Physical keys and lock screen - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all!
During test of android rom "darkstone" I noticed that, with the lock screen, the physical keys are enabled anyway while there is an incoming call.
There is a program like "InCall Lock" for wm?
thanks!
r.

Do you mean when youre on the lockscreen and you press I think either the back or windows button it unlocks the phone??? Cuz I hate when that happens, is there anyway to stop that from happening?

Carliz89 said:
Do you mean when youre on the lockscreen and you press I think either the back or windows button it unlocks the phone??? Cuz I hate when that happens, is there anyway to stop that from happening?
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no, i mean that i can answer with physical key to an incoming call even if my phone is locked...
in hd2 with wm there is a program that avoid this (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612899), I was wondering if there is something similar with android.
r.

nothing about this issue?

Reopened per request from member stating that issue affecting other builds also.
Peace,
Josh

Is there a solution for this issue yet?
I have tried several (sense) builds and on every one I can answer (or reject) a call by pressing the buttons instead of unlocking the screen first.
That is annoying when wearing the phone in the pocket.
On none-sense builds (Default Android lock-screen) I found out something astonishing:
If the screen is locked and the display is turned on I can unlock the device by pressing the windows-key...
Can anybody confirm this issue?

That's not an issue, it's a feature
On android phones you can unlock the phone using the 'menu' hardware key. With our builds, the windows key is mapped as the 'menu' key.
So that's why you can unlock the phone using your windows key

Cryonic90 said:
That's not an issue, it's a feature
On android phones you can unlock the phone using the 'menu' hardware key. With our builds, the windows key is mapped as the 'menu' key.
So that's why you can unlock the phone using your windows key
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HI
I think that what he is looking is that if you have the phone is you pocket and you get a incall, you don't want to answer/cancel the phone because you accidentaly push the "answer or cancel hardware button"..
Is there a way to dissable the hardware buttons when the phone is locked??
Iosu

iosub said:
HI
I think that what he is looking is that if you have the phone is you pocket and you get a incall, you don't want to answer/cancel the phone because you accidentaly push the "answer or cancel hardware button"..
Is there a way to dissable the hardware buttons when the phone is locked??
Iosu
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Yes there is! Pull em out your device when locking!
Nah stupid joke, really don't know mate. Didn't even know about this issue, will test it out tonight and report my findings.

Anybody found a solution yet?

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Switching off the display

Hi. Does anybody have an idea how to switch off the display manually through pressing some keys or menu icons? I found only the timed automatic possibility in the battery settings, but I need the manual function too. On each of my previous phones (TyTN II, i780) it was always possible. Thanks for your help.
Use mortscript to turn-off display and then assign the script to a hardware button.
ctyong said:
Use mortscript to turn-off display and then assign the script to a hardware button.
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Hmm, a little bit to complicated, but thanks for the tip
So your not talking about putting it to sleep by touching the power button? I think all my wm devices have this feature, killing the screen instantly.
I'm not sure about the request - anyway isn't it what Rose does when you press and hold End Call button?
cbreze said:
So your not talking about putting it to sleep by touching the power button? I think all my wm devices have this feature, killing the screen instantly.
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If you touch the power button on the Rose, a menu apears, wher you can choose: if you want to switch the whole phone off, lock the keys, call the task manager or the comm manager. There is unfortunatelly no option to switch only the display off
lelopet said:
I'm not sure about the request - anyway isn't it what Rose does when you press and hold End Call button?
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Pressing and holding the End Call button locks the keys, it doesnt switch the display off
...simply very easy, I am looking for something like psshutxp but for smartphones (WM 6.1 standard). You can everywhere find only the pocket PC version for WM professional, which you can not unfortunatelly install on a smartphone.
Yeah, I was thinking of the pro devices. They seem to get all the love anyway. There seems to not be a built in solution then. Setting the screen timeout real short would be only option and thats not a good option at all. If I come across anything I'll repost. I've just been using the red end key. But I'm so hooked on my touch pro right now I've forgotten the rose for awhile.
Here is the solution for all my troubles http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473017

