I used to have the iphone 3gs, but now i have a Samsung Galaxy with Android 2.1.
I had a great program called Air Video, it was so great, i almost chose not to upgrade to android cause it wasnt on the Andriod platform.
You installed a client on the phone, and a transcode server software on your pc, and then the magic began, you could stream any kind of video format straight from your PC to your phone in realtime. It supported mkv, divx and a whole lot of other formats. I could even stream video from my satelite tuner straight to my phone with this software. It was totaly mindblowing, and it worked both on 3g and over wifi, you just adjusted the quality of the stream in the client program on the phone. I could lay in bed, and watch my whole video archive straight from my pc on my phone, i could watch it from work and anywhere with 3g coverage.
The great thing about this program, was that everything was on the fly, and went automaticly, you didnt have to convert EVERY video file to mp4 (or simular) before you started streaming.
Now im wondering, is there a good alternative(program or guide), that will work the same way on android phones?
PS Ive tried Orb, and it couldnt realy compete, at all
This sounds awesome...I want to know too.
I been talking with the developer of Mezzmo who working on his server app to support the Droid X, but I believe that is one of the few apps thats trying to work on something. I miss airvideo myself, his forum is filled with people begging for him to port it to android. I'm hoping Froyo will allow me to use either Mezzmo (he recently said that the phone is looking for the moov atom at the front instead of the end like how ffmpeg puts it. I downloaded a adobe air app to move it and still no luck streaming.
Airmote doesnt work
Using ES Explorer to connect to samba shares would be cool if I could figure out how to get a1video player to play the streamed file (but since the moov atom is at the end it would have to download the entire clip to view it first)
umediaplayer I can't find to test out, that or homepipe
Orblive is a joke on Android.
Tried Tversity to android reading a way to use the webpage frontend, but same streaming issue.
Only thing sucks as of now is the fact there is no real streaming from PC option that works well for the array of video types out there like airvideo.
I did find something interesting even though it only streamed a couple avi files. I loaded yxplay and pointed it to TVersity 192.168.1.101:41952.
I have the samsung galaxy s, and i heard that Samsung PC Share Manager + Allshare on the phone, would make streaming mkv from my pc easy.
I hurried up, and installed Samsung PC Share Manager, and got the error, "Server can`t start"
Another great piece of samsung software, almost as good as Kies
(Wich btw also doesnt work on my win7 64bit, no matter what i try)
I even tried Samsung Pc Share Manager on a Vista 32 box, same error there. Can`t start server.
Oh how i love Samsung software.
Have you had a look at Websharing?
Tried it briefly, no go.
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Try VLC
You can use VLC to transcode from a capture device, another stream, or media files.
I've used a Windows Media Server for years with my Windows Mobile Touch Pro (and its WiMo predecessors). I stream my police scanner, TV and music files but there's no working Android player. I left my WMS as is but run VLC on a workstation, taking the WMS stream and transcoding it to RTSP for the Android. It works just fine.
I suspect that this would be very difficult if not impossible to do on Android right now. Streaming support just isn't up to par within the core OS.
Try VLC Stream and Convert. (Developer's website)
It's not exactly simple or user-friendly, but it works wonderfully to transcode and stream any video (or audio) file on demand from my server to my Nexus One.
The server software is VLC, which is a cross-platform application and works on Linux, Windows, and Mac OSX.
There is a free as well as a paid version in the market. The free version transcodes and streams without a problem.
I just have it set up to work over wifi, but it should work over 3g as well, if you adjust the quality down a bit.
VLC Stream and Convert
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Try VLC Stream and Convert. (Developer's website)
It's not exactly simple or user-friendly, but it works wonderfully to transcode and stream any video (or audio) file on demand from my server to my Nexus One.
The server software is VLC, which is a cross-platform application and works on Linux, Windows, and Mac OSX.
There is a free as well as a paid version in the market. The free version transcodes and streams without a problem.
I just have it set up to work over wifi, but it should work over 3g as well, if you adjust the quality down a bit.
VLC Stream and Convert
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Sounds like a wonderfull app.
Can you share the settings on VLC to get the transcoding to work?
The app is not really user friendly on this aspect
Thanks
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Sounds like a wonderfull app.
Can you share the settings on VLC to get the transcoding to work?
The app is not really user friendly on this aspect
Thanks
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Please do........
A small guide perhaps?
So you can choose wich files to stream from the pc from the phone? Or do you have to start a video file in vlc to able to stream to android?
Edit:
I used the setup from here: http://sites.google.com/site/traveldevel/vlc-stream-convert/setup
And i was able to stream video via rtsp, the quality wasnt great but good enough, this is definatly a step forward
Edit2: Quality could be adjusted, and it looks great over wifi now, im so happy
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Edit2: Quality could be adjusted, and it looks great over wifi now, im so happy
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Dear |OP|
Could you please let me know what audio settings you are using? I get a picture that is good enough, but the audio is *noisy* to say the least.
