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I hear echos...my friends say they hear echos...
I'm on the new Cingular rom and I can get mine to work with MSVC 1.6 using the 09f tweak...(Thanks guys!)
Post your reviews of the Jawbone with the 8525. I'd really like to hear your experiences.
I'm taking the jawbone back tomorrow. I don't like the fit or the tinny sound or the weight. For the money I think it sucks.
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i was thinking of getting this one too. what do you mean by the tinny sound?
I love mine. I think the ear piece could be a bit better but the sound quality is perfect. No tinny for me. I had a Nexxum Hated it never worked with the tytn. Sorry to hear it guys.
Tinny=sounds like the other party is talking through a tin can. Hopefully it was just mine but for 119 bucks I expect quality. Also it is to heavy and big compared to the jx10 and the discovery 655.
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I love mine. I think the ear piece could be a bit better but the sound quality is perfect. No tinny for me. I had a Nexxum Hated it never worked with the tytn. Sorry to hear it guys.
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I have really small ears. I thought I needed the smallest inner ear piece. I ended up dropping it twice on Friday. I did some refitting and actually I ended up using the bigger ear piece shaped like a tear drop with the curve. That one fits much better and feels more stable.
I can almost wear it without the earloop. For me the earloop does nothing really now.
I don't get that tinny sound everyone is talking about. I have noticed though I can speak in a more normal or lower voice and people hear me just fine. THAT I LOVE!
I think the packaging is where the cost went though. I admire their take on BT headsets. They really "raised the bar" but I can't wait to see their next version.
per my review here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291926&page=3
I have had zero trouble and still love my jawbone.
But BT are kind of like cars... everyone likes a different one.
Jawbone works flawlessly!
I have had the Jawbone for over a month now. I have had several bluetooth headsets from just about every manufacturer, the noise reduction on this headset is unmatched. It sometimes takes a few seconds for the Jawbone to key in and block the outside noise, but once it does the sound is absolutely spectacular. Take the time and find the right combination of adapters to fit your ear size and I truely believe you will not be satisfied with another bluetooth headset.
I just got one and after a driving test at 50MPH with the window 1/2 down talking with a co-worker I'm sold. He told me that it was dead silent and was so impressed that he's on his way to find one tonight. I found the audio, slightly processed, maybe slight compression which improved my perception of voice quality, not unpleasent at all. My co-worker who is also an engineer, said that my audio was very clear and the car noise was virtually gone.
Headsets fit and function is very personal. I've had the Moto 850, 700 and they are OK, just not good at background noise. Jabra was comfy, but others complained of background noise and echo. Sony's 835 strange cyclic noise in my ear, plus it fell out too easily, 435 Feels good on me, others say slight echo.
The Jawbone has 4 ear loops, and about 6 ear pieces. Using a mirror I got a perfect fit, very comfy for me as I quickly forget that it's even there. The noise cancelling is so good, others kept saying "are you still there?" till they got used to the dead silence when I'm not speaking.
I tried the vacuume running next to me test, and it's all true, the noise cancelling is simply the best there is so far.
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I hear echos...my friends say they hear echos...
I'm on the new Cingular rom and I can get mine to work with MSVC 1.6 using the 09f tweak...(Thanks guys!)
Post your reviews of the Jawbone with the 8525. I'd really like to hear your experiences.
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I get echos also...but I think it is the network and not the headset. I was also getting echos with my 8125 and they usually happen when I'm in the same area.
I did have an Ah-HA moment with my Jawbone. I went to a noisey eatery Five Guys burgers and I could barely hear myself think yet the person on the phone said they heard me just fine. I'm gonna test it on the way home today with the sun roof back and the window down. IF it is all good, then I'm sold
Oh and the Jawbone works great with the MSVC 1.6 and 09f fix. Without voice command it's just a regular old pda.
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Help with 09f tweak
You guys mention a '09f' fix or tweak. I've looked around for more information on this but can't seem to find anything.
