, 824 is the highest I've gone too.
Holy **** 824, lucky bastard.
Anyway, I have the same exact problem. If you want it to work you have to go into set cpu and tap the "enable" button under profiles and disable and re-enable and then hit the back button to exit. This'll keep it working on your profiles until you reboot, so just do this once as soon as you reboot.
Hungry Man said:
Holy **** 824, lucky bastard.
Anyway, I have the same exact problem. If you want it to work you have to go into set cpu and tap the "enable" button under profiles and disable and re-enable and then hit the back button to exit. This'll keep it working on your profiles until you reboot, so just do this once as soon as you reboot.
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Yeah, guess I lucked out on my phone. It's kind of a beast lol. Anyway, I tried that but it still doesn't seem to work. In the notification in the status bar, it always says "Main Profile" rather than "Charging/Full" or whatever. My "screen off" one out does work, though. The widget will show my screen off settings for a sec when I unlock the phone.
It may just be an issue with the notification bar updating.
Oh and does that say battery < 1% ? or is it supposed to be 100%?
Just so you know here's an example of how profile priority should be done
When under 50% battery, 90 priority
when under 100% battery, 80 priority
You see how lower battery needs a higher priority? This is because when you're under 50, you're also under 100. This may be your problem. Make sure that lower battery gets HIGHER priority.
I also suggest you set a temperature priority, especially with your killer speeds.
*dies of jealousy*
Hungry Man said:
It may just be an issue with the notification bar updating.
Oh and does that say battery < 1% ? or is it supposed to be 100%?
Just so you know here's an example of how profile priority should be done
When under 50% battery, 90 priority
when under 100% battery, 80 priority
You see how lower battery needs a higher priority? This is because when you're under 50, you're also under 100. This may be your problem. Make sure that lower battery gets HIGHER priority.
I also suggest you set a temperature priority, especially with your killer speeds.
*dies of jealousy*
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I think this was the problem. I messed up the priorities, it's a tad confusing.. oh well, this should fix it. When I did the fix in your last post, I realized that both my screen off AND my charging one did. Just not my battery.
Thanks for the help man. And for the tip about the temperature, I didn't take that into account, being that I wasn't aware my OCing was that crazy!
EDIT: Yep, that fixed it! One more question, I'm assuming that my screen off/charging/temperature profile should be set at 100% Priority? Or should it go temp profile > screen off > charging > lower battery > higher battery?
EDIT AGAIN: Okay, I think the proper set up is: temp profile > charging/full > screen off > 25% battery > 50% battery. Correct? The temp should be the highest priority so it can override the others, then charging should be able screen off, since it's pointless to lower the overclock while charging, then screen off since it is important to battery life, then lower battery, followed by higher battery for the reason you explained.
Wewf. It's worth the set up, I suppose.. and btw I CAN overclock to 844, but it's not stable in the slightest.
824? nice....... thats why I was mentioning the high profiles......... most people cap out at about 768 on this phone......I just initially set mine there and havent really tried for more
as for the profile priority goes...... IMO the temp needs highest priority.... this is the one that does the damage if not obeyed ........
I personally have all my profiles (other than main of course) set to 480/245 so priority doesnt really matter
in your last post you mentioned it being pointless to lower OC while charging..... depending on your temp profile and charging method, this theory doesnt much matter..... since on wall charger I always exceed my temp profile anyhow (which I have set to the specs in the manual 40°C/104°F)
copestag said:
824? nice....... thats why I was mentioning the high profiles......... most people cap out at about 768 on this phone......I just initially set mine there and havent really tried for more
as for the profile priority goes...... IMO the temp needs highest priority.... this is the one that does the damage if not obeyed ........
I personally have all my profiles (other than main of course) set to 480/245 so priority doesnt really matter
in your last post you mentioned it being pointless to lower OC while charging..... depending on your temp profile and charging method, this theory doesnt much matter..... since on wall charger I always exceed my temp profile anyhow (which I have set to the specs in the manual 40°C/104°F)
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Yeah, I just realized something pretty bad when I charged it over night.. being that charging (the 824 one) was set to a high priority that the screen off, it was literally on 824 ALL night long.. I woke up and the battery tempt was 145 D: It was fine, my temp profile saved it from going too high, thank God.