Rgds,
NorTor
For just 'Audio Files', I have the Audio bitrate set to 128, 'Fake video' unchecked, and 'Keep stream open' unchecked. I haven't used that very often, so I can't vouch for the quality.
But under 'Video Files', I have the 'Audio bitrate' set to 96, and 'Synchronize on audio' checked. It sounds pretty good to me.
These are both under 'Stream rtsp' in settings, not the 'Stream http', as I don't use the HTTP streaming at all.
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Dear |OP|
Could you please let me know what audio settings you are using? I get a picture that is good enough, but the audio is *noisy* to say the least.
Rgds,
NorTor
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Default audio settings.
Thank you so much for this. I have been looking everywhere and this is exactly what I was looking for. I wish I knew about VLC's streaming capabilities a long time ago; I've been using VLC for years lol.
Now, I need to work out how to create a VLC library.
Hello,
I dont know if you find the right solution, but you can look at "vdr" and "vdr client for android". It is a server cient streaming solution.
my problem with vlc stream and convert it connects to my ubuntu 10.04 and vlc 1.0.6 and when I click stream via http the sound would come through and its perfect for streaming mp3. If I were to stream movies this way.. only the sound comes thru and not the video part.
If I were to stream through rtsp, the phone would stall on buffering.... and on the command line is
Code:
[0x8cd1568] main stream out error: socket bind error (Permission denied)
[0x8cd1568] main stream out error: cannot create socket(s) for HTTP host
[0x8cd1568] stream_out_rtp stream out error: cannot export SDP as RTSP
I tried posting to see if anyone could help but no replies yet. All share is great but its limited in the file types that it can play.. Have not found something that is similar to Air video as yet but if VLC stream and convert can be figured out that it would be just about perfect.
After some trial and error, I finally got vlc S&C to work properly on both WiFi and 3g. I have been able to watch good quality movies. It has been able to transcode all video formats I've thrown at it.
Although the dev states to use rtsp ports 554 or 5554, they only work on WiFi for me. I think the stream is trying to use a variable port selection and I am not opening my router for all ports. Also, my home ISP (Comcast) blocks certain ports (including 554). For my rtsp port selection I use 8081 and it worked like a charm. hope this helps
I have heard good things about Homepipe.
http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/08/...otos-remotely-pc-mac-iphone-android-homepipe/
Android app is supposedly available.
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Only been playing with it for a little bit, but there's a new VLC compatible streaming client available on the Market called VLC Stream & Convert.
It allows you to run VLC on a client on your lan (be sure to add the Web control interface from VIEW/ADD INTERFACE) and connect to it. You can either remote control VLC from the phone....or..you can stream video to your phone from the client side app with a simple filesystem browser.
Though the realtime conversion and streaming isn't the best quality it's most definitely handy and orders of magnitude more seamless than dealing with DLNA.
Maybe everyone else isn't a hardcore media geek with terabytes of video spread about a home lan like me. But this addition to the market makes me happy!
Thought I'd share.
Scott
This looks really cool. Will definitely try this tomorrow after work!
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Only been playing with it for a little bit, but there's a new VLC compatible streaming client available on the Market called VLC Stream & Convert.
It allows you to run VLC on a client on your lan (be sure to add the Web control interface from VIEW/ADD INTERFACE) and connect to it. You can either remote control VLC from the phone....or..you can stream video to your phone from the client side app with a simple filesystem browser.
Though the realtime conversion and streaming isn't the best quality it's most definitely handy and orders of magnitude more seamless than dealing with DLNA.
Maybe everyone else isn't a hardcore media geek with terabytes of video spread about a home lan like me. But this addition to the market makes me happy!
Thought I'd share.
Scott
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You may have just solved a problem for me... I am having some issues though.
I have it installed and working. I find my VLC player through the app and can start videos no problem, but there is no audio.
What AAC encoder are you using on your system? Im running on Win7 and cant seem to get it working.
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You may have just solved a problem for me... I am having some issues though.
I have it installed and working. I find my VLC player through the app and can start videos no problem, but there is no audio.
What AAC encoder are you using on your system? Im running on Win7 and cant seem to get it working.
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On all the PC's on the home lan I now only ever install VLC, Media Player Classic Home Cinema, and FFDSHOW. VLC's built in AAC decoder generally handles things fine, but if it gets confused (in the case of some encodes with weird FOURCC headers) FFDSHOW usually picks up the slack externally.
I'll run through my collection (it's well over 3 terabytes now so it might take a bit) and see if I run across anything with AAC that this stumbles over. I'm running Win7 x64 on this laptop, so it'll be my guinea pig.
I have a good idea of a few known encodes I have with weird AAC audio header info, primarily because they also won't play natively correctly in the phone's built in video player or rock player. I'll let you know what I find out.
