It just dawned on me now that I am using Launcher Pro that when I long press, I no longer get the option to add a Samsung Widget to my home screen.
Any way around this?
... other than just going back to stock launcher ?
Nope. The Samsung widgets are part of TouchWiz.
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Nope. The Samsung widgets are part of TouchWiz.
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So are many other elements of the device (notification panel, different contacts app, etc etc etc). Using another launcher app does not disable Touchwiz as a whole, its just a new launcher. The widgets are still <i>there</i> I'm just not able to get to them right now, so I'm hoping maybe someone is able to yank the APK or something so we're able to use them in non-default launchers.
They were written to be recognized and used by the Touchwiz launcher, they're not compatible with the ASOP launcher which is why they won't show up with other launchers. HTC Sense widgets have the same issue, and aside from completely rebuilding them, they haven't really found a way around it.
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So are many other elements of the device (notification panel, different contacts app, etc etc etc). Using another launcher app does not disable Touchwiz as a whole, its just a new launcher. The widgets are still <i>there</i> I'm just not able to get to them right now, so I'm hoping maybe someone is able to yank the APK or something so we're able to use them in non-default launchers.
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um, no they're not. As I am using the LauncherPro Beta right now. The notification panel is stock, the contact is stock everything is stock except the dock bar at the bottom, which is different and better and the drawer which Is 3D!!! I love it.
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um, no they're not. As I am using the LauncherPro Beta right now. The notification panel is stock, the contact is stock everything is stock except the dock bar at the bottom, which is different and better and the drawer which Is 3D!!! I love it.
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That is exactly what I was saying.
Using a different launcher (i.e. LaunderPro) does not "disable TouchWiz" and therefore you should still be able to use the TouchWiz widgets. Everything else is still there and TouchWiz is most definitely still there, running, etc... changing the Launcher is not disabling TouchWiz.
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That is exactly what I was saying.
Using a different launcher (i.e. LaunderPro) does not "disable TouchWiz" and therefore you should still be able to use the TouchWiz widgets. Everything else is still there and TouchWiz is most definitely still there, running, etc... changing the Launcher is not disabling TouchWiz.
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it does disable touchwiz. touchwiz is the launcher app. so when your not in touchwiz, you don't have it.
just like unless your on the sense home, you don't get the sense widgets.
the touchwiz widgets require the touchwiz launcher.
don't bother asking or repeating again because there is simply no way to make it work short of rebuilding the entire app as has been said.
Touchwiz and the touchwiz launcher are two different things.
You cannot "disable touchwiz" without flashing a custom rom. It IS the modified OS.
You are right that the widgets are built into the twlauncher apk, so you can't use them in any other launcher.
Let's be sure we aren't confusing touchwiz with twlauncher...
touchwiz is a skin on top of the android os just like sense is.......you disable the touchwiz launcher then everything associated with touchwiz is disabled only giving access to basic android widgets.
Oh lawrdy, the fighting...
When I was using launcher pro I couldn't use samsung widgets, but the apps were unaffected.. So just disabling touchwiz launcher disables the widgets (or makes them harder to use at least) but the apps with the phone (including the notification bar) keep going...
So even if you just disable the launcher, you lose the widgets (unless they are just hiding because the samsung widget button was gone and they weren't in my regular widget are either)
im no dev here and my coding knowledge is minimal so sorry if i sound stupid saying this, but if the twlauncher is integrated to the framework, couldnt someone use a modify a launcher replacement by kanging some code from the twlauncher so the launcher replacement utilizes the framework or is it much more complicated than that?
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im no dev here and my coding knowledge is minimal so sorry if i sound stupid saying this, but if the twlauncher is integrated to the framework, couldnt someone use a modify a launcher replacement by kanging some code from the twlauncher so the launcher replacement utilizes the framework or is it much more complicated than that?
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If I'm understanding you correctly then yes it is that simple, but figuring out how to do that is not simple without the code...
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Okay ladies Ill explain all lol, disabling the touchwiz launcher does in no way effect the widgets but you cannot use them in other launchers because they are not programmed to recognize them touchwiz itself is the custom framework that samsung has created for this phone, so if a dev enabled it you could use them in any launcher as long as the system/framework/twframework.jar and twframework-res.apk are there along with some key files in the sytem/lib folder to associate them to the system so really the launcher is nothing but a pretty blind over the window if you will and in no way stops you from using the widgets other than the other launchers are not programmed to look for them.
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I had ordered this without ever even giving touchwiz a thought. Figured the phone would show up, I would play with it about 5 minutes, install new launcher, never look at touch wiz again. After I ordered it I downloaded the user manual and did some reading and it appears that there is some interesting and useful work here that without having the phone I think I like. Watching videos to see if I could see some of the stuff in action seemed to me to confirm that there is some good stuff there.