Any ideas for a good temp to set that profile at, though? It's at like 130 now, but I think that's a bit too high as well.
specs list an upper limit of 40C/104F....
specs are usually conservative (my profile is set to spec).....but I wouldnt go too far over if I were you
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copestag said:
specs list an upper limit of 40C/104F....
specs are usually conservative (my profile is set to spec).....but I wouldnt go too far over if I were you
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Alright, I kicked it down a notch to 40C.
Thanks for the help guys.
I have mine at 41.7 degrees since I can hit 40 easy.
Quick Question -
Running Kaos v23 now - since upgrading from v21, I have lost the icon at the top of the menu home screen. Also, when I go into task killer, it is not shown as an active application. Any ideas???
Thanks
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Running Kaos v23 now - since upgrading from v21, I have lost the icon at the top of the menu home screen. Also, when I go into task killer, it is not shown as an active application. Any ideas???
Thanks
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Um, have you tried OPENING the app? Go to your app drawer, click on it, then check mark "Notifications" under "Profiles."
And yeah I changed the temp profile, cause it overheated during a phonecall..
Make sure it's installed. If none of your superuser permissions are working reflash an old superuser.
Does anybody have ANY good info on the Advanced settings for setcpu
sampling rate
power save bias and what not for our phones
or where we can find them ?
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Hi all,
Was just wondering what was preferred by everyone for Froyo ROMs..
setCPU or Collins Battery Tweak?
Which works best for you and at what settings?
Thanks very much!!! And hope to see some good responses
tcrappa2 said:
Hi all,
Was just wondering what was preferred by everyone for Froyo ROMs..
setCPU or Collins Battery Tweak?
Which works best for you and at what settings?
Thanks very much!!! And hope to see some good responses
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Don't forget CPUBoost. I feel like a groupie
I'm kinda sixes on it, setCPU tends to run constantly in the background and uses more battery power, so I prefer it for just overclocking, but I think it's interfacing is kind or a pain. It does allow one to set customized profiles variable priorities, when i had an eris that I could OC to 844 I had three different temp profiles set to lower the clock as the phone heated up
Collins Tweak is specifically engineered for battery life, which I really don't care about, and, if I correctly recall, the lowest percent underclock it allows is 10% as the battery drains. Aside from that, it's flexibility is great, is command prompt, which may bother some, but you set it once and can forget about it, it allows you to even define how often it starts to check the battery to adjust CPU limits, so you can to a degree define how little it runs in the background, I've set mine as long a 3600 seconds, it does have temp threshold settings, but only one set. I listen to Pandora all the time (maybe only 90%) and therefore hate the smartass governor, not in principle, but definitely in practice, and Collins Tweak allowed me to shut that down with certainty.
I've been using CPUBoost since Conap integrated into CELB3.8, I'm actually a little behind I haven't gone to 3.9 yet or installed the latest CPUBoost, so my one real complaint may be addressed by now, but occasionally the phone seems to just reset the settings, so I sometimes have to change the governor back. It's very simple interfacing and right to the point, governor, max and min. Unless support has been added there are no temp options, but my current eris ****s out at 768, so it's no longer a big deal for me.
+1 CPUBoost.
Ok - someone help me understand how this thing works. Can I only have three steps? What is the VSel1/2/3? Can I change the governor?
it's here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898036
That is the app thread but I don't see instructions.
Yes, there are three steps and for each one you can choose the CPU voltage (vsel) and frequency.
You can choose between two governors: performance (always at max freq and voltage) and on demand (freq and voltage scaling).
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Ok but how do I know what voltage is best? What frequency is best? I read the item about phone ringing:
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update7:
when i set my defy to 300mhz while screen is off then when a phonecall is incoming the defy is so slow that it takes ages for the screen to go on....
sometime it takes 2-3 ring befor i can answer the call
so setvsel set it to maximum speed on phoneringing befor the screen is on!!
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Is he saying he did that in code or an action is needed by the user to handle this? Mine still takes 3 seconds for the screen to turn on.
its preety much the same as overclocking cpu on pc ..but easier
just try ...each chip is different ..and it depends on the rom aswell
phone will reboot if ull set it 2low ...or ull get some app closing errors or stuff like that
safe voltages to start would be 300/20 600/40 1000/56 ...then go lower
So if I set it too low then phone will reboot?
What is the safest settings if I am still using stock rom?
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e-prast said:
So if I set it too low then phone will reboot?
What is the safest settings if I am still using stock rom?
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Yes if you go too low on the vsel for that frequency then the phone will reboot - just make sure at first you don't have setvsel configured to "apply at boot" until you have discovered your stable settings.