EDIT: Well that didn't take long. It seems that the same encodes with .AAC audio that give the built in player grief (as well as Rockplayer) also refuse to have their audio play correctly in this streaming app. Even more interesting, these all play natively within VLC on the desktop. However, VLC, FFDSHOW, and my universal backup plan when encountering weird stuff that won't play (KMPlayer) all use LIBFAAD for .AAC decoding. Upon further investigation it appears that some .AAC profiles (there are actually six baseline types of .AAC audio...go figure) aren't properly supported by Android's native .aac parser (found this info on DoubleTwists support forums).
Looks like this is a native flaw in Android itself at this point. Going to investigate further. Thank god that there are literally only a handful of encodes in my collection that have this problem or I'd be pulling my hair out.
Can someone show me how to use this to stream over 3G??
I opened ports on my router and got my WAN IP entered but it won't let me connect.
Did you enable the Web Interface in VLC on the client PC? It is not on by defaut.
Start VLC on a PC on your lan, go to the VIEW menu....ADD INTERFACE...WEB INTERFACE. With that selected the android client should automatically find the VLC instance running on your lan connected PC. This assumes no additional firewall is blocking the app on the PC.
I got it working pretty good using wifi inside my network, so I think VLC is setup properly.
What I'm trying to do is to stream through t-mobile 3G.
I did the port forwarding in my router, but couldn't get the app to connect my home PC via 3G.
I've been able to get it to connect via 3G here, though only HTTP audio streaming seems to work. RTSP video streaming seems to be broken via 3g, and again this appears to be an Android issue from what I'm reading.
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I got it working pretty good using wifi inside my network, so I think VLC is setup properly.
What I'm trying to do is to stream through t-mobile 3G.
I did the port forwarding in my router, but couldn't get the app to connect my home PC via 3G.
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I've been able to get it to connect via 3G here, though only HTTP audio streaming seems to work. RTSP video streaming seems to be broken via 3g, and again this appears to be an Android issue from what I'm reading.
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From the dev's site, found here
"Why does rtsp streaming not work over 3G?
Some operators don't allow rtsp on their network. Http streaming should work instead but for videos you can only stream the audio track."
If its true that t-mobile is blocking RTSP then that sucks. Im going to play with it tomorrow and see for myself.
If this doesnt work then Im back to square one. I really wanted to find a way to use the Twonky media server I already have setup and streaming. I have been streaming videos to friends and family for about half a year now. My Fios 30mb up 30mb down even allows me to stream 720p content over UPNP without so much as a hiccup.
First person that can manage to remove the wifi only option in AllShare gets access to my collection. . I have been trying to find it but im not really sure what im looking for in the code.
Thanks to a tweet from Kmob, I just found out about SubSonic.
Its an open source media server that runs on windows/linux/mac and creates a very clean web interface for accessing all your media you have stored on your home network.
I have a windows box that I use as my media storage server. I installed subsonic in about a minute, configured it in under 3 (including setting up the paths to my specific media folders, and opening a port on my router)
They have an android app, installed it on my new atrix... setup the app to point to my router's dyndns address with the specific port I setup and BAM, done.
you select the media item you want to play via the very clean app interface, then it opens in a browser window showing a flash player. Make the player full screen and you are set.
From start to finish, I was watching House in less than 7 minutes.
Links:
Subsonic Web Page
Subsonic Android App (on Android Market website)
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Why aren't you using DLNA ?
I smell a plug.
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Why aren't you using DLNA ?
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Correct me if im wrong, but isnt DLNA for getting media stored on your phone to display on your tv? This lets you play media stored on your pc on your phone... On wifi or even 3g
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I smell a plug.
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if by plug you mean trying to pass on information about a program that I found and thought was useful to me, then sure... I guess I'm plugging this
But if by "plug" you are insinuating that I am some how affiliated with the software or might profit from telling people about it, (here, I was going to say something about "plugging" and "your mom", but instead i'll assume you were just trying to be witty, and say...) you are mistaken.
And I plugged your mom
nice
nice reply and subsonic seems to be pretty amazing so far. Have not tried over 3g yet but if thats good then id say this is a good find.
I use Plex for all my streaming needs. Works well for $5!
windows and mac servers are avail
Does it have any authentication? If it does I might give it a try. I have been struggling to find a good streaming app with security. I have tried orb, plex and several others. Orb seemed to work ok as long as you dont have a large library. Plex didn't see alot of my files because they didn't meet its naming convention. Plex also had no easy way to set up security.
I miss Airvideo. It was and has been my only regret about leaving the Iphone.
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DLNA no audio
I am trying to use DLNA via a Windows 7 pc. Video shows up fantastic, but no audio, I hope I don't have to transcode the audio, some of them are AC3 and DTS.
Can Subsonic handle that?
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Does it have any authentication? If it does I might give it a try. I have been struggling to find a good streaming app with security. I have tried orb, plex and several others. Orb seemed to work ok as long as you dont have a large library. Plex didn't see alot of my files because they didn't meet its naming convention. Plex also had no easy way to set up security.
I miss Airvideo. It was and has been my only regret about leaving the Iphone.