My question is how are you liking touchwiz? Not the phone, the phone with touchwiz. I Have encountered an older version and was left heavily underwhelmed. Please be specific, I like this, I hate that, and give a reason. If its just because that works fine but have a reason.
Remember guys this is mostly about opinion and little about fact. Leave folks be with theirs and vice versa.
edit.... Also please add in your predilections toward flashing roms, or not, as it were. An opinion from a daily flasher is much different than one from someone who never flashes and runs the stock rom.
I thought I'd hate it but I'm actually really liking it! Some features I love:
- The lockscreen is great and you get little tabs you can slide when you get a text or missed call.
- You can reject a call with a text message (So handy)
- Resizable widgets
- Customiseable dock
- Hold down 'Menu' for search in apps
- Quick settings in the notification tray
- Movable homescreens
- Customisable app tray
and more Besides you could always replace it with another launcher and I'm sure custom ROMs are on the way.
I changed it within seconds to launcher pro. However the drawer in launcher pro isnt smooth at all, im actually thinking of changing back.
rocketpaul said:
I changed it within seconds to launcher pro. However the drawer in launcher pro isnt smooth at all, im actually thinking of changing back.
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Try Go Launcher EX
It is faster than Launcher Pro
I have a lot of time flashing roms and all that fun stuff so I have an idea about the possibilities going that route. Going to edit the op in regards to people adding their experience and preferences as far as flashing roms and such go. Thanks for your input. As a question Im on a custom rom now and the widets are all resizable. Are you talking about the touchwiz widgets then?
Another question would be can you access some or all of the touchwiz widgets from another launcher or do you give them up?
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Another question would be can you access some or all of the touchwiz widgets from another launcher or do you give them up?
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If you go use a third party launcher, you usually lose access to manufacturer widgets, since they work in a slightly different way from plain stock ones...
But if you go Launcher Pro Plus (it's a couple of dollars for the plus version) you get more "custom" widgets like that in return I guess it just depends what look you are going for.
So you have the handset and can confirm they are toast? Figured they would be but I haven't done touchwiz yet.
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So you have the handset and can confirm they are toast? Figured they would be but I haven't done touchwiz yet.
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Nope, hence why I say "usually". I've been in this business for a while, but not got the SGS II yet.
I have to admit that I like Touchwiz. On SGS, I dont have a SGS2 yet. In my opinion, Samsung Glass lockscreen is a way better than the Android stock lockscreen.
At the moment I'm in love with Zeam laucher but I always come back to Touchwiz from time to time. Launcher Pro and ADW have always left me cold.
Did more reading, I see that you can change the fonts system wide. Does this carry over to a new launcher or do you lose that? Pretty nifty feature.
In my personal opinion, touchwiz 3 was dire. But after using my Galaxy S II for a few days touchwiz 4 has come a long way. I'm sticking with Touchwiz for now
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I've been playing with the demo models at the office solidly for the past 2 days, and as a Sense users for the past 2 years, I really don't like Touchwiz even in it's newest incarnation.
Probably more down to being used to how everything works in Sense though, I don't like change
Touchwiz 4 is a huge improvement over 3 in my opinion. Using it on both my SGS and SGS2 now. The new calendar widgets on the SGS2 are awesome as well Touchwiz 4 can also put folders in the applications menu now
Semi-regular flasher (ooer) - would generally flash a new rom every couple of months. Been with Android since the G1 so have a pretty good idea of what's possible.
Things you KEEP going to another launcher:
Lockscreen
Dialler (reject call with text etc)
Holding down Menu to search
Settings toggles in the notification bar
You can resize widgets with LauncherPro Plus
Things you might LOSE
Movable homescreens (most launchers do this, but not with the motion sensing twist action like touchwiz)
Customisable app tray (again, most launchers do this)
Resizable widgets (possible with LauncherPro Plus)
Customisable dock (most launchers do this)
Overall, I don't miss the touchwiz launcher, but I like some of the other features. Looks like the Samsung widgets are standard and work in other launchers too - just added Mini Paper, Ap Mobile, and Yahoo! Finance, and they seem fine.
krabman - I've changed my system font to Helvetica S (Settings -> Display -> Screen Display -> Font) and in general it looks great! Carries over to most apps too. The only downside is that it's slightly wider, so you get some buttons wrapping For example, the password "Remember / Not Now" dialog has one, I forget which . . .
Overall, ditch the launcher (I like LauncherPro, smooth for me) but enjoy the other aspects
TW4 is not as bad as many are saying. its still not nearly as good as SENSE 2.x. and I wont even attempt to compare it to the new 3.0 version. I sure hope someone port it.