As for stable settings then maybe start with the first vsel & lower it until it reboots then you know it's too low & you need to go up higher by 2 vsel or so.
It would be easier to do each vsel at different times so you know which one causes the reboot.
Just for info my settings are:
300/18
700/32
1100/56
Up_threshold 75%.
I could possibly go lower on the 300 & 700 but I'm happy as they are. The 1100 on mine is set at the lowest stable vsel I could get.
As mentioned all cpu are different & what settings that work for one person may not be any good for another.
Ok thanks
I am still using the default clock but i'm lowering the vsel a bit. I'll start tweaking untill get the best result. I hope I can reach 1000 max. BTW what is the threshold for? Mine still in default.
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Threshold is the % load that the cpu reaches before it switches to the next higher frequency.
Just for example sake here are my settings. Actually the only one I changed was #3. [email protected] All the rest is left at default. I just wanted a bit of a quicker device, and changing just this one setting gave me what I wanted. Very stable and snappy now. My Quadrant scores are in the low 1700s. (oh and I'm on the official 2.2.1, but nothing else is changed)
How is your battery? Do you use the stability test to determine your lowest values?
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Yes if you go too low on the vsel for that frequency then the phone will reboot - just make sure at first you don't have setvsel configured to "apply at boot" until you have discovered your stable settings.
As for stable settings then maybe start with the first vsel & lower it until it reboots then you know it's too low & you need to go up higher by 2 vsel or so.
It would be easier to do each vsel at different times so you know which one causes the reboot.
Just for info my settings are:
300/18
700/32
1100/56
Up_threshold 75%.
I could possibly go lower on the 300 & 700 but I'm happy as they are. The 1100 on mine is set at the lowest stable vsel I could get.
As mentioned all cpu are different & what settings that work for one person may not be any good for another.
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Battery lasts a long time for me could get between 2-3 days on a full charge but i normally top up the battery every day and don't let it run out.
As for the stability test i did use it when there was a one built into the setvsel app but not for long. I just adjusted my settings then used the phone for a while to make sure it was ok.
How do I know how high I can go on over clock?
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Bump
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Just try it; but generally top frequency is 1200 otherwise you have to set too high vsel with consequences on temperature and stability.
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Just working fine, thanks
Hello guys, i have overclocked the cpu at 1100Mhz with 58v and is perfect but i want understand what is the maximum v for stay secure.
I have 1200 at 62
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I use
19/300
38/600
50/800
only for the reason - to to keep my Defy, without charging as lons as it possible. now my record is 4,5 day for normal everyday using (30 minuts of wi-fi, 45 minutes of conversations, a little bit games some times, 1-2 hour of reading e-books)
I'm currently debating buying WidgetLocker, but I'm a bit skeptical since I'm not sure how bad it will lag with my current sleep profile. Can any WidgetLocker users possibly shed some light if they think it will lag on my phone? I'll put my profiles below.
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Temp > 38.6C, Priority: 100, 480 max 160 min, ondemand
Charging/Full, Priority: 75, 710 max 245 min, ondemand
Battery < 25%, Priority: 50 ,480 max 245 min, ondemand
Screen Off, Priority: 25, 245 max 160 min, ondemand
If my sleep profile would make it lag, would bumping it up to 245 max 245 min help any?
Profile recommendations are welcome as well if theres anything that could be done to improve performance without sapping an excessive amount of battery. I have noticed my phone lags waking up sometimes and occasionally just when it's being used.
I would put your sleep profile at either the 2nd or 3rd highest priority - either right after the overtemp profile, or after the "on charger/full" profile.
my profiles usually look something like this (ordered from highest to lowest priority) :
- temperature (can have more than one; highest (over-)temp has highest priority)
- charging/full
- screen off
- battery (can have more than one; lowest battery % has highest priority)
- battery < 101% (this is the sort of like the "off charger, not overtemp, screen on state)
If the "screen off" profile has a higher priority than all the battery conditions, then all the "battery" conditions certainly can only be effective when the screen is on. (Note that the way you have it now, your < 25% battery condition always "wins" over the screen-off profile)
Also, note that your profiles don't contain anything matching the "off charger, 25% < battery < 101%" condition as they stand - what is controlling that, the default profile?
I'm not sure that there are big gains to be had by ratcheting down the min/max cpu frequency for low battery conditions: when you have the display on, it could well be drawing more power than the CPU - so, if your goal is to save battery, it would make sense to have whatever it is you want "computed" to show up on the screen as quickly as possible - so that you can shut the screen off that much quicker.