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Yes, you can create multiple users, it even supports Ldap (windows domain user credentials)
I think it even supports ssl, but im not 100% sure on that.
bekarhoo said:
I am trying to use DLNA via a Windows 7 pc. Video shows up fantastic, but no audio, I hope I don't have to transcode the audio, some of them are AC3 and DTS.
Can Subsonic handle that?
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Subsonic handles transcoding flawlessly.
mburris said:
if by plug you mean trying to pass on information about a program that I found and thought was useful to me, then sure... I guess I'm plugging this
But if by "plug" you are insinuating that I am some how affiliated with the software or might profit from telling people about it, (here, I was going to say something about "plugging" and "your mom", but instead i'll assume you were just trying to be witty, and say...) you are mistaken.
And I plugged your mom
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Apologies, I just briefly checked your other posts and came to the wrong conclusion. I've actually picked this up based on this thread and I'm enjoying it. I had the same issue with video but no audio, and it handles it great. Thanks for the heads up.
p.s. my mom would like to know when you're calling her back.
So I tried this and over all am happy with it.
I have been tweaking the settings to get things working well over 3g.
My friend on sprint 4G seems to have better results than me.
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Correct me if im wrong, but isnt DLNA for getting media stored on your phone to display on your tv? This lets you play media stored on your pc on your phone... On wifi or even 3g
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Actually, atrix can be acted as DLNA client which can play media stored in DLNA server. I use PS3 Media server on my mini mac to streaming avi files to my PS3 and Atrix. Only problem is I cannot watch some of avi files because of compatibility issue with codec - Atrix will say "not supported media type" sometimes.
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Actually, atrix can be acted as DLNA client which can play media stored in DLNA server. I use PS3 Media server on my mini mac to streaming avi files to my PS3 and Atrix. Only problem is I cannot watch some of avi files because of compatibility issue with codec - Atrix will say "not supported media type" sometimes.
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Correction noted, thank you.
Subsonic can install on a mac, and takes very little ram, so there probably wouldn't be much harm in running both (PS3 MS and subsonic) on your mac mini.
The real time transcoding SS does should eliminate any chance of codec compatibility issues.
I can vouch for SubSonic.. been using it for the past month, streams videos FLAWLESSLY. Way better then AirVideo for the iPhone, and a cinch to set up. In order to use the domain from another PC you have to donate, but it works for free streaming to the Android..... love this app so far.
Now if only Android can get the new version of iMobsters that was pulled from the appstore, and NHL 2K11, only then I can finally sell my iPhone 3GS.
Is this the same as Using the Open Source VLC Player to stream over http or rtsp? I'm using this now, and it works awesome...it converts and streams every file type VLC can play...with no buffering time over Wifi...and bearable buffering over 4G. But, here's the catch for me. You have to have VLC running all the time on PC side, with web interface enabled. So it it's not, I have to log in, remote control computer open VLC.
Is this way an application, or just a process running in the background on PC side? I'm sure I got some of the terminology confused a bit, as I'm not an expert...hopefully it's understandable though.
You may host, organize, and broadcast your video and audio to your website, apps, and other platforms without difficulty with Muvi Flex's audio streaming servers.
So, my wifi signal near my router is at best -48db. Not sure if that is normal or not. The wifi seems capped at 65mbps at best...which should be enough but we all know it isn't.
My problem is that I can't stream large HD files from my server. I'm not talking about transcoding them. On my laptops, I can easily stream and play any HD file. The Prime is choking on them because of wifi and network issues.
Is anyone streaming full HD (mkv or otherwise) to their prime from their network? I'm using Es file explorer to do so and Mx Video player to play the file.
PS..the files play fine if put on the internal hard drive of the Prime.
Try using plex. It worked for me with bdrips
Thanks. Regarding Plex:
1. Can you install that on Windows Home Server Version 1? I'd hate to put it on my regular desktop since it would have to be awake the whole time (unless Plex wakes it up).
2. Plex transcodes right? How much reduction in quality are you getting for those bluray rips?
3. Do you know if Plex plays WTV (windows media center) files? I have a ton of Recorded TV on the server.
Thanks.
I was able to do a 1080p Avatar bluray rip steam onto mxplayer
NO problem at all..
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Thanks. Regarding Plex:
1. Can you install that on Windows Home Server Version 1? I'd hate to put it on my regular desktop since it would have to be awake the whole time (unless Plex wakes it up).
2. Plex transcodes right? How much reduction in quality are you getting for those bluray rips?
3. Do you know if Plex plays WTV (windows media center) files? I have a ton of Recorded TV on the server.
Thanks.
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I use Plex on my WHS (V1, not 2011) and it's changed my life. I use it to stream 2TB of MKV rips to my phone, tablet, and Google TVs. It transcodes brilliantly and steps video quality based on bandwidth available. It streams great to my tablet over a 3MB 3G connection. And you can access your content from any outside 3G or Wi-Fi connection. I can even stream over the ****ty GoGo connection on airplanes.