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Touchwiz 4 is a huge improvement over 3 in my opinion. Using it on both my SGS and SGS2 now. The new calendar widgets on the SGS2 are awesome as well Touchwiz 4 can also put folders in the applications menu now
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Same here, playing with both the SGS and SGS2 and yes it is an improvement for sure, but I am still not liking the iphonish looks.
DJGibbon said:
Things you KEEP going to another launcher:
Lockscreen
Dialler (reject call with text etc)
Holding down Menu to search
Settings toggles in the notification bar
You can resize widgets with LauncherPro Plus
Things you might LOSE
Movable homescreens (most launchers do this, but not with the motion sensing twist action like touchwiz)
Customisable app tray (again, most launchers do this)
Resizable widgets (possible with LauncherPro Plus)
Customisable dock (most launchers do this)
Overall, I don't miss the touchwiz launcher, but I like some of the other features. Looks like the Samsung widgets are standard and work in other launchers too - just added Mini Paper, Ap Mobile, and Yahoo! Finance, and they seem fine.
Overall, ditch the launcher (I like LauncherPro, smooth for me) but enjoy the other aspects
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You pretty much mentioned what I was about to! Using launcherpro plus with widgetsoid and pure calendar widget. I have to say that launcherpro work a bit smoother on the original SGS for be, but with the upcomming update that should be fixed.
Overall, combining the best of what I had on my SGS before, with the new functions from touchwiz 4!
Hi there
i'd like to know how to remove a single widget from the widget list
the fact is that i need its app, but it has soooo many widgets and i only need one of them
how can i remove the only ones that i don't need?
ps i know that many apps allow to disable the widgets that you don't want, but unfortunately this isn't the case
I don't know of a way to remove a widget, without removing the associated app. There may be an app to do it somewhere, but it's certainly not a standard thing.
Here's an alternative though...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780828
It groups widgets together, making the widget list a lot tidier.
well at least that's something
thank you!
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from that thread:
"* Doesn't work with HTC-Sense but should work with all "Stock-Based" Launchers like Launcher PRO, ADW, Zeam etc. pp."
i can sense incompatibility with the touchwiz XD
i will prolly try it later anyway and see what happens
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from that thread:
"* Doesn't work with HTC-Sense but should work with all "Stock-Based" Launchers like Launcher PRO, ADW, Zeam etc. pp."
i can sense incompatibility with the touchwiz XD
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Very good point - I use Go Launcher and it works fine with that. I just tried it with TouchWiz and it doesn't work.
aww such a shame
thanks so much for testing it!!
i'll keep that in mind in case i change the launcher someday
You don't mention what the name of the apk is ?
autostarts can remove widgets from list (Widget Updating)
Another thing you could always do (if it's not a system app) would be to move the app to the SD card. (I never tried that yet with my SGS2 since I'm still very far from filling the internal app spare, but I'm sure it will work.)
It's easy, quick and doesn't requires any additional software on the phone.
Is there a way to keep default launcher widgets accessible after installing, for example, ADW.Launcher Thanks in advance!
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Is there a way to keep default launcher widgets accessible after installing, for example, ADW.Launcher Thanks in advance!
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Unfortunately, if it's anything like Sense, then the stock Motorola widgets are only accessible when using the stock Motorola launcher. Basically, they are integrated into the Launcher and it's not possible to run them on a third-party solution.
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Unfortunately, if it's anything like Sense, then the stock Motorola widgets are only accessible when using the stock Motorola launcher. Basically, they are integrated into the Launcher and it's not possible to run them on a third-party solution.
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Dangit, thanks for the info!
I had no problems adding the moto widgets on ADW.
Same was in LPP on my Milestone 2
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I had no problems adding the moto widgets on ADW.
Same was in LPP on my Milestone 2
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uh when I load up ADW and long press the homescreen I only have ADW widget. For example, I want to use the Favorites Contacts , the one that when you swipe down on it, it reveals a 20 block screen of your contacts. Can you check for that widget please to see if you can add it as im not from ADW.
is it possible to add sony ericsson default music player widget with adw launcher by using rom manager or by using the root method..i tried installing the music player widget but wont show up when i tried to add the widget in adw launcher..is there any solution at all ?
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uh when I load up ADW and long press the homescreen I only have ADW widget. For example, I want to use the Favorites Contacts , the one that when you swipe down on it, it reveals a 20 block screen of your contacts. Can you check for that widget please to see if you can add it as im not from ADW.
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Favorite Contacts is only available with the stock launcher, I believe.
Almost all of the stock widgets do work with third party launchers. Interestingly, they look like they did in earlier versions of Blur, without the 'chrome' of the Gingerbread BlurHome (the dark blue with gaudy glow animation).
The exception is the favourite contacts widget, which 'works' in the sense that you can place the widget on a screen, but it's invisible.