I'm sorry if it's obvious, but my searching hasn't uncovered anything...
Could someone point me to the source / more information about this 09f fix?
Thanks,
Rob
Do a search for Microsoft Voice Command v1.6 in Hermes Upgrading, it's a long thread. I read thru it and it gives tips on getting voice command to work with the Hermes devices. The main contributer to the thread has created a patch file to get MSVC to work better and it's up to .09f currently. Typical Microsoft product support, slow to fix bugs.
Positive experiences w/Jawbone
I have used mine for the last 3 weeks now, and I am still VERY happy with it. The noise cancellation is not perfect, but its head and shoulders above anything else I have been able to find and try. Getting the right fit is a lot of trial and error, and also makes a significant difference in how well the noise cancellation works in use. I am using the VC v1.6 and .9f fix and all works well for me.
I love my Jawbone
I have had the Jawbone for a couple of months now. In fact, I received mine a week after they came out. I have used it on a Treo 700w with Verizon, a Blackberry Pearl with Cingular, and now a Cingular 8525. I have never experienced any issues what so ever, and have had nothing but positive results. My co-worker bought one when I did and feels exactly the same. We couldn't be happier with our purchases.
Thought I would provide an update and give some insight.
Feedback. Had my Jawbone for few months and has perform perfectly. Matter of fact, I used it several times in Data Centers and the person on the other end hardly hears the server/router backgroud noise.
Insight. I buddy of mine pointed me to the softgel ear pieces from Verizon and this has helped tremendously on the ear. For 3$ bucks go to Verizon and purchase the Mini Gels ear replacements.
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I'm taking the jawbone back tomorrow. I don't like the fit or the tinny sound or the weight. For the money I think it sucks.
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I also took mine back after 3 days. The fit was HORRIBLE .. and yes, I tried all the combinations of pieces.
The incoming sound was tinny, but at the highest volume, it was loud (which i did like).
My biggest complaint, for me anyway, was the noise reduction which was non-existent. I tested it several times with a variety of different background noises and each and every time, background noise could still be heard plain as day .. even after several minutes of waiting for it to kick in (and yes the noise filter was active (white light not red)). I tried adjusting it to several places on my face hoping to get better contact between the "nipple" and my cheek, but nothing made it work.
I really wanted to like it, but for me, the $119 was money wasted as i was much more happy with my Motorola HS850.
Jawbone Vs. Everything Else
I just got the j.b and the thing is people dont say get off your bluetooth! I called everyone that was starting to complained about my current bluetooth and they all sayd i sounded fine. Seems the tinny sound (tin can) after you use it for awhile and it muffles out background noise. Before that I worked for and Independent agent and had the ability to try almost every bluetooth out there. The jabra bt250 and the 500 worked the best for me in fit. It seems though that the older my jabra 500 got the less it ws able to muffle background noise. But the way the Jawbone drowns out the background noise (wind, radio, other people) is so far more superior than anything else. The only thing is the fit. If it fit like my jabra the thing would be TITS!!!
I just got my silver Jawbone today.
The fit isnt that good yet and I've tried all the combinations of earpieces/earbuds. I think I can make it work though.
The talk button is anoying to push. I have to press the thing into my face to activate the button..
The noise cancelation works AMAZINGLY well... so props to them on that. The guy who said it doesn't work must have had a broken device or didnt understand how to turn it on. The buttons aren't "easy" to figure out but they're simple enough that after a couple tries you get it.
Voice quality is really good but it does sound kind of like they're a little far away.
This is all from using it for an hour so far.
Update: 10 minutes later.. I found and used the large round earbud and now this thing fits very very well into my ear.
After messing with it since this post it's configured about perfect now. When i first synced it to my 8525 i only heard static. i had to reset 8525 and then it worked properly.
So right now all is well. Already is better than the **** motorolas I've tried.
Update: Buttons are still anoying.