For the same reason, if most of the time the phone is on you are just "staring at the screen", and nothing is going on in the background, allowing the rate governor to drop to a low frequency saves you only a little bit (if the screen is really the dominant juice-user in that scenario.)
My GSB v1.6 Eris reports using only 2-3 % overnight - it's screen off profile is set to 160/245 - and I seem to be using the "interactive" governor on all profiles ... but I also use Toggle2G with a 10-minute sleep onset delay.
( Probably that means that I don't get email notifications as soon as I could, but that doesn't bother me much - I get them as soon as I unsleep the phone. If you are the type of person that needs to look at their phone every time your facebook updates, then Toggle2G perhaps isn't for you.)
I can't prove it, but so long as you don't peg your CPU minimum frequency too high, and rely on the rate governor to do it's job, most power savings are likely to come from managing the radio state and the screen brightness.
bftb0
What percentages do u recommend bftb0
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I would put your sleep profile at either the 2nd or 3rd highest priority - either right after the overtemp profile, or after the "on charger/full" profile.
my profiles usually look something like this (ordered from highest to lowest priority) :
- temperature (can have more than one; highest (over-)temp has highest priority)
- charging/full
- screen off
- battery (can have more than one; lowest battery % has highest priority)
- battery < 101% (this is the sort of like the "off charger, not overtemp, screen on state)
If the "screen off" profile has a higher priority than all the battery conditions, then all the "battery" conditions certainly can only be effective when the screen is on. (Note that the way you have it now, your < 25% battery condition always "wins" over the screen-off profile)
Also, note that your profiles don't contain anything matching the "off charger, 25% < battery < 101%" condition as they stand - what is controlling that, the default profile?
I'm not sure that there are big gains to be had by ratcheting down the min/max cpu frequency for low battery conditions: when you have the display on, it could well be drawing more power than the CPU - so, if your goal is to save battery, it would make sense to have whatever it is you want "computed" to show up on the screen as quickly as possible - so that you can shut the screen off that much quicker.
For the same reason, if most of the time the phone is on you are just "staring at the screen", and nothing is going on in the background, allowing the rate governor to drop to a low frequency saves you only a little bit (if the screen is really the dominant juice-user in that scenario.)
My GSB v1.6 Eris reports using only 2-3 % overnight - it's screen off profile is set to 160/245 - and I seem to be using the "interactive" governor on all profiles ... but I also use Toggle2G with a 10-minute sleep onset delay.
( Probably that means that I don't get email notifications as soon as I could, but that doesn't bother me much - I get them as soon as I unsleep the phone. If you are the type of person that needs to look at their phone every time your facebook updates, then Toggle2G perhaps isn't for you.)
I can't prove it, but so long as you don't peg your CPU minimum frequency too high, and rely on the rate governor to do it's job, most power savings are likely to come from managing the radio state and the screen brightness.
bftb0
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Never a post that isn't enlightening from you.
Yes my default clock profile (710 max 160 min, might bump it up to 245 min) is the one managing the clock rate when the phone is off the charger. As for Toggle2G that might not be a bad idea, I keep my phone on Airplane Mode most of the time I'm at school (horrible signal = battery draining out the wazoo) but it might not be a bad idea to have for when I'm not at school. Of course I'm not sure I would need it though since I have an extended battery, maybe something to experiment with.
As for profiles, something like this?
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Temp > 38.6C, Priority: 100, 480 max 160 min, ondemand
Screen Off, Priority: 75, 245 max 160 min, ondemand
Charging/Full, Priority: 50 ,710 max 245 min, ondemand
Battery < 25%, Priority: 25, 480 max 245 min, ondemand
If you are already using Airplane Mode because of poor signal conditions, Toggle2G won't help much - the battery will drain just looking for voice/1xRTT service (not to mention 3G). I have a pretty good signal where my phone spends most of it's time, including overnight ( -70 dBm to -80 dBm )
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As for profiles, something like this?