I don't know about WTV files. If it doesn't work with Plex, try PlayOn. PlayOn provides access to all audio and video files you have stored on your WHS. It also provides access to Hulu (better than the native app), Amazon VOD, Netflix, and a host of other online video channels. It too works remotely. Between Plex and Playon I only store content locally when I'm going to be on a long flight without Wi-Fi.
When you first set Plex up, read the instructions for renaming your files in to the format for them to be tagged. It's a pain in the ass but the end result is worth it. It adds cover art, descriptions, and, for TV series, sorts them by season and episode. Plex is one of the most underated pieces of s/w out there.
P.S. - What h/w is your WHS running on? It needs to be at least dual-core.
720p is working fine. 1080p I am still having problems with it.
(performs the same as my original TF).
Not sure what is going on here. Using Estrongs File browswer to browse
to Windows 7 PC. Hooked of course 100mbit lan cable to my Netgear
Wireless N 300mb. Pulling 1080p .mkvs 6 to 8GB rips.. I get stuttering
in Diceplayer, Mxplayer. Right from the start.
Tablet on Normal performance setting. Like 15 feet from my router.
I tried different compression settings in the players.
Those that are having flawless 1080p video what player are you using?
I am using MXplayer with Upnplay streaming with PS3 Media server. no problems.
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I use Plex on my WHS (V1, not 2011) and it's changed my life. I use it to stream 2TB of MKV rips to my phone, tablet, and Google TVs. It transcodes brilliantly and steps video quality based on bandwidth available. It streams great to my tablet over a 3MB 3G connection. And you can access your content from any outside 3G or Wi-Fi connection. I can even stream over the ****ty GoGo connection on airplanes.
I don't know about WTV files. If it doesn't work with Plex, try PlayOn. PlayOn provides access to all audio and video files you have stored on your WHS. It also provides access to Hulu (better than the native app), Amazon VOD, Netflix, and a host of other online video channels. It too works remotely. Between Plex and Playon I only store content locally when I'm going to be on a long flight without Wi-Fi.
When you first set Plex up, read the instructions for renaming your files in to the format for them to be tagged. It's a pain in the ass but the end result is worth it. It adds cover art, descriptions, and, for TV series, sorts them by season and episode. Plex is one of the most underated pieces of s/w out there.
P.S. - What h/w is your WHS running on? It needs to be at least dual-core.
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I have an HP Ex487 so I only have an Intel Celeron 2ghz. Probably won't handle Plex.
I don't think its the video player. Mxplayer plays those files fine locally. I just don't think the Prime's wifi can stream a full HD file directly from the server.
I'm using a Netgear WNDR3300 router with 2.4ghz at 270mbps. The Prime reads that connection at a max of 65mbps. The result is that high def video will stutter over that connection.
Not sure how you guys are getting 1080p to play unless you transcode it.
>Hooked of course 100mbit lan cable to my Netgear Wireless N 300mb.
The 300Mb/s is the theoretical link rate, not actual bandwidth. Do a big file copy with ES. Then calc filesize / xfer_time * 8 bit/byte = actual avg bandwidth in Mbit/s.
Video content has highly variable bandwidth needs. Per the graph below, this particular 1080p Avatar clip's video requires 18.6Mb/s on avg, 32.5Mb/s at peak. Add bandwidth for each audio track (DTS=1.5Mb/s, normal AC3=0.64Mb/s). Does your actual avg bandwidth at least equal the clip's total avg bandwidth use?
Wifi also has drop-outs, not to mention it's a shared resource. Rule-of-thumb is to take your video's avg bandwidth use x 3 (to account for drop-outs and bit spikes) and compare it to the connection's bandwidth, in determining the wifi connection's viability for HD streaming.
For the typical wifi setup, 720p is usually OK, assuming the user isn't sharing the wifi. 1080p is usually not OK. That's why there is a proliferation of proprietary wireless HD equipment on the market.
Streaming, as some mentioned, has its strengths. Its weaknesses are that it requires a beefy PC on the server end to do real-time transcoding, its video quality is lowered, and seeking is problematic. But for some situations, it may be a good choice.
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I guess.. my i7 2600k at 5.2 and told to use all 8 cores to do.. helps.. I def do not have a fancy router at all..
Has anyone tried using Skifta/Twonky paired with TVersity on the PC with the prime
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>Hooked of course 100mbit lan cable to my Netgear Wireless N 300mb.
The 300Mb/s is the theoretical link rate, not actual bandwidth. Do a big file copy with ES. Then calc filesize / xfer_time * 8 bit/byte = actual avg bandwidth in Mbit/s.
Video content has highly variable bandwidth needs. Per the graph below, this particular 1080p Avatar clip's video requires 18.6Mb/s on avg, 32.5Mb/s at peak. Add bandwidth for each audio track (DTS=1.5Mb/s, normal AC3=0.64Mb/s). Does your actual avg bandwidth at least equal the clip's total avg bandwidth use?