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Hi all,
I have had my Jawbone for a while now. I drive a 86 CJ7 with no top. This is the only headset that anyone can hear me on while driving down the freeway.
The only drawback that I have encountered is the fit. Why couldn't they just take a hint from Jabra with thier earbuds. Everyone can hear me now and I can't hear anyone becuase it does not block out all the noise that I hear.
A few of you on here have said that you used a different type of ear bud. I am wide open to suggestions. I looked at the verizon website. Still looking for a mminigel earbud, but since I don't know what headset they were designed for makes it a little harder.
Please let me know what earbuds you guys are using with the Jawbone.
Thanks
Joe
Coming from the d1. My thunderbolt sounds like crap when in my pocket and driving in my car I can't hear most of the time. Volume up and changed tones and still not happy for such a big speaker. So any volume hacks?
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Coming from the d1. My thunderbolt sounds like crap when in my pocket and driving in my car I can't hear most of the time. Volume up and changed tones and still not happy for such a big speaker. So any volume hacks?
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kinda surprises me, this phone is a good deal louder than my evo was with volume hacks. But I don't think we'll see any yet. Probably not until the kernal source code is released anyway.
*EDIT* figuired I'd mention that you posted in the wrong section. Should be in general.
Thinkin about drillin' some holes in the kickstand.
Or you can get a ROM that has the DSP Manager and see if you can't tweak the sound. I don't know if it works with ringing/verifications though.
Perhaps taking it out of your pocket will not dampen the sound
Damn your right about wrong sections. Sorry can the mods move it please thank you...but I hate the speaker sounding like crap the kick stand hurts it more I think.... I can hear my d1 in club..well thanks for your post
put it on vibrate also, so when in your pocket you will feel the rumble.
I agree with the volume issue, coming from a D1 myself. The other issue that I find is that when I plug it in my car stereo, via the headphone jack, the volume is much lower than the D1, so I end up with a fair amount of hiss, due to having to turn the volume up on the stereo.
The kickstand could use a couple holes in it. I really wish that they had switched the side that it opens on, that way we could charge it while using the kickstand.
I have the same problem, coming for Droid1. It's a shame how highly advertised the speaker on the TB is, but it sounds so much worse than my old Droid.
I knew some guys who were audio engineers for Sony-Ericsson, and they said that the biggest hurdle they face in designing speakers for phones is how thin the phones are. Good sound needs depth to the speakers, so it makes no sense to me why a phone like the D1 can have a speaker in a space that is a little more than half of the TB, and sound so much louder and better than the TB.
Wonder if you have a bad unit. I carry mine in my shirt pocket all day and I keep turning the volume down because it is so loud.
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I swear mine is so loud I've never been happier. I had mine in my gym bag downstairs yesterday and I could still clearly hear the ringer at the other end of the house. I'm ALWAYS turning down the external speaker when using turn by turn or speaker phone. I mean this thing is LOUD Best speaker I've ever had in a phone.
I'd consider going to the store and seeing if the units there are louder to your ear, you may have defective units.
The speaker is fantastic if the kickstand isn't in the way. Otherwise the highs are muffled and overall volume is lower than it normally would be without a LARGE CHUNK OF METAL COVERING IT.
I do have a slight hearing deficit. I was on the original Moto Droid and then upgraded to the thunderbolt. I was subject to using the Old Spice jingle because it was loud so I could hear it from across the room or on my nightstand as I slept. I downloaded the same jingle and it just doesnt work. I really have to listen to it to make it out.
I'm glad its not just me. But still there has got to be something.
I noticed the same thing on the iPhone. Both phones have their speakers on the bottom of the phone. What does this mean? When you hold the phone in landscape to play games and grip it in gaming grip, the base of your forefinger (first finger) covers the speakers and muffles the sound. I noticed this a lot playing games on my old iPhone. Speaker should be on the back ideally or on the sides.