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Temp > 38.6C, Priority: 100, 480 max 160 min, ondemand
Screen Off, Priority: 75, 245 max 160 min, ondemand
Charging/Full, Priority: 50 ,710 max 245 min, ondemand
Battery < 25%, Priority: 25, 480 max 245 min, ondemand
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Seems OK. I have a couple of battery profiles where I slowly drop the max frequency, and make the default condition explicit by using a "battery < 101%" profile, as in:
Pr Min/Max Governor Condition
90 245/480 interactive Temp > 50.0 C *audible alarm
80 245/604 interactive Temp > 45.2 C
70 528/710 interactive Charging
60 160/245 interactive Screen Off
50 160/480 interactive Battery < 15%
40 160/528 interactive Battery < 25%
30 245/604 interactive Battery < 40%
20 480/710 interactive Battery < 67%
10 480/729 interactive Battery < 101%
I'm not sure this really produces much effect in terms of battery savings, though - for instance, it runs counter to my suggestion (above) that it might actually hurt to slow things down with reduced battery reserve because you just end up with the screen on longer.
I'll also mention that for a period of time I was actually convinced that using setCPU was causing random freeze-ups when used with certain combinations of the CFS kernel, governor choice, and min frequency - and so I didn't even have it installed on my phone. I only recently put setCPU back on my phone because I was noticing that CPUboost settings did not seem to be sticking even within the same session (perhaps I was misinterpreting something, I'm not sure). No random freeze-ups lately.
Because some of the things which actually drain the battery - cell radio, screen time on & brightness, 3G activity level, etc., are so highly variable, I'm not sure that any of the reports on this forum (including mine) can be regarded as particularly meaningful. It takes real dedication to the task (creating reproducible signal conditions and compute/activity workloads) to be able to produce quality data about battery usage. Most folks need to use their phones throughout the day (moving continuously from place to place with widely varying signal levels), so they can't set their phones aside to do such things; their usage is not repeatable, so it is hard to believe them, whether they are saying "great battery life", or "battery life sucks!".
Heck, even at night, when my phone isn't "doing anything", (which you would think would be sort of "reproducible") if I move it 8 inches one way or another on the nightstand, my signal level can change by 10 dBm. That means that if I don't use Airplane Mode overnight, it is really not too meaningful to compare "configuration X" to "configuration Y" on successive nights - because the battery usage by the radio is not reproducible.
I guess the bottom line is - if you can get a full day out of the phone, be happy with that; it's just about what the phone was designed to do.
bftb0
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If you are already using Airplane Mode because of poor signal conditions, Toggle2G won't help much - the battery will drain just looking for voice/1xRTT service (not to mention 3G). I have a pretty good signal where my phone spends most of it's time, including overnight ( -70 dBm to -80 dBm )
Seems OK. I have a couple of battery profiles where I slowly drop the max frequency, and make the default condition explicit by using a "battery < 101%" profile, as in:
Pr Min/Max Governor Condition
90 245/480 interactive Temp > 50.0 C *audible alarm
80 245/604 interactive Temp > 45.2 C
70 528/710 interactive Charging
60 160/245 interactive Screen Off
50 160/480 interactive Battery < 15%
40 160/528 interactive Battery < 25%
30 245/604 interactive Battery < 40%
20 480/710 interactive Battery < 67%
10 480/729 interactive Battery < 101%
I'm not sure this really produces much effect in terms of battery savings, though - for instance, it runs counter to my suggestion (above) that it might actually hurt to slow things down with reduced battery reserve because you just end up with the screen on longer.
I'll also mention that for a period of time I was actually convinced that using setCPU was causing random freeze-ups when used with certain combinations of the CFS kernel, governor choice, and min frequency - and so I didn't even have it installed on my phone. I only recently put setCPU back on my phone because I was noticing that CPUboost settings did not seem to be sticking even within the same session (perhaps I was misinterpreting something, I'm not sure). No random freeze-ups lately.
Because some of the things which actually drain the battery - cell radio, screen time on & brightness, 3G activity level, etc., are so highly variable, I'm not sure that any of the reports on this forum (including mine) can be regarded as particularly meaningful. It takes real dedication to the task (creating reproducible signal conditions and compute/activity workloads) to be able to produce quality data about battery usage. Most folks need to use their phones throughout the day (moving continuously from place to place with widely varying signal levels), so they can't set their phones aside to do such things; their usage is not repeatable, so it is hard to believe them, whether they are saying "great battery life", or "battery life sucks!".
Heck, even at night, when my phone isn't "doing anything", (which you would think would be sort of "reproducible") if I move it 8 inches one way or another on the nightstand, my signal level can change by 10 dBm. That means that if I don't use Airplane Mode overnight, it is really not too meaningful to compare "configuration X" to "configuration Y" on successive nights - because the battery usage by the radio is not reproducible.