[APP] InCall Lock - Lock Send/End buttons on incoming call

InCall Lock will temporarily disable Send (aka Talk, Green) and End (aka Red) hardware buttons when you receive an incoming call in order to prevent accidental call pickups/rejects while you are pulling your device out of your pocket. All other hardware buttons are untouched.
After you answer/reject your call the application will release the buttons, so you will be able to hang up, put calls on hold etc. using hardware buttons normally.
The application, after being launched, will remain resident in memory but will not use any CPU cycles at all as it relies on WM Notification system and doesn't do any polling. As it is using WM internal event system, it should work regardless of OS language, installed dialer etc.
This is a zero config application and has no options (yes, this is a feature). I personally needed an application that would do just this - temporarily block these buttons. If you need a device locker, try PocketShield or other available solutions.
How to use:
Install attached cab
Soft reset or launch "InCall Lock Toggle"
To enable/disable InCall Lock temporarily, use InCall Lock Toggle in your Programs menu.
To disable it permanently, just uninstall via Settings - Remove Programs
Requires .Net CF 3.5
Important note for HD2 users: the application won't lock the Send button on this device for some strange reason. If you want to lock it, you'll need to copy phone.lnk from \Windows\Start Menu\Programs to \Windows and rename it to long_send.lnk.
Known issues: the application will also lock the wired headset's answer button. There's no solution for this problem as of yet.
Important note: Unfortunately I cannot support this project anymore because of time constraints and the fact that I don't use a WM device anymore. I'm uploading the source (see attached zip file) so that somebody can develop the thing further. Thanks for understanding and all the positive feedback I've received!
vangrieg said:
InCall Lock will temporarily disable Send (aka Talk, Green) and End (aka Red) hardware buttons when you receive an incoming call in order to prevent accidental call pickups/rejects while you are pulling your device out of your pocket. All other hardware buttons are untouched.
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Thanks. I installed this earlier and just had my first call with it. Seemed to work perfectly.
Hmm... It doesn't seem to work on Topix 2.9.3. It has the Rhodium dialer. Can this be the culprit?
PS: I've only tested it on outgoing calls so far.
Dmitry N said:
Hmm... It doesn't seem to work on Topix 2.9.3. It has the Rhodium dialer. Can this be the culprit?
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No, it works with low-level keyboard hooks and WM Notifications so it should work on any device with WM5.0 and later.
Dmitry N said:
PS: I've only tested it on outgoing calls so far.
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It only locks keys only when your phone is ringing, so it shouldn't even do anything on outgoing calls. It releases keys immediately when you answer or reject a call.
vangrieg said:
It only locks keys only when your phone is ringing, so it shouldn't even do anything on outgoing calls. It releases keys immediately when you answer or reject a call.
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Ha, my bad! OK, thanks for the app. It DOES work!
confirm: work great with touch HD, must have!
Congratulations. It works nice¡
Several apps lock the keys during the incomming call. The touch HD needs to lock the virtuial HW keys during an incomming call AND during a call.You can use the power butten to unblank the screen then use the screen controls to end a call.
This will prevent hangups when using a bt head set and the phone is in your pocket.
apeko said:
Several apps lock the keys during the incomming call.
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Well, maybe, but they usually come with something else I don't need (i.e. Pocket Shield or LML) or have bugs I can't live with (i.e. Pocket Shield continues to vibrate on incoming calls after I pick up the phone).
apeko said:
The touch HD needs to lock the virtuial HW keys during an incomming call AND during a call.You can use the power butten to unblank the screen then use the screen controls to end a call.
This will prevent hangups when using a bt head set and the phone is in your pocket.
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This has never happened to me, and I don't like the idea of locking buttons permanently (I use Green button to put calls on hold, for example, and using touchscreen for this purpose is much more complicated).
If you want a more complete locking solution, why not use a locker like LockDevice, for example? Or even standard lock? It can go hand in hand with InCall Lock. This way you will have buttons locked during the conversation AND prevent accidental presses when pulling your device out of your pocket.
I really don't want to make this program complicated and add options; when people start following this route neat little programs quickly turn into S2U2s. If there is a strong usecase I could theoretically add this functionality, it's not that difficult. I would advise to look at other solutions first though.
vangrieg said:
I really don't want to make this program complicated and add options; when people start following this route neat little programs quickly turn into S2U2s. If there is a strong usecase I could theoretically add this functionality, it's not that difficult. I would advise to look at other solutions first though.