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I noticed the same thing on the iPhone. Both phones have their speakers on the bottom of the phone. What does this mean? When you hold the phone in landscape to play games and grip it in gaming grip, the base of your forefinger (first finger) covers the speakers and muffles the sound. I noticed this a lot playing games on my old iPhone. Speaker should be on the back ideally or on the sides.
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I haven't seen one up close yet, but I thought the power plug was on the bottom now. So, would that be in addition to the speakers on the bottom?? or did they move them elsewhere?
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Thank you for your wonderful useful tip. So I am only allowed to play a game with sound when I plug in headphones. Great practical advice from you! I like to see you hold the phone with the headphone plug digging into your finger too! I know because I made a mockup of the phone and held it in gaming grip.
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I haven't seen one up close yet, but I thought the power plug was on the bottom now. So, would that be in addition to the speakers on the bottom?? or did they move them elsewhere?
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The speakers are on the bottom of the phone on either side of the USB port.
It would be more practical on the back but in terms of design it looks uglier. That's why they put the speakers on the bottom. My Atrix has its speaker on the back and it is much better than when I had an iPhone.
Speakers never bothered me on the iphone 4s when I had it for 6 months so I don't see it as a design flaw here. I am terribly concerned about the size and weight though. I know that the older Lumia phones are thicker but it definitely does not look that way. The 920 looks HUGE and that is saying a lot since I currently have a GS3.
I hope that my concerns disappear after handling or I might have to get an HTC 8x, which I really want to avoid after owning two crappy HTC One X phones.
Personally I kind of like the thickness. Gives it substance. I have held ultra thin phones and think that I'll break them. Speaker placement to me doesn't matter as long as they sound good. I just hope it's more water tolerable than the L900. Saw the torture test on c|net and it wasn't pretty.
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The speakers are on the bottom of the phone on either side of the USB port.
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Just on one side, the other side is the mic.
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Just on one side, the other side is the mic.
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No, tboy is right. They are on both sides.
The 800 also has the speaker on the bottom. It doesn't bother me since I have a light grip on it when I play.
Anyway I think there are always some problems with the placement of the speakers. There is just no perfect solution. If you put it on the back then some people will complain that the sound will get muffled while it's placed on it's back e.g on the bed or the couch. If you wanna put it on the side then you are forced to put one on both sides but most windows phones have 3-4 buttons on one side and adding a speaker would make it look really cluttered and one may end up being muffled again. Top has the same problem as bottom and front wouldn't just work because of aesthetics.
I personally think that the speakers on the bottom are the lesser evil compared to the other options.
The speaker is placed on the bottom is actually a good idea.
With the iPhone it was placed on the bottom due to the alarm, so that the sound would not get blocked.
I always place my phone (s3) upside down just to hear my alarm better , Since I'm a deep sleeper.
The Lumia 920 has no flaws. It was designed hand manufactured by the hand of god. Just kidding. Speaker placement is actually very fine with me. It's more of a preference issue that you brought up. Cnet's torture test of the 900 shows that it will die from water. That should be an indication of what to expect. Then again, it's the only phone I know that you can hammer a nail with and still be fine. The 920 is supposed to be even tougher. So if my phone drowns... At lest I'll still be able to fix thins around the house with it. LOL. Most indestructible phone design I've seen so far was the Galaxy S3. Survive a washer cycle with ease.
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Just got my One X+ today on AT&T. Does anyone notice how bad music sounds from the speaker when the phone is face up on a desk or flat surface?
Flipping it over produces a much cleaner sound, but it is unrealistic to have the phone screen down while playing music (screen can get easily scratched). What's the deal here - design flaw?
Also, music and videos from the default player play silently even with the volume up. Anyone else have this issue? I had to use another media player to get sound output - default htc sense music app did NOT output any volume on my mp3s!
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Just got my One X+ today on AT&T. Does anyone notice how bad music sounds from the speaker when the phone is face up on a desk or flat surface?