I guess the bottom line is - if you can get a full day out of the phone, be happy with that; it's just about what the phone was designed to do.
bftb0
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Hm, I might try those profiles with a few tweaks, or I might just end up bumping up my screen off profile in terms of priority, not sure yet.
Another question, what do you suggest as far as governors go? I seem to have the most success with ondemand, but I've never tried interactive. I learned the hard way that smartass lags my phone horribly, not sure why.
With my extended battery, I've gone roughly 65 hours total uptime with about 45% battery left with moderate use. I guess I should be proud of that.
ToastPwnz said:
I'm currently debating buying WidgetLocker, but I'm a bit skeptical since I'm not sure how bad it will lag with my current sleep profile. Can any WidgetLocker users possibly shed some light if they think it will lag on my phone? I'll put my profiles below.
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Temp > 38.6C, Priority: 100, 480 max 160 min, ondemand
Charging/Full, Priority: 75, 710 max 245 min, ondemand
Battery < 25%, Priority: 50 ,480 max 245 min, ondemand
Screen Off, Priority: 25, 245 max 160 min, ondemand
If my sleep profile would make it lag, would bumping it up to 245 max 245 min help any?
Profile recommendations are welcome as well if theres anything that could be done to improve performance without sapping an excessive amount of battery. I have noticed my phone lags waking up sometimes and occasionally just when it's being used.
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Wow you actually set a max of 480 for merely being over 38.6C??? I think that's a bit extreme. Other than that your profiles aren't that different than what I use (using Conap's CPUBoost tool, what are you using?).
I love WidgetLocker, and yes it's one of the only two apps I've actually purchased. Lag or not I wouldn't trade it.
The only "issue" (not necessarily WL's fault) is that using the Theme Chooser under GB ROMs, at least with the Speedometer Battery theme, definitely causes WL to lose what widgets are on it between reboots, although not always every reboot, but most of them.
It's confirmed that the solution is to not use Theme Chooser, at least with the Speedometer Battery theme. I don't know for sure if other themes cause it as well, but it's easily reversed (go back to the stock theme) if it does.
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Wow you actually set a max of 480 for merely being over 38.6C??? I think that's a bit extreme. Other than that your profiles aren't that different than what I use (using Conap's CPUBoost tool, what are you using?).
I love WidgetLocker, and yes it's one of the only two apps I've actually purchased. Lag or not I wouldn't trade it.
The only "issue" (not necessarily WL's fault) is that using the Theme Chooser under GB ROMs, at least with the Speedometer Battery theme, definitely causes WL to lose what widgets are on it between reboots, although not always every reboot, but most of them.
It's confirmed that the solution is to not use Theme Chooser, at least with the Speedometer Battery theme. I don't know for sure if other themes cause it as well, but it's easily reversed (go back to the stock theme) if it does.
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I'm still using SetCPU.
Yes I do knock it down that far, my phone heats up like crazy while I'm at school (terrible signal) and once it reaches 100F I could use the phone as a hand warmer and if I take off the back I can smell burning plastic. Maybe thats normal for the Eris, but I use it just as a precautionary measure.
ToastPwnz said:
Another question, what do you suggest as far as governors go? I seem to have the most success with ondemand, but I've never tried interactive. I learned the hard way that smartass lags my phone horribly, not sure why.
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I haven't spent much time trying to figure out the "best" governor - I tend to use either "ondemand" or "interactive" without giving it too much thought. I tried smartass for a while, and remember being not happy with it for some reason or another; but I don't remember what those reasons were. ( It might have been nothing more than "choppiness" of scrolling behaviors. )
bftb0 said:
I haven't spent much time trying to figure out the "best" governor - I tend to use either "ondemand" or "interactive" without giving it too much thought. I tried smartass for a while, and remember being not happy with it for some reason or another; but I don't remember what those reasons were. ( It might have been nothing more than "choppiness" of scrolling behaviors. )
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Now my curiosity is getting the best of me. Whats the difference between ondemand and interactive? (Sorry for all my questions <.<)
ToastPwnz said:
Now my curiosity is getting the best of me. Whats the difference between ondemand and interactive? (Sorry for all my questions <.<)
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I don't know for sure...
... but I can tell you that the exact answer to your question is right here.
bftb0 said:
I don't know for sure...
... but I can tell you that the exact answer to your question is right here.
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Hidden within that garbled mess.