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Hi, I second that! Please keep this as small and simple as possible. As you say, there are always other solutions that can be used with or without InCall Lock to achieve more complicated behavior.
Thanks for a great little app!
Regards,
PK
I am sure many will find this useful
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Well, maybe, but they usually come with something else I don't need (i.e. Pocket Shield or LML) or have bugs I can't live with (i.e. Pocket Shield continues to vibrate on incoming calls after I pick up the phone).
This has never happened to me, and I don't like the idea of locking buttons permanently (I use Green button to put calls on hold, for example, and using touchscreen for this purpose is much more complicated).
If you want a more complete locking solution, why not use a locker like LockDevice, for example? Or even standard lock? It can go hand in hand with InCall Lock. This way you will have buttons locked during the conversation AND prevent accidental presses when pulling your device out of your pocket.
I really don't want to make this program complicated and add options; when people start following this route neat little programs quickly turn into S2U2s. If there is a strong usecase I could theoretically add this functionality, it's not that difficult. I would advise to look at other solutions first though.
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The problem is on the touch HD phone the vertuial keys are allways active even with theas other programs.
No other program has an option to lock the virtuial HW keys on a touch HD during a call. Yours could be the first! If you are making a program to lock the keys why not make it complete? Then with a touch of the power button everything unlocks.
apeko said:
The problem is on the touch HD phone the vertuial keys are allways active even with theas other programs.
No other program has an option to lock the virtuial HW keys on a touch HD during a call.
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I have a Touch HD myself, and I still don't understand your problem. Keys on HD may be "virtual" in that they are part of the touchscreen, but they are "hardware" in that they are managed by the system (or programs, for that matter) in the same way as true hardware keys are.
apeko said:
If you are making a program to lock the keys why not make it complete? Then with a touch of the power button everything unlocks.
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Because it locks keys in situations where they can be pressed accidentally and which aren't handled well by other programs, that's the point. Like I said, I don't understand why you can't use standard locking programs to lock keys in standard situations. Maybe I'm missing something?
When i am on a call i do not want the keys on the bottem active. Just because a program blanks out the screen the keys at the bottem of the phone are still active. This causes acctdental key press when the phone is in my pocket and i am talking on my bt head set.
BTW thanks for your hard work and i apreiciate you time on this topic. your time is valuable. Thank you.
apeko, have you tried LockDevice? If yes, did you try activation on screen off? If not, you should try it. If it doesn't help I'll look into the issue and probably will make a version of InCall Lock that will keep keys locked until the end of call.
Actually, how about an alternative solution - what if a program locked Send and End keys while a headset is connected, without monitoring call state?
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Actually, how about an alternative solution - what if a program locked Send and End keys while a headset is connected, without monitoring call state?
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Yes that would work.
Is it the monitoring of the call status that makes the program tricky?
To be specific the problem is the Send and End keys while on the BT head set. Your alternitive solution should work fine. But the actual key locking problem on the touch hd is the Send and End keys only
1. when the phone rings-(solved)
2. during a call when on a BT head set- if it has to lock the Send &End keys allways during a BT connection i think i could live with that!
this is an awesome app!! so simple yet so usefull, thank you for your work!!
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Is it the monitoring of the call status that makes the program tricky?
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Well, maybe you don't need all these details, but since you asked... It brings the number of checks the program has to perform to like a dozen from one trigger and one check.
First, it has to monitor if a headset is present - that's two or three checks (HeadsetPresent, A2DPConected and HeadsetAudio).
Then there are like two dozen Phone states, out of which probably three to five are relevant - PhoneIncomingCall, PhoneCallCalling, PhoneCallTalking, PhoneCallOnHold(?), PhoneConferenceCall. Maybe not - that's a Windows flavor after all. In any case, there's no simple "Phone is actively used" state. Or maybe there is - needs investigation.
All this stuff needs testing in different combinations, and I don't even have a bluetooth headset to test (that is, I have it but for the life of me can't remember where it is).
When you introduce all these things you're asking for bugs because it's difficult to predict what they all mean exactly and how they work with each other. That's why I'm reluctant to add features like this into an application that seems to work fine. I'll look into the issue though, and if I do add this functionality it will be in a separate application.