Flipping it over produces a much cleaner sound, but it is unrealistic to have the phone screen down while playing music (screen can get easily scratched). What's the deal here - design flaw?
Also, music and videos from the default player play silently even with the volume up. Anyone else have this issue? I had to use another media player to get sound output - default htc sense music app did NOT output any volume on my mp3s!
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The answer is incredibly simply, when it is face up the speaker is blocked/covered by the surface and moreover the sound reverberates off of that surface. What do you want speakers on the front?
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Just got my One X+ today on AT&T. Does anyone notice how bad music sounds from the speaker when the phone is face up on a desk or flat surface?
Flipping it over produces a much cleaner sound, but it is unrealistic to have the phone screen down while playing music (screen can get easily scratched). What's the deal here - design flaw?
Also, music and videos from the default player play silently even with the volume up. Anyone else have this issue? I had to use another media player to get sound output - default htc sense music app did NOT output any volume on my mp3s!
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I've seen cases out there with kickstands.. that might help you
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The answer is incredibly simply, when it is face up the speaker is blocked/covered by the surface and moreover the sound reverberates off of that surface. What do you want speakers on the front?
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Don't be silly, I know that. I am saying that many phones account for this in the design, and project the sound accordingly. This thing sounds like a tin can when face down. Do they expect us to lay the phone screen-down to play music?
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Don't be silly, I know that. I am saying that many phones account for this in the design, and project the sound accordingly. This thing sounds like a tin can when face down. Do they expect us to lay the phone screen-down to play music?
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I'd venture a guess that they don't assume people are going to play music through the tiny ass speaker on the back of a phone in general. I mean it's got BEATS!
This is one area that Apple got it right...stick the speakers on the side or bottom of the phone so they aren't covered when the phone is on a table/couch/lap whatever. It just makes sense. Even if they used the earpiece cut out and stuck two speakers in there (one for calls and one for tones) that would work. Anything but flat on the back.
Moral of the story...don't listen to music on the crappy built in speaker. It's going to sound bad regardless of how the phone is held/set down.
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I'd venture a guess that they don't assume people are going to play music through the tiny ass speaker on the back of a phone in general. I mean it's got BEATS!
This is one area that Apple got it right...stick the speakers on the side or bottom of the phone so they aren't covered when the phone is on a table/couch/lap whatever. It just makes sense. Even if they used the earpiece cut out and stuck two speakers in there (one for calls and one for tones) that would work. Anything but flat on the back.
Moral of the story...don't listen to music on the crappy built in speaker. It's going to sound bad regardless of how the phone is held/set down.
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Would never think to use a smartphone as a boom box, lol!
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This is one area that Apple got it right...stick the speakers on the side or bottom of the phone so they aren't covered when the phone is on a table/couch/lap whatever. It just makes sense. Even if they used the earpiece cut out and stuck two speakers in there (one for calls and one for tones) that would work. Anything but flat on the back.
Moral of the story...don't listen to music on the crappy built in speaker. It's going to sound bad regardless of how the phone is held/set down.
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To be fair, Nokia was placing the speakers on the side of the phone, in their N-Series smartphones, long before there was an iPhone. (I know you didn't mean it this way, but I get a little tired of Apple getting credit for so many things that they did not invent.)
Anyway, it's true that a lot of phones position the speaker on the back so that the curvature of the phone creates a small megaphone effect. My Nexus One is actually louder and clearer with the back (and therefore speaker) facing down. At least this works on hard surfaces.
I don't like to listen to music this way. But for podcasts and news I do it all the time. I'm planning to get a One X+, so I hope I can do the same. I suppose I don't really need to see the screen when I'm listening to something like that. But the scratching issue, with the phone sitting on the screen, seems real. (Despite claims to the contrary, Gorilla Glass 2 does scratch.)
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To be fair, Nokia was placing the speakers on the side of the phone, in their N-Series smartphones, long before there was an iPhone. (I know you didn't mean it this way, but I get a little tired of Apple getting credit for so many things that they did not invent.)