Wifi also has drop-outs, not to mention it's a shared resource. Rule-of-thumb is to take your video's avg bandwidth use x 3 (to account for drop-outs and bit spikes) and compare it to the connection's bandwidth, in determining the wifi connection's viability for HD streaming.
For the typical wifi setup, 720p is usually OK, assuming the user isn't sharing the wifi. 1080p is usually not OK. That's why there is a proliferation of proprietary wireless HD equipment on the market.
Streaming, as some mentioned, has its strengths. Its weaknesses are that it requires a beefy PC on the server end to do real-time transcoding, its video quality is lowered, and seeking is problematic. But for some situations, it may be a good choice.
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Hey thanks for the info. I take it this is why airvideo with airserver is working so well on the IPAD2.
Keeps the bit rate lower and does all the work on the PC. I guess I would need something similar on PC
like airserver to stream videos to the Prime.
Laptop is fine. I have no problems streaming same 1080p to it. More powerful.
Only tablet I have found that will handle it. Was the Samsung S7 Windows 7
tablet powered by I5 processor. That thing I was using Klite mplayer and
streaming 1080p to it without any hiccups. Of course it only has about 5 hours
of battery life, and costs $1100.00
I used to do some live streaming golf video lessons through a HD video camera. I found that the most important thing to get a flawless video stream was CPU power. Regardless of the speed of my connection and at that time it was sprint 3g or comcast cable connection I had to have my core 2 duo on high performance to get a good stream.
So in short, I found that the #1 requirement for good streaming was CPU power followed by connection speed.
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720p is working fine. 1080p I am still having problems with it.
(performs the same as my original TF).
Not sure what is going on here. Using Estrongs File browswer to browse
to Windows 7 PC. Hooked of course 100mbit lan cable to my Netgear
Wireless N 300mb. Pulling 1080p .mkvs 6 to 8GB rips.. I get stuttering
in Diceplayer, Mxplayer. Right from the start.
Tablet on Normal performance setting. Like 15 feet from my router.
I tried different compression settings in the players.
Those that are having flawless 1080p video what player are you using?
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Looks more like an issue with encoding of the file that a network/hardware limitation. It probably was encoded using some wonky parameters (especially if you pulled it from the internet,who knows how they encoded it) that do not comply to a standard that the prime is looking for, so it's forced to be software decoded which the Prime doesn't have enough muscle for, at least not at 1080p.
Try re-encode from the DVD/BR using handbreak using one of the presets and see if it works.
The problem is that the Prime has plenty of CPU to play the 1080p files natively.
So, when it chokes playing the 1080p files over wifi from the network (while my laptops play them flawlessly), that tells me that there is something wrong with the Prime's wifi.
I believe the problem lies in the fact that there is some sort of cap in Android which keeps max throughput capped at 65mbps. I've never seen it higher than that. My laptops on that same connection get up to 270mbps.
There is no margin for error in the Prime's wifi signal. Thus, 1080p videos over the network (not transcoded) struggle. Wish there was a way to unlock the full wifi capability of that chip.
Any ideas?
@OP
I'm guessing you're not a numbers guy, else you would've read my post which says there's no way on God's green earth you're gonna get 270 or even 65Mbs on the Prime. That's OK. I got lots of practice in making stuff simple for non-techie peeps (my parents).
The table below is from the Prime's FCC RF test report (here)
See the Antenna Type where it says "PIFA Antenna with gain 0.4 dBi"? That's your (and everybody else's) problem. The typical rubberduckie antenna has a gain of 2 dBi. Your laptop's built-in diversity antenna is probably 3-5 dBi. Per the bigger-is-better maxim, any mobile device's reception ain't gonna be all that great. BTW, dBi is a log measure, but you get the idea. Small antenna = sucky reception.
Mobile devices suck for wifi reception because of their small antennae. That's just the way it is. It won't improve until tabs can accept external (USB) wifi receivers with big honking antenna, like this one (that's a 12 dBi ant BTW):
TL;DR: Forget 1080p over wifi. Get a streamer.
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The problem is that the Prime has plenty of CPU to play the 1080p files natively.
So, when it chokes playing the 1080p files over wifi from the network (while my laptops play them flawlessly), that tells me that there is something wrong with the Prime's wifi.
I believe the problem lies in the fact that there is some sort of cap in Android which keeps max throughput capped at 65mbps. I've never seen it higher than that. My laptops on that same connection get up to 270mbps.
There is no margin for error in the Prime's wifi signal. Thus, 1080p videos over the network (not transcoded) struggle. Wish there was a way to unlock the full wifi capability of that chip.
Any ideas?
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It's if it's not encoded to standard then it's forced into software decoding which the Prime does NOT have the muscle to do. Especially if it's a high bitrate encode. Has nothing to do your Wifi.
A full bitrate blurry is on average is 25Mbps... So if your prime is capable of pushing 65 Mbps network is not an issue.
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You could also try copy the file you're tying to stream to Prime and see if it will play smooth. If it does then you know for sure it's a network limitation.