[Request] Alternative touchless/trackball based unlock

Hi,
All previous iterations of android phones could be unlocked without using the touchscreen, eg. by tapping the menu button twice. Problem is that the menu button is capacitive on the Nexus. You can't press it with gloves, nor can you slide unlock the screen.
The trackball was useful because you could minimally operate apps with it, like skipping tracks in the music app..
Could it be possible to develop an alternate unlock mecanism, such as drawing a large circle using the trackball ?
I look forward to not having to take off my gloves to skip tracks when skiing
Use your nose jk it would be nice to have another way to unlock.
Or even map it to the volume button (while still requiring the slide-to-unlock) and I'd be happy as a clam. The power button is just hard to reach for some, sometimes.
parrot5 said:
Or even map it to the volume button (while still requiring the slide-to-unlock) and I'd be happy as a clam. The power button is just hard to reach for some, sometimes.
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...always looking out for the dwarfs of the world. very nice of you!
I'd be happy to be able at least wake up the phone with the trackball!
That would be perfect to me...i would assume its just some directory setting..does anyone know how to achieve this?
bradyonly said:
Use your nose jk it would be nice to have another way to unlock.
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I did actually contemplate that, but my pride talked me out of doing it on a crowded ski slope.
Probably my biggest con for the phone...unlocking it requires pressing the power button. Someone please hack this!
I'm trying to find the way to wake up with the trackball, but not found
I want to group same number or contact on call log (like as Iphone) also
This is a fantastic idea. I am honestly worried about wearing out the power button. I don't find this a flaw with the nexus, but I would love the option to turning on the screen with one tap and unlocking the phone with a second tap. I know this will make a lot of people happy. can someone please do it?
i'd love a "trackball-on" feature - the g1 could be activated with every button on it.
this was good to unburden the power-button.
There is an app that doing that...Lock 2.0
rename Lock 2.0.zip to Lock 2.0.apk
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Or even map it to the volume button (while still requiring the slide-to-unlock) and I'd be happy as a clam. The power button is just hard to reach for some, sometimes.
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It costs money, but if you buy the ICE Lockscreen (By appventive), it lets you wake up the screen with the volume rocker. Its also a good thing to have just in case you get into an accident or something happens to you.
This is a feature I have wanted to see since I received the N1 ... I would love to see a Trackball -On feature ......... almost like, I hate to say it .... but how the iphone unlocks.
SatanR1 said:
This is a feature I have wanted to see since I received the N1 ... I would love to see a Trackball -On feature ......... almost like, I hate to say it .... but how the iphone unlocks.
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Then Lock 2.0 would be ideal for you.
I have always hated how we need to press the power button to lock and unlock this thing. Makes me feel like I have an iphone. My G1 and mytouch had the power button at the bottom so it was not a problem.
If I could develop the app I would, but unfortunately I do not know how.
chuspitin said:
There is an app that doing that...Lock 2.0
rename Lock 2.0.zip to Lock 2.0.apk
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Does that prevent the phone to sleep?
detox702 said:
It costs money, but if you buy the ICE Lockscreen (By appventive), it lets you wake up the screen with the volume rocker. Its also a good thing to have just in case you get into an accident or something happens to you.
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Edit: I just tried it. Even the trackball works!
Update: It's buggy. Doesn't work every single time. Sometimes you'll have to press Power first.
Does this prevent the phone to sleep?
i just tried lock 2.0 and i guess it does the job but its so hideous! none of the themes are formated for the N1. so the background will only reach 75% but it does allow you to turn the screen on via volume switch. if they can do this, then im sure someone else can do this too. idc if i have to pay, i just want my normal 2.1 lock screen and just be able to use the volume or trackball. someone make this happen please! if we ask enough it might just happen
Tried Lock 2.0. Its ok, seem to have some bugs. password protect is a joke. If you press the trackball to wake up, all you have to do is tap the home key and it goes home bypassing the lock screen. You can do that with or without the password protect on. I think it needs some work to be compatable with the nexus one.
Even better if someone could create something, a device, or something so that I could unless my N1 with only the power of my mind itself! thnik2unlock.apk kgo
I use "screen mode widget" from the Market

Hero-Power Button problem

Hello guys. At first i´m so sorry for my bad english, so i´ll show you a video of my problem.
Phone - HTC Hero, Android 2,1
Video:
I can´t post outside links in my messages...
youtube. com/watch?v=V1BwQZsoKCk
It will not go to sleep mode when pressing the end/power key. But it still takes phone OUT of sleep mode, but now I have to wait for the screen timeout instead of pressing the button again.
I tried to find answer to my question, but i failed... I tried Reboot, Spare Parts - i don´t know if it worked properly, Hard reset, but the power button still not working properly.
Thank you! Marty
Restore you phone to the default setting and softares
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I tried that... No results
Marty Chill said:
I tried that... No results
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Try to restore your phone to the default, or try to install a custom rom
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Now i did a ROOT and i try to flash in some ROMs but it still not works + it cancels my outcoming and incoming calls...
Sounds like you have a failing power button.. like I do.
It's a real pain in the ass... been looking for solutions for quite a while, besides physically replacing the circuit board the button is on...
I know this is old but for anybody researching the same problem... after trying MANY different apps for taking over power button tasks, the only real solution was to buy a replacement "Flex Cable" assembly on eBay. Takes some bravery to install but everything works now.
But that's just my experience.
I suppose that the simplest way out id button remapper that you can find hear at xda.
By using such software you can easily turn any of the other physical keys of your device into the power button.
lucaoldb said:
I suppose that the simplest way out id button remapper that you can find hear at xda.
By using such software you can easily turn any of the other physical keys of your device into the power button.
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True, and they did work once the phone was up and running. However, when something went wrong on my rom and I needed to get into recovery to re-flash... I was SOL.
Yes, remapping is applied only after the kernel is loaded... So remapping is quite useless if the phone is switched off.