Anyway, it's true that a lot of phones position the speaker on the back so that the curvature of the phone creates a small megaphone effect. My Nexus One is actually louder and clearer with the back (and therefore speaker) facing down. At least this works on hard surfaces.
I don't like to listen to music this way. But for podcasts and news I do it all the time. I'm planning to get a One X+, so I hope I can do the same. I suppose I don't really need to see the screen when I'm listening to something like that. But the scratching issue, with the phone sitting on the screen, seems real. (Despite claims to the contrary, Gorilla Glass 2 does scratch.)
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I just see nit picking here. If listening to music or whatever u listen to and u CHOOSE to use the rear speaker, invest $10 in a screen protector and another $15 on a slim case that allows u to place the phone screen down and it will sit on the case, not the screen. Now if ur too OCD for a case then the screen protector will still he just fine. Again, why people aren't using Bluetooth headsets or even a Bluetooth device in one ear to listen to whatever they're listening too is beyond me. To be honest I think this device has a great rear speaker at high volumes and the whole idea behind a speaker is for SPEAKERPHONE, which it serves very well and crisp.
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I just see nit picking here. If listening to music or whatever u listen to and u CHOOSE to use the rear speaker, invest $10 in a screen protector and another $15 on a slim case that allows u to place the phone screen down and it will sit on the case, not the screen. Now if ur too OCD for a case then the screen protector will still he just fine. Again, why people aren't using Bluetooth headsets or even a Bluetooth device in one ear to listen to whatever they're listening too is beyond me. To be honest I think this device has a great rear speaker at high volumes and the whole idea behind a speaker is for SPEAKERPHONE, which it serves very well and crisp.
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Gee, thanks for the gratuitous critique of how I like to use my phone. What happened to if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all? I really don't need to be told, unsolicited, how to use my phone or what sort of case to get, if any. People have different prefences. And no one wants to be preached to by someone else about how their way is better.
Anyway, I find the built in speaker on phones (like my Nexus One) useful for some purposes other than speakerphone. I'm thinking about getting a One X+, so why shouldn't I be concerned about how well it's speaker phone works, comparatively? I don't want to take step backwards. It's a reasonable discussion to have, to learn more about the One X+.
Nah nothing wrong with the speaker sound, it doesn't sound tinny in any way and in fact all my previous smart phones in my Sig haven't sounded tinny either.
My Nokia brick before my n95 had what I would call a "tinny" speaker some 8/9 or so yrs ago.
The hox+ has a rear amp so try higher quality bitrate music, a 128kb to 256kb mp3 doesn't cut it any more for eg.
Also a gnex would be a step back in all categories as well as software imho to be sure, no need to squabble just do the side by side test before u buy.
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Everyone says it is very difficult to hear me on the speakerphone and that I sound distant or garbled. Anyone else experiencing issues with using the speakerphone? I have a silver One from launch day on AT&T.
I'm not sure if it is my phone or a common problem. A friend of mine has a black HTC one and his speakerphone sounds fine.
I have no issue when not using the speakerphone.
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I got the same complaint when new with the phone. I researched and it seems the noise cancelling mic on the back can make this occur when lying on a flat surface (face up, back on surface). I make sure I don't have it lying flat and speak into the mic on the bottom. Usually I hold it. Haven't had any complaints since. YMMV.
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Then there is this thread in the Sprint HTC One forum. Hmmmm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2262648
For some reason, I feel like my old Galaxy Note had better call quality than my One. I never had to repeat and raise my voice as much as I do now. I don't like the microphone placement because my left pinky tends to cover it when I take calls. It would've made more sense if the Mic was in the center since the charging port is more to the side.
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My issue was the ZAG Invisible shield on the back of the phone was covering the Noise cancellation mic. Even though it looked like the the little square cut out and removed it was not. Apparently this can caused the problem as well. Hope this helps. You can test this by covering the noise cancellation mic while on speaker phone.