I kid, I think I found the explanation you had in mind, and from what I can find the only major difference is that interactive is more aggressive then ondemand. I'm not sure if I should take that governor for a test run or not, I do notice that my phone lags when waking up occasionally. It kind of sounds like switching to interactive might help that.
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I'm still using SetCPU.
Yes I do knock it down that far, my phone heats up like crazy while I'm at school (terrible signal) and once it reaches 100F I could use the phone as a hand warmer and if I take off the back I can smell burning plastic. Maybe thats normal for the Eris, but I use it just as a precautionary measure.
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You probably have your reasons, but when you're at school, why don't you put it in Airplane mode and just take it off it between classes to check emails and such? Save your battery and the heat of your Eris a bunch.
Or do you and you just use the temperature profile as a fallback in case you forget to put it back in Airplane mode?
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You probably have your reasons, but when you're at school, why don't you put it in Airplane mode and just take it off it between classes to check emails and such? Save your battery and the heat of your Eris a bunch.
Or do you and you just use the temperature profile as a fallback in case you forget to put it back in Airplane mode?
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You are quite correct sir. That and my I bump my phone occasionally, and I think two days ago it turned on and I didn't notice, and when I checked it I noticed over the course of about 2-3 hours it lost 14% and was at around 95ish F.
I do keep it in Airplane Mode when I'm not using it (and it's off as well), but the profile is pretty much just a precautionary measure.
I was wondering what some SetCPU profile suggestions are for the Atrix? Right now all I have is a screen off profile. It has like 608 max and 216 min.
Ideally I would want to set the min a little lower, but it doesn't seem that I can?? It's also kind of annoying that each value can only be set to certain increments, like it jumps from 608 to 450 something or 760 something the other way.
Any thoughts on some other profiles I would maybe want to set?
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I was wondering what some SetCPU profile suggestions are for the Atrix? Right now all I have is a screen off profile. It has like 608 max and 216 min.
Ideally I would want to set the min a little lower, but it doesn't seem that I can?? It's also kind of annoying that each value can only be set to certain increments, like it jumps from 608 to 450 something or 760 something the other way.
Any thoughts on some other profiles I would maybe want to set?
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screen on 1000/216
screen off 216/216
stevendeb25 said:
screen on 1000/216
screen off 216/216
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That screen off max seems sorta low. You haven't experienced any wake up lag or anything while using that?
out of all honesty i used setCPU for a while and didnt notice any difference other than wake lag on my LWP. The phone is already excellent at managing the processor loads on its own. To me it was Just another app using up my battery. I will def use it once OCing is possible. It didnt really seem to have any benefits IMO. I have great battery life without it and thats with chainfire, sdspeed increase, Titanium, and a few others running unrestricted by my task manager. Once again just my opinion.
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That screen off max seems sorta low. You haven't experienced any wake up lag or anything while using that?
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nope no lag here
I see, I could probably get away with setting it even lower.
Dirtburgler, yeah that's mostly why I've only set one profile so far because I haven't really noticed a super high need for anything else lol. I did notice that, in spare parts, my runtime greatly exceeded screen on time on average, so I wanted to make sure to limit the CPU while it was off and it actually has worked very well. I'm only about 1-3% higher with runtime now, even with heavy usage!
I was curious... does SetCpu work for this phone like Milestone Overclock? What's the difference, aside from SetCPU having more options?
They are both free (well SetCPU only free for XDA), but everyone uses milestone OC here and I'm wondering if there's a reason for that.
syrenz said:
I was curious... does SetCpu work for this phone like Milestone Overclock? What's the difference, aside from SetCPU having more options?
They are both free (well SetCPU only free for XDA), but everyone uses milestone OC here and I'm wondering if there's a reason for that.
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There is difference between two applications. Milestone overclock actually overclocks the processor while setcpu doesn't. Setcpu just changes clock frequency of CPU ranging from minimum to maximum. It allows you to make user profiles depending on which frequency of processor will be controlled. It actually helps battery last battery longer. BTW setcpu is paid application
SetCPU is used for setting CPU parameters. Like the range of mhz your CPU works at. Also setting profiles (CPU mhz when the phone is charging, reach temperature, battery lower than... etc.). But it cannot be used for overcharging, that's why we use Milestone overclock...