Power button menu in lock screen .. ?!

Hi ,
i'm having some problems with my Galaxy S3 - I9300
my baby brother keeps turning my phone off ..
i use a pin code for the lock screen. but that doesnt stop anyone from holding the power button then turning the phone off
is there anyway to disable this menu in lockscreen
also it makes anyone capable of enabling silent mode or airplane mode and i dot want that..
is there any third party lock screens that would disable this menu ...
i really need help !!
thnxx in advance...
Ali5anDro31 said:
Hi ,
i'm having some problems with my Galaxy S3 - I9300
my baby brother keeps turning my phone off ..
i use a pin code for the lock screen. but that doesnt stop anyone from holding the power button then turning the phone off
is there anyway to disable this menu in lockscreen
also it makes anyone capable of enabling silent mode or airplane mode and i dot want that..
is there any third party lock screens that would disable this menu ...
i really need help !!
thnxx in advance...
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I too would like to know if that is possible
Ive found out that its possible to disable the WAKE function for the power button. This will disable the power menu, but you can still hold the button down for like 6sec and it will shutdown... :-\
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No way
Sorry to revive a dead thread, but I want to be able to wake/sleep my phone with the power button, but don't want anyone to be able to access airplane mode or turn the phone off. I have a HTC Desire S, and when that's locked, the power button does absolutely nothing except switch the screen on, which is what I want to happen. As the S3 currently functions this is a maor issue for me, because if anyone finds/steals my phone, there is nothing turning on Airplane mode immediately, at which point my phone becomes unrecoverable.
This seems like a limitation/oversight of touchwiz, is there no way at all I can get the S3 to behave like the Desire?
Ryaninja said:
if anyone finds/steals my phone, there is nothing turning on Airplane mode immediately, at which point my phone becomes unrecoverable.
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It's not like there's something stopping them from turning it off (hold the button, it's wired in the hw, impossible to disable) or simply taking out the sim card
Glebun said:
It's not like there's something stopping them from turning it off (hold the button, it's wired in the hw, impossible to disable) or simply taking out the sim card
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It's wired into the hardware? Are you sure about that? The power button on my HTC does absolutely nothing if you press the power button (for any length of time) while the phone is locked. In my opinion it would be software that controls the function of the button.
You make a good point about the sim though - that an the battery being removed would stop me from finding it.
However the main thing I'd like to disable is the airplane mode function from the lockscreen as it literally takes no time at all to do. At least the other methods require a little bit more effort, and the scum that steal phones aren't usually known for their intelligence, so I can always cling to the hope they won't think about taking the back off (since so many phones nowadays have inaccessible guts) to remove the battery or sim, at least not immediately.
Is there anyone who can help with this?
Ryaninja said:
It's wired into the hardware? Are you sure about that? The power button on my HTC does absolutely nothing if you press the power button (for any length of time) while the phone is locked. In my opinion it would be software that controls the function of the button.
You make a good point about the sim though - that an the battery being removed would stop me from finding it.
However the main thing I'd like to disable is the airplane mode function from the lockscreen as it literally takes no time at all to do. At least the other methods require a little bit more effort, and the scum that steal phones aren't usually known for their intelligence, so I can always cling to the hope they won't think about taking the back off (since so many phones nowadays have inaccessible guts) to remove the battery or sim, at least not immediately.
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I don't think it's any more difficult to steal the phone by diabling the powerbutton functions, but I would still really like to find a way of disabling this function. Although it's meant as an easy way to enter reboot, shutdown and turning on/off misc functions, I don't mind unlocking the phone to do the same things through the slidedown menu.
I just don't like the fact that the phone actually can be turned off by holding a button down for x-amount of seconds, or even open up a menu that lets anyone change the status of the phone. When it's locked it is locked to prevent accidental changes when the phone is in my pocket AND to prevent people from accessing any options, unless they pull the battery and boot to download or recovery.
The powerbutton and the home menu should be allowed to wake the phone up, so that you can read widgets/missed events/the time or whatever, but never let anyone do anything before they enter the correct pattern/password or whatever security is enabled.
Hope that this can be fixed. Been searchin around for weeks after this and would really like to see someone assist us with this issue.
Its a build not a fix wait for SGS4 and see if its been added .
Personally if i had to enter pinlocks as you suggest i would not want this phone .
Development sometimes putting up a large bounty or donating a SGS3 may kick start a modification .
jje
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It's wired into the hardware? Are you sure about that?
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