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TUTORIAL: USE LG L9 PHONE AS DLNA MEDIA STORAGE DEVICE TV TO PC.
THIS EXPLAINS, HOW DID I PLAYED THE VIDEOS SAVED ON L9, ON MY PC AND VICE VERSA, BUT NO WIRES ATTACHED AND FULL HD VIDEOS PLAYED.
DLNA of L9 with PC and L9 as Remote Control. It really WORKS well! "
Connect PC with your WireLess Router either with wire or wireless.
Start WiFi on your L9 and let it connect to network as usual.
Start "Windows Media Player" (WMP).
Select "Stream" Menu
Select "Allow Remote Control of my player"
A dialogue box will appear asking "Allow Remote Control" Select "Allow Remote Control....."
Now you may see Phone Name "P765" in WMP Left side device list and now WMP can show any Photo, Video, etc saved in Phone. Full HD Videos and Photos.
Now lets use Phone as.....REMOTE CONTROL (Play from Phone to PC)
Now Run SmartShare App on Phone
Click "FROM" and select "My Phone"
Click "To" and select "My PC: MyHome PC" (whatever name of your pc)
Now you can see media folders (Video, Photo, etc)
Just Start playing anything (example, video) on Phone from these folders seen in smartshare and WOW...VIDEO WILL BE SEEN PLAYING IN WMP ON COMPUTER.
You can control (play, pause, next, prev) media from Phone.
Enjoy!!!
KNOWN ISSUE: One sided audio in Video and Audio Playback. Problem solved in V10E and later
PS: One more good one suggested by donk165 in this post but needs small windows installation.
TUTORIAL: USE LG L9 PHONE AS DLNA MEDIA STORAGE DEVICE TV AND PLAYER.
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OMG it works flawlessly, only about 5 steps, took 1 minute to set up, 1080p video streaming as smoothly as possible, just have to chech how much battery it uses ...
mitraark said:
OMG it works flawlessly, only about 5 steps, took 1 minute to set up, 1080p video streaming as smoothly as possible, just have to chech how much battery it uses ...
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DLNA is most ignored BEST WIRELESS MEDIA LINK between mobile devices and TV/DVDPlayers. I tested perfectly with PC and my SAMSUNG BD-D5300 Blueray player. Its really very easy and simple thing you can do with very few mouse clicks. Glad you tried.:good:
thanx bro for useful post. ..
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thanx bro for useful post. ..
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NFC in P760 but not in P765?
A question comes in my mind, why did they give NFC on P760 and not on P765??? Well all hardware is same, except camera and NFC. Even the kdz can be flashed on each other.
Have someone flashed any kdz for P760 on P765 and test NFC? Nothing wrong in trying. What if it works on P765 too. lolz
Hi very cool that dnla thingy but can i stream games alsp?.
Because videos or music etc.... i dont care. Its more interesting if we can miror the screen on pc or what ever.!
reggiexp said:
Hi very cool that dnla thingy but can i stream games alsp?.
Because videos or music etc.... i dont care. Its more interesting if we can miror the screen on pc or what ever.!
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There is one lenovo android phone which can stream video of Games to DLNA device. Dont have details at the moment, you can search in google and especially in YouTube.
I dont have much information about L9 but technically there should be a Driver Application which should stream the display of Games on TV via DLNA. It is also possible that some applications DLNA SERVER (http://www.appszoom.com/android_applications/dlna) may help you in this case. Google it.
Eh, few questions:
1. For remote control, I use VLC Remote (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.peterbaldwin.client.android.vlcremote), is there any differences other than playing files ON your phone? Which leads to the 2nd question anyways.
1. Why do you store video files on your mobile ? All my video files are either rips (stored on PC, few GBs each) or my captures which are uploaded to G+ immediately, and I can access from any where. And to access these file, I use Emit, uPnP or SplashTop.
I never used DLNA before, so pardon me for my lack of knowledge.
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Eh, few questions:
1. For remote control, I use VLC Remote (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.peterbaldwin.client.android.vlcremote), is there any differences other than playing files ON your phone? Which leads to the 2nd question anyways.
1. Why do you store video files on your mobile ? All my video files are either rips (stored on PC, few GBs each) or my captures which are uploaded to G+ immediately, and I can access from any where. And to access these file, I use Emit, uPnP or SplashTop.
I never used DLNA before, so pardon me for my lack of knowledge.
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DLNA is only a wireless streaming of media files. Rest how you use it is your wish. It is not always necessary that I will stream it to my PC/TV at home. Suppose I am visiting my friend, relative, office, anywhere, etc. and I wish to share my KARAOKE video, where I am really singing well, I can easily stream it to the TV on large screen and hey!! Everyone (hundreds of them) can watch it and appreciate it. Most of us show Home/Picnic Photos, Videos, etc to friends on mobile itself wherever they go. What if DLNA allows you to share it on BIG screen. And yes, DLNA does not need to copy your files on recipient device, its just a SlideShow.