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jackfrost3821 said:
There is difference between two applications. Milestone overclock actually overclocks the processor while setcpu doesn't. Setcpu just changes clock frequency of CPU ranging from minimum to maximum. It allows you to make user profiles depending on which frequency of processor will be controlled. It actually helps battery last battery longer. BTW setcpu is paid application
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Setcpu is free for XDA members bud, find it here
how should i adjust my advanced settings? im overclocked at 850mhz
LibertyMonger said:
Setcpu is free for XDA members bud, find it here
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Thank you I wasn't knowing it is free for xda members!
I personally think Setcpu creates glitches in phone routine. Say when I play music and turn off the display, after I turn it on it pauses music a bit. I uninstalled it, problem seems to be no more. Still I can't confirm if the bug was created because of setcpu plus the battery life is not increased exponentially with setcpu.
Thanks for the answers
jackfrost3821 said:
I personally think Setcpu creates glitches in phone routine. Say when I play music and turn off the display, after I turn it on it pauses music a bit. I uninstalled it, problem seems to be no more. Still I can't confirm if the bug was created because of setcpu plus the battery life is not increased exponentially with setcpu.
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I think I agree, lol. Android has it's own built in "Setcpu" it's supposed to do a good job on it's own. I have been using it lately and not really sure it is much of an advantage. I'm gonna go a few days without I think and see. Same with battery calibration, I use 3 backup batteries so if it works it really can't work properly when switching batteries but they all always seem calibrated the same whether I use it or not.
SetCPU works with msoc but it is more of a parameter setting app. Imagine if you were oc to 1200 all the time. That would be foolish bc your processor would burn up that is to say if you battery stayed charged long enough to do it. Im set at 1100/74 but I don't need it like that all the time. When my screen is off, why do I need it that high. I do bc I listen to alot of online media, MLB, Jango, Pandora, and if the screen is on it makes temp go up. I do, you may not need it that high. SetCPU allows me to set that parameter to adjust the CPU down and underclock it if I need to. Also if my battery is too hot, I don't need it to be fast as lightning compounding heat, so I set it for a specific temp and it underclocks when I hit it. Here is a screen shots to show my settings.
LibertyMonger said:
I think I agree, lol. Android has it's own built in "Setcpu" it's supposed to do a good job on it's own. I have been using it lately and not really sure it is much of an advantage. I'm gonna go a few days without I think and see. Same with battery calibration, I use 3 backup batteries so if it works it really can't work properly when switching batteries but they all always seem calibrated the same whether I use it or not.
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Exactly that is what I've tried, uninstalled SetCPU to see the battery performance. It was really unnoticeable the battery drain with and without Setcpu. I use Autokill Memory Optimizer which seems to be providing good results as well as performance enhancement.
Nah that pause has nothing to do with setcpu. I get that all the time.
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exist2resist said:
Nah that pause has nothing to do with setcpu. I get that all the time.
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Yes it has to do with SetCPU if your minimum frequency is less. In screen lock profile select min frequency to 550Mhz instead of 250Mhz. Music won't pause while waking up your device. It works!
jackfrost3821 said:
Yes it has to do with SetCPU if your minimum frequency is less. In screen lock profile select min frequency to 550Mhz instead of 250Mhz. Music won't pause while waking up your device. It works!
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I guess you are correct.
But currently I removed the SetCPU. And I see much better performance now. I was min at 250MHz. Even the quadrant score is much better now.
Thanks for your insight
I remove setcpu and do a comparison too. I'm using CM 7.1.0 of fjfalcon and it lasts 1.5-2 days with minimal usage on setcpu. Now let's see if it's barely unnoticable.
but I think set cpu to 250mhz during the night when you don't use your phone may prolong battery life.
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SetCPU works with msoc but it is more of a parameter setting app. Imagine if you were oc to 1200 all the time. That would be foolish bc your processor would burn up that is to say if you battery stayed charged long enough to do it. Im set at 1100/74 but I don't need it like that all the time. When my screen is off, why do I need it that high. I do bc I listen to alot of online media, MLB, Jango, Pandora, and if the screen is on it makes temp go up. I do, you may not need it that high. SetCPU allows me to set that parameter to adjust the CPU down and underclock it if I need to. Also if my battery is too hot, I don't need it to be fast as lightning compounding heat, so I set it for a specific temp and it underclocks when I hit it. Here is a screen shots to show my settings.
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Dude! with those settings what is your battery life like?
my minimum is at 125mhz and max at 250mhz (when screen off) and I lose 30% over night! and it barely lasts 8hours D:
what ROM are you on?
Do you guys know how the smartass governor works?