Genuine question here - aside from the scrolling email widgets and the favourite contacts widget (which is bloated) the Blur widgets are the worst I have ever used on any variety of Android. Half of them don't even launch anything when tapped. Sense, Touchwiz, Timescape/Mediascape, every OEM skin with its own widget set has been more functional than this, even if it's not my cup of tea.
What gives with MotoBlur, and what do people see in it? I swear Moto know it's awful, why else would they automatically set the first third party launcher you install as default?
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Favorite Contacts is only available with the stock launcher, I believe.
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I do not know where yo ugot that information, but it is UNTRUE.
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I do not know where yo ugot that information, but it is UNTRUE.
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I use Go launcher and when I place the favorites widget on the homescreen nothing appears. After which I can then click/hold that same blank space and the options appear to modify or delete it. I've not seen anyway to place any stock widgets while using another launcher.
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I do not know where yo ugot that information, but it is UNTRUE.
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And what other launchers does it work in, pray tell?
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It is available. The fact that those launchers are unable to handle it is another thing. Same way the stock launher does not work with 52.
Just got this thing and it has me wondering are the wallpapers not scrollable? Like the window does not let me resize them at all? Or am I missing something?
Missing something like say the 4 other posts on this?
It does not scroll. You can fix it by rooting and
A. Fix landscape selection by using the gallery.apk from the international note
B. Fix scrolling by editing some code
C. Fix both and more by using Dagr8's rom
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I wondered the same thing after getting my Note, and found that it's probably something with the Sense UI that's not allowing it to scroll.
I downloaded a few Launchers, and found that the "GO Launcher" app allows scrolling to happen (there's an option for it) - this also doesn't require a root of the device as it's just an app. It is a launcher, so it'll change the look/feel of your UI, but if you really like the stock Sense UI, you can configure the GO Launcher to get pretty close looking to stock.
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I wondered the same thing after getting my Note, and found that it's probably something with the Sense UI that's not allowing it to scroll.
I downloaded a few Launchers, and found that the "GO Launcher" app allows scrolling to happen (there's an option for it) - this also doesn't require a root of the device as it's just an app. It is a launcher, so it'll change the look/feel of your UI, but if you really like the stock Sense UI, you can configure the GO Launcher to get pretty close looking to stock.
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Touchwiz UI, not Sense...sorry about that.
Power2112 said:
I wondered the same thing after getting my Note, and found that it's probably something with the Sense UI that's not allowing it to scroll.
I downloaded a few Launchers, and found that the "GO Launcher" app allows scrolling to happen (there's an option for it) - this also doesn't require a root of the device as it's just an app. It is a launcher, so it'll change the look/feel of your UI, but if you really like the stock Sense UI, you can configure the GO Launcher to get pretty close looking to stock.
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And by Sense, you mean Touchwiz.
EDIT: ha, you already caught yourself.
The stock TW launcher does not allow for scrolling wallpaper. 3rd party launchers, in many cases, do allow for it.
Even if you install a 3rd party launcher, unless you change the gallery app, you can't set a landscape wallpaper. The stock gallery app forces portrait only.
for Stock users who are looking to get the scrolling back without rooting and keep TW
i have noticed that an APP called PicSpeed lets you fix this.
choose the wallpaper in GALLERY and when asked to set it with pick PicSpeed and the fullscreen option on the right will fit it to the full Notes screen without distortion and should let it scroll though now.
i have not been stock for a while but if i remember corretly this was how i got mine to scroll and look sharp without the root and launcher fix.
hope it helps others
[Question] would users be interstead in an app that installs themes without a launcher?
I dont know why but i preffer not having a launcher on my phone. I just want an app that can install different icons, wallpaper and a couple of widgets that together will be a theme.
Am i alone?
I am afraid we are having some sort of nomenclature issue here. You see, you (normally) cannot use the phone without a launcher. The wallpaper, the icons and the widgets might not come from the launcher, but the only way in which you will be able to use them is inside a launcher. Trying to use an android phone without the launcher is like using windows without Explorer.
I suppose that you can still launch the apps within Google search, but the features you were describing (wallpaper, widgets, icons) are part of the launcher.
Instead of a launcher, are you perhaps thinking of the app drawer instead? If so, miui home launcher does not have an app drawer.
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I think he meant without installing a 3rd party launcher (ie, with the stock launcher).
I dunno, i think some people might find an app like that useful, i don't. I prefer mixing stuff from different themes rather than have a specific wallpaper, icons and widgets.
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I think he meant without installing a 3rd party launcher (ie, with the stock launcher).
I dunno, i think some people might find an app like that useful, i don't. I prefer mixing stuff from different themes rather than have a specific wallpaper, icons and widgets.
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yes, sorry that i was not understood. i ment without a third party launcher.