Well if you dont share your music, photos and videos, with your friends/relatives/office pals, THEN DLNA IS USELESS FOR YOU. YOU MAY SAFELY FORGET IT. :laugh: Lol
EDIT: In my city I noticed all BlueRay Players from branded companies, are DLNA-certified.
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Well if you dont share your music, photos and videos, with your friends/relatives/office pals, THEN DLNA IS USELESS FOR YOU. YOU MAY SAFELY FORGET IT. :laugh: Lol
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This is where the part "my captures which are uploaded to G+ immediately, and I can access from any where" come in handy . I assume you know about Google Plus automatic upload feature, it is good for back up and SHARING as well :highfive:. Of course, not every smart TV can show music, photos or videos from google plus, or not everyone (your friends/relatives/office pals) might know about G+ I guess.
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chicguy said:
This is where the part "my captures which are uploaded to G+ immediately, and I can access from any where" come in handy . I assume you know about Google Plus automatic upload feature, it is good for back up and SHARING as well :highfive:. Of course, not every smart TV can show music, photos or videos from google plus, or not everyone (your friends/relatives/office pals) might know about G+ I guess.
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Yes I know automatic upload service of G+
Well people who know DLNA in phone know DLNA in TV or BD/DVD players too.
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I went to my friends house and i showed him a video captured from my phone on his WMP, with almost no setup ( just the one step, Allow other devices... )
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I went to my friends house and i showed him a video captured from my phone on his WMP, with almost no setup ( just the one step, Allow other devices... )
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Great. He might have surprised how it happens so quickly without wires.
Re: How to use DLNA and use L9 as Media Server and Remote Control of your PC?
Another way to control your PC with your L9 is to use Unified Remote. It doesn't have a live preview of the screen, but you can use the touch screen as a touch pad, and bring up the on screen keyboard of the phone to type on the PC. There are also remotes for media keys, WMP, VLC, YouTube and a few more. You can get it on the play store.
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donk165 said:
Another way to control your PC with your L9 is to use Unified Remote. It doesn't have a live preview of the screen, but you can use the touch screen as a touch pad, and bring up the on screen keyboard of the phone to type on the PC. There are also remotes for media keys, WMP, VLC, YouTube and a few more. You can get it on the play store.
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+1 Hey, thanks for http://www.unifiedremote.com/
VLC and WMP remote apps were already there since quiet a time. All useful. Thanks.:good:
With ArkMc app I stream video from my phone to TV also, you could try
Bill Fresher said:
With ArkMc app I stream video from my phone to TV also, you could try
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seems good by description, but its paid app.
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Can you put up a Google play link so we make sure we download the right one please? Thank you
thats a $120 piece of equipment...sweet!
Well i searched it and i think i found the right one there were only 2 lol. I'll start testing this weekend and report by the date. Id love to have on of those tonidoplugs. I didnt know what it was until google searching and it seems awesome.
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Well i searched it and i think i found the right one there were only 2 lol. I'll start testing this weekend and report by the date. Id love to have on of those tonidoplugs. I didnt know what it was until google searching and it seems awesome.
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here is the Google Play Link : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tonido.android&hl=en
Ok thanks i downloaded the right one already. Also ill be testing with stock rom and kernel 4.2.2 with root but no actual changes to system so it will be stock experience.
So far from home, on my Wi-Fi, its great! I used to use other apps like Splashtop 2 and the like, but I prefer to have it streamed to my tablet, rather than just mirroring my PC. I'm going into work overnight, so at that point I'll get to try it out with 3G/4G.
How are you going to try 3g on the nexus 10? Its only WiFi. Did you mean on your phone? And I can confirm that its been working great so far but I haven't tested very much yet.
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abdel12345 said:
How are you going to try 3g on the nexus 10? Its only WiFi. Did you mean on your phone? And I can confirm that its been working great so far but I haven't tested very much yet.
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He can plug a 3g dongle and use it on the tablet... :silly:
Yes, I meant tethering my tablet to my Nexus 4.
So over mobile data, it runs great, and as I mentioned before, it also runs well over Wi-Fi. When playing a song, I like how it runs in the background too!
The UI looks neat, and there's also a little sync functionality like DropBox.
Only irk for me is that occasionally when I seek, the video would freeze on one frame, but picking an earlier or later spot would set it right.
Also, with apps like Splashtop, I would get some serious performance decrease on my PC, but with Tonido, I can play BF3 on my PC and watch Married With Children on my tablet!
Overall I'm really loving this app!
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Yes, I meant tethering my tablet to my Nexus 4.
So over mobile data, it runs great, and as I mentioned before, it also runs well over Wi-Fi. When playing a song, I like how it runs in the background too!
The UI looks neat, and there's also a little sync functionality like DropBox.
Only irk for me is that occasionally when I seek, the video would freeze on one frame, but picking an earlier or later spot would set it right.
Also, with apps like Splashtop, I would get some serious performance decrease on my PC, but with Tonido, I can play BF3 on my PC and watch Married With Children on my tablet!
Overall I'm really loving this app!
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